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Chun-Li_Forever

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  1. If F.A.N.G. stands for "Fucking Asian New Guy", then does A.K.I stand for "A Killer Improvement"?
  2. Not sure if anyone caught this. But Manon's (the french female fighter/Female Abel) name is a diminutive of the name Marie. Its French origin that means Of The Sea Or Bitter. (Take name meanings with a grain of salt) Thought it was worth noting since she (aside from AKI) has a name that's a little more uncommon.
  3. Get Ming-Na Wen to voice Chun-Li in a Disney adaptation and that would be such an awesome way to bring it back around!
  4. Slight improvements. The lighting certainly helps see that. I LOVE Chun-Li's SG6 model. Her profile pic in this looks great, love how they make her look more Asian than previous games, but she still looks and feels like Chun-Li. I can also assume that her in-game model will have some minor alterations as well. But yeah, this is looking good. Playing SFV for what will be 6 straight years, I'm still attached to her SFV model, because damn, that was a GOAT model compared to everyone in the cast. But I'm very confident that SF6 is going to give me that same attachment too. Loving it already.
  5. You do have a point. We've already got 2 Chinese characters (Jamie being from Hong Kong, according to the leak), and AKI also probably will be a Chinese character too. I do know the two countries Capcom loves to have represent Street Fighter characters are the US and Japan. So already having 3 Chinese characters for what looks like to be the initial roster seems to be pushing that envelope a little. I think if Li-Fen were to be a playable character (whether it be in SF6 or beyond), I think Capcom will take the Ryu/Sakura approach: Both are fundamentally the same characters, but play a little different. Chun-Li now having a stance button, and having her be more of a techincal character in the past, will be the more challenging character to play, while Li-Fen will have similar moves, but much more simpler inputs and commands. OR Li-Fen could be an assist character that drop kicks fools to assist Chun-Li in battle before retreating outta there. Oh man, I can think of multiple story ideas for something like that that could happen in World Tour mode! We've seen her study with Chun since she got adopted. And we've seen how much Chun enjoys teaching her. How awesome and proud she would feel seeing her longtime student mastering her teachings?! Oh, and speaking of Story stuff.
  6. How old does she look in this? I've watched the trailer so many times, but I can't come to get an idea of how old she looks. She's def aged up quite a bit since SFV. I htink she was abotu 6-7 years old in SFV. And she looks like she's already a teenager in SF6. (Maybe on the lower side, like 13-15?) I know teenaged playable characters is def possible: (Sakura and Karin in Alpha / Ibuki and Sakura in SF4 / Akira and Ibuki in SF5). So it's within the realm of possibility. Plus, she looks more rendered and detailed than most other NPCs, so at worse, she's an important story mode character, and at best, a future DLC playable character.
  7. it's on the Playstation Blog, so not really a "leak", unlike the leaked character roster.
  8. Okay, I've given myself at least 12 hours post-trailer to collect myself and my thoughts for Chun-Li and her redesign. First of all, they showcased Street Fighter 6 and the redesign of Chun-Li on my birthday! So already this has a profound impact. It just feels a little extra special. We all knew Chun-Li was gonna be in. She is too important of a character to not be in the game. I think we were all anticipating that she was gonna have a redesign. They gave Luke and Ryu a new looks in their teaser, so it was safe to assume that Chun could get one as well. Capcom def played it safe with SFV in not totally redesigning all of their characters. Some got minor changes (Dhalsim, Vega, M. Bison), others go completely in a different direction (Karin, Sakura, Cody), and there were some that just played it safe with hardly any changes (Ryu, Zangief, Rose, and of course Chun-Li). Since Chun already had an iconic character design, any drastic changes could ruined what made her design so timeless. But since Chun-Li has moved into a different role in her life after retiring as a police officer, I definitely agreed that change would've been inevitable. Since SF6 was going to be fresh for a new generation, it was time to reintroduce our poster girl in a different look. Something that kept her familiar, but also had understandable and meaningful changes. And SF fam... let me just say... I LOVE HER NEW REDESIGN CLOTHING Chun-Li's most dominant color for pretty much her entire lifespan in Street Fighter has always been blue. There might be different shades of it depending on the game and the graphics at the time. But her primary associated color has always been, and probably will always be, blue. This time, the blue that catches the eye first when looking at her is a sky blue, paired with a more ocean blue, which comes in the form of her new legging colors, and also seen on one shoulder sleeve, which helps break up the symmetry. And while gold used to be one of the main accented colors in her old qipao design, it now takes a more subtle approach to the color, serving as the colors for her hair and ribbons, her qipao outlines and design patterns. If you look closely, you'll see gold and black are the, are more prominent on the underside of the new qipao, as well as the base colors of her new bracelets and flats she wears on her feet. Interestingly, Chun-Li's main three primary colors are blue, white, and gold. But for this outfit, they blended the blue and white together, which explains why a light blue is now Chun's primary color look for SF6. By blending two of her primary colors together, and replacing it with white, it does enough to feel new but familiar. According to colorsexplained.com blue emits the emotions of Trust, Responsibility, Loyalty, and Authority. Blue emits a Calming, Relaxing, Cognitive enhancing effect. And the positive feelings you get out of it include Honesty, Peace, Serenity, and Commitment. The redesign rings true to the colors and color psychology that have everything to do with Chun-Li's character. Instead of being a headstrong individual who's only goal is to defeat M. Bison, bring down Shadaloo, and avenge her father at any cost, she is now a devoted teacher and respected member of her community. She is someone looked up to. Someone you can learn from, but also someone who will teach through patience, care, and love, as displayed in her SFIII endings. Another thing to take note of in the design are the sky, clouds, water, and bird design in Chun's qipao. Here are some of the predictions I have in the symbolism of those designs. I think the Sky/Clouds is symbolic of heaven or the afterlife, where her father resides. And the Bird symbolizes Chun-Li (Spinning Bird Kick after all). The bird flies gracefully down from heaven to the water, possibly symbolizing Chun-Li being at peace with moving on from avenging her father, while the sky trail she leaves behind (or symbolically flies upon) keeps her connected to him in memoriam. I do believe the Water/Ocean down at the bottom of the Qipao does symbolize the most ideas and themes. The water is symbolic of Chun-Li and her fighting style of Kung Fu. "You must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip and it can crash. Become like water my friend.” - Bruce Lee. Chun-Li's kung fu can be swift, powerful, forming, graceful, soft, and so much more. The water can also represent the world, or more specifically, Chun-Li's prospective students. Now that Chun-Li is a teacher, she can mold those new students into powerful warriors just like her. But her fluid teachings and patience are also that of water. And the thing about water, when more are grouped together, it can become an unstoppable force. For instance, a garden hose vs a tsunami. I'm predicting Chun's teachings and influcence on kung fu will make waves upon the fighting world. This all connects back to her father (as seen again on her qipao), as she's doing all she can to make her father proud. And I'm sure if he were alive, he would most certainly be proud of her daughter. A while ago, I made this prediction about Chun's redesign. I thought that one of the directions that Capcom will go would be a Sifu look. " I can't take 100% percent of the credit and say I was right. But this new Chun redesign is def one of the directions that I though Capcom would go for. Chun-Li's costume looks like she's a Sifu. And according to her SF6 description, that's the mantle she takes up: a respected member of the community who teaches Kung fu classes. To be fair, Chun-Li's classic design will always hold a place in my heart. It's a top favorite costume of hers, and that will never go away. But this new redesign for Chun is 100% appropriate and on brand for Chun-Li. And I love everything about this design. FACE/ANIMATIONS I'm sure with plenty of time left from now until launch, Capcom will make some changes to her face. Chun looks great, but this creepy grin might need a little touch up or two. But what I love about this look is that they made Chun-Li look more Chinese than she did in previous iterations, which is something I greatly appreciate. I think Chun-Li looks good. She looks aged up, but it looks like she's in her mid-late 30s in this game. So she has that mature air about her, but still is beautiful for all us long-time Chun-Li fans. I love the way Chun-Li looks in this new graphics engine, and this touched up face of hers. Look how royally elegant she looks. One last thing I want to point out, and it's can be seen during Ryu's Shin Shoryuken in the Commentary SF6 video, This may be emcompassing every SF6 character face model, but I absolutely LOVE the characters' animated facial reactions when they get hit, instead of the same generic "pained faces" they've used for SF4 and 5. I've rewatched the trailer many times, and there are some moments where Chun's legs look a little wonky, like made of playdough. So I'm sure Capcom will go and revisit that. not sure if it's the muscle physics, some animation wonkiness. But there are moments where Chun-Li looks as gracefull and fluid, and others it's just one giant cake to the face. They made Chun-Li a stance character. Though the only data I can find is that she's displaying two different crouching animations. One where she's seated on the ground (just like her SFV crouching pose), and one where she's bent a little over. I think Chun's movelist is reflective on Chun-Li relying a little more on grace instead of raw power. While she can kick very fast as well as very hard, I'm noticing more fluid and circle motions in her moves. I'm sure Capcom will do some retouches. Chun-Li had a couple of retouches with her SF5 model from when she was introduced to what she is now. Plus, we all know the whole MVCI fiasco with Chun's face. Chun-Li looks great now. And I'm looking forward to see what she'll look like in final form. VOICE if you weren't aware on the SF6 website, Chun-Li's long-time english voice actor sine SF4 in 2008 Laura Bailey is being replaced by Jennie Kwan. Laura Bailey has always been my #1 favorite VA of all time, and I'm forever grateful for providing the voice of Chun-Li for the past 14 years. But I'm very VERY excited to hear Jennie Kwan take up the new voice for Chun-Li. (For those of you who aren't familiar with her work, she's the voice of Suki from Avatar the Last Airbender. Or for something a little more recent, she voices the 2nd main girl Mayuko Nise in Netflix's Hi-Rise Invasion.) As an Asian-American myself, i'm loving how they cast a Chinese VA to voice Chun-Li. Love the representation. Jennie also makes Chun-Li sound a little older than Laura Bailey's more young and energetic resonance she gave Chun. So I think this is a fantastic choice. PERSONALITY One thing I'm noticing is Chun's parry animations. SHe has one hand behind her back and deflects each hit with only one arm. She keeps a sage expression on her face, and has this serenity feel to her animations. It feels that she's not wasting any more effort than she knows she should. And this kind of personality can also bee seen in the Trailer. Chun-Li is training with a young student (supposedly Li-Fen), and notice how she's kept her hands behind her back and makes dodging the young girl look effortless. I would love to see some smile or love in that short clip though. Since Li-Fen is her adoptive daughter, I would think sparring with her would be a time where she can find some simple fun and joy, so maybe a subtle smile in seeing Li-Fen grow and improve, but also knowing she has got a long way to go. TLDR: I LOVE HER NEW REDESIGN
  9. I think this may be legit, since Ryu's Jamie's and Luke's look matches the trailer. But what do you all think?
  10. So excited for this! Laura Bailey will forever be my #1 favorite VA, and I'm so eternally grateful for what she's done with Chun. But I'm 100% for the VA change. As an Asian-American myself, I absolutely LOVE seeing representation. So congrats to Jennie! (She's also the voice of Suki in Avatar Last Airbender if y'all want a reference. For something a little more recent, she's the 2nd main girl character in Hi-Rise Invasion on Netflix) The girl training with Chun in the trailer could very well be Li-Fen. And if it is indeed Li-Fen, then it looks like we have a pretty good idea of how long the time-gap is from SFV to SF6. She looks just like Sakura's age when she started Street Fighting. SO maybe a 10 year gap? Also, another clue, notice the pandas on her headphones. Li-fen in her Capcom C.R.I profile art has a panda on her shoulder bag. Maybe Li-Fen could be a playable character, or maybe it has to do something more story based? Li-Fen is mentioned in Chun's SF6 profile.
  11. I interpreted that her encounters with Vega happened before her eventual confrontation with M. Bison. Chun's character story takes place when she was a rookie interpol officer. Vega tells Chun-Li her about her missing father and "how he met his end". And then when she faces M. Bison, that when she finds out from him that he's the one who killed him.
  12. So the guy's tier-list had me combing through Chun-Li's win/loss record according to the SF canon (because I have nothing better to do on a monday workday). In chronical order to the lore (including all games, retcons, OVAs, movies, story modes, Fight Your Rivals) Street Fighter Alpha Chun-Li vs M. Bison (Final Boss) - Result: LOSS Even in Alpha, M. Bison is still leagues above a young, headstrong Chun-Li. Though M. Bison is brought to one knee as seen in Chun's Alpha 1 ending, M. Bison was clearly toying with her, knocking her out and into a hospital bed with one Psycho Power punch to her stomach Street Fighter Alpha 2 Chun-Li vs Gen (Mid Boss) - Result: DRAW Since Gen and CHun-Li are each other's mid bosses respectively, then it could be safe to assume that they met up with each other before Chun-Li went off to find M. Bison. In a real fight, I believe Gen could easily defeat Chun-Li, but it is plausible that Gen held back some when Chun-Li tried to fight for information on her father from him. Either Chun-Li got the information needed, or realized that fighting against Gen wouldn't yield any favorable results, and resulted in both parting Chun-Li vs M. Bison (Final Boss) - Result: DRAW This time around, M. Bison acknowledges Chun-Li's strength, even though he was clearly holding back against her. M. Bison retreats instead of knocking out Chun-Li in this one. It's unknown with the details of the fight, but both emerge with no clear victor in this contenst. EXTRA: Chun-Li vs Akuma (sub boss) - Result: Unknown (Not 100% sure if canon, so I'm not adding it. But chun-Li can fight Akuma as a sub boss before fighting M. Bison) Street Fighter Alpha 3 *Canonicity withstanding from the previous two Alpha games, Chun-Li vs Birdie (Rival) - Result: WIN Chun-Li beats Birdie and gets him to spill M. Bison's location Chun-Li vs Cammy (Rival) - Result: WIN I'll chalk this up as a win for Chun-Li because she was able to defeat Cammy and break M. Bison's pyscho power influence on her. That said, Cammy's Alpha ending in the SFV arcade mode shows Cammy knocking out Chun-Li. http://www.game-art-hq.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/SFVAE-Arcade-Ending-Cammy-SF-Alpha-Route-Art.jpg Chun-Li vs Juil & Juni - Result: WIN This fight transitions between her fight with Cammy and M. Bison, M. Bison sending her dolls to take care of Chun as she fights them off before fighting M. Bison Chun-Li vs M. Bison - Result - DRAW Chun-Li manages to hold her own, and almost goes into arrest him. But M. Bison doesn't go down easy. M. Bison retreats as Chun-Li takes care of the Shadaloo base. So while Chun-Li didn't get the one-on-one victory against M. Bison, she does shutdown M. Bison's base. Sidenote: more than one ending has M. Bison being blasted off by a laser, so even though Chun-Li does press the button that would vaporize M. Bison in her particular ending, I wouldn't count that as a "win" for Chun. Guile vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: DRAW No animosity between the two, just Chun-Li trying to stop Guile from interfering with Charlie's mission Dan vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: LOSS Probably the most embarrassing loss of Chun's career, and one of the reasons why I'm thankful Alpha 3 is canonically shaky. It's not that Chun-Li isn't at fault, she does pull the idiot card in assuming Dan was affiliated with Shadaloo. But Dan gets the best of her, and she even admits in her post-match dialogue against Dan "How can I be beaten by such a pathetic style?!" Sodom vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: DRAW (maybe win?) I can't find any thing outside of the Rival Dialogue with this. Sodom want to convert Shadaloo's base into a Mad Gear spot. Chun-Li is investigating Shadaloo. They fight. Though it is on Sodom's side and you do have to beat Chun-Li to advance, Sodom does not end up with the base in his possession and Kamikazes in his end. To that end, Sodom didn't get what he was after while Chun-Li would resume investigating the Shadaloo base. So it could chalk up as a win for Chun. But since there is little I can find outside of this, I'll relegate it to a Draw or unknown. Zangief vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: DRAW (maybe loss?) Same with Sodom, there is nothing outside of the Rival Dialogue that gives us any information. Chun-Li urges Zangief to let Interpol handle Shadaloo, but Zangief proves he's worthy to fight Shadaloo, as he does contiinuing his arcade path. Both show no ill feelings in future games, this moment is never referenced. Either Zangief totally overpowers Chun into Submission, or Chun-Li acknowledges Zangief's strength to allow him to help against Shadaloo. Street Fighter II Chun's ending in this shows her praying to her father that she avenged his death. While not canonically clear on who won the SFII tournament outside of Akuma ending M. Bison's life with the Raging Demon), we can't assume that Chun-Li canonically defeated M. Bison in this one, since every SFII ending assumes the chosen character ended up winning the whole thing and beating M. Bison in the end. That said, there is one event that takes place POST-SFII that can be seen in the C. Viper Aftermath trailer that is particularly interesting Chun-Li, Ryu, Ken, Guile, and Cammy vs M. Bison - Result: WIN The aftermath assumes that it took a team effort to stop M. Bison's terror at the end of SFII. What's significant about this is that Chun-Li is the one who delivers the decisive blow that has M. Bison at the hands of the good guys. So that should score some "lore points" with her and against the man that's been driving her revenge arc for years. Though M. Bison goes the "suicide" route, rather than be defeated, i'll chalk this as a win for the whole team and for Chun-Li There is one other thing: in Chun-Li's Aftermath Traiiler, it shows her fighting against Ken. I can only assume it takes place within the SFII timeframe, and a winner for that is unknown as well. Street Fighter IV - OVAs First starting with the Ties That Bind OVA. Chun-Li & Sakura vs SIN Henchmen - Result: WIN Doesn't really mean anything, it was expected these two cuold beat a bunch of jobbers. Plus, this fight does nothing for Lore Points. But it's a win, and the only fight she partakes in the OVA. And now the Juri OVA Chun-Li vs Juri - Result: LOSS Juri pretty much stomps everyone in this OVA to legitimize her as a character. Chun-Li just happened to be one of those victims in her way. Street Figher IV - Game Lets take a look at all the Fight-Your-Rival moments Chun-Li vs C. Viper (Rival) - Result: DRAW I'd say if it happened twice, it's not a coincidence. It certainly is within the realm of possibility that Chun-Li and C. Viper met and combatted during their investigations into SIN. Since C. Viper can't blow her cover, violence was the only option. Unclear winner on this one as both go on to resume their investigations into SIN. We can also assume that both of their "victories" to advance the arcade path will cancel each other out, if Chun-Li were to win in her path, and Viper were to win in hers. Chun-Li vs Juri (Rival) - Result: WIN (or draw) Take this with a grain of salt. But hear me out. In the cutscene, Juri acknowledges her beatdown in the Juri OVA, so there is some canon connection there. This fight is basically Chun-Li's revenge after getting stomped in their first battle. Take note that Juri activates her Feng Shui eye before the fight, meaning that she would not go easy on Chun during this fight. Chun-Li this time gets the better of Juri, but fails to arrest her and sends her retreating. So if we count Fight your Rival moments as part of canon, then it's viable Chun-Li managed to hold her own against Juri, who was toying with her for the most part of the Juri OVA. Chun-Li vs Seth (Final Boss) - Result: Unknown Since we don't see Chun-Li take on Seth outside her Arcade mode path, we can't assume that the two met, fought, or who would win. Balrog vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: LOSS (or Draw) This is one of possibly the few times Chun-Li and Balrog ever fought canonically. Assume we're playing from Balrog's perspective, Balrog would have to win to advance the path, which would mean a loss for Chun-Li. That, or possibly both fighters could be even in terms of skill and power, that Balrog is able to escape from Chun before she can bring him in for questioning. Too bad their Fight your Rival dialogue is the only reference we can draw from. Vega vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: LOSS (or draw) Same with Balrog is that we'll have to assume we're playing from Vega's POV to advance the story, which would mean a loss for Chun. If we are to assume this fight would take place before the happenings at the SIN base, then Chun's defeat would allow Vega to get to the SIN base first before Chun-Li could enter (as show in Vega's SFIV Vanilla ending). Vega does get one last laugh against Chun-Li, albeit a sneaky one, where he traps her in lockdown before the gas asphyxiates her. Gen vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: LOSS or DRAW Interestingly enough, this is almost the same as Chun's and Gen's Rival dialogue back in SF Alpha 2 I know what I said before, that we'll have to assume the POVs of the playable character to advance the arcade path. And same with Gen, in that Gen would have to beat Chun-Li to move on to the final boss. Gen said in the Fight Your Rival cutscene that he won't hold back against Chun-Li as she's trying to get answers from him (whether it be Shadaloo connections, or information on her father reamains unclear). In the end, Gen doesn't stop Chun-Li from continuing to investigate SIN, neither does he give her any info she desires. But Gen does save her in the base (as seen in Gen's vanilla ending) before Guile and Abel come to retrieve her. Yun vs Chun-Li (Rival) - Result: Unknown Yun has no Fight your Rival scenes with Chun, so while it could happen, there isn't any scenes or dialogue to pull information from. Street Fighter V Let's take a look at all of the Chun encounters in everyone's character story and A Shadow Falls. Chun-Li's character story takes place during her Alpha years, so this adds some more depth to her alpha story Chun-Li Character Story Chun-Li vs Vega 1 - Result: LOSS Chun's first fight with Vega ends with him injuring her arm before retreating as seen in the post match scene Chun-Li vs Nash - Result: DRAW Chun-Li holds her own against Nash, but is unable to defeat him for long. Nash does this to demonstrate that if Chun can't take him out, her chances against M. Bison wouldn't be great Chun-Li vs Vega 2 - Result WIN Chun manages to overpower Vega and was about to question him before he spills about the death of her father. That hesitation was enough to allow Vega to retreat. Birdie Character Story Birdie vs Chun-Li - Result: LOSS Another embarassing loss for Chun. She tries to arrest him for suspicion of Shadaloo activities, but Birdie fends her off and runs away. A Shadow Falls Chun-Li vs M. Bison - Result: LOSS This wasn't really fair. M. Bison powerful already but got a significant buff thanks to the Black Moons. M. Bison not only squashed her, but nearly killed her and possibly injured her (see next fight) Chun-Li vs Rashid - Result: LOSS While I do believe Chun-Li is a better fighter than Rashid, she was clearly injured and hurt from her last fight with M. Bison, so Rashid was able to take advantage of that to beat Chun-Li and take her piece. Chun-Li vs FANG - Result: WIN Chun-Li beats FANG to rescue Li-Fen Street Fighter III Chun-Li vs Urien - Result: WIN It is possible Urien wasn't going all-out, and only wanted to see Chun demonstrate her skills. But even still, Urien holding back would still be an incredibly tough opponent. And the fact that Chun-Li could hold her own enough to rescue Li-Fen deserves a win, even if it didn't result in a KO. TLDR: Chun-Li's record 9 wins, 10 losses, 11 draws/unknowns
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