CESTUS III

Don't give much fucks but pic is cool

Know most of you people can't give less fucks about WTM character creation, but can't wait to see that moveset (mostly the normals, but maybe few specials too) on my Dudley lol 🤩 Btw cool to see desperation Lv3, that's new Thanks dude 👍

Btw wonder if this wink at likely-alive-Bosch with super short red hair seen at the end of WTM jogging with group Buckler trainee in MC -timestamped- ps: of course wanting to find contrary argument we could say we seen concepts like shaven/short hair Luke or bald Manon, but this feel being treated differently. It's not a small element to show how the model it's supposed to work, they made it basically as relevant as the other one with the Bosch look we know already. Plus in this very thread we was discussing if reddit theory is right (i believe it) and that's Bosch he currently have very short red hair, and here we are😁

I feel more sorry for myself that voted AngryBird at the Eternity shit, not sure if i need him to win whole thing or at least touch the top3 🤔 Fuck the tournament, hope to get my shiny color/costume/whatever for lucky bet 🕯️🙏🕯️

Tbh i love we got Ed trailer in advance I'm already bothered by the fact DLCs are chained to follow somehow their esports/events stuff, at least i got something to chew while waiting Not July Akuma is Spring 2024, wich is 20 March to 20 June So at worst Akuma teaser at June begin, trailer some days after and release before 20th Not even necessary so late, example Ed release almost a moth before the end of Winter 2024 My guess is Akuma may be released on late May/early June But does'nt help me much if i think i can't give less fucks about Akuma as char lol, so after i get Ed next interesting thing is Season 2 begin in August/September 🥲

My reasoning for it was simple While i hope Dudley (or at least Rog, wich sadly is more likely) will make it in SF6, traditionally SF had one pure boxer in each chapter, with the exception of SF4 arc SF1 Mike SF2 Rog SFA Rog SF3 Dudley SF4 Rog and Dudley SFV Rog SF6 Ed? My fear is that now that they made Ed a more "pure boxer" (something he was'nt in SFV) they may feel satisfied and consider boxing covered in SF6 On reality i think by the end of SF6 i'm 51% confident i will get either Dudley or Rog, but still that 49% concern me as despite giant improvement i still don't consider SF6 Ed an ideal boxing rep for a SF chapter Imho Dudley >>> Rog >>>>>> SF6 Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SFV Ed Not listing Mike as in ideal world Mike is just Rog lol

@Darc_RequiemOk finally collected the pics for my S.Raven , think it's easy to spot the electric suit trick (click for full size) Also updated my Decapre and chosen the costume for her, tried to make it fitting this SF6 artwork (click for full size)

Little note forgot to add (but said in the past many times), guess Rose-Bison relationship is based on JoJo's Lisa Lisa with Straizo Considering we know how much Rose was shameless ripped from Lisa Lisa, the coincidences are bit too many to be ignored lol Not so long, but after previous long ass post will put at least this under spoiler lol Add this here, hope it works as reply 😁 Dropped in this long ass post above everything i've found on the matter If you don't want to read it all, short version is Bison as some point was Soul Power user and the one to teach it to Rose. Bison had a Master that teached him and two other guys Psycho Power, but we have no indication so far it is or is'nt the same Master who also teached him Soul Power to begin with... after all Goutetsu was Master of both Gouken and Akuma, and they learned both types of ki from him (who was said to be able to use both) Yeah i think somebody in previous page found also another source supporting this iirc (or i'm making confusion with whole argument on Decapre lol) Btw if confirmed good news, i like SF to be made of normal people born from various countries, rather than get spam of lab experiments and then capcom making up their nationality with narrative excuses like Cammy's UK or Abel's France lol Wonder if Ed SF6 german flag is related to his place of birth or current place Falke had multiple connections to Germany, but whole capcom argument was some bullshit like "people in her area of Shadaloo base spoke german" or something like that lol

Just checked SF wiki (Rose's page) to see where if there's confirmation of her student-master relationship with Bison Found this Even if to be fair them saying "Psycho Power being the dark side of Soul Power" is'nt directly proven by these sources, but we have confirmation (Bison Page) Bison at some point was a Soul Power user, and that was even somehow critical about that it's effectiveness The wiki add that Rose's SP being connected to Bison's PP, made the former a compatible body host despite not being one of his clones, but they don't add source for it Then we are told that he murdered his master, who was said to be the only individual able to use Psycho Power (the idea of a SP master who can also use PP, imho mirror how Goutetsu could use normal hado ki, but also switch to SnH) who teached it to them Here's the thing Either at some point in late life he knew a different new master that teached him PP (and at this point Bison already was a SP master, enough skilled to teach SP to Rose), or the man who was his Soul Power master could handle also Psycho Power because are two side of same medal (as said before, kinda like Goutetsu case) Consider we never had info about Bison starting to follow a different/new master, i'm inclined to believe the latter case This is imho where corruption happened, Bison killed his Master and switched to the evil side of his ki, kinda like Akuma killed Goutetsu embracing SnH path I don't know how much the added source confirms it (specially considering back to SF2, capcom did'nt invented yet SP), but they came to similar conclusion insisting on PP being the "dark side" of SP An important one may be SF4 prologue where she claim to have "same power" as him, would be curious to know what words were used in the original japanese version though Then hope it's useful we have Oro (in his side reader story with Sim) saying that all form of ki are "connected" but we know in SF canon some types of ki are "more" connected to each other, as if the switch from one to other is more likely See how Ansatsuken techniques may lead to end up to fall into SnH if the individual get corrupted like happened to Akuma (similar reason Gouken kicked Dan out of the dojo) One interesting thing is that some of Rose's most iconic specials seem to remind concept behind Bison's ones, just some stuff i can think - Rose's Soul Spiral is a forward moving "drill" attack at opponent's chest, kinda like Bison's Psycho Crusher does - Rose's SFA throw (Soul Drain in SFV) kinda reminding how Devil Reverse have you attack opponent's head with your hands while being upside down above him -In SFV they both have fthrow involving use telekinesis to lift opponent before slam (Rose) or strike (Bison) him -They both have special to absorb or reflect projectiles, wich beside rare exceptions (Urien's Aegis, but works differently imho) is kinda unique trait -They both teleport, wich beside rare exceptions (Dhalsim does it with Yoga) is another rare skill and probably bunch more i'm forgetting😄 Also it's worth say that while we don't see Bison do it directly, we know (as Falke got it as one of the 4 Bison's abilities) he can fill objects of PP to deliver ki powered attacks This skill is the way Soul Power users fight (Rose he scarf, Menat her crystal ball and Maggio likely his yo-yo) Most of other Psycho Power chars do it too... Falke and JP their sticks, Decapre her blade Ed does'nt and use his hands, but that's because unlike Falke of the 4 Bison's abilities he got fill his own body with PP* and is unable to do same with objects, just like in theory Falke is unable to use her body to generate PP JP in some way seems to have all 4 listed traits that the 4 Neo Shadaloo chars got: PP from the body (rare but does it), PP through object, Teleport, Superior intellect(?) That's more or less same for Rose, she can use SP with her hands (rare but does it), SP through object, Teleport, and she posses special mental abilities such as future telling The two types of ki/fighting styles sharing many points and similarities is important to connect them, as we know style wise Capcom does the same with normal hado ki next to SnH *wonder if beside him being the one who found Ed, Rog was allowed to be his master... guess knowing wich power he gave to Ed, Bison thought of his current generals (Rog, Vega and later FANG) Rog was the one more qualified to teach an hand-to-hand type fighting, since Vega rely also on his claw and FANG on his poison. Cool thing not only make me wonder again if JP was one who teached her la canne style back in Shadaloo HQ days And if we go even more back if indeed Vega played a role at teach Decapre how to fight with these wrist blades (maybe the many slash scars in one of SF4 concepts were supposed to be the result of harsh lessons?) and reason she was made wear a metal mask to cover scars, wich as we said some pages ago could have been easily a Vega's idea

I think it's supposed to show him briefly losing hold on Psycho Power He does it also in a win (mid rounds) cutscene Had the thought when we see the purple/azure mix colors is supposed to mean his ki is somehow the expression of his natural energy/good side as azure Soul Power, mixed wih the purple Psycho Power that was put inside him After all origin of Bison's Psycho Power was being a Soul Power master that got corrupted... so maybe Ed being a Bison clone (so starting from the base that still was'nt corrupted) may natural develop Soul Power type of ki? Btw in this specific case* guess the full white eyes are supposed to suggest Ed risk to lose himself into PP kinda like Bison did in the past Think visually the origin was Yasunori Kato showing his "oni face" *said this specific case because bunch of very different characters in SF got full white eyes without ever touch Psycho shit like Dhalsim, Rolento, Gen, Sagat and guess more lol I'm curious to see desperate version of his Lv3 Trailer one mix purple and blue, but i believe when pushed close to lose all health (desperate Lv3) Ed will change mood and ki color

I find it funny too, mostly because it's hard give "Shadaloo" any positive meaning, considering while we don't have official origin/meaning of the word guess the "shadow" part is at least hinted. Not sure how confirmed is the "shadowlaw" thing as original meaning, but i like it as give great sense of obscure dictatorship But overall i like it, specially if as we expect Ed will end up corrupted and Neo Shadaloo even starting with best intentions will end up be something evil/negative Guess the point may be that they understand Psycho Power is bad, but they're still willing to use it because it's what make them powerful so they don't renounce use it, and try to defend their choice with others (and themselves?) saying "yeah, but we will do good stuff with it) It's like name itself have been picked "wrong" from the start, as to suggest how much naive is think you can use an evil source to do good things

That's cool, thanks Yeah i'm no genetist either, but ever thought for narrative needs of anime karate fantasy they will just dumb down and simplify stuff, to give "explanation" to things that even if don't make much sense in real world science make sense in SFV universe/lore For that reason i ever thought the blond/blue eyes is kinda implied "rule" they apply on character design of Bison's DNA (Cammy, Abel, Ed, Falke) Curious thing is eyes color are one of few elements to differentiate Decapre (green in SF4, amber in SFV/SF6) from Cammy's blue ones Yeah i think also for simply physical abilities, they need them to reach fast some level of athleticism too Btw regardless if is age or PP growing inside him like a cancer, seems clear SF6 Ed's amount of ki is huge compared to SFV days Think how easily Urien squashed with one hand the psycho shot you mentioned, watch now similar size ki sphere causing huge explosion in SF6 😆 (timestamped)

What i love most of that symbol is how many layers to read it have Example the thunder is same that was on skull forehead So having it as a Shadaloo symbol, the second thunder of NS emblem being carved, an hole like a crack on shadaloo's thunder it's like symbolize Shadaloo's destruction Also the owl (wisdom/enlightment?) is cool because they literally used as base the old symbol (round owl's body more or less where the skull was) trying to turn it into something good Another thing that got me intrigued it's how ambiguous is JP's golden pin, seem can be wink at NS owl, but unlike Ed's owl it's not clear and could be something else (i would say a bat) SF can truly be cool with emblems, i remember also Kolin/Helen emblem mixing Gill with a version of Kiev's coat of arms in SFV Another interesting is SF6 symbol of Masters Foundation wich imply kinda hard that the society (and even Ken possibly, as he wear it) is part of Freemasonry lol wich due the compass wink hard at freemasonry real world symbol

Well, when i showed the flicker jab of this Mashiba guy that's from where they took the idea for Ed's new long jabs, that's from Hajime no Ippo😁 He must have appreciated the wink at his masterpiece Maybe he also like Ed's overall appearance, after all Eagle who was super important char in Hajime no Ippo (2nd strongest boxer) look bit the same lol

Tbh i have hard time imagine Rog being anything but super bitter sore loser talking about Dudley... specially considering during SF3 Dudley was covered of gold while Rog was an has been getting beated at vintage mma tournaments Would talk trash about Dudley even 10 years after getting his shit beated up Maybe if Dudley die first, watching his grave and after bunch of insults Rog would tell something like "...but you could fight, i give you that" If nobody is there to listen, of course 😆 Wich lead us to Murata being a god Literally ONLY thing that ruined my 99% happiness at Ed becoming pure boxing char, is that i fear Dudley may see his chances to sneak in lowered by dev team feeling they did the boxing thing already Maybe if he was still very hybrid with kicks and shit they would be more encouraged to make Dudely return Even if considering SF6 urban style and Ed in, is possible Rog would have been picked over Dudley again 🤔

But he wear Neo Shadaloo symbol on his standard SF6 design Maybe not best pic to show it but above the owl on the back and on the badge on his chest you can see a symbol made of two thunders (one big of metal, second smaller carved as an hole in the first), wich are rotated in a way that first horizontal look like a stylized "N" and second vertical as a "S", the initials of Neo Shadaloo 😁

We have no idea what caused her face scar, but we know it's not skin anomaly caused by creation gone wrong (IF was created), as we have vid confirming at some point when she was young she had no scars on her face (timestamped) I'm more inclined to consider it a scar, also because in some concept sketches they considered various types of scars and seems clear were meant to show she went through violent shit The one that became canon to me seem burning type, some were more like slashes cuts Guess if somebody can translate the notes we may gain some new info on that I think could have been easily because Shadaloo test hard af their members even before the battlefield, see example how Abel gone through LOT of shit (maybe the SF char with most scars) likely because canon wise he was considered very expendable Is possible Decapre being seen as less useful than Cammy had harder time too Idk i think they took Decapre and cloned her adding Bison's DNA to the mix, so Cammy end up having blue eyes as all other characters that have been confirmed to have Bison's DNA (Abel, Ed, Falke) Also not being a clone would not have saved her from go through super harsh training, we know they do it on regular people too, see example how hard Birdie was tested even if he was already estabilished as powerful fighter that Shadaloo knew since SFA days

Fun thing considering he trained Ed, Rog have lot of swarmer too... two boxers wich styles remind me Rog the most are Tyson (of course lol) and Marciano, both were considered swarmers (even if Tyson peek a boo was harder to fit in a box) What crack me up is Ed learning from Rog lot of tricks we never seen Rog himself do, as if Rog (usually shown as brainless brute) have more deep boxing knowledge than we thought, but fight like he does because fit himself best But is also possible Ed looked also elsewhere to learn boxing... curious fact is if we want give importance to the look of things, Ed boxing IMPROVED (and became more "pure") AFTER leaving Rog lol Ps: kinda random but seem right post to comment how awesome both SF6 Ed throws are Both as execution and concept wise

That's interesting thanks Personally i would much prefer him being regular human with origins, rather than one more "product", so i hope you're right lol I think was the contrary, iirc Decapre is older than Cammy as Decapre was the kidnapped one while Cammy was a clone of her with the addition on Bison's DNA... wich i guess is why Cammy have blue eyes? That was also the story making me think Ed was a clone, as we know he have some Bison's DNA... so i ever thought ones with Bison's DNA were born with it, not that was "added" later Other thing was him having faster aging in common with Cammy and Abel, wich was one lore feature of shadaloo's clones... but maybe the addition of Bison's DNA may cause it? New SF6 description is kinda tricky at that because could be used for both scenario (the experiments can have been one through life or while creating him) Thought that too, but guess if they want use ASF HQ ruins as location they can just pretend not whole structure went destroyed and call it a day, i will no be much surprised lol Yeah, shit was crazy May be wrong but i think canon wise in SF6 is possible we still did'nt seen yet the "NS uniform Ed" that was standard design, and that he will get there after the SF6 Ed we seen in new trailer Like the true "SFV Ed" was the younger one in white hoodie that abandoned Rog, is only when he became playable that they made him older/bigger and yet that version was straight wrong as it directly conflict with official ending art Like the one defeating/abandoning Rog was still younger/skinny ASF Ed on reality, even if we play that moment as muscle Ed In theory was still young white hoodie Ed when he found Falke So i think he may have found her right after defeating/abandoning Rog, like on his way while leaving the base... that or they knew each other before his split from Rog and that caused his decision/change of mind After all ASF Ed seems fine to work/live with Rog, we see clearly at some point he even tell Rog they could go together to work for somebody else (wich leaded to them meeting Urien)

Not sure we have definitive answer but Very first time we see him was in a shadaloo lab and already had shadaloo logo on his hand, combined with faster-aging (till physical prime) is a clones feature in SF lore i would say he's likely to be another clone made using Bison's mysterious blond/blue eyes dna Example i don't think Dolls had faster aging, as they were "just" kidnapped, powered-up and brainwashed normal girls Btw the head bandage he had in first encounter with Rog make me guess he just got in recent times gone under some sort of surgery to add Psycho Power into his body, the way he show it seems very unintentional Last i guess Bison's hat there is straight wink at ASF SFV story, where there was a scene specifically showing Chun Li observing that hat abandoned on the ground -timestamped- Wonder if this may hint Ed's lab stage actually is in SFV Shadaloo ASF HQ, going further with the theory the german flag (SF6 Ed) may mean the HQ was in Germany... we know as canon thing Falke got german language influence from staff working there (while Ed may have dodged that as was basically raised by Rog) One thing bit strange is Ed actually abandoned the base (and Rog) in his SFV story, maybe he did'nt went much far from it? Big hand on background may be the one that was holding the earth globe in 4 kings stage

Bit nice things Dude learned Mashiba's flicker jab I think twice in two different situations (idle stance and Lv1 animation) he does the Ali shuffle lol Beside using opponent as punching bag in Lv3, also the small psycho ball/elastic psycho rope shit he does in his win cutscene is essentially Dude can make a boxing gym using ki 😆 Last the more i see him the more i think they may build him up to fight Luke (more precisely Ken vs JP and Luke vs Ed), they're crazy if they don't lol

Bit nice things Dude learned Mashiba's flicker jab I think twice in two different situations (idle stance and Lv1 animation) he does the Ali shuffle lol Beside using opponent as punching bag in Lv3, also the small psycho ball/elastic psycho rope shit he does in his win cutscene is essentially Dude can make a boxing gym using ki 😆 Last the more i see him the more i think they may build him up to fight Luke (more precisely Ken vs JP and Luke vs Ed), they're crazy if they don't lol

Wow, they turned Ed into actual pure boxing rep (well, beside psycho power lol), dude did'nt threaw a kick in the whole vid New (old) stage looks pretty cool, even if not what i was hoping for Speaking chara design the model looks pretty good, but in particular the redesign of his SFV generic white hoodie alt is really excellent, bravi Absolutely love this, hated his controls in SFV

Wow, they turned Ed into actual pure boxing rep (well, beside psycho power lol), dude did'nt threaw a kick in the whole vid New (old) stage looks pretty cool, even if not what i was hoping for Speaking chara design the model looks pretty good, but in particular the redesign of his SFV generic white hoodie alt is really excellent, bravi Absolutely love this, hated his controls in SFV

Cool to have something to look at while waiting 27 Wonder if we will see his stage too or if they will save it as release "surprise"