Darc_Requiem Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 T'Challa should not be sidelined. Part of these reason fiction is such a strong medium is because the characters can live on beyond those who portray or create them. Hawkingbird and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Maxx said: I rather not assume with a dead man's wishes. But their is a way to have a happy medium. In the case shuri truly fucks herself out of a job which I don't see. So in the flash TV show they wrote Barry Allen as basically wally west and gave him all of wallys villains and story lines. You can do this with killmonger. It would give you some good creative leeway to watch him grow into the role. He's very much bps equal in ever way and comic wise I believe he's always been a better fighter. T'challa did develop any of the storylines from the comics yet so you give them to mjb without trampling on Chadwicks image or Legacy The Flash sucks tho. The show i mean. Its not good. Not a very good example man. Quote Link to comment
Maxx Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, RSG3 said: The Flash sucks tho. The show i mean. Its not good. Not a very good example man. Yet it does great in the ratings. So they are doing something right. Alot of its issues are the characters interaction and how they write Barry. Not the plots or archs themselves. They just write Barry weird Edited December 4, 2020 by Maxx Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Maxx said: Yet it does great in the ratings. So they are doing something right. Alot of its issues are the characters interaction and how they write Barry. Not the plots or archs themselves. They just write Barry weird Even some of the plots are wack. I remember when Barry got fucked up by bees. Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Maxx said: Yet it does great in the ratings. So they are doing something right High ratings doesn't mean the show is any good. Pop music is some of the most popular music in the world. Doesnt mean it isnt trashy, vapid, and void of quality. Edited December 4, 2020 by RSG3 DarkSakul 1 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) The Flash has good ratings....for CW. Shows can get by with far lower ratings on CW. Supergirl on CBS had averaged 7.68 million viewers per episode. Supergirl's best season for ratings on CW averaged 2.3 million viewers an episode. It's last season only did 837k an episode. Keep in mind that CBS was going to cancel Supergirl for low ratings. For point of reference, Flash's best season (1) for ratings averaged 3.84 million an episode. Last season averaged 1.26 million. Edited December 4, 2020 by Darc_Requiem Quote Link to comment
Maxx Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Darc_Requiem said: The Flash has good ratings....for CW. Shows can get by with far lower ratings on CW. Supergirl on CBS had averaged 7.68 million viewers per episode. Supergirl's best season for ratings on CW averaged 2.3 million viewers an episode. It's last season only did 837k an episode. Keep in mind that CBS was going to cancel Supergirl for low ratings. For point of reference, Flash's best season (1) for ratings averaged 3.84 million an episode. Last season averaged 1.26 million. CBS is the old people and stupid sitcoms. It was never gonna work there. It was so diff from its normal audience Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 54 minutes ago, Maxx said: CBS is the old people and stupid sitcoms. It was never gonna work there. It was so diff from its normal audience Yet the average episode at CBS averaged more viewers per episode than the combined number of the entire Arrowverse lineup. The lowest viewed Supergirl episode on CBS had 6 million viewers. It Nate Robinson's the Arrowverse on it's own. RSG3 1 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Given everything I honestly can't see how they don't re cast the role or scrap the plans of future Black Panther films. Quote Link to comment
DarkSakul Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Wellman said: Given everything I honestly can't see how they don't re cast the role or scrap the plans of future Black Panther films. There going to be some recasting or some shenanigans to reassign who the Black Panther is supposed to be. There room in the Black Panther mythos for someone else to take the mantel, and it does not has to be a family member of T'Challa. Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Yeah I actually just realized the Casper Cole story would be perfect to recast someone as the Panther, but given the wide spread issues with police it is something else to try adapting that story. Quote Link to comment
Maxx Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said: Yet the average episode at CBS averaged more viewers per episode than the combined number of the entire Arrowverse lineup. The lowest viewed Supergirl episode on CBS had 6 million viewers. It Nate Robinson's the Arrowverse on it's own. Nah supergirl had nothing to do with what ended up going down with the arrow verse. By the time they did the switch the arrow verse was already a bunch of years in. Arrowverse was winding down. Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Maxx said: Nah supergirl had nothing to do with what ended up going down with the arrow verse. By the time they did the switch the arrow verse was already a bunch of years in. Arrowverse was winding down. I never said it did. I said that The Flash's ratings were only good by CW standards and used Supergirl's, low by CBS standards, ratings to show this. RSG3 1 Quote Link to comment
Maxx Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: I never said it did. I said that The Flash's ratings were only good by CW standards and used Supergirl's, low by CBS standards, ratings to show this. You said it Nate Robinsoned the arrowverse. I read it as it got them shut down. Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Maxx said: You said it Nate Robinsoned the arrowverse. I read it as it got them shut down. Okay I see the confusion. My point was to show how low CW ratings are by comparing the lowest CBS Supergirl episode, 6 million views, to the enter Arrowverse lineup which couldn't top that number. i.e. CW ratings aren't that high. Edit: 4.4 million is he combined average viewership of Flash, Legends, Supergirl, Batwoman, and Black Lighting. Hence the "Nate Robinson'd the entire lineup comment" Edited December 5, 2020 by Darc_Requiem RSG3 1 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/spider-man-3-alfred-molina-returning-as-doctor-octopus Dr Octopus (Alfred Molina) returns to the Spider-man film series! Hawkingbird and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 This Spidey film feels less a continuation of MCU Parker's story and more a live action Spiderverse. I am down and I hope they find a way to throw in a reference to the Japanese Toku Spider-Man as well. DangerousJ 1 Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) I really don’t like all these returning stars. Everyone is like “omg this is awesome!” because nostalgia. But it just comes off as overbooked non-sense. Also the vile stench of Sony is all over this. They’ve been given a few inches thanks to spider-verse and getting cozy with Marvel but god damn it feels like they’re going to take few miles by doing this doesn’t sit right with me. Edited December 9, 2020 by iStu X Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Rumor has it that Charlie Cox will reprise his Dardevil role in Spiderman 3. Source seems questionable but I hope it's true. RSG3 and Wellman 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 When you wish you got Chris Hansen RSG3, Darc_Requiem and Wellman 3 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 13 hours ago, iStu X said: I really don’t like all these returning stars. Everyone is like “omg this is awesome!” because nostalgia. But it just comes off as overbooked non-sense. Also the vile stench of Sony is all over this. They’ve been given a few inches thanks to spider-verse and getting cozy with Marvel but god damn it feels like they’re going to take few miles by doing this doesn’t sit right with me. No I get it, especially with Sony but Disney seems to have strong hand with the films and if this will be the last solo outing of Spidey I can understand them trying to go big. Plus for Sony this brings all the good stuff into their own Sony Spider Verse which due to the popularity of the character they will always have control of in terms of films. I mean you would have to pray for the collapse of both the PlayStation brand, Sony Music and Films to put them in the dire straits of Fox where they would sell back the franchise. I will take this moment to condemn the terrible management of Marvel comics even in bankruptcy you shouldn't have signed away your biggest brand for such a indefinite contract. DangerousJ and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Wandavision Trailer 2.... RSG3 1 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Falcon and Winter Soldier will air March 19,2021 on Disney Plus Loki May 2021 Edited December 11, 2020 by DangerousJ Wellman and iStu X 2 Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, DangerousJ said: March 19,20201 on Disney Plus I know the rona fucked with taping but damn, that long of a delay? DangerousJ 1 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 What IF Trailer AriesWarlock, Wellman and GreyFoxx 3 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Ms. Marvel sizzle reel.... Wellman and GreyFoxx 2 Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Marvel bringing the heat Edited December 11, 2020 by Hawkingbird DangerousJ 1 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Damn, Disney really throwing everything out there today. DangerousJ 1 Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Noooooo they’re introducing Kang! Fuuuuuuuuuck. Kang is such a silly and stupid clusterfuck of a character. Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Once Endgame introduced time travel you knew he was coming. Kang is way above Ant-Man's weight class. He'll need the whole fam for this. Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I’m very very surprised they’re doing Secret Invasion as a miniseries and not a phase of movies build up. Secret Invasion was such a huge event Edited December 11, 2020 by iStu X Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 FF movie! Armor Wars is cool. I always felt Cheadle was underrused in MCU. GreyFoxx and Wellman 2 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: Once Endgame introduced time travel you knew he was coming. Kang is way above Ant-Man's weight class. He'll need the whole fam for this. I hope they don't fuck it up and make Kang a one off villain. When it comes to Marvel villains with personality and Avengers level power, after Dr. Doom and Thanos, Marvel kind of don't have too many with major stories to draw from. Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Wellman said: I hope they don't fuck it up and make Kang a one off villain. When it comes to Marvel villains with personality and Avengers level power, after Dr. Doom and Thanos, Marvel kind of don't have too many with major stories to draw from. I’ll still be forever salty about how they treated Ultron. Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wellman said: I hope they don't fuck it up and make Kang a one off villain. When it comes to Marvel villains with personality and Avengers level power, after Dr. Doom and Thanos, Marvel kind of don't have too many with major stories to draw from. They have like 4 other versions of Kang to draw from if they fuck this one up. Wellman and iStu X 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 minute ago, iStu X said: I’ll still be forever salty about how they treated Ultron. Yeah they got the perfect voice too. I honestly sort of hope they bring him and James Spader back somehow. iStu X and DangerousJ 2 Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: They have like 4 other versions of Kang to draw from if they fuck this one up. Isn’t one of them a time displaced young tony stark? Let’s go with that one for the ultimate head scratching fuckery Edited December 11, 2020 by iStu X Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, iStu X said: Isn’t one of them a time displaced young tony stark? Let’s go with that one for the ultimate head scratching fuckery If your talking about Iron Lad that's just a teenage Kang. Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hawkingbird said: If your talking about Iron Lad that's just a teenage Kang. and they expect casuals to be able to understand Kang. Dudes oriGin is like the 4 worst choose our own adventure books ever written but they’re all ongoing books from different writers Edited December 11, 2020 by iStu X Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: If your talking about Iron Lad that's just a teenage Kang. Yeah, but the young Time displaced Teen Tony was from an Avengers/Kang story. It was terrible and we should never speak of it being adapted again. iStu X 1 Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) No recast of T’Challa. 2nd movie instead will explore the history of wakanda and its iconic characters from the first movie. Edited December 11, 2020 by iStu X Wellman 1 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 That is far more decent then I would have given them credit of being. I hope they can pull it off as that is no easy feat. DangerousJ 1 Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 It was bound to happen sooner or later Wellman, Hawkingbird and DangerousJ 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Yep, I mean the plan was always from the start, begin at a lower price and slowly raise the price over time. That is how Netflix did/does it, and they had the revenue to cover it before 2020. Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Go thing I still got another year on the old plan. Wellman and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
OPTIMUS124 Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Wellman and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Spiderman is still a Sony film though..... RSG3 and iStu X 2 Quote Link to comment
Wellman Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 12 hours ago, OPTIMUS124 said: Marvel and Sony, if Into the Spider Verse is an indication on future management and not just an anomaly due to being animated, has experience and likely can make this work. So there is hope. But looking at it logically, we should definitely temper expectations down. Those are a lot of threads for a 2-2.5 hour movie to juggle especially given the current time frame and climate. Quote Link to comment
Maxx Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 14 hours ago, OPTIMUS124 said: Marvel tries to manage Sony so it fits in the larger mcu but they are not in control. Sony can do whatever the fuck they want in the end. But sure blame marvel lol Quote Link to comment
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