Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.

[Shakunetsu]

Here's a question

 

Which is better mechanic TVC's Baroque or UMVC3's X-Factor?

 

Which do you feel a better game TVC or UMVC3 based on personal opinion no right and wrong answer?

 

What makes TVC better than UMVC3 and what makes UMVC3 better than TVC?

 

Thanks guys

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by Shakunetsu

[Hecatom]

5 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said:

Sajam made an interesting point recently.

So many games he played recently have just crossplay on by default and he was asking why FGs are behind on that area.

Crossplay and Rollback should have been standard since the last 5 years.

 

There was something else I had noticed, as I was playing GBVS with a friend last tuesday and steam went into it's usual tuesday night mainteance, we played trough that.

We did not get disconnected for some reason. Which reminded me of a question I had already as the game came out, are these GBVS own servers?

 

Theoretical speaking, if a Company has their own servers and want to do crossplay, there is nothing that should stop them.

 

I do remember there were talks of FFXIV coming to Xbox as well, which would of course be Crossplay with PS4/5 and PC.

 

Sajam forgets that crossplay also involves having recurring monetization schemes for most of those games, so they can sustain the servers.

The moment that fgs start introducing season passes and the like, people will bitch and moan like they always do.

 

Just look at how many idiots complained that DOA had cosmetics as dlc.

 

[Skort]

Hey guys,as i said before  i am trying to improve my skill into 3D software in order to make mods for SF 6 and continuing to work on the racing game i still got in the works. 

 

I wanted to try and make a quick mod for Juri's SF 5 model where she gets to have her SF 6 hair. Needs tons of work still but it's a start.  Used sculpting and editing tools in blender to alter her hair then posed her a bit for extra effect. 

 

The cropped 4 pictures  are a non render viewport preview where you get to edit the model etc

 

 

The second and third pictures below  are the rendered versions with a HDRI background for enhanced light and the model after i posed her.

 

 

 

I have been practicing material / cloth creation as well with a few tools with mixed results  but i'm getting there for sure. It's kinda late to get into mods for SF5 for now but this is definitely good practice for the upcoming game,i'm happy with the progress so far.

Edited July 4, 2022 by Skort

[Hecatom]

16 minutes ago, Shakunetsu said:

Here's a question

 

Which is better mechanic TVC's Baroque or UMVC3's X-Factor?

 

Which do you feel a better game TVC or UMVC3 based on personal opinion no right and wrong answer?

 

What makes TVC better than UMVC3 and what makes UMVC3 better than TVC?

 

 

Baroque Is busted as fuck because how it works in conjunction with the burst mechanic.

Is more easy to unfuck X-Factor than Unfucking Baroque

[Mr.Cipher]

10 minutes ago, Hecatom said:

Just look at how many idiots complained that DOA had cosmetics as dlc.

 

 

Cosmetic DLC in DoA?
How dare they?!
HOW
DARE
THEY?!

Was there anything good in DoA6? I remember 5 having BB Crossover and Alpha getting Mu's Outfit, the good one, not the one she uses in combat.

[Hecatom]

It had a crossover with Dumbbell Nan Kilo Moteru? and with the Atelier RPG series.

Sadly the game was cut short before it had the chance to add more costumes and characters.

 

They certainly did some mistakes with DOA6, which is sad, because it is easily the best entry in terms of gameplay.

 

But their DLC was never an issue, outside the tickets for changing the color of the hair of the chars.

 

Niggas were getting mad because the company offered options.

Which is amusing, I bet those same idiots wouldn't complain that the Bike dealer also sells accessories for the bike they bought.

Edited July 4, 2022 by Hecatom

[Hecatom]

42 minutes ago, Skort said:

Snip

 

 

Man, I need to watch the tutorials for blender again, it has been months since I made anything with it.

And I am currently interested on ripping the 3d modles of 3on3 Freestyle.

 

 

[TWINBLADES]

So is the game plan when fighting Swift Master is to not get touched once? We doing no death runs in ranked now?

[Mr.Cipher]

31 minutes ago, Hecatom said:

It had a crossover with Dumbbell Nan Kilo Moteru? and with the Atelier RPG series.

Sadly the game was cut short before it had the chance to add more costumes and characters.

 

They certainly did some mistakes with DOA6, which is sad, because it is easily the best entry in terms of gameplay.

 

But their DLC was never an issue, outside the tickets for changing the color of the hair of the chars.

 

Niggas were getting mad because the company offered options.

Which is amusing, I bet those same idiots wouldn't complain that the Bike dealer also sells accessories for the bike they bought.

 

In the end, why be botherd with cosmetics anyway?

 

This kind of DLC does literally nothing harmfull.

You like it, you buy it, you don't like it, you don't buy it.

 

Heck, I would buy a Pallete editor for BBCF when ASW puts one in now for money.

Just so I can make my Red and Black Nine I always wanted.

[Shakunetsu]

 

[Shakunetsu]

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by Shakunetsu

[AriesWarlock]

 

[Hawkingbird]

3 hours ago, Hecatom said:

It had a crossover with Dumbbell Nan Kilo Moteru? and with the Atelier RPG series.

Sadly the game was cut short before it had the chance to add more costumes and characters.

 

They certainly did some mistakes with DOA6, which is sad, because it is easily the best entry in terms of gameplay.

 

But their DLC was never an issue, outside the tickets for changing the color of the hair of the chars.

 

Niggas were getting mad because the company offered options.

Which is amusing, I bet those same idiots wouldn't complain that the Bike dealer also sells accessories for the bike they bought.

DoA was very egregious with it's cosmetic DLC. How can they have $80 season passes where the majority of the content is costumes? Temco could have offered more substantial content. When they weren't reselling DLC from the previous game as DLC again. 

[Sonero]

Wolverine's swiss cheese was not added as a nerf to plink dashing. It was added because in Vanilla wolverine could just mash d.L all day and a lot of the cast could do fuck all about it.

 

Video wack already.

 

Also LMAO nobody calls MvC3 a perfect game. That guy needs to talk to people who don't drag their knuckles.

 

Dante's jam session is "possibly the best assist"? This is the same game with Hidden Missiles? Good lord.

[Jocelot]

DoA6 was great cuz it had my dommy mommy Rachel in it.

 

 

 

 

And @Shakunetsuholy shit this is hot. Thanks for this gift

Edited July 4, 2022 by Jocelot

[Hecatom]

4 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

DoA was very egregious with it's cosmetic DLC. How can they have $80 season passes where the majority of the content is costumes? Temco could have offered more substantial content. When they weren't reselling DLC from the previous game as DLC again. 

I disagree.

It is not egregious, since it is just cosmetics.

People took offense to a none issue.

 

The only valid criticism about those DLC bundles was that you didn't have the option to buy the outfits separately like with DOA5.

Outside of that, they gave options to the players to just buy the chars either bundled with their costumes, or just the char, no need to buy the season passes.

 

The whole complaining people did was absolutely retarded.

[Phantom_Miria]

Theree's a new fighting game in development by indie devs, with a dark fantasy gothic theme because Bloodborne was successful and Capcom refuses to make a new Darkstalkers.

 

 

I wonder what the hell "uncapped FPS" even means.

[Pair of Rooks]

Means it can render more than 60 frames per second. Likely the animations are interpolated so you get ultra smooth movement.

 

I'd be surprised if they let it affect gameplay in any way.

[Hawkingbird]

uncapped frame rate is going to be a problem. 

[Hecatom]

Uncapped fps sounds like it can lead to an awful experience if not handled properly.

They will need to have a dynamic input buffer, and that by itself can lead to variable input lag depending on how it is handled.

 

Not to mention that it could make the frame data more difficult to work with.

Edited July 4, 2022 by Hecatom

[Hawkingbird]

1 hour ago, Phantom_Miria said:

I wonder what the hell "uncapped FPS" even means.

It means that the frame rate won't be locked. Every fighting game is locked to 60 fps. This is so every player is on a level playing field and that frame data is consistent across the board.

 

With uncapped the average frame rate will be highly dependant on the users set up. Generally the user who's setup can provide higher fps will get the most advantage

Edited July 4, 2022 by Hawkingbird

[JustBooming]

I suspect the input reader (and/or output) will be locked to 60fps timing, even if the visuals won't be. I also suspect (this is barely educated guesswork, but in my head it makes sense) that's how games like Bloodborne and Dragon's Dogma did it - I recall talk of them recreating the "feel" of controlling at 60FPS at 30FPS (or below), and Bloodborne really did feel snappy.

Edited July 4, 2022 by JustBooming

[Vhozite]

You think your pressure is tight with only a 2f gap until homeboy playing at 180 FPS diddles you with his 1 frame jab

Edited July 4, 2022 by Vhozite

[Jocelot]

11 minutes ago, Vhozite said:

You think your pressure is tight with only a 2f gap until homeboy playing at 180 FPS diddles you with his 1 frame jab

"This grappler sucks he has a meterless 0 frame SPD."

 

"Really? That slow?"

[Pair of Rooks]

Your rendering loop running at a different frame rate than your gameplay loop is one of the hard requirements of roll back netcode.  When a roll back happens it must rewind and replay several frames worth of play within one frames time.

 

It's why the Tekken 7 input lag numbers were so alarming.

[TWINBLADES]

ooooooh say can you seeeee

 

Happy America is the best day baby!

[Sonero]

Is that box Mac & Cheese?

[Vhozite]

1 minute ago, Sonero said:

Is that box Mac & Cheese?

I didn’t even register it was Mac n cheese lol. 
 

Mac n cheese that isn’t charred at the edges it basically invisible to me lol

[Hawkingbird]

store brought biscuits smh.

[Volt]

4 hours ago, TWINBLADES said:

ooooooh say can you seeeee

 

 

Happy America is the best day baby!

Dare I even ask what is that? Looks like British "food" tbh... 

[TWINBLADES]

19 minutes ago, Volt said:

Dare I even ask what is that? Looks like British "food" tbh... 

it’s American food. I’m sorry your eyesight isn’t 20/Patriotic 

[BornWinner]

Who would win?

A vicious martial artist who’s forsaken his humanity or a flying sumo?

 

 

[Shakunetsu]

 

[AriesWarlock]

 

 

[Shakunetsu]

 

Edited July 5, 2022 by Shakunetsu

[Sonero]

 

[Shakunetsu]

 

[CESTUS III]

4 hours ago, BornWinner said:

Who would win?

A vicious martial artist who’s forsaken his humanity or a flying sumo?

 

 

 

Now imagine if this happened in the late SF2 canon

 

150mph flying super tough sumo dude collide with Akuma's rib cage

 

8 broken ribs causing internal damage everywhere, Akuma die on the spot few days after his debut

 

No more Akuma bullshit in SF, his slot used for good stuff, trash taste fans shocked

 

Missed opportunity imho

 

 

Edited July 5, 2022 by CESTUS III

[elliephil]

Looks like KOF designs. I hope they can find a way into SF6 eventually, fits with the aesthetic they are going with pretty well.

 

 

[elliephil]

18 hours ago, Sonero said:

Also LMAO nobody calls MvC3 a perfect game. That guy needs to talk to people who don't drag their knuckles.

 

Dante's jam session is "possibly the best assist"? This is the same game with Hidden Missiles? Good lord.

I've never heard anyone call it a perfect game either. However, (in my totally non-biased opinion c:) it might be the goat. If you were stuck on an island with 100 other people (who all like fighting games) and you could only play one game for the next 10 years, I would probably pick umvc3.

 

The jam session vs hidden missiles culture war continues to brew on. The jammers made a propaganda video it seems lol.

Edited July 5, 2022 by elliephil

[Shakunetsu]

 

[Shakunetsu]

 

[Volt]

3 hours ago, elliephil said:

Looks like KOF designs. I hope they can find a way into SF6 eventually, fits with the aesthetic they are going with pretty well.

 

 

"no, none are coming to SFVI."

 

PC Modders:

[Darc_Requiem]

3 hours ago, elliephil said:

If you were stuck on an island with 100 other people (who all like fighting games) and you could only play one game for the next 10 years, I would probably pick umvc3.

 

MvC3 wouldn't be anywhere near my choice. If it weren't for the license, I would have no interest in the game.

[Shakunetsu]

 

[elliephil]

5 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

MvC3 wouldn't be anywhere near my choice. If it weren't for the license, I would have no interest in the game.

Out of curiosity, which one would you pick?

[Darc_Requiem]

5 hours ago, elliephil said:

Out of curiosity, which one would you pick?

Honestly, probably VF5. It would take me a few years just to memorize the move list for the roster at this point in my life. Simply learning the moves and being able execute them would kill a lot of time. Hell probably wouldn't even get through the whole roster in 10 years. If I were teenager yeah but not now.

Edited July 5, 2022 by Darc_Requiem

[Phantom_Miria]

11 hours ago, Volt said:

British "food"

 

39 minutes ago, Shakunetsu said:

 

You dislike Guile's "Perfect" Booms because you think hitbox users will be favoured over controller and stick users.

 

I dislike Guile's "Perfect" Booms because I don't want to hear Guile shouting "PERFECT!" over and over every time he chucks a Boom in competitive play.

 

We are not the same.

 

[Mr.Cipher]

We went from people making fun of Keyboard/Controller player (lets be real Hitbox is just a Keyboard), since only an Arcade Stick was the real way to compete.

To them getting feared, having unfair advantages over poor Stick player.

Next on the agenda, inspiring fear of Guitar Hero player.

[Shakunetsu]