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6 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Ok but this isn't a podiatrist, they're nurses who are working on the front lines saying this stuff. If it was "we aren't taking it because Q said not to" fuck that, but if they have legit concerns and are in the health game, why are we moving the goalposts?  Before it was "medical professionals" now it's "only the medical professionals who agree with us." 

It was never "all medical professionals" I don't get my medical advice from my nurse, I get it from my doctor. That's who I listen to and always have. Nurses aren't doctors. Their nurses. Listen to your doctors.

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2 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Nope I saw it but you kept on with it so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cuz I decided it was too late to retract and since it was too late and the stuff he was saying made me laugh, I continued to post it. 

 

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3 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

they're nurses

For a lot of nurses (other healthcare professions too) it's just a job.  Lot's of those nurses are really fucking good at it too, but they aren't at all there for the why's and the how's of it.  They're just following the script of the job.  So something new comes along they're going to listen to the same general public sources as everybody else.

 

And sure, some doctor who knows what he's talking about IS going to tell them to go get it.  But many (most?) doctors are dicks, so even if he's technically right they aren't going to be listening to it.

 

So long story short, plenty of nurses are all about listening to Q or Alex Jones or whatever for medical advice. 

 

Shit, most hospitals you can find the spot outside where all the nurses who smoke still congregate.  And they see people dying of COPD every day.

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3 minutes ago, Reticently said:

For a lot of nurses (other healthcare professions too) it's just a job.  Lot's of those nurses are really fucking good at it too, but they aren't at all there for the why's and the how's of it.  They're just following the script of the job.  So something new comes along they're going to listen to the same general public sources as everybody else.

 

And sure, some doctor who knows what he's talking about IS going to tell them to go get it.  But many (most?) doctors are dicks, so even if he's technically right they aren't going to be listening to it.

 

So long story short, plenty of nurses are all about listening to Q or Alex Jones or whatever for medical advice. 

 

Shit, most hospitals you can find the spot outside where all the nurses who smoke still congregate.  And they see people dying of COPD every day.

This shit always pissed my sister and I off when it came to our parents. My dad was a respiratory therapist early in his army career and my mom is a retired nurse but they both smoked up until last April when my dad was diagnosed with throat cancer 

 

Thankfully they never smoked around my sister and I. But it still was absolutely ridiculous to me. Even as a kid 

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9 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Ok but this isn't a podiatrist, they're nurses who are working on the front lines saying this stuff. If it was "we aren't taking it because Q said not to" fuck that, but if they have legit concerns and are in the health game, why are we moving the goalposts?  Before it was "medical professionals" now it's "only the medical professionals who agree with us." 

I'm not moving goalposts. That isn't their area of expertise.  To say nurses are experts on viruses is being disingenuous. Hence the example I gave. Two doctors, two people that went to medical school, but indifferent fields. If I have architectural engineering question and I'm given an answer form a layman and a computer engineer. I'm going with the computer engineer. They have some knowledge in the field. However if I'm given an answer from an architectural engineer that is different from the computer engineer's. I'm going with the architectural engineer, the expert in the field.

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9 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

It was never "all medical professionals" I don't get my medical advice from my nurse, I get it from my doctor. That's who I listen to and always have. Nurses aren't doctors. Their nurses. Listen to your doctors.

Yeah, it absolutely was, especially when Joe Rogan weighed in on it and everyone was telling about him not being a medical professional but have been happy to take advice from Dr. Bill Gates. This shit is hopelessly partisan and it's a waste of time to even talk about it anymore because everyone believes what they believe and it's pointless to try to change anyone's mind.

 

I honestly wouldn't be sad if @misterBeeput a moratorium on discussing it here because this is inevitably what it turns into and it's a tired topic at this point. 

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5 minutes ago, Reticently said:

For a lot of nurses (other healthcare professions too) it's just a job.  Lot's of those nurses are really fucking good at it too, but they aren't at all there for the why's and the how's of it.  They're just following the script of the job.  So something new comes along they're going to listen to the same general public sources as everybody else.

 

And sure, some doctor who knows what he's talking about IS going to tell them to go get it.  But many (most?) doctors are dicks, so even if he's technically right they aren't going to be listening to it.

 

So long story short, plenty of nurses are all about listening to Q or Alex Jones or whatever for medical advice. 

 

Shit, most hospitals you can find the spot outside where all the nurses who smoke still congregate.  And they see people dying of COPD every day.

That's why my grandma retired. It wasn't that she couldn't do the job or was tired of working. She was tired of dealing with nurses that didn't care that just treated their position like a job. 

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10 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Yeah, it absolutely was, especially when Joe Rogan weighed in on it and everyone was telling about him not being a medical professional but have been happy to take advice from Dr. Bill Gates.

Joe Rogan deffinily isn't a medical professional so yea you shouldn't listen to him. Doesn't mean your nurse knows better then your Doctor does. Don't listen to Joe about medical nothing. That dude eats shrooms and elk meat to reach a higher plain of consciousness, don't listen to him about Medical anything lol. I will wouldn't listen to Bill Gates either but at least he has years of interacting with the field of vaccines. Its not much and i wouldnt listen to him but at least its something. Joe has fucking Fear Factor my dude. 

 

10 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

This shit is hopelessly partisan and it's a waste of time to even talk about it anymore because everyone believes what they believe and it's pointless to try to change anyone's mind

Youre one of the most defeatist give up people I've ever met. You seem to give up the moment it becomes difficult. Almost all your arguments always book down to "Yea that would be really hard" like yea man things worth doing tend to be hard and you have to push back against a lot crap. That's generally how it works. Giving like you seem argue for all the time accomplishes nothing. I ain't about it. 

 

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Losing my best friend still have me in emotional turmoil, because I was attracted to her. Considering what we been through, which is a combination of love and hate personality quite honestly, I had to give her up to her future husband. He was seriously going to attack me that night, balling his fists up with a shitty look everytime we walked pass each other. Since I've dropped her, he's happy, and very much laughing at me. She, at this point, told me that if I say a remark towards him and if whatever happens, she'll have his back. And guess what? Her fiancé is like my father, so that's that. 

 

Honestly, at the sametime, it is for the best, because I was tired of us being all under each other. She's not dedicated to anyone, but instead use people for financial benefits and sex. As soon as she gets something out of you that's beneficial to her, she'll throw you away, and admit it to me that she'll eventually push everyone away. Either way, I could never deal with any form of love feelings. It's just inconvenient for me and investing my all in someone, and then something happens where we exile from each other, I break down, and it's brutal where I've been drinking too much lately over someone like her.

 

I don't know if I can ever recover from this. It's best not to get close to anyone anymore, because I can't take rejection.

 

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6 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

Joe Rogan deffinily isn't a medical professional so yea you shouldn't listen to him. Doesn't mean your nurse knows better then your Doctor does. Don't listen to Joe about medical nothing. That dude eats shrooms and elk meat to reach a higher plain of consciousness, don't listen to him about Medical anything lol. I will wouldn't listen to Bill Gates either but at least he has years of interacting with the field of vaccines. Its not much and i wouldnt listen to him but at least its something. Joe has fucking Fear Factor my dude. 

 

Youre one of the most defeatist give up people I've ever met. You seem to give up the moment it becomes difficult. Almost all your arguments always book down to "Yea that would be really hard" like yea man things worth doing tend to be hard and you have to push back against a lot crap. That's generally how it works. Giving like you seem argue for all the time accomplishes nothing. I ain't about it. 

 

The fact that that's what you think my arguments are proves even more to me that you don't read them which is why we end up talking past each other more often than not. 

 

I enjoy arguing but even I can see that it's fruitless to talk about this issue here and in most places. It's little different than arguing about religion. But yeah I'm defeatist. 

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My mom got her booster last Saturday.

No adverse effects.

 

I'm glad bc her original series was Jan/Feb. Also in her school kids are getting positive COVID diagnoses every 7-8 days.

 

I'm glad even though she is an English teacher ,she is taking it. 

All of my relatives in the US except my Orlando cousins two kids - who are 2 yrs and 7 mo have taken it. I'm glad bc we were able meet in July after a long time and hopefully this coming Thanksgiving/Xmas.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

The fact that that's what you think my arguments are proves even more to me that you don't read them which is why we end up talking past each other more often than not. 

Yea maybe I'm not understanding you, but general when you and I talk it's me proposing a solution, you saying that would be really hard....and that's it. No other solutions or possible thoughts. You just say it would be hard and that's basically it. 

 

So if misunderstanding maybe expound more or try a different tactic because most of our conversations lately have been you saying something hard and that's basically the end of it. You don't have solutions of your own and frankly hard solutions are better then no solutions to me. Your arguments for me have been dead ends that lead no where. You provide little more then the idea would be hard to do and hard isn't a good reason not to for me. 

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GORT was so cool... imagine having your own indestructible robot servant and can apparently destroy anything.  The laser it could shoot from the eye/visor area was shown to disintegrate objects and living things...one scene he just ERASED these 2 soldiers...ha, they had no chance.  Earlier he was just erasing weapons and vehicles...but he erased those 2 guys  just like he has Darkseid's Omega Effect beams....another one of the coolest powers in the history of comics, btw... I'd sell my soul to have that shit.

 

now I'm wondering if Stan Lee  and Jack Kirby were at least partly inspired by GORT when designing Cyclops?  The design looks similar...Gort just happens to be an all-silver robot.

 

Now on movies! channel---Village of the Damned... I've never seen this one either.

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2 minutes ago, MillionX said:

GORT was so cool... imagine having your own indestructible robot servant and can apparently destroy anything.  The laser it should shoot from the eye/visor area was shown to disintegrate objects and living things...one scene he just ERASED these 2 soldiers...ha, they had no chance.  Earlier he was just erasing weapons and vehicles.

 

now I'm wondering if Stan Lee  and Jack Kirby were at least partly inspired by GORT when designing Cyclops?  The design looks similar...Gort just happens to be an all-silver robot.

 

Now on movies! channel---Village of the Damned... I've never seen this one either.

Is there any way to get it online?  I'm half interested in checking it out now.

 

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5 minutes ago, MillionX said:

now I'm wondering if Stan Lee  and Jack Kirby were at least partly inspired by GORT when designing Cyclops?  The design looks similar...Gort just happens to be an all-silver robot.

I don’t know about being inspired to make cyclops but I think Scott Dankman, Richard C. Levy, and Bryan L. McCoy were inspired by him to make Rom and the other Space Knights 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

Yea maybe I'm not understanding you, but general when you and I talk it's me proposing a solution, you saying that would be really hard....and that's it. No other solutions or possible thoughts. You just say it would be hard and that's basically it. 

 

So if misunderstanding maybe expound more or try a different tactic because most of our conversations lately have been you saying something hard and that's basically the end of it. You don't have solutions of your own and frankly hard solutions are better then no solutions to me. Your arguments for me have been dead ends that lead no where. You provide little more then the idea would be hard to do and hard isn't a good reason not to for me. 

I have proposed many solutions over the time that have gone completely over your head, including the one where we just stop talking about it because it's pointless every single time we talk about it as a group. It always ends up the same way. 

 

And the idea the someone who has questions about the vaccines being the same as some Jenny McCarthy fucktard is part of the problem because the fervently pro vaccine people can't wrap their heads around the idea that maybe people would have questions and lump them into the anit vax group. Again, this is why Im in favor of just stopping talking about it because it's pointless, doesn't change anything or anyone's mind, and its just arguments. 

 

Anyway, said my piece and I'm going to try really hard no to get involved in any covid related discussions here.

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5 hours ago, Faltimar the Dark said:

That may be, but my point still stands.

 

Here in cali crime...theft is crazy.  Cause the DA wont prosecute if the theft is less than 900 dollars...motherfuckers are just going into stores and stealing shit.  Causing business' to shut down.  Its real fucked. 

This is why I hate the "feels before reals" type of policy making, it really doesn't take into account perverse incentives and the logical conclusion of such policies.  I was watching a special on Seattle and they had black markets outside of stores they robbed where you could buy the stuff they stole for like 80% off store price, it was hilarious.  Those same retards are going to be crying in about 10 years when no one wants to bother putting stores in their neighborhoods because who is going to want to open a store to just lose money?

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I hate falling asleep while Village of the Damned was in the early part...currently they're showing "Creature"; this one is more recent, it's from 1986. "An alien-thing stalks corporate rivals from U.S. and German spaceships on one of Saturn's moons."

 

This reminds me there was a cool 2d game from a year or 2 ago called "Carrion", where you play the role of an amorphous alien monster that rolls/crawls around a facility, killing and eating people.  The only thing I didn't like about that game was that it hits a point where it's unclear where you are supposed to go next.  In fact I never finished it for that reason, unfortunately....I got it on Switch but it's on everything else as well, if I recall.

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I get the flu shot annually because I work for a healthcare organization and they give it to me for free.  I've had the flu 3 times, one of which was H1N1 which was MUCH worse than any other time I had the flu.  I'm not sure how much of a difference the flu shot really makes for a person like me who is physically fit and doesn't have any health complications.  Buuuut last year my son got the flu and I took care of him for 3 days and didn't get sick, so that's at least worth mentioning.

 

 

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8 hours ago, DoctaMario said:

I have proposed many solutions over the time that have gone completely over your head, including the one where we just stop talking about it because it's pointless every single time we talk about it as a group. It always ends up the same way. 

Well then I dunno what to tell you because you pretty much always join the conversation of your own volition. I don't pull you in you start talking to me so I'm gonna respond to you. 

 

I am I supposed to ignore you when you adress me during a conversation? I can do that if that is what you want. 

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y'know, now that we've hit this point in entertainment where sexy women in various stages of undress are apparently a bad thing....it surprises me that Moxxi from Borderlands is still dressed the way she is, with those gorgeous tits on display for us.  It just occurred to me that more than likely... she will look different if she appears again in "Borderlands 4" (or the inevitable "REMAKE" of Borderlands 1 and 2), since this is the path that the "progressive" people want to take, it seems.  Haha she might be an A-cup in the next game, or rendered to look just androgynous, or wearing a big sweater and loose-fitting jeans, or perhaps a big coat like FL4K.

 

It's just stupid but also amusing to me that "the male gaze" and scantily clad, beautiful women are such a horrible thing to these people....things that they wish to eradicate from all forms of entertainment.  It's unfortunate that this type of strange person has infiltrated the various sections of the entertainment industry to such a large degree that they now call the shots on what we are "allowed" to see even in video games.  These are the type of weirdos that would seriously try to remake actual porn into some PG-rated nonsense that no one would want to see.

 

heh, mannnn I can't wait to see just how laughably tame the new Saint's Row and future iterations of just about any major franchise will be in the next few years.  

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12 minutes ago, MillionX said:

y'know, now that we've hit this point in entertainment where sexy women in various stages of undress are apparently a bad thing....it surprises me that Moxxi from Borderlands is still dressed the way she is, with those gorgeous tits on display for us.  It just occurred to me that more than likely... she will look different if she appears again in "Borderlands 4" (or the inevitable "REMAKE" of Borderlands 1 and 2), since this is the path that the "progressive" people want to take, it seems.  Haha she might be an A-cup in the next game, or rendered to look just androgynous, or wearing a big sweater and loose-fitting jeans, or perhaps a big coat like FL4K.

 

It's just stupid but also amusing to me that "the male gaze" and scantily clad, beautiful women are such a horrible thing to these people....things that they wish to eradicate from all forms of entertainment.  It's unfortunate that this type of strange person has infiltrated the various sections of the entertainment industry to such a large degree that they now call the shots on what we are "allowed" to see even in video games.  These are the type of weirdos that would seriously try to remake actual porn into some PG-rated nonsense that no one would want to see.

 

heh, mannnn I can't wait to see just how laughably tame the new Saint's Row and future iterations of just about any major franchise will be in the next few years.  

I get that sentiment, but I find it hard to care about that. There's just so much porn out there that I can't even fathom what it's like to care about sexy outfits in TV/Movies/Games anymore. That's unless the changes to a once-sexy outfit are really fucking up the character somehow.

 

I remember when people were complaining about the female ninjas getting more covered up in Mortal Kombat 11. While I'll admit the costume designer's reason for it was bullshit, I found myself wondering: why does anyone need sexy female ninjas in the goriest Mortal Kombat yet?

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sheeeittt, I just don't like my entertainment being "neutered" in any way; I'd rather there truly be no limits to what we're getting....and it's especially annoying when we're 98% sure it's due to some political/ideological reasoning (*or certain people just jumping on a bandwagon because they *think* this new "sanitized" era of entertainment is what will sell....that's an even dumber situation if that's what the deal is, imo)

 

In Saint's Row particularly... I'm already expecting there to be NO pimps and ho characters walking the streets, probably no scummy sex/fetish clubs anywhere in there either...no missions where you might be driving around a politician as he gets services from a high-priced ho only to blackmail him later, etc. etc.....no outrageously disgusting humor or weapons (you know damn well that silly purple dildo weapon probably won't return).  If this were a movie franchise, it's like the old ones were very much a "rated R" kinda thing...and this new one will be sad, downgraded "PG" at best.  It probably won't even be as violent either.  

 

...and imagine---if in customization, the player will have no options for sexy clothing IF and only if they make it a female character...no short skirts, revealing tops, and definitely no bikinis.  That will be hilarious if it turns out to be that way; they will have truly stepped in it then and will rightly be clowned to hell and back online.  I look forward to this new dumpster fire we have on the way.

 

I prefer the old days when sexy characters were allowed to be sexy... and violence was allowed to be as wild as you could imagine.  It's interesting that they aren't going so hard in reigning back the violence though...only the sexual content is "problematic" for these people for whatever reason.....at least so far.

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1 minute ago, MillionX said:

I prefer the old days when sexy characters were allowed to be sexy... and violence was allowed to be as wild as you could imagine.  It's interesting that they aren't going so hard in reigning back the violence though...only the sexual content is "problematic" for these people for whatever reason.....at least so far.

The classic Murrican dichotomy- Do glory kills in Doom , but please dont show a titty.

From what I've seen, Europe (especially France) seems to still allow sexiness.

 

MK situation seems they want to give the idea of being progressive, but really they're just pandering for money.

Isnt one of the staff who works in the costume design  mtf trans now?  That could be another factor.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, DangerousJ said:

The classic Murrican dichotomy- Do glory kills in Doom , but please dont show a titty.

From what I've seen, Europe (especially France) seems to still allow sexiness.

 

MK situation seems they want to give the idea of being progressive, but really they're just pandering for money.

Isnt one of the staff who works in the costume design  mtf trans now?  That could be another factor.

 

 

 

Yeah, that person at Netherrealm Studios is more than likely the reason/influence for certain design decisions in the MK franchise at this point. (female characters no longer allowed to be scantily clad and hot.)  This is what naturally happens if too many of them infiltrate things like a game development company, once they ascend to a level of having real sway in the design process.  Identity and agenda are seemingly everything to them, so it will be a major element in just about anything they propose for the product....so that's what you end up with, basically....it's like hiring let's say... an extremely afrocentric "Hotep" type that wants everything to only highlight Black characters and show how race is related to everything, how they invented everything and that character must be the one that saves the day, etc. etc. etc. (all while things like story, characters, fan-service stuff like sexy females, etc. takes a backseat in priority.)

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9 hours ago, RSG3 said:

Well then I dunno what to tell you because you pretty much always join the conversation of your own volition. I don't pull you in you start talking to me so I'm gonna respond to you. 

 

I am I supposed to ignore you when you adress me during a conversation? I can do that if that is what you want. 

I meant from here on out we stop arguing about it. That's my solution. Because it's the same people saying the same stuff ending the same way. I.e. it's pointless. And yes I've joined in, but I'm going to try really hard not to from here on out. 

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