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I'm not giving any advice. I am actually looking for some. Does anyone here write? I'm working on a book. A fantasy novel of sorts. Even drew a world map with my atrophied art talents. No, I don't have any delusions of grandeur, I just want to see if I can actually do it. So anyone have any tips or suggestions? I know I'm usually a sarcastic bastard but I am actually serious about this. Preliminary world map as proof.

 

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7 hours ago, misterBee said:

What is the context here?

 

It's cool you drew a map but it might be easier to build the story first and worry about how the map looks later.

I've written seven chapters thus far. I drew up the map during chapter 5. I had all the locations in my head but having a visual reference helps me keep things in order. Similarly, as I create recurring characters in the story, I create a very short profile that lists vital information. Age, Hair/Eye/Skin color, etc. So as I write, I can scroll down to the bottom of my document to reference this info. I've done this with country names, cities, languages, and I even have rough time line. My memory has always been solid on these things but this something more complex than anything I've done before.

 

I have written things before but never a book. You guys have seen some of the concepts I created for SFV. That is more in line with things I've usually done. Outside of a Street Fighter fanfic I wrote Vortex Gaming Online in my teenage years, the only other thing I did was the basis for my book. I used to play Everquest 2 like a 15 plus years ago. You could right small story profile for your character, something other players could read if they inspected you. So I wrote a detailed background for every character I created. I played on the roleplaying  server. So I acted out each character, which became quite difficult as I created more. I'm sort of proud of the fact that people thought two different people played my two main characters. Only when voice chat started to become a thing did people, outside of my closest friends in the game, realize that weren't the case.

 

As I said, earlier this little rant. Those characters are the basis of my book. I've always hated how I'd crafted this interconnected set of characters that were just gone when I stopped playing. Part of the reason I played so long is because the attachment to my characters. In the years since I've always wanted to create my own world that I could place those characters in. So thing that not fade away because I wasn't playing an MMO. So I've finally decide to take what's stuck in this aging cranium of mine into a book. I want to challenge myself to see if I can do it. I don't ever plan on releasing it. If/when I finish it. I will let people trust read and critique it. If I am satisfied with my results, I may continue the story. I've thought up way too much stuff to put into one book. As I've built out the world, I have added new characters. A necessity to move the story forward. The added detail makes the story I thought may not fill a book much bigger.

 

Side note: Sorry for the massive rant. This reminds me of how I posted as teenager. Serious long winded posts. I think my posting quality is taken a severe hit as I've grown older 🤔 Oh, almost forgot. :tldr:

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In that case I wouldn't worry about getting feedback at this stage.  A map is just a map.  If it's for your own internal use then it can look like whatever you want.  The important thing here is going to be the story.

 

Have a strong outline for your story BEFORE you begin writing it, and don't get feedback until you've worked it out.  Showing pieces bit by bit and getting/trying to follow feedback is just going to cause your work to meander and go all over the place.  Get out a solid first draft without worrying about what people think and THEN show it around.

 

Alternatively, you can do something serialized instead.  Do it chapter by chapter, but still follow the same idea -- get a solid draft of each chapter done FIRST, then show it to other people.   Doing a serialized story and publishing online a chapter at a time will be much easier than trying to spit out a full-length novel at once.

 

Worst thing you can do is try to get all kinds of input when you're not totally sure how you want things to go yet.

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On 7/3/2019 at 5:38 PM, misterBee said:

No problem!  Please keep us posted on how things go.  I would love to see what you come up with!

I'm about half way through Chapter 12. So I'm still working on my book.  This is an outdated excerpt of Chapter 3 from April. I've made slight changes to the story since this was written.

 

Spoiler

Chapter 3

 

     As the Sun begins to pick over the mountainous horizon, a large elevated plateau comes into view. The plateau juts out from the nearby mountain. A three walled city sits at the top of the plateau and large populous town surrounds its base. Five riders on catback can be seen approaching the city from a distance. The riders stop at the outskirts of town. “Well this where we parts ways, at least for now. Ya finally broke your old man's record Nikolai. Arseni smiles as he taps the large platinum and gold coin filled sack fastened to his side. “I was annoyed when he chose his young pup to lead the band. As usual yer old man was right.” A confused Valya looks on, “I’d say you’re drunk. Never seen your dusty ole’ ass happier…but we haven’t cracked open the last cask of ale.” Nikolai, D’ianov, and Riannara all chuckle. Valya looks at the trio and laughs. “This has been the strangest job yet boss, we get double pay, you get a daughter…hell maybe I’ve been drinking ahahaha”. D’ianov looks at Valya and Arseni. “Stay out of trouble you two. I can’t have my father wasting all of his kingly favors getting you out of trouble. I may screw up one day you know.” D’ianov cracks a smile as his father lets out a belly laugh and his mother folds her arms in disapproval. “You are not setting the best example for your sister D’ianov.” Riannara exclaims. “I’ll call on you two the next time we get a job. Don’t go blowing all your coin in one day.” Nikolai addresses Arseni and Valya. The two of them nod while sporting devious grins as they ride off into town. Inyxio remains quiet. She tightly clasps her arms around Nikolai’s waist while leaning her head against his back. “Scared you’ll fall off child? We’ll both fall if you don’t loosen your grip. I need to breath ya know.” Nikolai smiles warmly at a clearly nervous Inyxio. “Let’s get you home.” The remaining riders head for the eastern outskirts of town.
     The trio of mounts and their four riders arrive at a large fort of a residence. A stone residence with two floors surrounded by four stone walls. Against the eastern wall sits a wooden stable. Adjacent to the stable, where the northern and eastern walls meets sits a small stone building. The roof of the building has a chimney at its center. There are no visible locks near the large wood door at the center of the southern wall. Riannara dismounts and approaches the wooden door. She mutters an incantation and the doors swing open. “Who needs locks when you have a Vekinsali wife.” Nikolai chuckles. An annoyed Riannara sighs. “D’ianov take the mounts to the stable. Nikolai, since you have the energy to laugh you can start dinner. Inyxio come with me.” D’ianov grabs the reigns of the three mounts and lead them to the stables. As he passes Inyxio he whispers something in her ear and she begins to giggle. Riannara narrows her eyes and Inyxio ceases giggling. “This is not a time to joke son.” Nikolai, carrying firewood for the stove, chimes in. “You wanted them to act like brother and sister.” He smirks as he heads inside to the kitchen. Riannara glares at him briefly while muttering under her breath, “It will be good to have another woman around here.” Inyxio meekly speaks. “Lady Rian…mother… is everything… alright” Riannara smiles warmly at Inyxio. “Everything is fine child. Now let us get you inside. Your mother gave me a few of your things. We will place them in the guest room.” Riannara puts her hand on her chin and ponders. “What…what is it” Inyxio looks at Riannara curiously. “It has just dawned on me that we will need to build a new guest room. Let me rephrase that. Nikolai and D’ianov will start building a guest house tomorrow.” Riannara laughs to herself.

 

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On 9/21/2019 at 2:39 PM, Darc_Requiem said:

I'm about half way through Chapter 12. So I'm still working on my book.  This is an outdated excerpt of Chapter 3 from April. I've made slight changes to the story since this was written.

Sorry I have been a bit busy lately.

 

I will provide some feedback soon!

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1 hour ago, misterBee said:

Sorry I have been a bit busy lately.

 

I will provide some feedback soon!

Take your time man. I am considering the entire a book a rough draft anyway. After I finish it, which at the rate I'm going some time next year, I am going to look  at how other books organize and handle things. I figure it will be much easier to make changes after I've committed a complete story to "paper". Truthfully, I'm not sure if I'll even let anyone read the whole thing when it's finished. I really want to see if I can actually do this.

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Currently working on Chapter 17 . My tentative plan is to wrap the story up by Chapter 20 but it isn't a hard cap. It depends on upon how the story progresses. It's funny how fluid my idea are. The details of my story have changed a lot from my original intentions despite the stories direction remaining the same.

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On 12/7/2019 at 9:25 PM, Darc_Requiem said:

Currently working on Chapter 17 . My tentative plan is to wrap the story up by Chapter 20 but it isn't a hard cap. It depends on upon how the story progresses. It's funny how fluid my idea are. The details of my story have changed a lot from my original intentions despite the stories direction remaining the same.

Just out of curiousity -- are you working with an outline? 

 

Constantly changing the story so late into the game seems like it'd be a bit of a headache.

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2 hours ago, misterBee said:

Just out of curiousity -- are you working with an outline? 

 

Constantly changing the story so late into the game seems like it'd be a bit of a headache.

I've had an outline for sometime. The major events are hard points. How I get to those hard points are not.

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