The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

[Tatsuroko]

26 minutes ago, Daemos said:

But how much of this was fans projecting onto Capcom what they want from Necalli because of his aesthetic? At no point did Capcom say that Necalli was meant to be the boss of SF5 or that he was meant to be some top dog villain.

Thing is, Nakayama himself admitted he was not a perfect villain. Clearly they had more plans, but the character didn't focus-test well and they were forced to scale back the ambitions (or they were just lazy to make a proper boss battle, rather than simply have Bison with an activated V-Trigger).

It's their job to keep track of their fanbase's imagination, especially now when the management appears to be trying to be as transparent with their plans as possible.
 

Edited May 3, 2023 by Tatsuroko

[Daemos]

10 minutes ago, Tatsuroko said:

Thing is, Nakayama himself admitted he was not a perfect villain. Clearly they had more plans, but the character didn't focus-test well and they were forced to scale back the ambitions (or they were just lazy to make a proper boss battle, rather than just have Bison with an activated V-Trigger).

He was the outlying villain, meaning he was not the central villain.

 

I don't see how they "clearly" had more more plans but the character didn't "focus test well". Where are you getting this information as it isn't in that link you mentioned.

[Tatsuroko]

4 minutes ago, Daemos said:

He was the outlying villain, meaning he was not the central villain.

Clearly he meant Nec turned out to be the outlying villain in the final product. Doesn't necessarily imply he was meant to be that way all along, and the "not perfect" bit indicates that.

[Darc_Requiem]

10 hours ago, YagamiFire said:

JP is proving himself to be a straight-up pimp. Dude has swagger & style in spades.

Of course, you know JP stands for Just Pimpin right? 😉

[bakfromon]

Necalli was literally just a place holder for Akuma. His story relevance was literally only for Ryu to be pushed beyond SnH, discover Fist of Wind and MnK, and to be beaten by Ryu. That should have been something Akuma represents and it makes more sense from the overall narrative. The only problem is that Akuma is basically Capcom's cash cow and they love to milk the fans for his presence in the game. So instead of just including Akuma in the main cast or first set of DLC they held him off and introduced Necalli to take his place. 

Edited May 3, 2023 by bakfromon

[ShockDingo]

Necalli frustrates me so much, I wanted more, but now, I'm just hoping for a quiet retcon or him never really being referenced again.

[Darc_Requiem]

4 hours ago, Daemos said:

But how much of this was fans projecting onto Capcom what they want from Necalli because of his aesthetic?

Necalli literally has the five, V, from the SFV logo on his face. The intro cinematic, which only shows the first time you booted the game for some reason, closes out on Necalli before fading to the title screen. Not mention how they initially said Necalli's character was going to be like. The stuttering animalistic Necalli was supposed to fade away in his true, V-Trigger form, in which Necalli was supposed to be a genius. They completely dropped that aspect and left him a blubbering, brain dead, savage. Capcom's handling of Necalli is one their biggest Street Fighter Ls.

Edited May 3, 2023 by Darc_Requiem

[Daemos]

50 minutes ago, bakfromon said:

Necalli was literally just a place holder for Akuma. His story relevance was literally only for Ryu to be pushed beyond SnH, discover Fist of Wind and MnK, and to be beaten by Ryu. That should have been something Akuma represents and it makes more sense from the overall narrative. The only problem is that Akuma is basically Capcom's cash cow and they love to milk the fans for his presence in the game. So instead of just including Akuma in the main cast or first set of DLC they held him off and introduced Necalli to take his place. 

This.

 

They literally took Akuma’s killing intent shtick and applied to another culture/time. What if Akuma was an Aztec/Mayan? You get Necalli.

 

Literally same plot function as well. 
 

I don’t want the point I was making to get lost though. Keep your expectations of JP in check and focus on the facts from Capcom.

[Doctrine_Dark]

JP's win outro already shattered my expectations.

 

Aside from that, I love his design and the way he fights.

 

I couldn't be happier with the character.

[bakfromon]

27 minutes ago, Daemos said:

This.

 

They literally took Akuma’s killing intent shtick and applied to another culture/time. What if Akuma was an Aztec/Mayan? You get Necalli.

 

Literally same plot function as well. 
 

I don’t want the point I was making to get lost though. Keep your expectations of JP in check and focus on the facts from Capcom.

The difference about JP is there's already more substance to his character than Necalli and he's still shrouded in mystery. He has a backstory with main characters like Ken and presumably Bison. Necalli had no backstory with any main characters he just appeared out of nowhere and brought his own story. 

Is JP an evil boss character? It sure seems that way but everything is still a mystery. Even his win quotes so far don't really show any red flags. If anything we know he literally doesn't like to get his hands dirty so his whole evil persona maybe something his character keeps under wraps. Instead he goes for a  calmer more sophisticated approach until he's pushed to his limit and then he's calling people cretins while choke slamming them implanting Psycho Power bombs in their chest and crucifying them on pillars of spikes