Seth Vega Posted October 22, 2021 Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 4:11 PM, Vhozite said: I’ve reading up on the GR86/BRZ a lot. Like you said it’s not fast but the refresh does have a new engine with slightly more hp and (iirc) a better torque or some shit. Saw a YT video (I’ll link if I can find it) where they raced a 2022 GR86, a last gen 86, S2000, and a Miata and the 2022 GR86 won pretty cleanly. It’s still not fast like a Mustang or whatever, but it’s definitely more responsive than before. Not sure where it lands top speed wise but realistically it’s uncommon for me to break 100mph on the road so I’m not pressed over it. Really I like it for its low weight, handling, and styling. I’ve never driven one but supposedly it handles like a dream with its low weight and CoG. Truth be told I don’t need something much faster than my current 06 Forester, but I would definitely love something a bit snappier on the curves. Edit: That said, my main targets are still a Mustang GT or Camaro SS Yes, the 86 is a very capable performance car especially the newer model. It's very balanced. I think it has 230hp and 230 torque. The new 86 is better all around compared to the older model. Mustang GT and Camaro SS are also well rounded cars that pretty much have everything I want, but they are heavy. You seemed to be a performance minded person when it comes to cars. I am the same way. Vhozite 1 Quote
Vhozite Posted October 22, 2021 Author Posted October 22, 2021 40 minutes ago, Seth Vega said: You seemed to be a performance minded person when it comes to cars. I am the same way. Yeah I’m not a car snob or anything, but in the last year or so my priorities have changed. Before when I was driving 5 minutes to work I just wanted something to get me there and didn’t really care about much else. Now I commute 30+ miles each way and spend over an hour on the road driving each day. Realized quickly what’s important to me in a car. 1. Looks 2. Performance 3. Bluetooth Radio 4. Working HVAC Don’t really care about much else. I can count on my hands the number of times I’ve had more than one passenger or actually used the big amount of space my car has. Interior quality IMO doesn’t really matter. I the important bits are between the pedal and the steering wheel. Seth Vega 1 Quote
Seth Vega Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Vhozite said: Yeah I’m not a car snob or anything, but in the last year or so my priorities have changed. Before when I was driving 5 minutes to work I just wanted something to get me there and didn’t really care about much else. Now I commute 30+ miles each way and spend over an hour on the road driving each day. Realized quickly what’s important to me in a car. 1. Looks 2. Performance 3. Bluetooth Radio 4. Working HVAC Don’t really care about much else. I can count on my hands the number of times I’ve had more than one passenger or actually used the big amount of space my car has. Interior quality IMO doesn’t really matter. I the important bits are between the pedal and the steering wheel. I'm not a car snob as well, I just enjoy them. I mainly care about performance, the quality of the performance parts, looks, a working HVAC, and a good enough stereo system. I don't really care much about luxury. Interior quality doesn't need to be luxury level for me; it just needs to be good enough. I don't want anything on the car that is excess weight. I view cars like a refined weapon that is mainly focused on going as fast as a possible. Hard mechanical parts should be good to top quality; important parts should be good to top quality. Even though I like the current Mustang GT and Camaro SS, they became less good looking. The overall redesign of the Camaro SS looks terrible and the new front end of the Mustang GT looks pretty bad, too. It's like they tried to make it look better, but failed, or they actually made them worse looking on purpose. The actual cars I actually had were a 1998 Honda Civic EX 4 Door, the first Mazda 3, 2001 Honda Civic Coupe, and a 1990 Mitsubishi Galant GS. All of them handled well enough especially the Galant. Yes, they are all front wheel drive. I don't really like front wheel drive much since they perform the worst in general. The only time I drove a RWD vehicle was when I drove a 2007 Toyota TRD Tacoma. It felt like it handled better than the lighter and front heavy FWD cars I had due to better weight distribution and the placement of the drive wheels. With FWD cars, too much work is being done by the front wheels which causes them to not stop as well, to not accelerate as well, and to not turn as well as RWD and AWD. FWD has the least amount of grip. I feel that FWD should be used for light weight cars so that they can perform as best as possible. FWD performance really goes down when the weight increases and among the drivetrains it's the set up that is the most affected for the worse when weight increases. Edited October 23, 2021 by Seth Vega Vhozite 1 Quote
Vhozite Posted October 24, 2021 Author Posted October 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Seth Vega said: I'm not a car snob as well, I just enjoy them. I mainly care about performance, the quality of the performance parts, looks, a working HVAC, and a good enough stereo system. I don't really care much about luxury. Interior quality doesn't need to be luxury level for me; it just needs to be good enough. I don't want anything on the car that is excess weight. I view cars like a refined weapon that is mainly focused on going as fast as a possible. Hard mechanical parts should be good to top quality; important parts should be good to top quality. Even though I like the current Mustang GT and Camaro SS, they became less good looking. The overall redesign of the Camaro SS looks terrible and the new front end of the Mustang GT looks pretty bad, too. It's like they tried to make it look better, but failed, or they actually made them worse looking on purpose. The actual cars I actually had were a 1998 Honda Civic EX 4 Door, the first Mazda 3, 2001 Honda Civic Coupe, and a 1990 Mitsubishi Galant GS. All of them handled well enough especially the Galant. Yes, they are all front wheel drive. I don't really like front wheel drive much since they perform the worst in general. The only time I drove a RWD vehicle was when I drove a 2007 Toyota TRD Tacoma. It felt like it handled better than the lighter and front heavy FWD cars I had due to better weight distribution and the placement of the drive wheels. With FWD cars, too much work is being done by the front wheels which causes them to not stop as well, to not accelerate as well, and to not turn as well as RWD and AWD. FWD has the least amount of grip. I feel that FWD should be used for light weight cars so that they can perform as best as possible. FWD performance really goes down when the weight increases and among the drivetrains it's the set up that is the most affected for the worse when weight increases. Yeah luxury interiors are pretty much pointless to me, and I’ve been in some nice cars. My grandmother has an E-Class Benz, my dad has driven luxury cars (BMW, Acura, Lexus) for like 75% of my life, and I’ve spent entire workdays riding shotgun in my bosses Maserati SUV. I can assure you after the first hour of “wow this is nice”, that shit is all the same. Maybe it changes when you get into supercar/Bentley money, but so far every car interior has still been a car interior lol. The jury is still out on the new Camaro for me, but the current Mustang is by far the worst post-2000 look for the model. The 6th gen refresh (2015-present) was going on the wrong direction but still good, but now the car just looks like it’s face is melting. It looks like a damn Ford Fusion with an aftermarket body kit from the front now. Ive driven I think 3 FWD cars and while they weren’t explicitly terrible I can’t say I enjoyed any of them. I always accidentally spin the wheels on them, and I feel like they don’t turn great. Quote
OPTIMUS124 Posted October 27, 2021 Posted October 27, 2021 I swear that whine never gets old. The J-Turn through the tire smoke . . . Darc_Requiem and Vhozite 2 Quote
OPTIMUS124 Posted October 29, 2021 Posted October 29, 2021 Spotted in one of my FB Car groups 🤣. Do any of you care about upbadging? It's a sin in the car community 😂. Vhozite 1 Quote
Darc_Requiem Posted October 29, 2021 Posted October 29, 2021 @DangerousJIt's something we always clowned but I'm not sure what the current view is. Also this C8 ZO6 is fucking ridiculous. a 5.5L 670hp naturally aspirated V8 with 8600rpm redline 😱 Vhozite and DangerousJ 2 Quote
DangerousJ Posted October 29, 2021 Posted October 29, 2021 Cool video. I'm not really interested in cars that much. I drive a 4 cylinder that gets me to places 5 miles and back safely. 2003 Toyota Matrix with 95k miles and some scratches boi!! Not pretty but functional- Starscream DoctaMario 1 Quote
Vhozite Posted October 29, 2021 Author Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, OPTIMUS124 said: Do any of you care about upbadging? It's a sin in the car community 😂. I think upbadging like this as a joke is funny. But other than that I literally do no get the point...you’re just asking to be clowned. That said, I’m much more open to body mods from higher trims. Face swaps like say a GT500 on a regular GT Mustang doesn’t bother me, but I know some people also consider that upbadging. Quote
Vhozite Posted October 29, 2021 Author Posted October 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Darc_Requiem said: @DangerousJIt's something we always clowned but I'm not sure what the current view is. Also this C8 ZO6 is fucking ridiculous. a 5.5L 670hp naturally aspirated V8 with 8600rpm redline 😱 Gonna be honest that V8 is super impressive but I don’t like the direction they’re taking with the Vette aesthetically. I hate to sound elitist but it’s looking more and more like every other Euro exotic instead of a Corvette. Quote
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