The Sonic Thread: Before the Shadow takeover begins, we must knuck when we buck. Knuckles series releases April 26.

[Sonichuman]

Ian hinted at this in an earlier Bumblekast when someone asked him questions about Prime

So looks like he is actually involved with Prime as well. 

 

Sonic fandom is currently having discourse though because now there are of course people coming out complaining about how Ian  wrote some of the story beats for Frontiers in terms of referencing past games and I really just can't deal with some of this base right now.  Really feels like this sometimes

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Sonichuman

[Hecatom]

3 hours ago, Sonichuman said:

Ian hinted at this in an earlier Bumblekast when someone asked him questions about Prime

So looks like he is actually involved with Prime as well. 

 

Sonic fandom is currently having discourse thought because now there are of course people coming out complaining about how Ian is wrote some of the story beats for Frontiers in terms of referencing past games and I really just can't deal with some of this base right now.  Really feels like this sometimes

 

 

Are they mad that Sonic canonically was kissed by a human girl?

You would think that would make them happy, since it gives them a chance.

[RSG3]

......What?

[Sonichuman]

1 hour ago, RSG3 said:

......What?

Ok so it's not just me.

[Sonichuman]

Looks like a triple threat tag team match up in the next issue.

[Sonichuman]

So just beat the game and yeah the final boss is pretty lackluster.  Less so when you go for the true final boss but only by tiny bit imo.  The way how you beat the last boss in hard mode is a bit unexpected but considering certain things you do in the game it doesn't come completely out of nowhere.  The last titan boss I felt was more engaging than the very last boss.  Overall 7 out of 10 for this game seems pretty fair and apt.  Really feel anyone who's trying to truly give this game like a 3 or less is really being a try hard or farming for clicks/attention.  I can even see someone giving this game a 5 but this game is nowhere near anything like 06 so if I see anyone immediately trying to bring that game up in the same sentence as this I'm just going to ignore them.  This game could have used more time in the oven to smooth some things out but knowing that this game is the foundation for the future gives me a ton of hope.  There's a shit ton of potential in this that is waiting to be Unleashed. 

 

I really want Sega to take their time in making the next game, don't rush it and actually listen to their Q+A team to fix things cause when the game is fun it's fun, but then the jank comes up and muddies it.  The biggest jank that people will run into on frequently is in the transitioning of this game from 3D to 2D sections for platforming purposes and I completely get why they lock you in to 2D like that for those sections because trying to do them with 3D control on a 2D plane while also trying to work the camera is problematic AF (and you'll realize it when you try to jump into a 2D platform section out in the wild and try to move through it without the 2D plane being locked in).  One of the major issues I have with some of the 2D sections in this game is that some of the time it completely changes how Sonic controls and it feels OFF.  Cybersource levels are ok aside from the one time they suddenly decided to try to put drift back in for certain sections of a stage and implemented it the same way Colors did but without any of the finesse so it felt all sorts of fucked.   There's more that needs to be done in terms of control and movement that could easily bring this game up to 9 or at the least an 8.5.

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Chaos Disgust

Edited December 15, 2022 by Sonichuman

[RegH81]

I'm halfway done with Sonic Prime. That first episode is nearly an hour long! I'm really liking the squash and stretch animation style. Some of the humor is on the cheesy side but I've seen worse. 

[Sonichuman]

18 minutes ago, RegH81 said:

I'm halfway done with Sonic Prime. That first episode is nearly an hour long! I'm really liking the squash and stretch animation style. Some of the humor is on the cheesy side but I've seen worse. 

Watching it currently with my son.  On the third episode.  Favorite alternate character so far is Nine.

[RegH81]

13 minutes ago, Sonichuman said:

Watching it currently with my son.  On the third episode.  Favorite alternate character so far is Nine.

Nine is great. When they cuffed his hands and DIDN'T cuff his nine tails and then he gets free, that was a huge fail. Also, watching him hack while casually using his tails to fend off attackers is one of the most low key baller things I've ever seen.

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Not...completely Sonic related but...yeah

Maaaaaaaaaaann...I liked Ian's work with Megaman so I would have probably really enjoyed whatever they would have came up with for Mario and the the crossover potential would have been amazing.

[Hecatom]

On 12/14/2022 at 4:15 PM, RSG3 said:

......What?

 

A poor attempt of a joke about people being mad that Frontiers makes basically all games canon, therefore people mad at Sonic being kissed by the princess on 06.

Which is to this day a controversial thing for a group of people on the fandom.

[RSG3]

3 hours ago, Hecatom said:

Which is to this day a controversial thing for a group of people on the fandom.

Is it controversial to think that moment was dumb as fuck?....cuz I don't think it is lmao. 

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Just now, RSG3 said:

Is it controversial to think that moment was dumb as fuck?....cuz I don't think it is lmao. 

 

TBH, I don't really mind the moment, since it falls under the harkness test  🤣

But it amuses me that is controversial when a good amount of the fanbase are you know, furries.

 

 

[Sonichuman]

11 hours ago, Hecatom said:

 

A poor attempt of a joke about people being mad that Frontiers makes basically all games canon, therefore people mad at Sonic being kissed by the princess on 06.

Which is to this day a controversial thing for a group of people on the fandom.

I guess I was more so confused because people were just being annoyed at the game referencing a ton of events in the past but 06 is not one of them.   None of the characters in universe know that game's events happened.  The only one that had access to that game was the Time Eater.

Edited December 16, 2022 by Sonichuman

[Sonichuman]

I finished Prime last night with my son.  I know some people feel this show has some pacing issues and I can somewhat see it but I feel most of it is in the beginning is for establishing the different shatterverses of which Season 1 introduces 3.   I think there's at least 3 more that haven't been shown yet and I'm pretty sure some will be more interesting than others.  1st shatterverse is the most interestingly easily with the 3rd and 2nd in that order imo.  Standout alternate characters so far for me have been the Chaos Council, Nine, and Rusty Rose.  Rusty is a pretty dark take on Amy and kinda gives me SatAM roboticization vibes.  I was ok with her at first but as the show went on she really grew on me as an antagonist.  I'm really interested to see where this show goes especially in the interactions with the characters and the impending inevitable crossovers that are going to happen with the Chaos Council's meddling.  Also Shadow is here to beat Sonic's ass.  It really kinda feels like this version of him is just tired of his shit and so far every time he shows up Sonic is getting his face caved in.

Edited December 16, 2022 by Sonichuman

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I've heard that Sega had strict mandates surrounding Shadow from Ian but apparently that extended to just about everything else.  This is part of an interview from the guys behind Sonic Boom

 

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[Hawkingbird]

On 12/16/2022 at 4:05 PM, Sonichuman said:

I've heard that Sega had strict mandates surrounding Shadow from Ian but apparently that extended to just about everything else.  This is part of an interview from the guys behind Sonic Boom

 

I actually like these laws. It will prevent the characters from feeling samey. It's good to have some characters there not purely for comedy.

[Hecatom]

Agree, it is tiresome that nowdays every character needs to be doing lame marvel style quips/jokes all the time.

Plus you can still have a character that is serious on a comedy setting and make it work.

 

If a writer can't do that, then it is putting their abilities as writers in the spotlight imo.

[RegH81]

Sonic Frontiers is a fast selling game, already selling over 2.5 mil globally.

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/12/sonic-frontiers-has-sold-over-2-5-million-copies-worldwide

 

Also, Sonic Frontiers OST made the top 10 on Spotify globablly.

https://primagames.com/news/sonic-frontiers-ost-makes-spotify-top-ten-soon-after-game-awards-snub

 

 

[Hawkingbird]

I finished Sonic Prime and I enjoyed it. The show definitely has pacing issues. Like Sonic time in the jungle Green Hill had no business being a two parter. It was a single episode stretched to two.

 

It seems obvious to me that Sonic character development will lead to him to cherish what he has. The flashbacks made it clear he took what he had for granted.

 

I don't like Rouge being in team Sonic. It's not a good fit. If they wanted a second female character for the crew they could have used Cream (Does Sega hate her? She hasn't appeared in anything since Generations), Sticks (Frontiers confirmed she exists in the mainline games), or Blaze. Any one of them would have been better choice than Rouge.

 

I'm a big fan of nine. The mechanical tails are amazing to see in motion and makes his badassery look effortless. I would accept him as canon tails.

 

New Yoke is definitely the most interesting space this show visits. I get the vibe of it being Sonic Forces done right. Speaking of, does the NPCs in New Yoke look like they were designed using Forces character creator. I find the chaos council disappointing. Like what's the point of having five Eggmans when they are all the same character?  The quirks ain't enough to differentiate them.

 

I loved what little we saw of Shadow. He takes absolutely no shit. I can watch him sucker punch this sonic all day lol

 

I have to question what was the point of rusty rose malfunctioning when seeing black rose when it lead to nothing.

Edited December 19, 2022 by Hawkingbird

[Sonichuman]

I don't think Rusty malfunctioned so much so that it was the first time that she saw another one of herself.  I suspect that her seeing other versions of herself is going to likely result in her rethinking her programming because of what Sonic told her when they first met when he was being held captive.  She was completely ignoring everything he said but seeing another version of yourself is a bit harder to ignore.

 

 

[RegH81]

That little dance Sonic does when he gets a Chaos Emerald from completing one of the mini games? That is EVERYTHING.

[Sonichuman]

 

Macgyvering a piece and a scouter out of spare robot parts

 

 

 

[DangerousJ]

 

Sonichuman: you Jelly, cuz?

[Sonichuman]

On 12/20/2022 at 7:59 PM, DangerousJ said:

 

Sonichuman: you Jelly, cuz?

Interesting.  I probably wouldn't get those shoes though.   The Pumas based his shoes from the movie I think are better.

 

 

[Sonichuman]

Sega:  Hey Ohtani...you look like you got some downtime.  Wanna make some music for this little mobile game for a moment before you can start work on Forces?

Ohtani:  Oh yeah sure I'll do a lil something for that

*Ohtani later*

 

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[Sonichuman]

Interview with the writers of the Sonic Movie, talk about Big the Cat, Shadow, and Agent Stone

https://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/1251874-sonic-movie-writers-talk-big-the-cat-shadow-agent-stone

 

Apparently Big had 2 cameos in both films that were pulled...the writers like Big so do not be surprised if at some point he shows up in some capacity in this Universe. 

[Sonichuman]

Someone found drifting in the code for Sonic Frontiers...outside of that one stage.  Apparently Sonic was going to have the ability to use drift overall but they decided to take it out but leave something of it horribly implemented in that one stage...BUT they didn't take it off of Super Sonic for whatever reason.

 

Also just found out that KHinsider put up the tracks that Tee Lopes made for Sonic 2 HD so if you're interested in downloading that.

https://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-hd-2017

I just happened to see it while looking at something else and it got put up on the 23rd. 

Edit: Slight correction on this, Tee was not the one who did all the music to Sonic 2 HD but he did contribute to it.

 

 

Gametal put up his version of Live and Learn for those interested

 

Little V did 2 covers of Frontiers tracks in "Vandalize" and "Undefeatable" for those interested

 

As I posted in the VGM thread, Victor Borba also took a stab at his own "Undefeatable".  He didn't do the full song though.

 

 

 

Edited December 29, 2022 by Sonichuman

[Hawkingbird]

I just recently became of aware of Archie online. A fanmade web comic that continues the story of the Archie comics much like Sonic the Comic.

 

http://archiesoniconline.com/

[Sonichuman]

Ian's latest bumblekast talks about Frontiers, you get some insight into what he had a hand in and some things that were already established that he had to write around

 

[Sonichuman]

Surge is smacking people with their own pimp

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[RegH81]

I'm on the fifth island in Sonic Frontiers. This music for this island is so GODLIKE!

 

 

And I'mma need this dude Ghost to chill. I don't expect to get the same type of anxiety that drowning in a Sonic game gives me from a ring sucking enemy. And they would have to give him a banger of a track. 

[Sonichuman]

Someone did an amazing 3D animation recreation of SMBZ

This dude is is a compositing Artist for Bungie apparently

Apparently it's part of a side animation project that he's been posting snippits of here and there.

[Sonichuman]

Pretty sure the last issue of Scrapnik comes out this week

Shout outs to Super Mario Bros. Z.

 

Edit:  Mark noticed

Also confirmed that this was in fact intentional

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by Sonichuman

[iStu X]

 

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This twitter post has 2 other shots from the next eps

If I was to take a wild guess on what's going on...I'm going to guess that Shadow and Sonic have some words in the shatterverse void and one way or another Shadow finds out about the regulators.  So they end up fighting over them and probably end up getting tossed in whatever verse is in that picture with them underwater before Shadow eventually just takes them off from him for whatever reason.

[Hawkingbird]

 

[Sonichuman]

On 1/22/2023 at 4:39 PM, Hawkingbird said:

 

My son is definitely inflating these numbers cause he constantly has me playing Sonic Prime nearly every day.  He's always asking to watch it. 

 

He's also been playing ( Read: messing around) in Sonic Frontiers and actually managed to get past the ninja boss.  It's been quite interesting watching him slowly but surely develop his hand eye coordination to play through the first 2 cyber stages.  This was not the first 3D game I wanted him to play to get better at controlling a character in 3D space but he super interested in the game so I figure it can't hurt to just let him mess around with no expectation.  Funny enough from him playing Sonic Frontiers he actually has a better understanding of jumping and moving at the same time and he was actually able to get to the boss in Sonic Mania.  He got there clumsy as hell but he made it non the less so I'm proud of him lol ( He didn't beat the boss in case you're wondering.)

 

 

Kishimoto says they're thinking about dropping the boost mechanic for the next game since it may be more Adventure focused, spin dash may return

https://gonintendo.com/contents/15270-sonic-frontiers-director-says-next-game-could-drop-the-boost-mechanic-and-be-more

 

They're also thinking about the coexistence of both which might be a bit more difficult considering what they both do.  Wouldn't be impossible but they'd have to think about how to make one more useful in certain situations than the other. 

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