Daemos Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, Dracu said: Guess the engine didn't support it though, cause he never got this even as an alternate. This is the closest we got. Capcom gave it to him in SF5 though. But yes I agree with what you said. Dracu and CESTUS III 2 Quote
DarthEnderX Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Daemos said: Necalli failed on so many fronts and it had nothing to do with "he was a jobber instead of main villain". The entire plot of the character revolved around him sleeping for hundreds or thousands of years, then appearing for a short period just to eat everyone strong then go back to sleep. Chances are we will never see him again with a plot like that, but that was already planned from the start. Well, yeah. Necalli was fucked the moment they decided to make him an alien blob. Everything after that was irrelevant because they already fucked him up beyond recovery. 9 hours ago, Daemos said: I thought Necalli was going to be Bison's next host body when he was introduced and that it was all part of the plan. And I thought the opposite. That Necalli was going to eat Bison and get his big permanent powerup from that. Edited May 4, 2023 by DarthEnderX Dracu 1 Quote
Daemos Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 There's nothing inherently wrong with being an undead amoeba. it's just the execution and delivery were piss poor. DarthEnderX 1 Quote
DarthEnderX Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Daemos said: There's nothing inherently wrong with being an undead amoeba. The HARDEST of disagrees. Quote
Daemos Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) So you're fine with him going permanently full amoeba on one of the most iconic characters in fighting games, but you disagree "hardest" with the very premise of being an amoeba. You realize this is the same series that gave you: 1- Green Jungle Ape Monster 2- An Indian Mr. Fantastic with the skulls of children around his neck 3- An evil immortal psychic Nazi-esque dictator 4- Whatever the fuck Twelve and Necro were. 5- A spiritual plane manifestation of the dark side of a character's psyche. 6- A centuries old master who fights while holding a TURTLE 7- Alien Bichromatic Jesus and his eugenicist brother 9- Half a dozen clones clones, male and female, some turned into Cyborgs. 10- The bastard child of Abraham Lincoln and Captain Planet. A shapeshifting blob-spirit is where you draw the line? Edited May 4, 2023 by Daemos Quote
CESTUS III Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Daemos said: I believe the SF developers do their best at the time. They are fans of the series, and they work with what they know. Things are either going to click or they won't. and yet going by your own words 1 hour ago, Daemos said: it's just the execution and delivery were piss poor. Guess we can finally agree capcom did a crapjob on Necalli (+ some others) and that if you do a crapjob at devealop a character you may cripple said character chances to have success, regardless if he's a good concept or not? Because that was whole point Quote
Daemos Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) When it comes to Necalli, I believe the devs were trying to make an outlying villain who is like Akuma but functionally a jobber. So in that respect, the delivery was piss poor and left much to be desired. You want Necalli to be a main villain that supplants Bison, but that was never in the cards is what I argued based on what is known from the devs. I can agree with you that Necalli final package is shit without agreeing with your proposed direction for the character which deviates from what the devs intended. Edited May 4, 2023 by Daemos Quote
Hawkingbird Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Daemos said: When it comes to Necalli, I believe the devs were trying to make an outlying villain who is like Akuma but functionally a jobber. I don't. Capcom went hard into the marketing of Necalli during season 1 for that to be true bakfromon and DarthEnderX 2 Quote
YagamiFire Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 8 hours ago, CESTUS III said: Some SF3 wierdness POV you remember Remy exist but make the gif short because nobody will riot over Remy anyway This is great! Remy was the second created character I made. The first was K' CESTUS III 1 Quote
YagamiFire Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 3 hours ago, DarthEnderX said: Well, yeah. Necalli was fucked the moment they decided to make him an alien blob. Everything after that was irrelevant because they already fucked him up beyond recovery. Necalli should have been petrified like a stone statue or something and reawakened...and he should have absorbed chi (like in his V-trigger Super), leaving people lifeless husks to feed himself. Not Majin Buu nonsense. It could have even been that the civilization he was from previous sacrificed people to him. The blob stuff is dumb. Darc_Requiem 1 Quote
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