KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, DoctaMario said: They used to do that crap in the music industry too to make it sound like an album had sold a ton of copies from the outset when in reality they were just sitting in record store stockrooms. What counts towards total sales, tho? Like if walmart thinks that they're gonna sell 1 million, and they only sell 800k, didn't nintendo still "sell" 1 million copies? Not trying to be argumentative or shitty, I'm just trying to understand how sales are counted Quote Link to post
DoctaMario 977 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 51 minutes ago, KingTubb said: What counts towards total sales, tho? Like if walmart thinks that they're gonna sell 1 million, and they only sell 800k, didn't nintendo still "sell" 1 million copies? Not trying to be argumentative or shitty, I'm just trying to understand how sales are counted Far as I know, it only counts as a sale when the barcode is scanned at checkout. I'm not sure how it works in the game industry, but in music, unsold merch could be shipped back to the labels after a certain amount of time, the albums were basically taken on consignment in a sense. The "we shipped x number of copies" is basically a press release saying "we expect big sales and want to throw out an impressive number to make the casual reader think this game is a hit already." KingTubb and Hecatom 1 1 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, DoctaMario said: the albums were basically taken on consignment in a sense. Ok, that makes sense, thanks. Digital sales muddies everything too. Quote Link to post
Sonichuman 1623 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 53 minutes ago, KingTubb said: What counts towards total sales, tho? Like if walmart thinks that they're gonna sell 1 million, and they only sell 800k, didn't nintendo still "sell" 1 million copies? Not trying to be argumentative or shitty, I'm just trying to understand how sales are counted Depends on deals are set up with retailers. From how I understand it you can mostly assume that 'shipments' are nearly the same as sells since thats thats been sent out to retailers even though thats not how much has actualy been sold out of the stores. The difference being that some retailers do have the option of selling back stock if they have an overabundance. KingTubb and Hecatom 1 1 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Sonichuman said: The difference being that some retailers do have the option of selling back stock if they have an overabundance. Ok thanks. AoC's shipments is what started this topic, right? Considering that's nintendo first party, shipments and sales are probably pretty close. Doesn't that game have some serious performance issues? Quote Link to post
iStu X 3477 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KingTubb said: Doesn't that game have some serious performance issues? Not enough to where it’s unplayable. I know some maps have a really hard time doing multiplayer but that’s about it. I 100%ed the game and sunk almost 100 hours into it with zero issues playing Edited January 26 by iStu X KingTubb and Wellman 2 Quote Link to post
Hawkingbird 2093 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, DoctaMario said: I don't know why they still crow about shipments like all those copies shipped have actually been sold. They used to do that crap in the music industry too to make it sound like an album had sold a ton of copies from the outset when in reality they were just sitting in record store stockrooms. Shipped copies are sales. Sales to retailers. Shipped units show how much demand their is for the product. Sonichuman and RSG3 2 Quote Link to post
AriesWarlock 1773 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 @Sonero TheInfernoman and MillionX 2 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 4 minutes ago, iStu X said: I 100%ed the game and sunk almost 100 hours into it with zero issues playing damn, nice! A game can't hold my attention more than 30 hours unless it has coop or online play of some sort. Every time I start a RPG I know I'm just going to end up disappointed in myself Quote Link to post
iStu X 3477 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 9 minutes ago, KingTubb said: A game can't hold my attention more than 30 hours unless it has coop or online play of some sort. Im the opposite. I absolutely hate online gaming cause it feels so synthetic. It doesn’t feel like I’m actually gaming with a friend or a person. Just an npc that may or may not call me the N word. If a game has co-op I prefer couch co-op. It’s simply better. But don’t get me wrong, I get why people love online co-op so much. Friends from other states, friends from states you use to live in, old co workers, family members, etc. it’s just not for me. I loathe it. but that doesn’t mean I won’t do it. It’s just not my favorite in any ways shape or form. For instance, Back on SRK we had a pretty active Mario Kart scene and it was a lot of fun. I also play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe with my sister and BIL a lot. Edited January 26 by iStu X KingTubb 1 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, iStu X said: Just an npc that may or may not call me the N word. My friends don't say that shit I never play online co-op with strangers. Fuck that noise. I have to have VC and it has to be a homie. 1 minute ago, iStu X said: If a game has co-op I prefer couch co-op. It’s simply better. 100% agree, and it's starting to become a rarity in a lot of games, or at least it was when I was in college around 2012-2015. My roommate and I were always trying to find a couch co-op game and our options were always more limited than we thought they would be. But I will say that the last gen (PS4) had some serious bangers in the couch co-op category: I'm looking at you overcooked and Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime Also, the pandemic has thrown a wrench in those gears. Quote Link to post
iStu X 3477 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, KingTubb said: My friends don't say that shit I never play online co-op with strangers. Fuck that noise. I have to have VC and it has to be a homie. Neither do mine. But you get what I mean. Lol. And yeah, the pandemic has made it a lot harder to couch co-op. KingTubb 1 Quote Link to post
MillionX 2877 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) I hate that a lot of those indie games *only* have couch-co-op if they have it at all... that game "Crawl" comes to mind, where it's 3 players in the role of ghosts and monsters vs. 1 who is a living human (then whoever got the killing blow gets their humanity back so now that person is the target). I also prefer co-op in general to direct Vs. mode stuff... it's just generally more fun for me... like in Gears, I'm always up for some good ol' Horde or Escape action... I'll take that over regular Deathmatch or Zone/territory-capture type stuff any day.....though there's still an enjoyable co-op aspect of *team* deathmatch though... Best couch-co-op times for me--- a friend and his wife were also big fans of Phantasy Star Online, so I often went over there, and the 3 of us would be on adventures in that game for hours at a time, almost every weekend....so many good times were had back then...we had the Gamecube version but also played a bit on the Xbox version. We also would play Hunter: The Reckoning and Champions of Norrath together. Edited January 26 by MillionX KingTubb and DangerousJ 2 Quote Link to post
Chadouken 1265 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 46 minutes ago, iStu X said: I get why people love online co-op so much. Friends from other states, friends from states you use to live in, old co workers, family members, etc. it’s just not for me. I loathe it. I play Rocket League every night with a couple good friends of mine who live across the country. During this pandemic, it has really been my primary source of social interaction. I get to hang with some buddies online for an hour or so after the baby goes down and we can clown on each other and blow off steam. I tell you, it's a much needed sanity break, and a safe way to interact in the age of covid. Been getting back into Destiny lately, too. Man, the co-op in that game is amazing. Just going around to the different planets doing strikes and shit, and killing all the fucks together with friends. And I finally got a raid group organized to try the new raid this coming Friday. Hype! DangerousJ, DoctaMario, KingTubb and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post
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iStu X 3477 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Chadouken said: 1 hour ago, iStu X said: I play Rocket League every night with a couple good friends of mine who live across the country. During this pandemic, it has really been my primary source of social interaction. I get to hang with some buddies online for an hour or so after the baby goes down and we can clown on each other and blow off steam. I tell you, it's a much needed sanity break, and a safe way to interact in the age of covid. for sure, and that’s awesome. But a lot of my friends back home play games I genuinely have no interest in. I’m reluctantly retired from fighters due to the neuropathy in my hand. So I don’t play those. Mario Kart online is fun I just wish Switch had god damn voice chat. I’d love to throw down in races with everyone from here and $RK again though. Oh, and I ran missions in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 with @M A R T I A Nbut it was only a small handful of times. Like I said, I 100% get why people love online gaming and I don’t look down on them or begrudge it. I just don’t like it or find it necessary to enjoy games. I attribute it to growing up in so many communities that required a lot of local interaction for them to be successful. (FGC, Lan Centers, Hobby Shops, DND campaigns, etc) . Also being the community manager for the hobby store I worked at made me even more adamant about it. Edited January 26 by iStu X Chadouken 1 Quote Link to post
Sonichuman 1623 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Online gaming with strangers has gotten far more toxic over the years with varying levels depending on the game and the mode. When Xbox live was really hitting its stride on 360 at first talking to people online could still be potentially be fun. Now people are trying too damn hard in non competitive shit like Among Us. Among Us chat with randos has been a literal coin flip on whether you get a decent group to play with to the point I don't even bother anymore. I just play with just the one group now. KingTubb and Hawkingbird 2 Quote Link to post
Sonichuman 1623 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Speaking of MK8, Infernoman expressed wanting to get people to play again and I'm down for that. Might be something I can actually attempt to play while my demon spawn is wrecking havoc. Chadouken, TheInfernoman, DoctaMario and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post
iStu X 3477 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, Sonichuman said: Speaking of MK8, Infernoman expressed wanting to get people to play again and I'm down for that. Might be something I can actually attempt to play while my demon spawn is wrecking havoc. I’d be down KingTubb and Sonichuman 2 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 18 minutes ago, iStu X said: I just wish Switch had god damn voice chat. Yeah, having to run a discord on the side sucks butt Quote Link to post
Sonichuman 1623 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Vids Spoiler Hawkingbird and Chadouken 2 Quote Link to post
Illwill88 404 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I definitely find myself only wanting to play games with a online component lately. The only single player games that have been able to hold my attention recently are hades and GOW. Quote Link to post
Sonichuman 1623 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Hitman devs James Bond game will not be based on any prior actor https://www.ign.com/articles/hitman-developers-james-bond-wont-be-based-on-any-previous-actor kinda weird but ok RSG3 and DangerousJ 1 1 Quote Link to post
iStu X 3477 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Sonichuman said: Vids Ghosts n’ Goblins Resurrection being $30 is about what I expected. Was hoping more $15-20 range but $30 is still a fair asking price imo. It looks like they packed a lot of new content into it Chadouken and RSG3 2 Quote Link to post
RSG3 1859 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Just now, Sonichuman said: Hitman devs James Bond game will not be based on any prior actor https://www.ign.com/articles/hitman-developers-james-bond-wont-be-based-on-any-previous-actor kinda weird but ok Probably gives them a good deal more freedom, and it let's them fuck under paying likeness royalties. RegH81, KingTubb, Wellman and 4 others 7 Quote Link to post
Sonichuman 1623 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 10 minutes ago, RSG3 said: Probably gives them a good deal more freedom, and it let's them fuck under paying likeness royalties. I don't have any doubt on that. Just curious as to how this non actor James Bond is going to look. RSG3 and KingTubb 2 Quote Link to post
Darc_Requiem 6819 Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 (edited) 7 hours ago, DoctaMario said: I don't know why they still crow about shipments like all those copies shipped have actually been sold. They used to do that crap in the music industry too to make it sound like an album had sold a ton of copies from the outset when in reality they were just sitting in record store stockrooms. Once they've shipped, they have their money. In gaming at least, there typically isn't a buyback program. It's why stores usually get so few units besides pre-orders. Edited January 26 by Darc_Requiem RSG3, Hawkingbird and KingTubb 2 1 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sonichuman said: Just curious as to how this non actor James Bond is going to look. Maybe they'll go off of Flemming's description, who said he looked like Hoadgy Carmichael But with "something a bit cruel in the mouth, and the eyes were cold" and he also had a pretty big scar on his face. Or they'll model him after Mr. T. Fuck it, they can do whatever they want. Bond's character is defined by his actions imho, not his appearance. Edited January 26 by KingTubb DangerousJ and DoctaMario 1 1 Quote Link to post
RSG3 1859 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Race flipping Bond would cause more trouble then it's worth. Abbachio, Darc_Requiem, TheInfernoman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to post
Darc_Requiem 6819 Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, RSG3 said: Race flipping Bond would cause more trouble then it's worth. And its lazy as fuck. Abbachio, RSG3, KingTubb and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Maybe they'll model him after the voice actor and let him do the face capture stuff Death Stranding style Quote Link to post
Angel 1642 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Yomiko Readman > james pond Wellman 1 Quote Link to post
Hawkingbird 2093 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I want to see a race flip Bond just to see how the world burns. KingTubb and Angel 1 1 Quote Link to post
KingTubb 3112 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 8 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: I want to see a race flip Bond just to see how the world burns. Gender swap too. Get everybody real mad Angel 1 Quote Link to post
Darc_Requiem 6819 Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 54 minutes ago, Angel said: Yomiko Readman > james pond Why gotta disrespect a classic fam. Angel, DoctaMario, RSG3 and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to post
Angel 1642 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 New james bond need to look like this lol Quote Link to post
RSG3 1859 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Isn't that an actual Bond Girl? DangerousJ 1 Quote Link to post
DangerousJ 3641 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 She was the henchwoman to Christopher Walken's villain in A view to a kill (1985). RSG3, DoctaMario, Angel and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post
Angel 1642 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Oh snap persona 5 arena!!! https://www.facebook.com/groups/fgcsaltposting/permalink/698693820803614/ Quote Link to post
Hawkingbird 2093 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 hours ago, Sonichuman said: Vids Reveal hidden contents The Werewolf game is looking ok. Not a fan how the hits seem to lack impact in the trailer. The combat reminds me of the Afro Samurai game and Spatterhouse remake. Quote Link to post
misterBee 3198 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I wonder if it's time to get back into gacha again. P5 crossover for Dragalia just announced: https://dragalialost.com/en/event/persona/ Quote Link to post
TheInfernoman 1434 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 10 hours ago, AriesWarlock said: @Sonero Bruv I'm probably the only here now who still plays MTG lol. While waiting on Diablo 4 to drop, this looks interesting...but I am hesitant as anything not related to the actual card game meta has been meh to bad. I will keep an eye on this AriesWarlock 1 Quote Link to post
Wellman 185 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 3 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said: Why gotta disrespect a classic fam. Naw, Yumiko is fucking awesome ain't no disrespect not matching girl with the ability to make paper manipulation awesome and badass. Angel 1 Quote Link to post
Darc_Requiem 6819 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, Wellman said: Naw, Yumiko is fucking awesome ain't no disrespect not matching girl with the ability to make paper manipulation awesome and badass. Angel and TheInfernoman 2 Quote Link to post
Sonichuman 1623 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Only announced for Japan right now Extra Edited January 27 by Sonichuman Quote Link to post
Darc_Requiem 6819 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 I'm sure this is old news to some of you but I found this interesting. The work this guy has done on this project is impressive. There are English subtitles. My spanish is....piss poor to say the least. KingTubb and AriesWarlock 1 1 Quote Link to post
Hecatom 1917 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 14 hours ago, DoctaMario said: I don't know why they still crow about shipments like all those copies shipped have actually been sold. They used to do that crap in the music industry too to make it sound like an album had sold a ton of copies from the outset when in reality they were just sitting in record store stockrooms. Made even worse when you consider that unsold shipped units could end costing the publishers money depending on the sales issurance policies that the retailers have in agreement with the publisher, lol. DoctaMario 1 Quote Link to post
Hecatom 1917 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 12 hours ago, Hawkingbird said: Shipped copies are sales. Sales to retailers. Shipped units show how much demand their is for the product. Nah, not really. Shipped units are based on estimates/projections that publishers have and expect the game to sell. You can have scenarios where the game had 2 million units shipped, but the game is not selling at all due issues with it, or because it was not received as the devs expected. For example Anthem had a lot of units shipped that were never sold and had to be bought back by EA because of it. Or DmC, who capcom expected to ship 2 million units, had to slash the numbers to 1.2 million when it was clear the game wasnt selling and in the end only sold like 600k units across 3 platforms, forcing Capcom to retrive back the unsold stock. Shipped units can be a measure for interest, but that is only true when the game has been out for a while and the initial shipment was already sold, but even then, is still projections on how much they expect to sell. DoctaMario and DangerousJ 1 1 Quote Link to post
Darc_Requiem 6819 Posted January 27 Author Share Posted January 27 (edited) @HecatomDepends on the company. Nintendo isn't buying back a damn thing for example. However their titles usually sell at full price for several years, so retailers don't mind it. Although early 80s Nintendo had a very generous buy back policy due to the video game crash that preceded the NES' launch. Edited January 27 by Darc_Requiem KingTubb and Hecatom 2 Quote Link to post
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