The Killer Instinct Thread

[GetTheTables 1100]

Technically the KI2013/KI3 thread but if someone wants to come in here and wax nostalgic about KI Gold, I'm not gonna stop 'em. Odds are I'll probably join in.

 

Figured I could make a thread even if it seems like it is myself and @FlyingVeplaying for now. Theoretically we can stop shitting up the SFV thread with posts about KI, though we all know that isn't going to happen. 

 

Anyone with a passing interest or who wants to try something new: join in!

 

KI2013 has:

 

• A huge roster with lots of playstyle variance
• A siiiiiiick soundtrack - all the stage music is bangin
• A F2P client on Windows/Xbox, and a less-than-full-price Steam version that comes with everything, so its a cheap (to no) buy in
• Low system requirements - if your rig can run SFV it can definitely handle this game
• Cross play between all versions in lobbies so we can all punch each other
• Excellent rollback netcode so we can all punch each other with confidence that the punches will come out
• A phenomenal resource in http://ki.infil.net/ - gaze upon it and realize how good a FG resource site can be
• Lightning fast rematches - no waiting for the next battleattleattttle.....here

 

I've been away from the game long enough that I'm effectively fresh meat, and while Ve seems like a shark in this game he's still winding up. So we can enjoy all kind of learning a game together and mashing buttons. Or one of you who is a secret grandmaster at this game can tear through us like a chainsaw through a kindergarten. The matches are fast enough that it doesn't matter!

 

The important thing is that we all play together. And that at least one of us plays Rash so they can loop his taunts once a session.

 

[FlyingVe 330]

Imagine Street fighter but good.

 

Also, neither @GetTheTablesnor I have any amazing degree of muscle memory/inate skill, so don't worry about grabbing games.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

 

[GetTheTables 1100]

It is a legit miracle that this game is any good at all, let alone as good as it is. Watching it grow into that live was wild.

 

Also fuck now I want a Weaponlord reboot. 

[Laughingman 9]

That Blasted Salami has started a serise looking at each character.  They're writtern by Infil and Lemon, short and very useful.  

 

 

I played KI for a bit when it was announced for EVO online and there were more people playing at a lower level.  Once you get your head around the combo system and the possibilities that come from that, both for offence and defence it's a really fun game.  I'd be happy have some games but I'm guessing you guys are in America?  I'm in the UK, so times and connections will probably be a bit iffy.

 

[FlyingVe 330]

This game should have been crap, I mean KI1 & 2, despite being fun are not very good games. However, not only is is good, but it’s one of the best fighting games of the last 10 years.

 

On that not anyone up for games tonight? @GetTheTables @Vhozite or whoever else has the game that I didn’t tag?

[GetTheTables 1100]

@FlyingVeProbably not tonight unfortunately. Due to how this week is shaking out not likely to have time again until Sunday or so. Maybe late Sat.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

I'll join in but not tonight. I need to reinstall the game

[FlyingVe 330]

Okay, I will keep you on the list to tag.

 

If anyone else wants in, drop a message here so people know to tag you.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

I reinstalled last night. My Thunder is ready to job!

[FlyingVe 330]

Cool. I will try to tag everyone for games today or tomorrow evening.

[GetTheTables 1100]

@FlyingVeand @HawkingbirdEither of you guys around for games tonight, say 6:30-7pm EST? I'll have a good hour or so, maybe more if my FF14 group doesn't want to meet up.

 

Trying to get momentum in this game after SFV broke me. Got to hit up practice mode just a bit. My singular goal is to do one complete combo that I actually meant to.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

2 minutes ago, GetTheTables said:

@FlyingVeand @HawkingbirdEither of you guys around for games tonight, say 6:30-7pm EST? I'll have a good hour or so, maybe more if my FF14 group doesn't want to meet up.

 

Trying to get momentum in this game after SFV broke me. Got to hit up practice mode just a bit. My singular goal is to do one complete combo that I actually meant to.

I can be free around that time. 

[FlyingVe 330]

I may not be free until later.

 

I think @Vhozitehas the game too so he may want in

[GetTheTables 1100]

Ewww. Vhozite.

 

I'll put the shout out when I'm ready to flail.

[GetTheTables 1100]

@Hawkingbird @FlyingVe @Vhozite Starting my KI Powah Houra. If anyone wants to get games in and help me stay awake, lemme know.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

5 minutes ago, GetTheTables said:

@Hawkingbird @FlyingVe @Vhozite Starting my KI Powah Houra. If anyone wants to get games in and help me stay awake, lemme know.

I'll get on about 20 minutes. I'm gonna eat. 

[GetTheTables 1100]

29 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

I'll get on about 20 minutes. I'm gonna eat. 

Quick follow up: my efforts to sustain energy have failed. Gonna rain check KI for another day.

 

We'll all definitely cook off games soon though. Hopefully you and Ve can throw down later.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

3 minutes ago, GetTheTables said:

Quick follow up: my efforts to sustain energy have failed. Gonna rain check KI for another day.

 

We'll all definitely cook off games soon though. Hopefully you and Ve can throw down later.

Damn man, I just got done from cleaning up after my meal. Next time then.

[GetTheTables 1100]

Just now, Hawkingbird said:

Damn man, I just got done from cleaning up after my meal. Next time then.

I still have stuff hooked up. Gimme 2 mins.

[GetTheTables 1100]

Alright @Hawkingbird lets get things rolling. What handle should I send the invite to?

[Hawkingbird 2148]

@GetTheTablesHawkingbird on steam.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

I just learned that cross play lobbies can't be private if I want to look for it. That sucks

[GetTheTables 1100]

2 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

@GetTheTablesHawkingbird on steam.

So it looks like I can't invite from the Win10 client to the steam one? Based on what I'm reading you have to search for my lobby and join it. 

 

Have one open now. 2 person lobby, "Learning New Character", mr moondog is the player name. Maybe make searching for it easier?

 

This is goofier than I expected.

[GetTheTables 1100]

4 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

I just learned that cross play lobbies can't be private if I want to look for it. That sucks

Yep I just had some random duder join and I couldn't kick him fast enough. Had to remake it.

 

This is just a touch jank but cross network is weird that way I guess.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

I can't believe how cross play works on SFV makes more sense.

[GetTheTables 1100]

Yeah the way it works here definitely feels more bolted on mechanically. Though considering they probably had to do a lot of hacking to make it work that way after the fact.

 

Seems to be running well though so there is that. 

[GetTheTables 1100]

@HawkingbirdCouple more for me.

[GetTheTables 1100]

@HawkingbirdGGs man. Sorry to cut it off but I owe Tubb some SoR4. Was a lot of fun, will have to do it again sometime soon! Thunder is a beast.

[Hawkingbird 2148]

GGs man. KI footsies is something I need to get use to. 

[GetTheTables 1100]

Yeah its definitely different for me. I'm mostly used to SFV which is played at Covid distance. I still barely know the ranges of stuff in this game.

 

How were the connections btw? Didn't see any hiccups or anything on my end across all the games. 

[FlyingVe 330]

Sorry I couldn’t play over the weekend.

 

I wound up with stuff going on I didn’t initially expect.

[GetTheTables 1100]

Definitely been there. Hell I almost old man'd out of games yesterday.

 

Holiday week coming up but I should have time for more games throughout. Been great to crack back into this game. Starting to scout the field for a Tusk alternative. 

[FlyingVe 330]

Same here. I may be able to help if you can give me some of what you are looking for.

[GetTheTables 1100]

Honestly not 100% sure, like usually. Generally I like midscreen control, pokes, and straightforward damage. Not that big into mix ups or set play but I don't mind it (and honestly should probably branch out more).

 

Hence why Thunder was my original pick and why Tusk was who I decided to crack into this go around.

[FlyingVe 330]

Well you have a lot of choices there honestly.

 

Jago is the obvious one, unbelievably solid in most areas with exceptional normals and midrange presence. Limited Yolo factor though.

 

Kim has great movement and normals to play a very SFVish neutral. However, she has a resource to manage to really maximize.

 

Orchid is basically the same story as jago with more of a rush down bent. Her instinct is a lot more swingy than jago also.

 

Rash is very similar to Orchid actually. He definitely stronger but a less flexible character overall in my opinion.

 

Arbiter has the same girnormous normals as tusk, but severely lacks in mixups and mobility. In exchange he gets some solid set play (it’s the only time his mixup is actually scary). Also a gun.

 

Maya also has exceptional midrange and neutral buts it’s very unconventional. 

 

other obvious answers are Mira and Aria because they kind of do everything, you just have to live with their built in drawbacks.

 

Thunder is also a good choice but his neutral isn’t that devastating. He does have good buttons, and he get paid big time for getting in.

 

im sure I’m forgetting something. A side effect of the depth of the characters is that there are some I really don’t know very well.

[GetTheTables 1100]

Yeah I'm not gonna lie I cheated and used the fancy moving graphs on Ki.infil to start making choices.

 

I think my list is Kim, Orchid, and Maya. Orchid seems boring but the most accessible. Kim is kind of in the middle. Maya's daggers I'm sure would confuzzle the fuck out of me but the stuff she can do when she gets rolling looks so sick. Also her stage music is probably my favorite. I've always heard good things about Rash but even despite my history with Battletoads I never really messed around with him.

 

Also in the completely opposite direction I still want to fuck around with RAAM. He's not my style but he is kinda dumb in a fun way, up to and including him being a guest char choice at all.

[FlyingVe 330]

RAAM I know nothing about...

 

I don’t think Maya is that bad, but there just some more unconventional spots you have to stick to make sure you don’t run out of daggers.

 

Orchid does get some kickass combos as her airthrow restands (if memory serves)

[GetTheTables 1100]

I've messed around with RAAM a tiny bit. The analogy I've seen is USF4 Gief which means I'd probably hate him 98% of the time but that 2% would be sweet. 

 

And yeah with Maya if I just played her normally she would probably be pretty easy to get a handle on to start. I just got sucked into manuals with her daggers and that is cool, but also not really what I need to muck with right now when I still fail to finish my plate on CB combos.

 

I think it'll be Orchid next though. The grenade is a neat thing to mess around with and yeah that air throw can be fun. Also cats.

[FlyingVe 330]

Cats suck. But the dog is a “charge” character and my brain is to simple to handle that.

 

I wasn’t gelling with arbiter, so I think I’m gonna dump him and try Aganos... because big.

 

Regarding manuals. Don’t get to focused on that. I was deliberately avoiding them last time as I knew I didn’t have the muscle memory yet.

Edited November 23, 2020 by FlyingVe

[GetTheTables 1100]

Aganos is indeed big. From what I remember they put a whole new camera zoom in just for him right? Which was later used for the other big bois.

 

Yeah I'm not anywhere near doing manuals on purpose. I just think it is neat because when I first played this manuals seemed like dark sorcery. Now I totally get it. 

[Hawkingbird 2148]

Being the grappler player   have my eye on Hisako.  I like her normals more compared to Thunder but I have a difficult time getting her character mechanics down. I like the idea of her being able to delay strings to fuck with combo breaker timing and her rekka is weird. Need more lab time.

[FlyingVe 330]

Hisako is closest to Makoto (in SF) including going nuclear off a parry.

 

Delayed doubles is meh, in my opinion, it’s not gonna catch anyone reacting to doubles, and the universal tools already blow up guesswork. Not bad, but not her strongest feature.

 

Hisako is very good though.

[FlyingVe 330]

@GetTheTables @Hawkingbird @Vhozite

 

I’ve got some time for some KI if people are game?

[Hawkingbird 2148]

8 minutes ago, FlyingVe said:

@GetTheTables @Hawkingbird @Vhozite

 

I’ve got some time for some KI if people are game?

I'm up for some games. Are you on Steam, Xbox or windows?

[FlyingVe 330]

 

Just now, Hawkingbird said:

I'm up for some games. Are you on Steam, Xbox or windows?

Xbox. GT: FlyingVe

 

I’m online now so invite whenever?

[Hawkingbird 2148]

Just now, FlyingVe said:

 

Xbox. GT: FlyingVe

 

I’m online now so invite whenever?

I'm on Steam. We can't do invites for crossplay as GetTheTable and I found out the hard way. Someone has to create a public lobby, enable crossplay and hope for the best. 

[FlyingVe 330]

4 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

I'm on Steam. We can't do invites for crossplay as GetTheTable and I found out the hard way. Someone has to create a public lobby, enable crossplay and hope for the best. 

Okay, give mw  sec. GetTheTables managed to invite me before.

 

What is your tag for invite?

[Hawkingbird 2148]

Just now, FlyingVe said:

Okay, give mw  sec. GetTheTables managed to invite me before.

 

What is your tag for invite?

GetTheTables has the windows store version. That's already apart of Xbox live. I'm on Steam and it doesn't run on the same matchmaking service. 

 

I'm Hawkingbird on Steam.

[FlyingVe 330]

1 minute ago, Hawkingbird said:

GetTheTables has the windows store version. That's already apart of Xbox live. I'm on Steam and it doesn't run on the same matchmaking service. 

 

I'm Hawkingbird on Steam.

Oh, I will just make a lobby named HawkingBird then.

 

Edit: Nevermind, no custom names. Its up and named "Lets experiment".

Edited November 24, 2020 by FlyingVe