The MEGASHOCK Saloon Thread 3: Chinder Chagger Edition

[Dayaan]

8 minutes ago, BornWinner said:

 

He said he'll make a new phone if this is as extreme as he's making it out to be. It would be funny if Apple removed it, because, unlike Android, Apple doesn't allow you to sideload apps like with Android's APK. He would have to make a whole new OS for his new phone too, because if Android removed Twitter and he wanted it to run off a fork, Google would have to approve it. Which they won't. Obviously. He'd need to make a new phone with new hardware and software, just to make a device that comes with Twitter preinstalled.

 

😂 

[Darc_Requiem]

8 minutes ago, Dayaan said:

He said he'll make a new phone if this is as extreme as he's making it out to be. It would be funny if Apple removed it, because, unlike Android, Apple doesn't allow you to sideload apps like with Android's APK. He would have to make a whole new OS for his new phone too, because if Android removed Twitter and he wanted it to run off a fork, Google would have to approve it. Which they won't. Obviously. He'd need to make a new phone with new hardware and software, just to make a device that comes with Twitter preinstalled.

 

😂 

Honestly, if he really did go that route. He'd just need to design the software. He'd just get the phone manufactured by an existing brand. IIRC HTC manufactured the initial Google phones.

[Reticently]

There are surely some open source phone OS out there Elno could gank to get a "Twitter phone" up and running quickly.

 

But who is going to jump ship to a phone platform that isn't going to have support for shit like their banking apps for years if ever?

[Daemos]

I would *love* if Apple removed his app. Just for the lols. It would be delicious!

[AriesWarlock]

He gave up his balls for the goal

 

 

[Dayaan]

1 hour ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Honestly, if he really did go that route. He'd just need to design the software. He'd just get the phone manufactured by an existing brand. IIRC HTC manufactured the initial Google phones.

You'd think that, but Google and Android have such a ball-splittingly tough grip on those big manufacturers with exclusivity and hardware compatibility that he'd have to make his own. This wouldn't even be in terms of him being bullied into it, he's not even being let into the playground. With that said, the hardware is easier to design than the software in this case, I agree.

 

52 minutes ago, Reticently said:

There are surely some open source phone OS out there Elno could gank to get a "Twitter phone" up and running quickly.

Yes, but none in mass production.

 

52 minutes ago, Reticently said:

But who is going to jump ship to a phone platform that isn't going to have support for shit like their banking apps for years if ever?

Absolutely no one.

 

50 minutes ago, Daemos said:

I would *love* if Apple removed his app. Just for the lols. It would be delicious!

I agree, it would be hysterical.

 

I think @Reticentlyhas the best theory that he could probably get some open source phone to take him if he waves enough cash in their face, but I'm sure even the anorexic developers who worked on those know that it would be a short term gain assuming they can even push for the scale of production that Elon would need to replace the basic Android phone.

 

This strategy would work well in South Asia in boosts. You people have likely never heard of Q-Mobile, but it is one of the highest selling phone companies in Pakistan, for instance. Random phone companies pop up constantly and get a lot of success in South Asia because the only thing that South Asians care about is penetration pricing. In an ironic sense, Pakistanis are smart with their stupidity. They don't care about privacy or storage or data recovery or cloud services. They only care about calling, texting, and YouTube. That accounts for 90% of what people do on their phones no matter where they are in the world, and yet we fuss over price, perceived value, features and more. While this is undoubtedly better for the consumer in America, this creates competition that can only be matched by megacorps who can afford to create products with that many draws on a scale that huge. Samsung and Apple have huge market share each in Pakistan, but they aren't matching Infinix or Q-Mobile (Ok, maybe Samsung is but only because they sell a lot of phones for about $100 with full HD cameras, screens and e-sims) because they sell products that are perceived to be way too expensive for something that a $50 can achieve. Apple is for sure excluded from the conversation and is usually laughed out of the room when they try to lobby to increase sales in Pakistan.

 

Back to my original statement. You'll notice I said, "... in boosts."

 

With hones that cheap anyone can make one and sell it. You have a lot of competition always coming up. Gotta relaunch and penetrate the market more, Elon. You should know all about penetration considering what's happening to your net worth.

[Darc_Requiem]

13 minutes ago, Dayaan said:

You'd think that, but Google and Android have such a ball-splittingly tough grip on those big manufacturers with exclusivity and hardware compatibility that he'd have to make his own. This wouldn't even be in terms of him being bullied into it, he's not even being let into the playground. With that said, the hardware is easier to design than the software in this case, I agree.

 

HTC's has gone from a powerhouse to damn near persona non grata. I'm sure they'd be happy to take Elon's money.

[axeman61]

I just love how hard the nuthuggers are clinging to Elon with this. He has a good portion of these fools thinking he can compete with Apple for real if they boot him off. They're smoking crack with levels to it.

Edited November 29, 2022 by axeman61

[DangerousJ]

Beware Million's psychic power part 2...

 

 

 

 

[DoctaMario]

1 hour ago, Reticently said:

There are surely some open source phone OS out there Elno could gank to get a "Twitter phone" up and running quickly.

 

But who is going to jump ship to a phone platform that isn't going to have support for shit like their banking apps for years if ever?

I don't know about you, but most banking/credit card apps I've used are glorified web apps that you could still access in a browser. Anyone that worried about losing access to those probably isn't the core audience for a new OS.

 

With that said though, I don't see how it could be a bad thing to have a third potentially viable smartphone OS now that WindowsPhone, RIM, and Palm are dead. Put it on decent phones with unlockable bootloaders so you could root or even dual boot them if you wanted? I bet it could be a pretty good OS given enough time.

[Reticently]

12 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Anyone that worried about losing access to those probably isn't the core audience for a new OS.

For most new OS that's true, but in this case its core audience is people afraid to lose access to the Twitter app.  Probably not a crowd comfortable with convoluted work-arounds, especially considering they could have just opened Twitter in a browser on their existing phone.

[IcyBlackDeep]

It's not that complicated, you just need to take any Android phone, put your own store app on there along with Google Play store, and preload the Twitter app on it.  You don't need some new OS.

 

But I don't think people who buy iPhones buy anything other than iPhones.

[Dayaan]

3 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said:

HTC's has gone from a powerhouse to damn near persona non grata. I'm sure they'd be happy to take Elon's money.

🤔

 

Is this true? I didn't know that, nor would I ever have considered that to be the case. In which case:

 

A) Thank you for educating me.

B) If they do make the Elonphone, it'll be funny.

[DoctaMario]

2 hours ago, Reticently said:

For most new OS that's true, but in this case its core audience is people afraid to lose access to the Twitter app.  Probably not a crowd comfortable with convoluted work-arounds, especially considering they could have just opened Twitter in a browser on their existing phone.

Yeah that's funniest part is that YOU CAN LAUNCH TWITTER IN A BROWSER and lose minimal functionality 😂 Man, Twitter really has killed brain cells.

[TheInfernoman]

I WOULD SUPPORT MUSK MOBILE!  🙃

 

 

 

[Dayaan]

37 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Yeah that's funniest part is that YOU CAN LAUNCH TWITTER IN A BROWSER and lose minimal functionality 😂 Man, Twitter really has killed brain cells.

I want to see what the psychology is behind people getting apps that are just browser web apps without a search bar. Discord on desktop works the same. It's built using Electron, which gives you the features of Chromium, which is what your browser is built on. Yes, if you are using Chrome now, you are basically using the same framework as what Discord is built on.

 

Chromium is used to build a lot more than just Chrome and Discord though. I'm on Linux and for privacy reasons I use Ungoogled Chromium, which is Chrome without the "features" of Google. No tracking, no "personalised" ads, no cookies, nothing. You can use a lot more, or even build your own!

 

Electron is pretty interesting. Even FightCade's GUI is built using it. Here is a link to the Electron website for those who are interested:

https://www.electronjs.org/

[RSG3]

I sometimes use Discord on the computer and it's app is nice enough for that. 

[DangerousJ]

How the mighty have fallen...

 

 

[Dayaan]

43 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

I sometimes use Discord on the computer and it's app is nice enough for that. 

That's what I'm saying. I'd rather use an app, but why do I feel that way? For most people I can get the argument that it's more convenient to press one button and have the service open as opposed to opening a browser, typing a halfway URL and hitting enter to load into a website that you may have to log into after clearing your porn history.

 

I'm not like that. I re-log in to everything. I'm ok with that because I love privacy. Still, I use the Discord app on my desktop. Why do I do that? My browser doesn't take up that much RAM, so why? I want a deep look into the psychology behind this. Would be interesting, no?

[Sonichuman]

1 hour ago, DoctaMario said:

Yeah that's funniest part is that YOU CAN LAUNCH TWITTER IN A BROWSER and lose minimal functionality 😂 Man, Twitter really has killed brain cells.

I'm not even sure its just twitter because we get people all the time calling in to our insurance company asking if we have an app when the website is perfectly mobile friendly.  People just want apps even if its the exact same functionality as using it through a browser.  I don't understand it myself.

[Gimpy]

18 hours ago, Hecatom said:

[Gimpy]

 

[Hecatom]

[axeman61]

15 hours ago, Dayaan said:

That's what I'm saying. I'd rather use an app, but why do I feel that way? For most people I can get the argument that it's more convenient to press one button and have the service open as opposed to opening a browser, typing a halfway URL and hitting enter to load into a website that you may have to log into after clearing your porn history.

 

I'm not like that. I re-log in to everything. I'm ok with that because I love privacy. Still, I use the Discord app on my desktop. Why do I do that? My browser doesn't take up that much RAM, so why? I want a deep look into the psychology behind this. Would be interesting, no?

People want to be able to use a service on the go sometimes. That's it.

 

People want to use twitter on their phone, in case something happens they want to tweet about right then and there. One of the original uses of twitter was quick communication in case of a wide emergency like an earthquake. "What people want to tweet about NOW" has changed considerably, but still.

 

Aside from that, some apps have mobile features that browser versions don't. I use You Need a Budget consistently only because the app is so good. Aside from the basic thing of being able to log a purchase right then and there, location will try to guess your payee and budget category so you don't have to plug it in. It's a small thing, but it's good.

Edited November 30, 2022 by axeman61

[J-ride]

1 hour ago, Hecatom said:

Shaggy has to constantly hide his true power level.

[MillionX]

Oh yeah, here was that other time Tommy had to fight his past selves:

Tommy was just "That Dude", folks.  Grand Hokage status.

[VirginDefiler]

im hurting right now.

my moms fell. on thanksgiving day.

and she fractured a bone in her spine. lower back. which is bad but what has me really worried. is that when she fell on her butt she also hit the back of her head n her head was bleeding. and swelled up. and ever since shes been getting more n more incoherent and nonsensical day by day.  she is in alotta pain in her lower back but its her head im worried about. she says her head doesnt hurt at all anymore but her incoherent talk is getting..worse.

im very worried.

i told the docs to get neurologists to examine her brain to see whats up. shes in the hospital rn. her lower back is one thing but her brain is another. more serious issue.

😟

pray for her please fellas.

 

[Darc_Requiem]

I'm so sorry dude. I'm hoping for the best for you and your mom. 😔

[VirginDefiler]

thanks bros. ❤️

i just feel extremely stressed out rn. feeling helpless about this nightmarish scenario taking place. i just want her brain to be ok. her spine is secondary in a far more distant 2nd position of importance to her overall health. 

Edited November 30, 2022 by VirginDefiler

[DoctaMario]

20 hours ago, Dayaan said:

I want to see what the psychology is behind people getting apps that are just browser web apps without a search bar. Discord on desktop works the same. It's built using Electron, which gives you the features of Chromium, which is what your browser is built on. Yes, if you are using Chrome now, you are basically using the same framework as what Discord is built on.

 

Chromium is used to build a lot more than just Chrome and Discord though. I'm on Linux and for privacy reasons I use Ungoogled Chromium, which is Chrome without the "features" of Google. No tracking, no "personalised" ads, no cookies, nothing. You can use a lot more, or even build your own!

 

Electron is pretty interesting. Even FightCade's GUI is built using it. Here is a link to the Electron website for those who are interested:

https://www.electronjs.org/

 

19 hours ago, Sonichuman said:

I'm not even sure its just twitter because we get people all the time calling in to our insurance company asking if we have an app when the website is perfectly mobile friendly.  People just want apps even if its the exact same functionality as using it through a browser.  I don't understand it myself.

I think a lot of it is that apps are basically like a one button macro to go to some company's site or to use their service. People probably  find it easier just to launch an app, and the apps are usually smoother than at least the mobile websites (on purpose?) and with more functionality than a browser page.

 

But when you download an app to your phone or computer, it turns into a data gathering device for that company. It can find out all sorts of information about your device, what other apps you have on it, how often you use them, what time of day you use them most often, etc. Social media apps especially are notorious for this. So if you care about privacy, it's better to use the browser version of most sites if possible, or at least grab open source forks of social media apps that cut down on the amount of data hoovering and tracking those apps do.

[Dayaan]

55 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

So if you care about privacy, it's better to use the browser version of most sites if possible, or at least grab open source forks of social media apps that cut down on the amount of data hoovering and tracking those apps do.

You could:

On 11/26/2022 at 1:28 PM, Dayaan said:

Use a fresh system, install Arch Linux, configure a Virtual Machine, configure a Virtual Machine inside your Virtual Machine, use pseudonyms throughout, use cookie blockers, manually block all cookies, throw in a hypervisor config at some point and then you can start browsing.

 

Issue is complexity, and using community versions of social media apps will get you omega banned. Can't use all of Discord without paying 😔. Eat the rich.

[IcyBlackDeep]

1 hour ago, DoctaMario said:

the apps are usually smoother than at least the mobile websites (on purpose?) and with more functionality than a browser page.

 

But when you download an app to your phone or computer, it turns into a data gathering device for that company.

Hell yeah that's on purpose.

[DoctaMario]

1 hour ago, Dayaan said:

You could:

 

Issue is complexity, and using community versions of social media apps will get you omega banned. Can't use all of Discord without paying 😔. Eat the rich.

I've done a lot of privacy hardening on my phone, but I think it can get to a point where it's like being a germophobe and you can go overboard with it. If I were Edward Snowden it would behoove me to go to those lengths with it, but some of the folks who are into it, you'd think they had FBI planted outside their houses.

 

Ive used community versions of Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Twitch for 2+ years and haven't been banned from any of them. If I have to use their shitty apps to use the service, maybe it's a service I don't need. What does paying for Discord get you besides being able to use your emojis anywhere?

Edited December 1, 2022 by DoctaMario

[Dayaan]

51 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

I've done a lot of privacy hardening on my phone, but I think it can get to a point where it's like being a germophobe

Haha, good point. I am a nut about that, but only on desktop. I use a stock iPhone, so either I'm lazy, a hypocrite or both.

 

52 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

you'd think they had FBI planted outside their houses.

They FBI aren't outside anyone's houses. Why would they spend money on that when they can sit in our phones? 👀

 

53 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

ve used community versions of Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and Twitch for 2+ years and haven't been banned from any of them.

Could you link me to a Discord one? Every one I've come across has that risk attached, and I am not into any of that because I have... way too much stored on my Discord to let it go.

 

53 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

What does paying for Discord get you besides being able to use your emojis anywhere?

More file upload flexibility. Very useful for programmers and artists - crazy useful. The emoji thing is useless to me; whoever pays for that is a corporate simp. I don't have Nitro anyway. Never have, I don't think, aside from when it was gifted free to me. I will never pay to be allowed to manipulate content that I created. That is fucking insanity. I would rather upload it to Drive or just ship over a USB. I have done that for confidential things. No way am I paying Discord to let me use tiny PNGs that they didn't even create.

[DoctaMario]

1 hour ago, Dayaan said:

Haha, good point. I am a nut about that, but only on desktop. I use a stock iPhone, so either I'm lazy, a hypocrite or both.

 

They FBI aren't outside anyone's houses. Why would they spend money on that when they can sit in our phones? 👀

 

Could you link me to a Discord one? Every one I've come across has that risk attached, and I am not into any of that because I have... way too much stored on my Discord to let it go.

 

More file upload flexibility. Very useful for programmers and artists - crazy useful. The emoji thing is useless to me; whoever pays for that is a corporate simp. I don't have Nitro anyway. Never have, I don't think, aside from when it was gifted free to me. I will never pay to be allowed to manipulate content that I created. That is fucking insanity. I would rather upload it to Drive or just ship over a USB. I have done that for confidential things. No way am I paying Discord to let me use tiny PNGs that they didn't even create.

The discord app I use is Bluecord. It's functionally the same but there are some other options available in it and from what I understand, it's a little more privacy friendly than the regular app, but I'm not sure there's an iPhone version. What kjnd of upload flexibility do they offer? Seems like a weird thing to pay for but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

If you're truly interested in privacy on your phone, a Pixel of all things (unlocked bootloader!) and Lineage OS or one of of the more privacy friendly roms is the way to go. I have a Note 20 Ultra and I love it, but Samsung has a bad record where privacy is concerned and you can't root the American ones unfortunately, but Android is a lot easier to customize and harden for privacy since Apple keeps things pretty locked down and non-transparent.

 

I used to jailbreak all the iPhones I had but that got to be a pain in the ass as jailbreaks got weirder and harder to come by as the exploits became worth money to sell for bounties, so I switched to Android. But there's really no way to know what kind of telemetry Apple has going on and they're obviously not too fussed about privacy given that they're giving backdoors to people's iCloud photos to look for "child pron."

Edited December 1, 2022 by DoctaMario

[Dayaan]

9 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

The discord app I use is Bluecord.

I've had mates get banned on there, so I can't take that risk, sorry. I'm happy it's working for you but I have too much to lose. : /

 

10 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

If you're truly interested in privacy on your phone, a Pixel of all things (unlocked bootloader!) and Lineage OS or one of of the more privacy friendly roms is the way to go.

Noted. I literally cannot change for some time as until I finish this PC build (just one part to go but I have to wait till February), all my work is done on Mac OS and iOS. I can't replace anything and couldn't afford to even if I had the margine. For my next phone I'll consider an Android, specifically a Pixel. 

 

Thanks!

[DangerousJ]

Spider-man's Greatest Moments:

 

Arguably the end of the "classic" Spider-man era, this issue brings us the most popular villain outside of the Lee/Ditko/Romita era. (for good or ill)

 

"Venom"  (ASM 300)   (1988)

(I have this image  as a refrigerator magnet.)

 

Why is it the "end of an era"? 

 

3 reasons.

 

1) Pete and MJ are recently married (It happened in at 1987 annual but in ASM chronology it was just a few issues ago.

2) Todd McFarlane's run just started in #298 and will redefine Spidey visually for the next decade. Having him draw the debut of Venom will only make this clear that this Image era is beginning.

3) IMO, the decline of story relative to art begins here in the Spider-titles.

 

Venom spooks MJ and forces them to move to a new apt.

Pete gets the sonic blaster and thinks his spidey-sense will protect him from the alien, but..

 

Apparently, Brock's origin is tied into the serial killer known as Sin-Eater who killed Capt. Jean DeWolff and others.

He reported that Emil Gregg was the murderer, but as the story showed, Gregg was a disturbed man who only thought he was sin-Eater.

When spidey/DD revealed that the real killer was Stan Carter, Brock was fired and forced to write about  celebrity"  drivel.

Brock decided to commit suicide in the Lady of Saints church when suddenly...

 

 

Brock webs Spidey to a bell clapper intending to squash him, but Spidey ingeniously gets him to use up all his webbing that is generated by the symbiote.

 

After dropping off Venom at FF HQ, MJ and Pete decide that the black costume is not the side he wishes to show the world and so...

 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by DangerousJ

[J-ride]

This driver was using hacks!

https://www.facebook.com/reel/796414658327370/?s=single_unit

[Hecatom]

On 11/28/2022 at 3:44 PM, TheInfernoman said:

Strange world has been bombing hard. But I don't know how much Disney cares about this movie. Very little merch in the theme parks for what is a holiday theatrical release. That and I see no kids in park with any merch we do havr

🤔

 

They certainly didn't care, seeing how little promotion they did for it, and that they sandwished it between WF and Avatar

[Hecatom]

[J-ride]

56 minutes ago, Hecatom said:

 

They certainly didn't care, seeing how little promotion they did for it, and that they sandwished it between WF and Avatar

I saw a few trailers for it on the internet but it didn't really seem all that interesting to me.

Edited December 1, 2022 by J-ride

[DangerousJ]

 

 

 

[HD-Man]

Chanel West Coast's laugh on an infinite loop has to be one of the nine circles of Hell

[OPTIMUS124]

[DoctaMario]

10 hours ago, Dayaan said:

I've had mates get banned on there, so I can't take that risk, sorry. I'm happy it's working for you but I have too much to lose. : /

 

 

That's weird, it's pretty safe. What got them banned?

[Chadouken]

I've been banned from sites before 😂

[Chadouken]

@AriesWarlockare you familiar with Ricky Kasso?

[Darc_Requiem]

2 hours ago, Chadouken said:

I've been banned from sites before 😂

Resetera and NeoGAF don't count Chad  😉

[DangerousJ]

Ladies and Gentlemen...

 

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Teaser Trailer!

 

DIRECTED BY A BLACK MAN!!!!

 

June 6,2023!

 

 

Edited December 1, 2022 by DangerousJ

[DoctaMario]

2 hours ago, Chadouken said:

I've been banned from sites before 😂

I know youve been banned from Rocket League

Edited December 1, 2022 by DoctaMario