The Guilty Gear general: Getting Wildly Assaulted in the Keyhole

[Vhozite]

That’s a pretty good way of putting it. Sometimes the damage feels really high but then I’ve had other times where I have combos doing no damage because they are getting brutalized by scaling. With Nago I try to find combos that use PRC instead of RRC because it makes a noticeable difference with damage scaling. Stuff like command grab RRC conversions give you like 2 hits before you are doing 1 damage per attack lol. 
 

I will say that I’m not a big fan of this counterhit system with the enormous slowdowns. Not sure what started or necessitated this trend but this is the 3rd game in a row I’ve invested a good amount of time into (SFV, MK11, GGS)  where games have to draw a huge amount of attention to counter hits to give you the world’s easiest confirm into big damage. My boomer-style opinion on it is that it’s dumbing down neutral and (for me) making it less enjoyable.

[Sonero]

 

 

[Pair of Rooks]

13 hours ago, Sonero said:

 

 

Narrator: "But he wasn't sorry, not one little bit." 

 

[Sonero]

They really, really, really need to zoom the camera out in this game. Makes it so hard to keep track of your character when people are jumping.

[Vhozite]

I’ve warmed up a tiny bit to proximity normals since playing Strive since cS/fS gives me the button I want 90% of the time. However I still would vastly prefer it be an input choice than the game deciding when I can use my cS. 

[Sonero]

I'm fine with proximity normals in general. I really wish that Gio's was a better anti air though. Hate seeing that thing activate and then just whiff.

 

It'll whiff people in front of her too.

 

😭

[Vhozite]

So I need to ask…what would you guys consider Nago’s best special?
 

Twice over the weekend I’ve seen people claim it was his command grab and…I disagree lol.

[Sonero]

5 hours ago, Vhozite said:

So I need to ask…what would you guys consider Nago’s best special?

 

Beyblade and back teleport.

 

He can basically play whole ass matches only using those two specials and normals. Hell he can anti air with beyblade. That move can go suck a tailpipe.

 

😠

[BornWinner]

I agree with Beyblade. It’s like the Swiss Army knife of specials. It starts combos, skips neutral, safe on block, crushes lows and can anti-air for some reason. Besides the blood you get for using it, there is only a reward for throwing it out.

[Pair of Rooks]

How is it anything except beyblade?  Especially since the rekka buff to blood gauge stole the command grab's job like a brown-skinned Paki from a Minnesota university.

 

[Sonero]

1 hour ago, Pair of Rooks said:

How is it anything except beyblade?

 

If Nago didn't have the back teleport, the character literally wouldn't function.

 

Seriously, him being able to do pressure, back teleport into a place where he can SF you to death really makes his corner control really good. 

[Vhozite]

13 minutes ago, Sonero said:

 

If Nago didn't have the back teleport, the character literally wouldn't function.

 

Yeah imo Fukyo is easily his best special like it isn’t even a contest. His mobility would drop to arguably sub-Potemkin tier without it, and he wouldn’t be able to capitalize on a lot of the things people actually hate about the character. 
 

I think beyblade is also an acceptable answer because that move does everything, but my main point is that the answer is definitely not his command grab. Grab could be taken out of the game today with no compensation and I don’t think my W/L ratio would change at all. Between fSSS and super his grab is not necessary to manage his meter. 
 

Like to me the ranking goes 

 

Fukyo>>Beyblade>Clone>DP>>>>>>>Grab

 

Edit: I will say that that hitbox on Beyblade is absolutely moronic. Reminds me of Urien’s pre-nerf EX tackle 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Vhozite

[Sonero]

I've learned to live with it. I've gotten better at other areas of the match up so it has evened out to me. Every time that ish anti airs me and hits as a counterhit, I look at the damn game like Weebay after he found out he shot a cop though.

 

😂

[Shahenzan]

Nago grab isn't his "best" special but it is really important for him. It gives him a very simple and strong mixup that can lead to him winning on the next hit bc command grab drain lets him go ham on specials for a couple seconds

 

But yeah without grab he's just way less scary while without fukyo he actually doesnt function

[Sonero]

I wonder if they ever tested a version of Nago where his regular grab drained his meter. I bet that version would've been nuts because he can sneak in regular throws from a lot of places.

 

[Phantom_Miria]

Bill Clinton knew he could not change society...

 

 

So instead of reflecting upon himself, he blamed the beasts.

 

 

But he found beauty in the lives of the beasts, and couldn't lie to himself about it.

 

 

[BornWinner]

Finally made it to Heaven yesterday. Now I can pretend that I’m a good Faust.

 

 

And yes I realize I misspelled know for now.

[Sonero]

Wait a minute, what kind of shimmy is this?

 

Avatar says ram, profile says Faust.

 

🧐

[BornWinner]

I know with all the Ramlethal I’m associated with, you would never guess Faust is also one of my favorite characters. Back during the second beta, I promised myself I would reach Celestial with him. I’m practicing with Ram now for when the reset happens.

[Pair of Rooks]

2 hours ago, BornWinner said:

I know with all the Ramlethal I’m associated with, you would never guess Faust is also one of my favorite characters. Back during the second beta, I promised myself I would reach Celestial with him. I’m practicing with Ram now for when the reset happens.

I really enjoyed matches with your Faust. Hilarious shit happens every time.

 

Goldlewis matches are dumb fun too but I miss Ky's crappy fireball in that match.

[Dragonfave723]

Baiken's render leaked.

[Sonero]

3 hours ago, Dragonfave723 said:

Baiken's render leaked.

Ah you dick.

 

Saw your name in this thread and thought there was actual news.

 

😂

[BornWinner]

More Baiken images leaked. This time in-game.

 

Spoiler

 

 

Tatami Gaeshi is still able to be done in the air.

 

 

Guess we are going to get her trailer soon. Like tonight or tomorrow soon.

[Vhozite]

AIR OK TATAMI’s BAYBEE 🚪🚪🚪

Edited January 24, 2022 by Vhozite

[Sonero]

2 hours ago, Vhozite said:

AIR OK TATAMI’s BAYBEE 🚪🚪🚪

 

Imagine if they change that?

 

😂

[Phantom_Miria]

10 hours ago, Dragonfave723 said:

Baiken's render leaked.

 

[BornWinner]

Daisuke everytime Baiken gets added to a game.

 

 

[Sonero]

 

[BornWinner]

Trailer is here. Baiken will be playable on the 28th for the season pass holders and the 31st for everyone else. 

The combo maker they talked about pre-release will also be coming.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 24, 2022 by BornWinner

[Vhozite]

Our lord and savior delivering us to the promised land with a new mode 🙌🏽

[Phantom_Miria]

Damn, they gave Baiken a super where she uses Isshin Ashina's glock.

[Vhozite]

Damn they gutted the shit outta her counters it’s like one move now. Big damage though, and I don’t mind too much since she got the cool new rope mechanic in return 

 

gun super is corny 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Vhozite

[BornWinner]

Getting tied up by Baiken sounds like a cool mechanic but I can see it being a pain for Baiken in a few matchups. The Potemkin matchup sounds dire in theory.

[Phantom_Miria]

They kept that animation from Xrd.

 

 

[Darc_Requiem]

Damn Baiken is the Power Girl of Guilty Gear.

[BornWinner]

 

[Vhozite]

Slept on the trailer and the more I think on Baiken the more I’m not sure I actually like her in Strive. Her parry is super watered down and I really don’t like the tether mechanic at all for multiple reasons. 
 

I’ll reserve full judgement till I play her, but I’ve lost a lot of wind in my sails.

[BornWinner]

Patch notes are here.

 

https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-1437/

 

Besides Baiken and Combo maker, just bug fixes. Which makes sense since Frosty is this week and Arc Revo is March. Don’t think we’ll get a big balance patch until then.

[Phantom_Miria]

 

[Sonero]

5 hours ago, BornWinner said:

Besides Baiken and Combo maker, just bug fixes. Which makes sense since Frosty is this week and Arc Revo is March. Don’t think we’ll get a big balance patch until then.

I honestly hope we dont' get a patch until after the 5th character.

 

Think most of the characters are in a good place. The stuff that bothers me are basically unfixable so it is what it is.

[Vhozite]

2 hours ago, Sonero said:

The stuff that bothers me are basically unfixable so it is what it is.

Like what? The only thing I absolutely hate in Strive that I think NEEDS to change is guard break. There is other stuff I don’t like but can live with, but guard break is retarded imo

[Sonero]

2 hours ago, Vhozite said:

Like what? The only thing I absolutely hate in Strive that I think NEEDS to change is guard break

 

Guard Crush is one of them, Zato having Oppose and then just some other random mechanic stuff that irks me.  None of that stuff is ever gonna get a seriously look at for how poorly thoughtout they were so you just accept it and move on.

 

Thankfully FD works against GoldLewis. He was legitimately terrible to fight before that. Now he is still kinda awful but you can some options.

[BornWinner]

Gaming

 

 

[Phantom_Miria]

 

[Sonero]

Bro,

 

 

😂

[BornWinner]

Baiken patch is out and it brought some unintended changes.

 

 

While they don’t confirm what these issues are, the Guilty Gear Reddit has posts about how Happy Chaos’s aiming is worse and how Jack-O throwing minions is messed up.

[Sonero]

 

[Sonero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9vP_GplFxs

[BornWinner]

 

 

[Darc_Requiem]

Baiken counter is 1-frame!? I may have to start playing some Strive.

 

Edit: These Baiken memes..... 😂

 

Edited January 28, 2022 by Darc_Requiem