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So Rose and Bison don't share the same soul...BECAUSE
 
 
it has always been said that Rose and Bison shared the same soul and had a master-pupil relationship 😐
 
 
@CESTUS IIItoday's a good day to send a complaint to Capcom huh mate ? 😃

@Lord_Vega
Here we are, may find this interesting 😄
 
About Tonpeti/Tonpetty as the kind Master who's able to see future and using this skill to warn his students about dangerous future:
"Tonpetty is a wise, world-worn man who shows great concern for others. He warned Zeppeli about how his training would seal his fate but was not forceful about it."
 
"As a Ripple master, Tonpetty has trained multiple people in the art of the Ripple. He is the only character shown to be able to predict the future of someone just by touching their hands, displaying a high level of skill. "
 
About Straizo as inspiration for Bison possible being a Soul Power user who got corrupted and gone to the opposite side to reach power and immortality:
"Straizo explained that he trained in the Ripple to become stronger, but his powers only made him even more aware of his human limitations[7]. He admits having admired Dio's overwhelming strength as a Vampire and when the Ripple proved insufficient to preserve his youth, he decided to use a Stone Mask. In his search for a way to stop his aging process, Straizo killed friends and followers. He was ready to die for it, which was demonstrated when he killed the expedition group, along with his disciples"
 
"All this time I planned on entering Hell while still vibrant and filled with energy, not as some withered desiccated corpse. I cannot tell you the ecstasy I have felt in being young again. "
 
He's also the one who have Master-Pupil relationship with Lisa Lisa (as Bison with Rose):
"Elizabeth (Lisa Lisa real name) was subsequently adopted by the Ripple user Straizo and learned the art of Ripple from him until her 18th birthday."
 
BONUS
Straizo's body get destroyed from the inside after his body got filled of opposite  kind of energy and clearly say to regret nothing, VERY similar to what happen to Bison in ASF

 
While i think is kinda beyond doubt (for all the parallel i mentioned before) Capcom dropped Menat & Maggio as counterpart/tribute to Caesar & Joseph, i find is cool that you mentioned this (another thing i read for the first time) because i think lead us to another parallel again that may further hint Straizo-Bison thing
 
Master Tonpeti indeed had 2 students before Straizo, who were Zeppeli and Dire
 
This discussion end up being cool af to me, story-wise i ever considered just Rose as being heavy inspired by JoJo, but digging a bit i'm realizing the whole (very very little) lore we have about Soul Power and Bison past seem to come from there too lol 😄

I would like to add the fact that Takayuki is quite adorable 🥺

Get that speech ready fam. I like what the new guys have done since they took over SFV but I'm not going to believe Capcom has got their shit together until I've seen it. On the bright side, they give me hope that Capcom wont fuck it up. I didn't have that before.

Necalli don't deserve to celebrate shit

Necalli don't deserve to celebrate shit

Well yeah true. This always happens with Capcom cause they have SOOOOOOOOOOO much damn potential when it comes to these characters and they give them the bare minimum 😤.  Idk maybe we should write our own lore 😔.

Fun thing is that while it surprised me too at first read about Ryu hanging with criminals, reality is we ever seen him do stuff like this

or get even more involved in various anime (non canon but well fitting the char) like SF2tAM or SF2V in more organized underground fighting circuits, so him being at least familiar with street level crime makes more sense than not lol
 
Plus Capcom (and many anime) offer bit naive/childish view of street level crime punks, portraying them more as chaotic people that don't follow rules than legit EVIL pieces of shit... good example is that most of them (think many Mad Gear members or Birdie) through years has been made less "criminal" and more goofy/caricature, to the point they seem more than anything misfits that struggle to fit society
 
Ryu is my fav character and may surprise i agree with you
I don't need most of them either
But i really like Gouken for his great old master design and uniqueness compared to the classic shoto, so would be my third pick after Ryu and Ken(done different as in SFV), who are a must to me
 
Necalli IS awesome
His design is great and his ancient aztec background could have offered SO MUCH as villain, if i can forget story (we go on that in the paragraph below) and stick to his concept he's still infinitely more interesting/exotic/different threat for Ryu than the endless cycle of boring stronk japan devil shoto bullshit Akuma capcom trapped us in for decades.
Twice if we think that they feel can't even let another Boss sell us that he's #1, because ten minutes after Akuma will pull a Yujiro Hanma and wreck him because nobody is stronk as stronk japan devil shoto. Damn.
 
Necalli deserved much more
Capcom is guilty of give him absolute shit writing, there was so much they could have done with him and they did that crap lol
 
 

Necalli don't deserve to celebrate shit

Oh yeah, it is proven that Ken gets some form of strength from his family. It's mostly highlighted throughout SFV

Necalli don't deserve to celebrate shit

Necalli don't deserve to celebrate shit

@BootyWarrior And @CESTUS IIIThanks a lot for the answers, it cleared a lot of stuff up. I'm glad this board has so many knowledgeable fans on the lore. 🙂 I particularly appreciated learning that Capcom's confirmed  Ken's family is actually a source of strength for him as  a fighter and Ryu does more than train 24/7.
 
The Goutetsu stuff is interesting because that completely changes my perception of Ryu and Akuma's relationship if he vaguely knew of him as  a fellow more advanced student before he "fell." Interesting that he refers to Goutetsu and Gouken as masters but Akuma as only Akuma. Could it mean he was only a student or is it being used to show Ryu's disgust for him? I'm guessing the latter, given he'd have been Gouki back then. Sorry, just spitballing.

At 1:33 you see Gouken finding Ryu next to a burning home
At 2:15 taking Ryu with himself
Yeah, the difference in terms of training time may not be big, Ken started under Gouken at 12
If anything is pretty likely that Ken had more fighting experience with other same age kids, as he was sent to Gouken's dojo because he was a scrappy boy (is when he dyed his hair blond, wich in japanese kids/teen culture was like declare you're some kind of hooligan/punk), while we don't even know if Ryu even knew other kids of his own age before Ken as the area where he was found/Gouken's dojo looked pretty rural/woods
 
Plus you have that Ken natural offensive style is something more immediate to learn compared to Ryu's defensive/counter approach

They way the contort themselves to make it seem like it's a good idea is laughable. "Well, we know Falke uses a staff but he can bring a different type of bojutsu to the table." Yeah, it's like there isn't another character, that isn't dead, that can do the same. I must of imagined Jianyu 👀

Ill go Jianyu than any dead character being revived haha

Wow thats was a surprissed no wonder we wont see that style for SF6 and other promotional materials again.

For people questioning how Alex can look like he does at 17. I present to you Brock Lesnar at 15 years old.

Charlette is entering the Rumble.....which means she'll win then go on to fight Becky to unify the belts. I don't mind the unification, I just don't want to see Charlotte win the Rumble or in the unific equation at all

I'd be very geatfull if you could send a download link to me in a message!
 
Regarding Kiki I've thaight so. I think I have his contact on instagram. Will send him a message and an invitation to join us here 😉

If you want any scans, i would be more than happy to send them to you and im still looking for SF3. Unfortunately there isn't a full picture of this, it's just a video which sucks. Probably need to make a petition so Kiki can turn this into one big ass wallpaper or some shit. 

I hope they would something like that for SF6 too. So that we can have new things to talk about here. Haha

I have some scans of All About Capcom Fighting Games that a friend gave me, and i can find SF3 for you and i don't know anything about Warzard but i can also find that for you. 

Two absurdly specific trivialities I've found on Twitter.
User  PLUS is playing with a camera to navigate SFV stages, and he found out that in Sakura's house her brother Tsukushi is INDEED playing SF's parody 龍拳剛記外伝 轟の章 Ryūken gōki gaiden - Kō no shō, "Dragon fist strong chronicle side story - the rumble chapter", as is written on his bio. Obviously the title plays with Ryu, Ken, Gouken and Gouki's names.
 

I also asked him to enlarge the Egyptian obelisks in Ring of Prosperity stage, because I wasn't sure whether the writings had a meaning or not.
It turns out Capcom just copied real hieroglyphics from somewhere, but the text is assembled randomly. The cartouches are both versions of Ramesses III's name, and immediately reveal the text is a forgery: in an Ancient Egyptian text, all hieroglyphics must face the same direction, but the figures inside the cartouches are oriented towards left when all other figures are facing right.