YagamiFire Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 JP is proving himself to be a straight-up pimp. Dude has swagger & style in spades. BootyWarrior, BornWinner, Doctrine_Dark and 5 others 6 2 Quote
Tatsuroko Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 JP has me interested. I'm still recovering from how they (mis)treated Necalli and skipped over G's arc in V, but JP does seemingly bring a new flavor to the established SF boss crew. You better stay away from him, not because he's gonna destroy/enslave/absorb you. You're just wasting his time, period. I'd lose it if his win-quote to Ryu was something with sinister subtext like "Thank you for your cooperation." (in bringing down Bison and setting up the scene for me) Now I'm imagining how he and Remy (or even V Nash had he been alive) would get along. ShockDingo, ToreyBeans, Doctrine_Dark and 1 other 4 Quote
CESTUS III Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Tatsuroko said: JP has me interested. I'm still recovering from how they (mis)treated Necalli and skipped over G's arc in V, but JP does seemingly bring a new flavor to the established SF boss crew. You better stay away from him, not because he's gonna destroy/enslave/absorb you. You're just wasting his time, period. I want to be optimistic Capcom this time will finally get free from their own mental chains where new stuff have to be subservient to old time villains It's since Gill (1997) we don't get a new Boss/Villain designed with true ambition Necalli could have been great, background wise being SF's pillar man had the street creds to be the most evil, ancient and menacing threat SF good guys ever had to face... we know how miserably it ended due Capcom lacking the balls to go all-in lmao 🥲 I want to believe in JP But fact fucking Ken is going to beat his ass, WHILE COOL AF FOR KEN, it's already a sign we are unlikely to remember him too close to food chain top, unless they write it VERY well Tatsuroko 1 Quote
Daemos Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, CESTUS III said: Necalli could have been great, background wise being SF's pillar man had the street creds to be the most evil, ancient and menacing threat SF good guys ever had to face... we know how miserably it ended due Capcom lacking the balls to go all-in lmao 🥲 But how much of this was fans projecting onto Capcom what they want from Necalli because of his aesthetic? At no point did Capcom say that Necalli was meant to be the boss of SF5 or that he was meant to be some top dog villain. The only thing I remember of the like before release is Capcom wanted to recapture the energy Akuma character design had during ST in a new character, likely because Akuma was not in the base game (they did in a way). Now let's bring it back to the present... Did Capcom say JP is the final boss or a boss of any kind? No. Did they even say that he is the antagonist? No. But I already see fan arts of JP joining the SF boss crew. Absolutely ridiculous. What happens if next month JP is revealed to just be another villain like Necalli instead of a big boss? Is it the fan's fault or Capcom? I think people need to reel in their expectations. Capcom is not responsible for not living up to our imagination. Edited May 3, 2023 by Daemos Quote
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Tatsuroko Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Daemos said: But how much of this was fans projecting onto Capcom what they want from Necalli because of his aesthetic? At no point did Capcom say that Necalli was meant to be the boss of SF5 or that he was meant to be some top dog villain. Thing is, Nakayama himself admitted he was not a perfect villain. Clearly they had more plans, but the character didn't focus-test well and they were forced to scale back the ambitions (or they were just lazy to make a proper boss battle, rather than simply have Bison with an activated V-Trigger). It's their job to keep track of their fanbase's imagination, especially now when the management appears to be trying to be as transparent with their plans as possible. Edited May 3, 2023 by Tatsuroko ShockDingo 1 Quote
Daemos Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Tatsuroko said: Thing is, Nakayama himself admitted he was not a perfect villain. Clearly they had more plans, but the character didn't focus-test well and they were forced to scale back the ambitions (or they were just lazy to make a proper boss battle, rather than just have Bison with an activated V-Trigger). He was the outlying villain, meaning he was not the central villain. I don't see how they "clearly" had more more plans but the character didn't "focus test well". Where are you getting this information as it isn't in that link you mentioned. Quote
Tatsuroko Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Daemos said: He was the outlying villain, meaning he was not the central villain. Clearly he meant Nec turned out to be the outlying villain in the final product. Doesn't necessarily imply he was meant to be that way all along, and the "not perfect" bit indicates that. Quote
Darc_Requiem Posted May 3, 2023 Author Posted May 3, 2023 10 hours ago, YagamiFire said: JP is proving himself to be a straight-up pimp. Dude has swagger & style in spades. Of course, you know JP stands for Just Pimpin right? 😉 YagamiFire, bakfromon, Doctrine_Dark and 1 other 1 3 Quote
bakfromon Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) Necalli was literally just a place holder for Akuma. His story relevance was literally only for Ryu to be pushed beyond SnH, discover Fist of Wind and MnK, and to be beaten by Ryu. That should have been something Akuma represents and it makes more sense from the overall narrative. The only problem is that Akuma is basically Capcom's cash cow and they love to milk the fans for his presence in the game. So instead of just including Akuma in the main cast or first set of DLC they held him off and introduced Necalli to take his place. Edited May 3, 2023 by bakfromon Hawkingbird, Doctrine_Dark, Daemos and 1 other 4 Quote
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