The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

[bakfromon]

27 minutes ago, Daemos said:

This.

 

They literally took Akuma’s killing intent shtick and applied to another culture/time. What if Akuma was an Aztec/Mayan? You get Necalli.

 

Literally same plot function as well. 
 

I don’t want the point I was making to get lost though. Keep your expectations of JP in check and focus on the facts from Capcom.

The difference about JP is there's already more substance to his character than Necalli and he's still shrouded in mystery. He has a backstory with main characters like Ken and presumably Bison. Necalli had no backstory with any main characters he just appeared out of nowhere and brought his own story. 

Is JP an evil boss character? It sure seems that way but everything is still a mystery. Even his win quotes so far don't really show any red flags. If anything we know he literally doesn't like to get his hands dirty so his whole evil persona maybe something his character keeps under wraps. Instead he goes for a  calmer more sophisticated approach until he's pushed to his limit and then he's calling people cretins while choke slamming them implanting Psycho Power bombs in their chest and crucifying them on pillars of spikes

[Daemos]

I'm just saying we don't know that he is the proverbial boss of SF6. Capcom have no confirmed anything of the sort, and a lot of people here but especially on twitter have already decided for Capcom what JP is before release (just like Necalli).

 

[Chun-Li_Forever]

 

Manon to Chun-Li: Kung Fu means "hard work" yes? Concealing my effort is part of how I do things.

 

Thoughts: Nothing too big, although I do love the comparison of Manon's ballet to Chun's kung fu. Both not only require a tremendous amount of grace, but all the movements must look effortless to further extenuate that beauty. 

 

[Miðgarðsorm]

 

This is FANTASTIC.

The first Honda winpose references the 手刀 tegatana, the hand gestures that the winner in a sumō match makes when he wins and accepts the prize for the winner from the referee. Usually there are three strokes, but some wrestlers choose to draw the character 心 kokoro "heart, spirit" in the air, as Honda does here. Also, the custom is to perform the gesture with the right hand, but some wrestlers (most notably the first Mongolian yokozuna Asashōryū, so it could be a direct reference to him) do it with the left hand.

The second winpose references the rare and spectacular instance of a 金星 kinboshi ("gold star")¹, that's to say when a maegashira wrestler (aka one of the lower-ranked wrestlers in the upper division) manages to beat a yokozuna: when such an unexpected victory happens, the audience starts to throw their 座布団 zabuton (cushions) all over the place, both to mock the losing champ and to praise the victorious underdog; although it's an action discouraged by the Japanese Sumō Association, the custom of the 座布団の舞 zabuton no mai ("the dance of cushions") persists. We can see Honda had very low health, so his loss was very likely... That's PERFECT.

You can find various examples of a kinboshi on Youtube. Below is the match between the yokozuna Harumafuji and the maegashira Shōhōzan, who unexpectedly wins against the more expert champion and even starts to cry when he realises what he managed to accomplish:

You can hear the announcer shouting 危険ですから座布団投げないでください Kiken desu kara zabuton wo nagenaide kudasai, "Please do not throw cushions around, it's dangerous", to absolutely no effect lol.

Here's Hakuhō (yokozuna) against Okinoumi (maegashira):

 

 

 

 

¹ Normally, in sumō a victory is marked with a ☆ 白星 shiroboshi ("white star") and a loss with a ★ 黒星 kuroboshi ("black star"), so a gold star marks a very special victory.

Edited May 3, 2023 by Miðgarðsorm

[Daemos]

Only in Street Fighter would cushions being thrown on-screen for a winpose would not only make sense, but it would be genius.

[DarthEnderX]

5 hours ago, Tatsuroko said:

JP has me interested. I'm still recovering from how they (mis)treated Necalli and skipped over G's arc in V, but JP does seemingly bring a new flavor to the established SF boss crew.

JP honestly feels like "We're doing G again, but better this time".

3 hours ago, bakfromon said:

The only problem is that Akuma is basically Capcom's cash cow and they love to milk the fans for his presence in the game. So instead of just including Akuma in the main cast or first set of DLC they held him off and introduced Necalli to take his place. 

You think they created an entirely new character, just to be a placeholder for Akuma, instead of just...making Akuma S1 DLC(who were all in story mode)?  Okay then...

1 hour ago, Daemos said:

I'm just saying we don't know that he is the proverbial boss of SF6. 

We know what you're just saying.  It's the same thing you're always saying.  "Bison is the only real SF boss!"

 

Edited May 3, 2023 by DarthEnderX

[Dragonfave723]

Lily to Zangief: I could hear your footsteps coming from two mountains over. You're strong - like a bear! 

[Daemos]

3 hours ago, Tatsuroko said:

Clearly he meant Nec turned out to be the outlying villain in the final product. Doesn't necessarily imply he was meant to be that way all along, and the "not perfect" bit indicates that.

Nothing clear about that. Necalli was always meant to be the outlying villain and that is what happened.  
 

Everything you’re pointing to is just wishful. Capcom admitting that they mishandled Necalli isn’t evidence for him being the main villain. Necalli was a jobber from the beginning. Even in future character stories like Akuma and Boxer he remained a jobber.

 

16 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

We know what you're just saying.  It's the same thing you're always saying.  "Bison is the only real SF boss!"

I’m not saying that. Capcom are.

Even now the stories of many characters in SF6 are only possible through Bison’s legacy. His appearance and his absence both have more impact on characters than any other in SF.

 

G is the only boss character I can respect because at least he tried to stand on his own platform and achievements.
 

All other bosses, including Akuma, Gill and JP tried to establish themselves on the shoulders of Bison. Only Akuma succeeded in becoming something truly great and popular.

 

 

[CESTUS III]

52 minutes ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

 

Manon to Chun-Li: Kung Fu means "hard work" yes? Concealing my effort is part of how I do things.

 

Thoughts: Nothing too big, although I do love the comparison of Manon's ballet to Chun's kung fu. Both not only require a tremendous amount of grace, but all the movements must look effortless to further extenuate that beauty. 

 

 

I think it's different, it's not the ballet she's talking about

 

Manon uses ballet to conceal her incredible JUDO skill

 

Her whole gimmick is that her JUDO is so stellar that she can use momentum and leverage to throw people so effortlessly to the point she can do it while mask it as a ballet, doing herself dance-like movements rather than orthodox judo ones and even make her her opponent fly/fall taking the positions she prefer

 

 

In Judo the better your technique is (and how superior you are to your opponent) the more your throw will look without any strenght effort, will be fluid and elegant

She bring it to the next level being able to do it so easily that she can conceal it behind a "ballet" appearance

 

One cool thing is in her normal Lv3 she end everything with an actual Judo throw

But when she does the Lv3 ultimate version  she keeps till the end the ballet farce (even singing), showing basically the apex of her technique

 

[Chun-Li_Forever]

@CESTUS IIIOooh, great points. Never thought of it that way before. 🙂