Transformers Thread

[DangerousJ]

Given how much TF stuff I post in the Saloon thread, some probably think this is unnecessary, but I don't want to spam that thread too much, so here we go.

 

Rules: Be civil and respectful. 

No nudity,racism/sexism/political discussion.

Have fun.

 

Pics , art, video reviews, music,humorous stuff , sales or recommendations are all welcome!

Third party bootleg discussion is also allowed.  (there's such a wide range of stuff that is cool that many casual fans may not know about)

 

 

Edited June 16, 2018 by DangerousJ

[DangerousJ]

 

A Filipino TF fan reviews the Power of the Primes Predaking boxset

(IIRc It will come out late July/early August here in the USA and mostly on online retailers. Toys R US would have carried it, but theyre dead now)

 

Get some snacks and enjoy

 

 

[DangerousJ]

Early reviews of the Wave 3 POTP figures.the remaining 3 Terrorcons

 

Sinnertwin

 

 

 

Blot

 

 

 

Cutthroat

 

Edited June 16, 2018 by DangerousJ

[DangerousJ]

Cute South American Soda Commercial featuring Optimus and Bumblebee.

The special effects look quite good for a Tv commercial.

 

It's sad that a soda commercial has Transformers that look better than a big budget Hollywood film series.

 

 

[misterBee]

I didn't mind you posting in the saloon thread, but this is good too. Always welcome to have your stuff!  😃

[DangerousJ]

Abominus Review

 

 

[DangerousJ]

Since Leonard Nimoy first appeared in Transformers  32 years ago, I suppose this is coming full circle...

 

Star Trek vs Transformers comic mini -series

 

https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-idw-comic-is-mashing-up-star-trek-and-transformer-1826960426

 

 

Quote

io9 can exclusively reveal that this September will see the launch of Star Trek vs. Transformers, a new crossover miniseries from the creative team of writers John Barber and Mike Johnson, alongside artist Philip Murphy and colorist Leonardo Ito. The series—which will run for four issues—is inspired by the aesthetic and continuities from the cartoon iterations of both Trek and Transformers: the 1973 cult classic Star Trek: The Animated Series, and the original 1984 Transformers show.

 

Edited June 20, 2018 by DangerousJ

[Deadly_Raver]

hey. I ran into something called Power of the Primes online a few days ago.  Is this cannon?

 

 

[DangerousJ]

On 6/21/2018 at 3:17 PM, Deadly_Raver said:

hey. I ran into something called Power of the Primes online a few days ago.  Is this cannon?

 

 

To be honest, I havent watched any of them.

 

MAchinima had made some web shorts for Combiner Wars, Titans Return , and now this line.

They are 10 minute shorts and there are around 10 per series.

 

Ive heard that they arent that good in terms, but thery got PEter Cullen and Judd Nelson back.

I havent seen any mention that this is a "Canon" storyline in any articles or discussions.

Sorry I couldnt help lol

[Deadly_Raver]

okay.  I didn't think so, but I figured I'd ask.  To be honest, they aren't all that good when stacked against G1 Transformers.  That horrific "Robots in disguise" shit that came on CN?  Yeah. they blow that shit out of the water at least.  


Come to think of it, I could hand a bag full of oldschool Transformers to a bunch of little kids and they would probably make a better storyline before the end of the day.

[DangerousJ]

 

POTP Optimal Optimus Review

( Optimus Primal's Season 3 form after merging with G1 Prime's spark temporarily)

 

 

[DangerousJ]

A pivotal scene from "Fire in the Sky" recreated with Masterpiece and third party toys...

 

 

[Deadly_Raver]

Oh man.  If I could get my hands on the oldschool Skyfire......................Yeah, you'd think I was in the ghetto fighting over some Jordans.

[DangerousJ]

[DangerousJ]

Maketoys  "Lightning", "Meteor", and "Skycrow"

 

 

[misterBee]

@DangerousJ Could you explain those to me?  Are those unofficial 3rd party products, like those really cool Chinese/Garage Kit Gundam models?

 

If so, how do they get away with just changing the names?  They clearly still use the same logos/designs.  Name change shouldn't be enough to get away from copyright issues.

[DangerousJ]

2 hours ago, misterBee said:

@DangerousJ Could you explain those to me?  Are those unofficial 3rd party products, like those really cool Chinese/Garage Kit Gundam models?

 

If so, how do they get away with just changing the names?  They clearly still use the same logos/designs.  Name change shouldn't be enough to get away from copyright issues.

They are unofficial Third party figures from Chinese companies.

The stickers/logos do NOT come with them. This person taking the photo probably just bought some from Toyhax/reprolabels and slapped them on.

All the 3p toys dont feature the terms "Autobot/Decepticon"  , "Cybertron", Starscream"  and have no  Hasbro logo.

 

My take on why they get away with it....

 

1) Chinese trademark law is harder to defend especially by western companies. (Bootlegs of so many things exist in China)

 

2) Certain "technologies" or features may be patented but not an exact appearance. Things like moving  positions of wheels or subtle things  are used to differentiate it from official product. While it looks similar to us fans, the courts may not agree.

 

3) In a weird way, Hasbro  has a "symbiotic" relationship with 3p. A lot of times, they look at what 3p products are popular and then try and do an official take on it.

Many 3p companies were doing updates of the combiner characters before 2015. With the exception of Fall of Cybertron Bruticus in 2012, Hasbro never made combiners in the Generations line till 2015's combiner Wars and that was probably because of all these companies doing updates.

[DangerousJ]

POTP Outback and Cindersaur Review

 

 

[misterBee]

1 hour ago, DangerousJ said:

They are unofficial Third party figures from Chinese companies.

The stickers/logos do NOT come with them. This person taking the photo probably just bought some from Toyhax/reprolabels and slapped them on.

All the 3p toys dont feature the terms "Autobot/Decepticon"  , "Cybertron", Starscream"  and have no  Hasbro logo.

 

My take on why they get away with it....

 

1) Chinese trademark law is harder to defend especially by western companies. (Bootlegs of so many things exist in China)

 

2) Certain "technologies" or features may be patented but not an exact appearance. Things like moving  positions of wheels or subtle things  are used to differentiate it from official product. While it looks similar to us fans, the courts may not agree.

 

3) In a weird way, Hasbro  has a "symbiotic" relationship with 3p. A lot of times, they look at what 3p products are popular and then try and do an official take on it.

Many 3p companies were doing updates of the combiner characters before 2015. With the exception of Fall of Cybertron Bruticus in 2012, Hasbro never made combiners in the Generations line till 2015's combiner Wars and that was probably because of all these companies doing updates.

The reason I ask is because third party kits are nothing new, but at least with Gundam these are usually very limited quantity and/or are kits for which no 'legitimate' version exists.

 

It's weird that Maketoys not only openly shows off their stuff online, but even has an official distributor in Japan and other countries.  Usually for this kind of thing you gotta go to a local shop and get it, or buy from a third party vendor online.  The way Maketoys does it seems so brazen.

[DangerousJ]

Yeah it is a very weird thing.

There are so many dozens of these companies and each is releasing so many figures .

 

I dont own any yet, though I am thinking of getting Fans Toys sovereign (a 3p Masterpiece Galvatron) and QuakeWave (3p Masterpiece Shockwave).

Galvatron is my 2nd favorite character after Optimus and there is no official Galvatron official Masterpiece figure.

Shockwave DOES have a official MP figure but IMO Quakewave looks a lot better.

[DangerousJ]

The two biggest combiner  mamma jammas in the Generations line!

Each is 18 inches!

(San Diego Comic Con Devastator on right)

Edited June 26, 2018 by DangerousJ

[misterBee]

How stable are these?  Usually combined ones don't pose well/fall apart easily, right?

[DangerousJ]

1 hour ago, misterBee said:

How stable are these?  Usually combined ones don't pose well/fall apart easily, right?

In the G1 days, yes. But the modern ones are a lot better.

 

I have Superion,Menasor, Defensor,Bruticus and they are generally stable.

Superion is the best. Defensor/Bruticus lean forward but they can still be posed without falling apart.

 

I dont have Devastator, but despite his size, he is stable from video reviews I have watched.

 

Edited June 26, 2018 by DangerousJ

[DangerousJ]

G1 Season 3/4 intro - guitar cover

 

 

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[DangerousJ]

An early review for the exclusive Blast Off Shuttle version. 

This will only be online. No concrete date for USA.

This figure is a repaint of the Japan exclusive "shuttle "blast off with G1 colors.

The Jpn version had orange/brown colors for some reason.

 

(The 2015 American Blast Off was a repaint of the Aerialbot Slingshot/Firefly mold with G1 colors.)

 

 

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There will be a new online exclusive Transformers Generations figure of  Punch/Counterpunch (1987  double Spy with an Autobot and Decepticon robot mode)

 

Here are pics that were just revealed today.

 

 

 

 

[misterBee]

Oh hey that's neat.  I like the idea of having two different transformations.

 

Story-wise though...I fail to see how that would ever fool anybody. LOL

[DangerousJ]

Review of Third Party  "Centurion" ( Hearts of Steel Bumblebee.- Basically bumblebee as a steam locomotive)

 

 

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[misterBee]

Do you read any of the comics?

 

I see Transformers/GI Joe are permanently crossed over -- wondering if it's good.

 

[Deadly_Raver]

OMG.  That cover...........................

 

*The crown jewel of the hasbro universe.*

 

 

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  All kinds of no.  First of all,  Who's the fat bitch?  The only military unit she's fit for is the Salvation Army.  Next to her................Hold up.  Is that Aquaman?  I thought he was DC.............

 

Over to the right they went Oldschool as hell.  Everybody say it with me:  KAAAAAAAAAAANEEEEEEEEEEDAAAAAAAAAA!!  If his weapon isn't a laser rifle this book will have to carry.................well, one MORE "L".  Now let's look at,"The Big Guy"   Yo homes.  Why you wearing a leotard?  WTF?  Go change brah.  Speaking of bros,  I'm gonna guess that the one with the glasses is a girl.  The main reason I'm saying that is because they would almost certainly make it an even team.  three guys, three girls.  Three black, three white.  Since I'm already choking on stereotypes, I'm betting that she's the,"Genius" of the team,  hence the glasses.  

 

Speaking of team.........................Let's get to the leader.  Um, Scarlet?  Is that you?  I mean,  it's either you or Billy Batson and I'm sure he didn't  get traded to Marvel soo.........

 

Starscream.  How the mighty have fallen.  look at his face.  Even HE knows this ain't right.  

 

I'm not gonna go over how there's none of the old favorites here.

 

All in all, that cover.  I just cannot................................

 

I award them no points, and may the fans have mercy upon their comic.

 

Edited July 17, 2018 by Deadly_Raver

[misterBee]

The merging of their comic line happened a while back, but since I've never read Transformers or GI Joe comics I'm just finding out about it now.

 

The team in the first issue is Scarlett, Roadblock, Rock 'n Roll, Quick Kick, Wild Bill, and Shipwreck.  I know absolutely 0 GI Joe characters, old or new...but I think it's cool that Transformers are working with them.

[DangerousJ]

Lot of news this week.

 

The new subline for Generations is SIEGE: WAR FOR CYBERTRON

It has nothing to do with the old WFC/FOC video games from 2010-2012.

 

These new toys will have cybertronian alt modes and have a more gritty look, with some battle damage decos.

The new "gimmick" is the return of the Targetmasters (small robots who become weapons). They are now called BATTLEMASTERS and can be melee weapons as well as guns. They come with "blast" effects.

 

Micromasters are also returning.

They will be sold in packs of 2 for $10 (G1 Micros used to come in packs of 4 )

 

These are renders/prototypes so the final version may look slightly different.

 

Optimus Prime (Voyager - 7 inch)

 

Sideswipe (deluxe 5 inch))

Firedrive (Battlemaster aka Targetmaster. Maybe 1-2 inch?)

[DangerousJ]

Siege  pictures  part 2....

(Stakeout and Red Heat) (I had these as a kid 🙂

 

 

(Swindler and Road Handler)

 

Flak and Big Shot

 

Lionizer (one of the Action master "buddy animals" from G1.)

 

[DangerousJ]

Siege  pictures  part III

 

 

 

 

 

 

and the crown jewel imo...

 

Ultra Magnus (IIRc This Magnus is the first to have an inner transforming white cab that merges with the armor exactly like G1. The last UM had the cab but it didnt transform. Also, his vehicle mode is an homage to RID 2001/Car robots God Magnus from 2001

 

 

 

[DangerousJ]

While these are slated to come out 2019, they will probably break street date and start Xmas 2018.

Also, John Warden stated that there are Decepticons and will reveal  them in the coming months.

 

Im definitely getting Sideswipe and Ironhide. 

I may even consider replacing my 2006 classics Optimus with this new one if reviews are good.

 

 

[DangerousJ]

G1 Reissues will be coming to Wal-mart.

 

 

Certain G1 toys in mostly original 1980's packaging are slated to hit Walmart in the next few months.

IIRc toys R US had G1 Reissues in 2002-2004 or so.

 

Other than French language writing, the boxes are the same.

Starscream will have holes in his fists and come with a small Megatron in gun mode accessory.

Bumblebee comes with a cartoon face instead of og face plate.

 

 

 

 

[DangerousJ]

[Deadly_Raver]

If wal Mart really gets the G1 reissues, I'm coping that constructicon set and Lord Optimus help anyone standing in the way.

[misterBee]

On 7/22/2018 at 4:58 PM, DangerousJ said:

What is this? 

[DangerousJ]

Just now, misterBee said:

What is this? 

I think  its concept or promotional art for the new  Siege toyline. It was probably made specifically for San Diego Comic Con.

[misterBee]

Yeah, but it says 'War for Cybertron Trilogy' on the bottom.  Weren't those the games that came out a few years ago?

[DangerousJ]

1 hour ago, misterBee said:

Yeah, but it says 'War for Cybertron Trilogy' on the bottom.  Weren't those the games that came out a few years ago?

It's a weird choice but Hasbro toy people said it has no relationship to the old games.

 

 

It's not the first time Hasbro's has reused a title.

 

Robots in disguise was used in 2001 and 2015 for 2 different toylines.

[DangerousJ]

Thew goes back to look at the  European/Japanese Autobot Commander toy , Thunderclash!