CESTUS III

As said he does'nt fit traditional "evil" villain on psychological level, but on pratical level SFV told us whatever he support would be an absolute planet scale threat to human kind, and as such he will likely be handled as the classic villain-that-must-be-stopped G becoming just a tournament host and ignore the threat he represent would not fit what we have been told so far... unless he play host role in 6 and the threat thing is handled in future Btw i would absolutely support a different new character doing that host thing you say. Just some martial arts fanatic, rich af, undefeated dude that want make up a tournament inviting all the best fighters of the world (lot of wich new) hoping to find a worthy rival able to give him his first L Boring like that, no world conquest shit needed... all you need is make him slighty bad guy so Luke can scream "terrorist!" at him and have excuse to punch him with hero cape on Lets be clear, if you ask me i would LOVE the simple international martial arts tournament setting as it encourage more martial arts nation-rep characters, wich is what i ever loved and wanted for SF, while on other direction GI-Joe plot encourage GI-Joe bs characters Like, Ed or Falke (and Knife/Gorilla) were designed with that kind of Shadaloo GI-Joe plot in mind, designs functional to that shit

Yes and no I mean, we already had in SFV a bit of consideration by characters with great insight about power, and has been hinted that while he does'nt fit the traditional villain his dream would be a threat to human kind, "end of everything" according to Rose "I don't know who you are, but you appear to be the manifestation of a natural disaster." (Oro to G) What's not clear is if G is the wave or just somebody who's surfing it

If fucking Ryu got redesign, everybody get redesign lol They will probably keep her classic color scheme though, or at least not move too far from it

The fact this meme use new star wars movies should give shivers to everybody

About the "ancient earthling" thing, may be related to this "Upon their deaths, the brain of the previous leader is removed and then preserved for future guidance. It is unknown how many previous leaders have been preserved in such a way, but it has been stated that such practice has existed for 2000 years since. " Maybe the current Emperor (or President, if there's not an Emperor) can someway connect with the knowledge of his predecessors

That would be too big change and lot would cry, but perfectly in line with story would be that simply Gill trolled Alex for whatever reason in same way he trolled Urien (pretending to lose in SF3, "giving up" President position) when he could have just defeated him -apparently easily- as shown in SFV The hilarious thing of Gill is that pride wise does'nt even seem to care fake lose to weaker people To Zangief "If it's a tempered body you seek, you should play with your opponent." 😄 Back to SF3 days Oro was waaay stronger than Ryu, and Ryu himself way waaay stronger than Alex We don't know much about how Ryu-Oro gone, but was surely very one side in favor of the latter as Oro thinks that while Ryu is exceptional talent, he will need 15 years of training 😄 For perspective Oro was more or less powerful as Akuma Of Ryu-Alex we know more, as Alex himself admitted he could not do shit to Ryu http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sf3-3alex-1.png For what's worth at some point after SFV Alex defeated on 2nd round a washed up Rog http://www.noe-v.com/images/articles/rf39.jpg

Tbh they can continue from after SF3 Only thing i hope with story they at least clear up Gill losing to Alex because left like that it was sketchy af story lol By Oro quotes Gill and Ryu were the ones truly standing out as potential, let's say for a moment they're more or less equal When Alex face Ryu in SF3 could not land a finger on him, end up ass to the ground completely whooped Yet at that point Alex already defeated Gill apparently We know Gill have history of troll people and lose on purpose (fun fact even a SFV quote hint at that) After the fight Gill found something "special" about Alex, wich may mean he was testing him rather than all out fighting him, but no canon thing at the moment suggest it I know lot people love Alex and would prefer leave it like that,so he at least accomplished something befor SF6 left him behind, but still with elements we have that story does'nt hold up much On positive side all that may mean that Alex and Gill story is'nt over yet

Will not blame you for SF2 love as i'm guilty too and on general i will ever point at SF2 if somebody ask me wich chapter i want see most represented in a future game, as i like almost all of them Both because the characters and because the character design approach behind them... must say SF4 tried do that too, SFV at very begin and results in both case were good If you ask me what i would like to see SF6 picking from 2 Ken- we know 100% must Chun Li- we know 100% must Cammy- we know 100% must Guile- Ok... Luke no more soldier, they can still play USA soldier gimmick on Guile, plus they're completely different. Also Nash is dead so 50% of this gimmick is gone already Zangief- Cestus 100% must, fuck other people opinion lol Dhalsim- Like him but can do without, could accept successor. I think Necro may steal his slot (not saying they CAN'T cohexist btw), hope he stays at least as NPC for story Blanka- Like him but can do without, could accept successor or nothing Honda- Like him but can do without, could accept successor. But want Sumo rep, important martial art and best to create "fat guy" slot lol Fei Long- Would like him, missed him in SFV. But i can accept another Bruce Lee wannabe successor. But fuck it, just use Fei Long at this point lol DeeJay- T.Hawk- I will not miss him, there are other "giant guy" characters that are much better (watching you, Hugo) Balrog- Grown as Mike Tyson fan, but Dudley is just way more interesting boxing rep. Style, character design, even nationality Vega- I would like him, pretty iconic and unique in fight game world, plus classic Spain rep of SF Sagat- 100% must. I mean if alternative is nothing like in SF3 i can accept another thai Muay Thai rep, but fuck that Sagat is just too iconic M.Bison- Conflicted here. I like him as Boss but blame Capcom for spamming him too much. I say YES, but in later (2 or 3) season using the Kage-like spirit gimmick Akuma- I dream i will never see him again in a SF game, then wake up and realize he will never leave because SF developers apparently watch his pictures, think how stronk japanese Akuma is and the start fap all together

It's less pathetic, but still pathetic Problem is it's intentional You can fix errors, but not the fact they're 100% on fuck the standard to sell that new shit is the new thing and you have to let go the past Wich is bit worrying considering "the past" is why SFV survived, and the little i seen so far does'nt scream exactly absolute objective quality improvement

Problem is, as much i like Urien and hope to see him in 6, unless they invent some shonen power boost gimmick based on his inferiority complex dude is not Boss material, never was Again, i like Urien way more than Gill, but it is what it is Realistically unless new people want to shit on SFV too, G is going to be 6's final villain They said he was "SFV final boss", and absolutely did nothing with him SFV ended pointing clearly at him as world's next threat But i agree, he's not credible as he is Now G showing his true face and much greater potential (maybe even hinting to save appearances he had to hold back vs Gill in SFV), yeah that can work Neo-Shadaloo is Capcom's way to keep Bison/Psycho Power as a thing without involve conventional Bison, with all that push for change they're best chance for Psycho Power to keep exist on story level I think they can easily add playable Bison as a non-physical level entity, making Ed fight him in his own mind/nightmares, more or less like Kage was... but ironically for that you will still need Ed I would guess also that fully possessed Ed is actually your best chance of see again Bison as boss one day lol Tbh i'm never a fan of use multiple slots for same group, don't like bunch of people with same uniform Shadaloo Kings were exception because variety was key there, they were designed as individuals and linked only story wise But said all that Knife or even Gorilla are'nt anything incredibly absurd for SF style, if new art can't deal with SF crazyness maybe problem are'nt characters themselves(good or bad they may be) but crappy attempt to make SF become realistic shit, wich is something that SF never truly needed outside of shit marketing cunts that if left free would erase everything to sell 1 more copy 🤣 (but also😭) I would like that too Only problem is in these scenario people ever imagine "old" will include his fav characters wich may not Personally i got not incredibly large number of characters that to please me "MUST" be in and not replaced by similar style new face, but what i really want is still all most important/iconic martial arts represented and lot of nationality variety Do that and i welcome lot of new faces, they expand SF world

Yeah, but i was'nt thinking at Kenshiro himself, but how mass is used to portray power and aging in HnK as a whole and told you may have influenced the development of Gouken/Akuma figures, NOT Ryu... "But playing devil's advocate that seem the direction if we watch the Ansatsuken masters we can see right above him: Akuma is way bulkier than Ryu and Gouken is a fucking huge bearded boar Guess if we go back to the river's source Hokuto no Ken used lot mass to express power" again if we want use them as how an Ansatsuken Master age going into middle age/early elder age, they both are big motherfuckers Gouken is just huge, Akuma just got larger/heavier looking in SFV To use HnK example, we can look how they made old Masters in HnK... Ryuken and Koryu were fucking massive (and both inspiration for SF Gouken, bulk included), Jukei (who passed roids to Akuma) while not being as big was still a stocky motherfucker too and his muscle mass got boosted when he was possessed I absolutely AGREE with you with the analysis of Kenshiro being portrayed as a dynamic figure, the anime/manga "hero" of his world, wich lead me to latter part of what i said: on character design terms i think the move to a less dynamic/youthful figure is a clear move by Capcom to try push Ryu out of his "Kenshiro" status forcing audience (specially non-western one that would not like old looking, stocky, bearded protagonist) into look for a new hero figure To me sucks, but this would lead to much larger analysis of options wich would end up much bigger than the post itself lol

Tbh give each character unique distinctive body proportions is probably one of SFV character design best merits Btw Luke -at least in SFV- stats wise was supposed to be heavier guy than Ryu, 90kg vs 85kg (but he was also 10cm taller)

Tbh i think if they bother update the stats again from SFV i think new Ryu is going to be listed even heavier Maybe they will not touch the 90 that psychologically will be perceived as him being big/slow dude instead the "balanced fighter" he's supposed to be... even if we are already used from SFV to see him as a static stocky motherfucker that strike like a truck Would say they may go like 87/88 just to show got bit bulkier I disagree with multiple things going on with current Ryu design, including mass choice (and even more than that, the wide af facial structure) But playing devil's advocate that seem the direction if we watch the Ansatsuken masters we can see right above him: Akuma is way bulkier than Ryu and Gouken is a fucking huge bearded boar Guess if we go back to the river's source Hokuto no Ken used lot mass to express power More than brute seems to me they're removing youthful/hero imagery from him and trying to lock him into some middle age Master side-role, wich i'm not sure it's good idea Whole meaning of the teaser is show Ryu is the old gen On positive side if the theme will be build a cast that play on contrast between old guard and new blood in theory would be cool... basically the innovation spirit of SF3 but without the shitty antagonization of the past Problem is i don't trust them to design new great characters, specially if they have to stick to this new style and with head likely filled of western bullshit

People making fun of the logo is last of my concern tbh True problem is that it break a stylistical continuity that SF logos had for decades, make guess what else they sacrified to look new/modern and please that imaginary ignorant western consumer that seem to obsess their minds

Now may not make sense anymore, but i still think things were being told differently in Gill/Urien case Not saying big picture would have changed, but could have been different perspective of same story... specially because the whole Alex-Gill part felt like capcom bullshitted us back to SF3 lol Well whatever, guess they can still do it with a flashback in 6 if they want But i fear they just want ignore 3 story and move on For what we know he may have interrupted it for whatever reason, i doubt Capcom will have left him be Oro's disciple for 15 years Either he learned fast af because he's the "special one" or events need him now, so he interrupted it mid-run Or as you say they simply ignore that 15 years line and make that he trained long enough lol

Guess who complained back then and who don't like it now are two different "we" lol Did'nt liked it in SFV, but i was ok with it as it was an alt Hated see whole american hype about it because i knew capcom will have took notes, i was 99% sure i will have got that shit in 6 Prefer current beard than SFV one though, but would still prefer current design (wich is perfect) but no beard No much problem btw as of course classic look will be there as alt

This Thanks gods i may add If crap looked like MK i would have left lmao doubt there will be much story retcon for it, i take it as capcom simply aknowledged everybody found these tattoo retard af so they removed them

@Scotiagot to give you credit, you were probably right about timeline jumping beyond SF3... lol never thought they would just threat SF3 arc like that,leaving all that events in a box with 23years of dust over it 🤣 Guess what we see is post-Oro-training Ryu 😯 We already know that "shadow" will be a thing, is called Ed While at it wish they can retcon it as he want to be called Edward, as if he want change his usual name (wich would fit a switch of personality)... no fucking Evil Boss Villain can be called "Ed" damn it lol Btw combining time-skip with Ed's unnatural fast growth dude may be already fully adult, even if they may stop at physical peak like 25yo

idk so far only 3 things that gave me vomit are -Luke frame when he smile giving me "realistic expression" DMC5 nightmares, but lucky rest still give me heavy stylized impression -Logo being absolute crap -Music/announcer, but guess that's supposed to roll with Luke as protagonist Well, guess we may hope to see something more of SF6 when they will announce/show it Iirc SF4 reveal was like that, non ingame teaser and then we got a super early build Ryu vs Ken vid

Btw they said anything about march SFV patch?

Lol joke or not good thought Tbh if SF6 love his number gimmick as V did i will not be surprised see exagon be signature gimmick of this one Maybe the action taking place still in 2D style but developed on 3 crossed lines and you switch from one to next one left or right with one single wide side-step Lol who knows

Hoped we got more but whatever, now that shit started we will see more in future Hard to tell what ingame art style will be like, if we can use this teaser as indication impression is more realistic than clayfighterV but thankfully still heavy stylized, no "they're real people now" bullshit that scared me after DMC5 Ryu new design is simple but awesome, too bad for the beard but guess was inevitable after internet wierdos made a cult about that Ryu alt costume. Will have classic look as alt, so no problem here Luke new design looks simple but decent. MMA SFV one was good too, had very "fighter" vibe to it, hope it return too Glad they seem to remember his base hair colour is brown, the everybody is fluo banana yellow blond nightmare may be over still have them, muscle proportions seem simply bit less extreme than SFV, but still have huge forearms i've zero problem with MMA vibes, if anything if may mean there will be an actual tournament and more focus on martial arts clashing and less scifi GiJoe, i welcome it lol Hope fight in exotic crazy locations stay a thing and oct.. exagon is more part of Luke's imagery, doubt SF6 stages will be bunch of ufc arenas

Well, if they go like they did with SFV , gameplay of two characters may be very well what we get I will be ok with it honestly, it will give a taste of art style, action flow and maybe even new mechanics wich would be already lot to speculate on lol Ironically some of the stuff Ryu got in SFV first vid did'nt even made it to the actual game lol

Will drop at 6am here (Italy) lol Personally i like if they planned it on hour that make sense for japan, because mean they still did'nt sold SF6 ass to the west lol The day SF will looks like an american game i will be out Lmao huge line so close to launch trailer 🤣

Tbh i'm still glad things are like that, because if you want go to the other extreme, see how Capcom behave when they don't trust a brand to attract people I want them to keep invest huge on SF If SFV was a big fail i doubt their reaction will have been "so we will do a much greater SF6!" SFV needed Sony money to begin with lol I understand what you say, but other direction was much worse if you want change just be happy new people are in charge