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1 hour ago, CESTUS III said:

Yeah, it's like Dolls are made of 2 layers

 

Base: a standard minimum level of physical/athletic prowess and hand-to-hand fighting skill that as enhanced soldiers they ALL possess, including Aprile, Marz and Enero.

So NONE of the Dolls is weak, but at same time that make just them superior to average goon. To use an example i did before, Marz(probably the weakest) can still be dropped in Metro City streets and alone beat up bunch of basic FF goons, who are still supposed to be stronger/tougher than average man

 

Advanced: the actual specialization they're truly elite at, and those who have it about actual fighting (hand-to-hand or weapons) may be able/decent chance to beat lowest levels of main cast... but again it's big question mark as Birdie seems weak af in SFV canon and still defeated 2 of them in the only two fights he got, one of wich against Fevrier who's a "battle type" kind of Doll.

To be fair Fevrier being a firearm user is'nt at her best playing close range/direct type of fight, but at same time it's not like they started the fight grappling, she even got free shot to fire at him and he just blocked bullets with chains... from there was up to her keep fight at her comfort distance, wich she failed

 

Given what ASF gave us, to guess how Dolls measure next to SF cast good question would be if/wich Dolls would haved decent chance to defeat Birdie in a "fair" 1v1 fight, my guess is probably less than half of them

 

Tbh i'm not sure how we should consider them, but overal i agree with you

One side i feel like canon wise their real threat potential was as team like in their first appearance, and that they got elevated as "worth of a slot" fighters only because... it was easy, all the (mostly recycle) sprite work was done

Like, at that point you created them, they become cheap way to add characters on the console version.

Sure they were unlockable in Arcade too but there were essentially "bonus" characters there if you get what i mean

 

On other hand as team they did'nt operated as regular opponent, but as SUB BOSS, wich mean that despite their obvious 2v1 advantage they at least offered to your character a challenge higher (not just equal) than normal fight against another from main cast

So question is how they would fare 1v1 against SFers and reality is we don't know... iirc back to SFA3 both missions they got were just about track down characters, no idea if they even officially fought anybody

 

Skipping to SFV we know that Juli got her ass whooped by a Cammy that was likely holding back a bit (no shame, Decapre is more powerful and got same result), but SF cast offer a decent amount of characters that are weaker than Cammy and may be in her range

 

To use same example of before i guess Juli/Juni have decent chance of defeat/draw with Birdie 1v1

 

 

Well i personally think Juni and Juli can hold their own. Sometimes Juli is said to be weaker than Juni due to her um...you know those circles she has on her chest? Yes those, so they be getting in the way sometimes so it makes it somewhat difficult for her to fight but then again you have Birdie and Laura with massive breasts and yet they do just fine. Also, it seems that Juni has Akuma’s fighting data (i wonder why he isn't listed as a rival) so i guess this is why Juni has the upper hand between the two. 

Happy New Years guys! This is a little late but in this short period of time but love you all and thanks for the contributions you've all helped me with 🥰.

Quick question, so i was reading the scans from the All About Capcom Fighting Games Book and i was reading about the SF characters, and I got confused about the titles of the games, mainly " スト Ⅱ, スト II ダッシュ,スト Ⅱ ターボ, スパ Ⅱ, スパ ⅡX". I usually acknowledge each game by its full name instead of abbreviations so those are kind of confusing for me. (This may be a wrong choice of words but )

5 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

Tbh i may be one of the few that liked the change, one of core points of SF character design is that with subtle or big elements they ever try to give each character a distinctive body type... despite being similar size big body characters fat Birdie have pretty unique build next to Zangief (they was different also back to SFA, but now much more), i like how their build reflect theyr lifestyle: Gief is obsessed with training 24/7, while Birdie still lift (he mention that in one quote) to keep strenght, but beside that he pass time either eating or being a lazy fuck

 

I'm ok with it, at the end he still looks strong af, to some extent remind a bit some strongmen

 

But more than that back in the old forum i pointed out that new SFV Birdie is heavily inspired on Bob Sapp, who's a gigantic black MMA fighter (who was ripped af for a 170kg man) super known/loved in Japan and gone through similar body transformation getting older, see below

 

Even lot of his SFV face expressions and food gimmicks seem to come from Bob

 

Notice these were commercials in japan, so capcom people were familiar with them

 

We almost even had white suit alt for Birdie wich could have been another reference lol

 

Last but not last fat era Sapp became notorious to be the kind that takes a dive and give no fucks about lose, he would essentially accept big pay fights and then just drop at very first minimal hit to call it a day relatively unharmed and still grab money lol.

Would not be surprised if even this influenced a bit SFV jobber Birdie, who does'nt care anymore about being a fighter (or have ambitions, like he was in SFA) but just want take advantage of riches to get his belly full

 

I find it cool, when SF dive hands in fight world (combat sports, martial arts, pro-wrestling etc) to get inspirations is best SF to me

Hey, this is actually interesting to read bc I never really thought about it like that but this is really interesting. Speaking of Birdie, ima go translate his profile since i have nothing else better to do

7 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

Well, his body hint that he let himself go since the alpha days (or pro-wrestling days) and his whole character in SFV his about being lazy fuck who can think only about next meal, but i doubt he regressed much... after all his main traits ever been strength/power and with the extra weight he may even improved at these

 

Adult Karin of SFV is just too good for him, her using him as 24/7 dummy for sparring sounds about right... he can take the damage and he's strong/insidious enough to offer good level of treath for basic daily training, but he's more the kind of exercise that keep her in shape rather than the real occasional challenge that make her improve

 

Tbh glad he cover that punchbag role because i think that having somebody else doing it helped Zangief get all the long waited and well deserved respect he finally got in SFV, they had Birdie to make technical/speedy/small character shine over a big brute lol

 

And even Birdie can't complain much, i seen nothing outrageous (beside his belly lol) as while he's being portrayed inferior to characters that are indeed superior to him and he lack a relevant win (like vs a main cast char, unless we count knock Chun on her ass to avoid arrest a serious fight/W, i don't) he did'nt been "sold" much, in ASF only time we seen him get knocked out has been by suckerpunch (kick/knee) from behind... not much shame on that

They even had the chance to use him as jobber vs Ibuki (who's still kinda weak in SFV) and instead they made some sort of draw over it, he really can't complain lol

 

Yeah, in the trivia they said his weight gain is remiscent of wrestlers letting themselves go after they retired and as an avid wrestling lover....i can confirm this. And the outrageous thing is his booger can actually damage a character's health bar, even tho it barely does shit 😭 .

1 hour ago, CESTUS III said:

I said i expected him MORE acrobatic, not that would bother me 😄

Similarity with Zangief does'nt have much sense, yeah they're both pro-wrestlers and are part of same club ("Muscle Soul Fighters Club") but beyond that they should give him his own original stuff, we don't really need a third lariat user after Haggar and Zangief lol

They could have gone for a pro wrestler big dude version of Rashid style, wind powers and spinning stuff

 

But all of this is really minimal problem, i doubt he will become a playable char in SF6 tbh

 

Being weak next to a SF main cast character =/= being weak, SFers are exceptional individuals

Example while very low in the SF food chain Birdie is still immensely strong compared to normal people, dude fucked up a train back to the alpha days lol

For what's worth for the little period he's been in Shadaloo in V, he was likely the physically strongest guy in the whole org

 

Even Dan is incredibly powerful and tough next to normal people, like you can drop him in some Final Fight street and he will be able to fuck up dozens of hardened criminals lol (most of dolls would probably defeat Dan though, he's still joke character)

 

For how i ever seen Cammy/Decapre are true SF level ones (meaning they have decent chance 1v1 against main SF cast) and are indeed considered the superior members of the dolls group, rest is at least a step below to various degrees and like ASF showed they're likely to lose most 1v1 clashes against main cast.

Again one of the "weakest" characters, Birdie, defeated two of them... one of wich (Fevrier) was specialized in combat situations

Consider Cammy is clearly superior to all of them, and she's not particular strong in the SF food chain either

 

In terms of pure potential i think Satsuki and Noembelu are more or less at same level, or maybe not but so far we have no way to say wich would win a 1v1

She's great with her katana, is said to be skilled also in hand-to-hand and on general she's specialized on fighting

 

Also Santamu as weapon user seems the fighting type too, but iirc was described somewhere more like a spy, while Noembelu/Satsuki have more "warrior" head on role, so would place them bit above her

 

That's true

See Aprile who despite being the medic of the group (and probably one of the weakest ones at fighting) still can make Birdie giant 200+kg ass flying with a single side kick wich even stunned him a bit... even if she attacked him from behind and he was'nt expecting it, it still show ridicolous power, specially considering she's a  kinda little 50something kg girl herself

 

I guess this thread proves that Birdie has been getting his ass beat by some 46kg girls, these years haven't been going so well for him lately 😪. 

14 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

@CESTUS IIINoembelu is the "muscle" of the dolls. She's physically the strongest of the group. Based on how they portray her she'd probably beat any doll besides Decapre/Cammy in a one on one fight. Juli/Juni and Xiayu/Jianyu are both implied to be at their best in pairs. After Noembelu it gets kind of dicey on a solo tier list While. Juli & Juni are more efficient as a pair. They'd have to be dangerous on their own, otherwise Bison would have chose different body guards. They'd have to be better as a pair than Xiayu/Jianyu because those two weren't chosen to be Bison's personal guard.

 

Edit: @sKreetFighteZEven the weaker dolls have to be competent fighters. Remember there are tiers of dolls. And all of the calendar dolls are at the elite of the elite.

Yeah, i understand what you're tryna get at, I just thought the Dolls would have been portrayed in a different way. I still love the Dolls nonetheless. 

27 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

That's pretty cool, i ever LOVE read info about fighters that are part of SF Universe outside playable cast, make the world feel bigger and not limited to same few characters spammed over and over

 

Strange  see it's supposed to be some sort of mini-zangief (he's much lighter built), considering he's Rashid's master ever thought about a more acrobatic big dude style, more like T.Hawk

 

She's ever been my favourite of the dolls (wich tbh i never liked much as group), specially now that T.Hawk seems ever more destined to not be in playable cast she may be SF next native american rep

She also seems quite powerful for how she quickly handled Birdie even if by cheap shot... sure, SFV Birdie is weak (of the cast guess canon wise only Dan is worse) but still he defeated other weaker dolls like Aprile and Fevrier

Gave the impression she's the toughest of the dolls (maybe not counting Decapre)

It's my favorite part about SF, however if Capcom does a little exploration of what some of the unplayable can do, i think it would be something great. And yes, i don't mind Azam having a little inspiration from Zangief as it does shows the connection between the two the same way Ryu and Ken have similar fighting styles but have ways you can tell them apart. A little acrobatics won't harm anyone, it's kinda similar to Rashid too. 

The Dolls are okay as a group, but sometimes Capcom doesn't take much opportunity to display what they can do personally (especially the weapon users). Also, Noembelu is described as the physically strongest of all the Dolls and the Dolls powerhouse, so what better way to show it is by taking out ANOTHER POWERHOUSE of sorts...a gluttonous one at that. And that's one thing that concerns  me, in the AAC and the wiki, they are portrayed as one of Bison's elites so the fact that they are being shown as weak is a little off given the fact that they have rigorous training sessions and Bison's dislike for incompetent subordinates, this is a litte odd. 

After receiving what could possibly be the most greatest christmas gift ever awhile ago by @Lord_Vega here's Ryu's bio from the SF5CE Guide. 

真の強さを求め修行を続ける格闘家 。礼儀正しく誠実な性格で ､ 自分より強い相手と闘うために世界を旅する 。己の中に生まれたもう一つの存在 、「 殺意 の 波動 」と闘い続け 、その力をコントロールするために日々精進を重ねている 。

A martial artist who continues his training in search of true strength. He is truly sincere in manner and personality, and travels the world seeking to fight against stronger opponents than himself. He continues to fight against the “Surge of Murderous Intent”, another entity that been born within himself.
 

It's a little late as he came in with more new stuff for me to look at, however please enjoy and feel free to revise it if any mistakes should be seen. 

46 minutes ago, Lord_Vega said:

 

 

STREET FIGHTER V CHAMPION EDITION STYLE GUIDE PART 2

And to think i was just about to post Ryu's translations from this guide lol 😭, you came in just at the right time 😁 .

All 3 of them had the potential to become something great in SF5, unfortunately Capcom didn't take the chance to show off what they could do in the story mode so their playstyles are left up to our imaginations 😪. However I do recall Takayuki Nakayama posting on his twitter regarding Azam's fighting style. 

From what i could get from these photos, it appears that Azam has similar moves to Zangief. It make sense given the fact that he used to be a pro wrestler similar to Zangief. 

Also, according to this post, it also appears that Noembelu may have a preference for fighting with both axes and sickles as weapons, so Noembelu has a nice amount of potential along with the twin sisters Xiayu and Jianyu, as Xiayu has her nunchakus and Jianyu has her bō staff.

4 hours ago, mykka said:

It was such a wasted opportunity. However something tells me we'll see Noembelu again in the future.

I mean you see Noembelu standing in front of Laura like they were bouta square up but they never did 

2 hours ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

This one took me over a week to watch and write up. Also factoring the Holiday weekend. But here you go. 

 

STREET FIGHTER CHARACTER STORY TIERLIST - by Chun-Li_Forever

 

 

Factors:

• importance to main lore,
• any ties to current/past lore,
• character development,
• meaningful interactions
• emotional stakes
• personal enjoyment

 

Ryu - Even being Street Fighter's poster boy,  Ryu's character story felt dull, uninspired, and safe (much like Ryu's character himself). Though the actualization of the Power of Nothingness wouldn't be seen until ASF, Ryu's story mode does very little to foreshadow any of it.

 

Ken - Liked the callback to Ken's Alpha ending, and the quick scene before Ken's fight with Ryu. Wished we could see more of what their relationship was like at that time. A little bummed we don't get to see a little more modest Ken at Karin's party. Wished there was some tie-in to ASF, like maybe we see him eating with Mel and Eliza at another table across from Ibuki and Birdie in SFV.

 

Chun-Li - Will try to keep my Chun-Li bias in check. I loved how this is the starting point of Chun-Li transitioning to a motherly role, you see her concerned, caring, and kind side of her within the first few minutes. Sweet and wholesome interactions with Li-Fen, especially the hair tying bonding them together. I would've loved to see some of Chun-Li's insecurities of being a mom, seeing as this is her first time too. Maybe she's nervous about not only protecting Li-Fen from any leftover danger after Shadaloo's dissolvement. Or maybe she's nervous of wanting to be as good of a mom as her father was to her when she was growing up.

Flashback scene takes place Pre-Alpha, when Chun was still a rookie Interpol Agent. You can hear her more emotional and headstrong than what she is now. And the flashback of her story does stay consistent with her lore. Vega does mention of her father's death, and in Chun's Alpha endings when she beat the final boss: M. Bison, he confirms he was the one who killed him. Really wished she, Guile, and Charlie had more of an "official" introduction. It felt short and impersonal. Guile and Charlie are two of Chun's closes allies, so I feel their first meeting would be a little more important.

Overall, it's a good character story that gives Chun-Li a little more depth in her new role as a mom, and as a rookie. Unlike most character stories with the initial roster, Chun-Li's story is a direct result of ASF, so we only see the significance of her character story AFTER playing ASF. And it sets up beautifully for what's to come in 3rd Strike.

 

Cammy - I thought it was a decent story mode. It sets up Cammy's main goal of saving the Shadaloo Dolls in ASF. I think my only critique with it is that I wish they made Cammy's motivations a little more personal, rather than have FANG's dialogue serve as exposition. Like maybe a USF4 prologue soliloquy would've served nicely. But Juni and Cammy's scenes were my favorites of her story mode. Loved seeing Juni adjusting to normalcy since Cammy's USF4 ending. And her scenes after her fight with Vega felt much more personal.

 

Nash - I feel Nash's story did the job it was supposed to. It's been years since he was last playable in an SF game, so reacquainting him through his retconned Alpha story was a safe choice. And it sets him up for ASF consistently. They never explain why Kolin sent Nash on a side-mission to confront Ed and FANG though.

 

M. Bison - Both of M. Bison's fights are flashback fights: his encounter with Charlie Nash, and  FANG failed attempted assassination. While the first fight is an Alpha retcon, the second provides some insight of how FANG was recruited into Shadaloo (more details in FANG's story). Loved the touch how in Lair of the 4 Kings, Sagat's facial monument still resides before FANG became his replacement. The last scene does a great job in giving us a small scope of Operation CHAINS, and what kind of threat we'd be expecting in ASF. Personally, I'd love if they gave M. Bison one more fight, like maybe against Chun-Li in the Alpha days, or maybe against Rashid as an early encounter before ASF. But overall, it was an okay story mode but it did wet the appetite for the ASF main course. 

 

Vega - I'm pretty sure Vega's first fight with Cammy is a retcon to his Alpha 3 ending, but I'm not 100% sure if that's confirmed. The only relevant things in Vega's story is FANG foreshadowing in using Bison's Psycho Power to power up the dolls that we'd see in the final act of ASF. It also ties in with Cammy's character story as well. But other than that, Vega's story just doesn't feel too important in the grand scheme of things.

 

Birdie - So much has happened since we last saw Birdie. He was a Shadaloo punk and grunt before, but several years and several hundred pounds later, he's broken free and got himself a more respectable jobber's job as Karin's... punk and grunt? All this because he didn't want to wear a Shadaloo henchmen issued hat... cool.
I do think Birdie's fight with Chun-Li felt a little random, what would've added more is if Chun-Li and/or Birdie recalled their Alpha 3 Fight-Your-Rival dialogue/scene they had. But the SFV encounter felt lacking. I did find his "initiation" into the Kanzuki family very funny though.
While Birdie's story does little in the grand scheme of the overall lore of ASF, this is a good character story for Birdie's character. 

 

Karin - Personally, I would've loved a character story of Karin  becoming the head of the Kanzuki Zaibatsu. Last we saw her, she was a high school girl, and now she's a boss lady. I'd love to see how she inherited that title, and if there were any power or personal struggles that came with it. Maybe some of those insecuruties could've lead Karin to be a stronger leader, instead of her being a complete Mary Sue for all ASF.
Karin's character story feels like a "Adventures of Karin and Friends" filler-episode kind of vibe. So it doesn't do anything that adds to the current, previous, or future lore. It's just a showcase to show how Godly Mary Sue of a character Karin is. It's ridiculous, and your entertainment of this might vary with this one. But it's a decent reintroduction to Karin after so many years.

 

Zangief - If anything Zangief's personality made this much more enjoyable. Its a shame since Zangief was never too important in any of the significant SF stories and plots, most of his stories are gonna feel like side-stories/filler. His character story mode doesn't add any new developments. R. Mika does become his protoge, but I assumed she's always been since he saved her from falling debris in SF Alpha 3. I also wished for Azam to be playable, I'd love to see what kind of new things we can learn from their kinship previously.

 

R. Mika - I was a little irritated with R. Mika and her voice and enthusiasm when the game first came out. But its grown on me. And to be honest, I feel that Mika's enthusiasm and energy, as well as showing great promise in the art of Muscle Spirit, does enough to carry her story mode to a passing grade, at least everything before her sphat with Ibuki. It gets extra points for showing her and Gief wrestling a bear for a bit, though I would've liked Mika to have held her own against the bear instead of having Zangief toss it away like it was nothing. That way, it would feel like things would come full circle for Mika since her Alpha 3 ending when Zangief saved her. Also, Birdie's dialogue in this made me laugh pretty good.

 

Dhalsim - Personally, I was bored with Dhalsim's story mode. He's always been a sage person, offering wisdom and advice to fellow fighters in his win quotes. So him teaching a new student in Yoga doesn't feel it adds anything to his character. Plus, there is barely any relation to any ongoing story plots. Dhalsim's story boils down to him teaching the power of Yoga, and he gets interrupted by Rashid, Mika, and Oro. 

 

Rashid - I think his character story was sort of a missed opportunity to set up the more important moments of ASF, which is a shame, considering he's one of the more main characters of the cinematic story anyways. He knows his missing friend (who has yet to be f***ing named) had ties with Shadaloo, and he did get a piece from her. But I wish she'd left behind some clue about its use, or about Operation CHAINS, or something about Shadaloo's grand plan. The info we got in Rashid's cahracter story in regards to the main plot is miniscule at best. It's just a story of Rashid beating up Birdie for info, and then getting his ass beat by Ryu to show he's still not yet strong enough. 

 

Laura - It's a showcase of her personality, and the ending scene does tie into her's, Zaangief's, Mika's and Alex's first appearance in ASF, but that's all her story mode has got going for her. I did like the bit with her and Sean. But Laura's story inclusion is hardly significant, and her character story makes her feel incredibly one-note.

 

F.A.N.G -  If there was one character that got the best treatment with both their character story AND cinematic story, it was FANG. With his character story, we got insightful and surprisingly dark backstory: implying that he was kidnapped as a child and forced to undergo rigorous tests and training until the sole survivor becomes the new FANG. And in the same story, FANG goes from lone surviving assassin to Shadaloo's 2nd in command. And its consistent with M. Bison's character story.
I do think 2 of the same Bison fights in a row feels stale, and the 2nd should've been a harder difficulty, have Bison have infinite VT, or have Bison be completly invincible, and the only way to win is to survive until the time runs out.
Other than that, in a mere 5 minutes, we get FANG's backstory on his origins, how he rose to power, and his scummy personality for his own survivability.

 

Necalli - His character story is more of a narrated prophecy, rather than an origin story. And while ASF certainly disappoints with the Legend of Necalli, what we get in the character story was far more interesting. I feel his absorbing the warriors he defeats should've been something more explored upon in ASF. Unfortunately, despite better treatment in his character story than ASF, Necalli does very little to make an impact on the lore moving forward. 

 

Alex - Despite being the main protag in SF3, Alex's moments in his character story and ASF don't exactly hype him up to be that. However, most of his main lore importance does come from SF3, so everythin in SF5 does feel like filler. FANG never really explains why he kidnapped him. I guess the only thing his story does is set up his scene with Dhalsim in ASF, which feels like a waste.

 

Guile - Quite a few good things in this story. I liked how Abel has continued his partnership with Guile, as seen in the SF4 endings and SFxT (despite no canon ties to the main story). Guile's flashback with Nash does feel a little short and I wished they could've expanded on that. Maybe show them getting a drink post-fight, so that it could mirror Guile and Luke's story.  I also liked how it ties into ASF as sort of a prologue. Guile and Abel fends off FANG before infiltrating an abandoned SIN base. Sadly, all we get is that it's Shadaloo's Grand Plan. No specs, no details, just "Operation Chains". I would've liked at least one visual so us viewers can speculate, and also to see its relation to ASF. Finally, I liked how Vega's trap for Abel and Guile is almost similar to how he trapped Chun-Li in SF4, but the two end up escaping. My last complaint would be to have Abel and Guile part, so him randomly appearing in ASF doesn't feel out of place. Like maybe Abel will volunteer to keep giving Guile inside information from inside the Shadaloo base, while Guile tries to bring together a group of fighters to bring down Shadaloo for good. Overall, decent character story but with some missed opportunities.

 

Ibuki - Surprisingly more enjoyable than I expected. While it doesn't reveal anything new about Ibuki personally, it's does showher first meeting with Karin, and how she was officially employed by her. Birdie is enjoyably stupid, Karin prefers hand-to-hand over handshakes, and Ibuki is still is hunting for a stud. Also some speculation for ASF that most of the "handsome young men" Ibuki talked to weren't to her liking, and that's why she's sitting bored at the table with Birdie stuffing his face.
Since Karin isn't mentioned in SF3, I'm only going to assume employment with the Kanzukis was a temporary thing. But during her employment with her, she's had a lot of fun adventures in this game, and not just ASF, but as shown in other character stories too. Overall, Ibuki's story serves as a prologue and epilogue to her time in SFV before returning home. 

 

Balrog - Balrog and Vega have always been pretty fickle when it came to serving Lord Bison, FANG is the only obnoxiously loyal one. I feel that with FANG in 2nd in command, Balrog had always been looking for an excuse to leave for good, but as he states in his story "We'll go when we're ready.". So obviously Bison's downfall was the perfect time to seek employment elsewhere. I do think Balrog's character story does more to build up Urien as a power player than it does help Balrog with any kind of character development or any ties to plot. Balrog's story boils down to waiting for my 2 weeks notice to come up before I bounce to the next person who'll pay me da fight monay!

 

Juri - I thought there was too much going on in Juri's character story. And it felt like it was going too fast. One of the good things about it was the first fight with M. Bison. It pretty cool and brutal for M. Bison to just take Juri's Feng Shui from her eye, but felt disappointment when she just got another one from an abandoned SIN base. I felt Juri's interactions with Helen/Kolin and C. Viper were too short for anything meaningful. And Juri just accepted to join Helen's team but what does she get in return? I wasn't sure if I understood or missed that part. And her fights with balrog and FANG feels kinda meh.

 

Urien - So many great things to say with this. In ASF, Urien's job was not to take too much focus away from the main plot in his brief appearances, but when he did come on screen, he had such a commanding presence, and he left you with a taste for more. And he certainly shows that in his character story.

His R&D and testing of Elevens are a sign of things to come in SF3 when Urien and the Illuminati rise to power. He's contributed to Nash's resurrection (I'm guessing Helen used parts of Eleven to "Frankenstein" Nash's missing bod parts.

With his scene with C. Viper, we just a small taste of how grand Urien's organization can grow. If he could cause a few "suspiscious" deaths, research and experiement on Elevens while he's still rising to power with Sahdaloo still at it's peak, just imagine the power he'll have when Shadaloo crumbles at the end. Plus his dialogue perfectly paints his personality

Overall, Urien has an excellent character story: he sets things up to come, partially contributes to a key point in the Nash's resurrection, stays true to his character (both now and SF3), and does just enough to make a splash without making too much waves. 

 

Akuma - I thought it was awesome that Akuma straight up kills Gen. I'm curious if Chun-Li ever finds out, what would the reaction be? And would she go after Akuma in another plot line? Sadly, and this is no fault to Akuma at all, obliterating Necalli just feels underwhelming because of how bad Necalli was in ASF. Hilarious faces and noises,  and Akuma emerge out was pretty cool though.

I did enjoy Akuma's interactions with Ryu, although it feels like it's been going on endlessly now. We always see the moments before and during the fight, but I enjoyed that conversation they had afterwards, even though I felt like I learned nothing from it. The thing I took from this was that wherever Ryu's journey ends, he and Akuma will have one last fight. And the conclusion should be enough to close both of their chapters for good. 
Obviously, that's not going to happen any time soon, but its got me imagining what a final climatic battle of two masters would look like, and if we're at the end of Street Fighter's life (god forbid), how would that final battle come out.

Other than that, Akuma's story had some epic moments, but nothing that teaches us anything new or sows any seeds for any more pressing upcoming plot lines.

 

Kolin - Because we only know Kolin from SF3, and as a significant NPC character in ASF, we don't have that good of an understanding of her full character. And it was imperative that her character story not only give us some insight about her, but also sets up some significance about her. Kolin's character story has everything I could ask for in a short character story: A chilling past, a meaningful fight with Guile (Kolin was hiding and resurrecting Nash, so if Guile won, all the secrets would be out), and it serves as a precursor to ASF as well as her services to Gill in the post-credits and SF3. I also loved the visuals in this story too.

 

Ed -  The only minor complaint I have with Ed's story is that I think it's a bogus explanation how it was Psycho Power that aged and bulked up young Ed in the time from SF4 to SF5. But I really enjoyed his story. The flashes of his past and his moments in ASF were minor reminders of his involvement with them. Menat's first appearence was a nice tease of what to expect of her, and a premonition of Ed and balrog's relationship together. And speaking of, it's him fighting with Balrog that probably has the most meaningful fight possibly out of all the other character stories. Ed  leaving to protect balrog, and balrog feeling like he's lost the one thing he's cared about aside from Fight money. And even seeing a side of Balrog that we've never seen before was very refreshing and very good for both Ed and Balrog.

We'll see how important Neo-Shadaloo is in future Street Fighter story plots, it's hard to say which direction they'll go with this. But based on what we got with Ed, his character story helped flushed him and Balrog greatly.

 

Abigail - In my opinion: Worst Character Story.

We learn nothing about him, each fight doesn't feel important, no ties to anything, and I'm left feeling more annoyed than entertained with his character story. With playing through all the character stories, there barely a single one that I didn't find at least a little enjoyment. But Abigail's, it felt like a complete waste of my time.

It isn't until a few character stories later where we learn that Abigail runs a legit autoshop business, and I wish they mentioned that in his character story, other than spending the whole time looking for a car like some idiot.

 

Menat - I think the best aspect of Menat's character story was that it's a fun showcase of her cute, laid-back, carefree personality, as if her animations and win-quotes don't already do that. Most of her story is just her giving premonitions to Ed and trying to give one to M. Bison (the later which foreshadowing his downfall).

One thing that I did find most interesting was her scene with Oro. I do think she was foreshadowing events outside of ASF to come, while leaving many questions unanswered. While her story doesn't reveal anything new, there's something to enjoy about seeing Menat's attitude in delivering her premonitions to those involved.

 

Zeku - Sadly, Zeku doesn't contribute to much in the grand scheme of things. But I found it interesting that rather than have his character story be about flashbacks and some Alpha fights that could mention Gen or other Final Fight characters, they have Zeku's character story focused on the future of Bushinryu, and having him branch out his services. The strider tease was pretty cool though. (Granted I'm not well versed in that lore to point out any commonalities)

We'll see if Karin or anyone with $$$ hires Zeku for his services in future SF games and/or plotlines. But as a character by itself, it's nothing special.

 

Sakura - We see one of the franchise's most beloved characters growing up right in front of us, and it's such a wholesome and wonderful feeling. I'm glad SF5 let her finally move on from not just her school girl phase, but also moving on with new life goals and directions. Sakura's story is probably the most relatable for the people playing it. We all grow up and as things change, so do we. Sometimes we get lost and are unsure what to do or what we want, whether it be for now or the future. And it's that feeling of realness between the audience and Sakura is what makes her character story special.

The Ryu fight had a familial and comforting feeling to it. I won't speak on the shipping wars of Street Fighter, but Sakura's and Ryu's bit at the end was really sweet and cute. And a great way to end it. It feels Sakura can take the next step in her life, whatever that may be. And whether she's still fighting or not the next time we see her, I really hope it wont be long before we find out what Sakura does with her life.

 

Blanka - Blanka-chan is the best thing to happen to Blanka since his he was reunited with his mama. Like Abigail's, Blanka's story was stupid filler entertainment. But unlike Abigail's it was actually fun and enjoyable (albeit the turn-off-your-brain type). Cracked a smile on my face with Blanka was trying to promote and market his Blanka-chan dolls, and I did like the SF2 plane reference. 

 

Falke - I'm left more underwhelmed with Falke's story. I feel she has most of the problems that Ed lacked. For instance, it's safe to assume Ed learned boxing from Balrog, but where and how did Falke master her psycho-bojitsu? I also know what Ed's motivations are. But I don't know what Falke's is. I feel she's just along for the ride, which doesn't help her character. I would've like to see Falke's backstory before becoming a Shadaloo experiment. Maybe also give her something to fight for? Like does she like Ed? Does she want to protect Ed like he did when he rescued her? I just wished that was clear.

Only reason why Falke's story isn't "garbage" was because it answers some questions on Neo-Shadaloo's motivations, and how Ed recruited her. But I'd like for more exploration with her if she does come back

 

Cody -  Just like Sakura, I'm also very happy that they have Cody break from his delinquent character to a much more respectable and redeemable job as the newly appointed mayor of Metro City. He knows slugging out thugs in the streets isn't going to be enough, so he takes a step above and becomes mayor. Now he's in a much more powerful position to protect the city he loves. If SF ever likes to dive into the thick of it, I'd love to see what his campaign looked like, or what kind of city-wide policies he's drawn up. We don't know if Metro City is going to be a hub for future SF plot lines, but if it does, we can count on Cody to be right in the thick of it, fighting for his city.

While I do feel Abigail's fight felt like a great introduction to the new Cody, his fight with Zeku just feels... forgetable.

 

G - G is easily the most interesting and most intriguing newcomer Street Fighter character. However, I did come away from his character story learning absolutely nothing, and having more questions than answers. the most intriguing part of his story was the Tarot reading Rose and Menat on G. He got the Fool arcana, which doesn't nessecarily mean "stupid". If you play any of the Persona games, you'll know that the Fool arcana is one with endless possibilities, and of unlimited power. So going off of that, I say that we're in for some big things with G for the future of SF (Rose's story mode may also confirm this). But as a character story by itself, it feels like it matches G's arcana, The Fool: Dumb but untapped with possibilities.

 

Sagat - While I do believe Sagat and the Satsui no Hado is a compelling direction to take Sagat's story, I feel that SF5 is a little too late for that. Perhaps (and this is just my opinion), if Sagat were to have a taste of the dark power while he was still bent on having a rematch with Ryu, maybe it would make more sense. But I feel Sagat has already moved past the vengeful side of him against Ryu. So having him struggle with the Satsui no Hado doesn't make any sense unless he had some connection with Ryu (which I didn't feel at any point in his character story). It was a strong choice for him to have a taste of it, but I felt that it was just the wrong choice at this point in the lore. And it's better for them to have a direction to go in (even if I disagree with it), than to have him stagnate for another story arc.

 

Kage - Unfortunately, Kage's character story doesn't do much, if anything at all, to build him up as his own entity, even if he wins all the fights in his story. Hell, he doesn't even survive his own character story, which makes Kage seem even more foolish and laughable (on top of his lazy design). However, the best thing to come out of Kage's story is that it seemingly closes the chapter of Ryu and the Satsui no Hado struggle. Ryu's already grasped the Power of Nothingness in ASF. And now with Ryu unaffected by the temptation of the Satsui no Hado, it feels that Kage has lost any and all control or influence he had on Ryu. And while his sendoff isn't anything memorable, seeing how Ryu's darkside doesn't appear in SF3, we can only assume that the Satsui no Hado arc for Ryu ends with Kage.

 

E. Honda - It's meant to entertain, and for many Street Fighter fans, and those of real culture, it does exactly that. While it fails on all the other aspects with regards to lore importance or character development, it more than makes up for it with its entertainment and hilarity (and fanservice) factor. Honda would make a good manager in whatever business venture he so chooses when he isn't street fighting. Plus "HOLD IT RIGHT THERE" should totally be one of his "parry" or "command grab" dialogues if he appears in another SF game.

 

Lucia - Unlike Abigail, Lucia's felt like a proper reintroduction. There were references to Final Fight, but at the same time, with all the changes that Cody and Lucia (and Abigail) have gone through, it feels like seeing an old friend for the first time in years. Plus, I love the humor bits in this: her shakedown of Abigail's business + reactions, and her RIP noodles at the end.

As said in Cody's, I would love to see what kind of political drama Metro City and it's city council members would be involved in. Not just petty offenders like Mad Gear, but also potential future organizations. If we can count on Cody to be there to protect his city, we can count on Lucia to do the same. 

 

Poison - My favorite part of Poison's story was seeing her softer side. She's always had a dominating personality, so after her and Hugo had a falling out, it was awesome to see this side of her that we don't see. Which is always good for Poison's character, even though we don't learn anything new about her. We never even got the reason why she and Hugo had a fight to begin with. Despite that, it's a decent story with both funny and softer moments.

 

Gill - Gill's story is excellent. SF Producers have mentioned some of the character stories takes place after ASF and some even venturing into SF3 territory. Gill's story is his revealment to the world and thus spearheading the rise of the Illuminati that would be seen in SF3. I also loved how Gill's story also builds up G's character into something possibly more powerful (and potentially more dangerous) than what he seems to be right now. And finally, as powerful and menacing as Urien was in his story and in ASF (in spite of limited screentime), Gill makes him feel 2nd rate, as Urien is practically begging his brother to acknowledge him. 

Gill's character story checks off every box and was really enjoyable to see the seeds of the Illuminati organization start to rise to the surface. While I do think a viral video with G  to spread the word is something a little out of left field, it still works. And we're left ponding for more as we are only given a taste of Gill's Harmony.

 

Seth - Much like how I feel about Seth, their character story can be boiled down to Wasted Potential that will go nowhere. Seth is revived, and I loved the surprise that Seth gets revived into a female body. But even with an uptake in insanity, I feel their hatred for M. Bison and Shadaloo just won't go anywhere. With M. Bison fallen, and Shadaloo in shambles, where is Seth going to go with this? How long are they going to be chasing ghosts until they gets reprogrammed with another purpose? Potentially, if Neo-Shadaloo has any influence in future plotlines, Seth could show up and be a derailer of things, much like Necalli was in ASF, but to go from Final Boss of SF4, to this, I can't help but feel bad for Seth.

 

Dan - Entertaining and dumb. Dan's story and Dan's character in a nutshell. Very fitting, fun, and stupid. I love it. It has the same feel as Blanka's: Stupid-turn off your brain filler-episode kind of fun, the same SFII plane travel reference, and enjoyable. Fun moments his his two closest confidants: Sakura and Blanka. And Blanka-Chan vs Saikyo-boy: Let the marketing battle begin!

 

Rose - I don't think there was a character story mode that got me and possibly the SF community more excited about the future of SF lore than with Rose's story mode. She does a lot more than the supposed future of SF protag Luke does: Foreshadowing of a great force of nature, the end of the world, and the hint of restarting back at Alpha. (There were also some rumors that Rose already has started back at Zero when it the story leading up to it all began in SF Alpha). Plus more of building up of G to be someone more significant, some cute banters with Menat, and the famous bath ending scene.

We'll see where the story goes from here, and if we'll get ala Mortal Kombat and retcon everything all over again, or dive more into potential end-of-the-world drama. But Rose has sparked interest in SF Lore and story once again.

 

Oro - I love how Oro has an established relation with two of the oldest SF characters: Rose (who is more than likely immortal), and Dhalsim. Even getting his japanese shirt from Rose was a wholesome touch. Oro is another great character story that does a fine job in building up the future of SF potential plot lines. Just like with Rose and Gill, Oro's character story builds up more potential with G. And we learn that despite Bison's fall, his influence and power is still felt upon the world, which if left unchecked, could lead down the path of another apocalypse, very much as Rose predicted in her character story. 

I love Oro talking in Confucius/Uncle Iroh manner, and also planting the idea of how such an apocalypse can be prevented. Possibly something to explore in future SF games.

 

Akira - If SFV character stories were like anime episodes, Akira's is essentially the Friendship and Beach trope episode, which is something I greatly enjoy. No long-term implications to lore. But maybe Akira ends up joining Karin's entourage, and we'll see more "Adventures of Karin and Friends" with Ibuki, Sakura, Karin, and Akira. I loved the flashback to Rival Schools, and giving us more insight of what happened during that time.

Overall, it's fun, cheerful, wholesome, and building bonds between the four ladies. At the end of it all, I felt very happy experiencing this short character story.

 

Luke - The last one is simple and short. Lots to unpack and definitely doing it's job of setting him up as the future of SF. Luke's backstory of seeing his father died is a good catalyst for inspiration. And after serving his time in the military, Luke has lost his reason to fight, but a quick spar and some beers with Guile makes him realize he can do more afterwards. I wished that Luke's Story mode gave us more to it, like motivations or some groundwork to get excited for him as the next protag of the franchise. But i loved seeing him and Guile going out for beers after their only fight.

If any of the "end of the world" prophecies that the previous characters have predicted shall come to pass, we can assume that Luke will be at the forefront defending the future. But his story feels more of an introduction than an actual tie-in with any future plotlines.

 

 

 

It was actually nice to read this thread and your points of views. I actually enjoyed all the stories but if one thing, Falke's overall story is nice but it doesn't add up to anything and Falke makes me wanna piss off flames just looking at her. 

37 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

No, only version i found is this

You're welcome dude

Aww man, but i appreciate the gallery 

4 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

Since we are posting book stuff i post here too the SFV concept sketches scans... too bad no recent characters, would be curious to see

 

HUGE gallery btw

https://imgur.com/a/FcacENG

 

Most curious still is "monster" G version, curious to know if was only a very early dropped idea or if there's some still untold lore behind that

 

 

 

Hey Cestus, you know where i can find the English version. 

Guys it's late but i stayed up translating Chun-Li’s father's bio from the AAC:

Chun-Li’s father AAC:

春麗の父【人物・♂】■『 スト Ⅱ  』シリーズ/『 スト ZERO 』シリーズ/スト Ⅲ 3rd/『 スト EX 』シリーズ/『 VS. 』シリーズ

春麗 が 長年 捜し つづけ て いる 父親 。ICPO の 麻薬 捜査 班 に 所属 し て い た が 、シャドルー がらみ の 事件 に 巻きこま れ て 行方 不明 に な り 、春麗 が ストリート ファイト を はじめる きっ かけ を 作っ た 。中国 拳法 の 達人 で 、 春麗 の 師 でも ある 。さらに 、 元 と は 何 か 関係 が ある よ うで 、春麗 が 使う 元伝暗殺蹴 は 元 → 春麗 の 父 → 春麗 へ と 伝え られ た もの らしい 。シリーズ 中 一 度 も 姿 を 見せ ず ､ 生死 は いまだ 不明 だ が 、「 スト Ⅱ 」 シリーズ の エンディング で は 、 すでに 死亡 し た もの と 見なさ れ て いる 。

■ ストリートファイター ザ・ムービー

バイソン 将軍 の 手 に かかり 殺さ れ た 。

Chun-Li’s father【Character・♂】■“SF2” series/“SFZERO” series/SF3TS/“SFEX” series/“Vs.” series

Chun-Li’s father, who she continues to search for many years. He belonged to the ICPO'S narcotics investigation team when he went missing after being involved in an incident related to Shadaloo, which made an opportunity for Chun-Li to start street fighting. He is a master of Chinese martial arts and is also Chun-Li's teacher. Additionally, it appears that there's a connection to Gen, as the Genden Assassination Kick (Moto den ansatsuke)  Chun-Li uses seems to have been passed down from Gen → Chun-Li’s father →Chun-Li. He never once appeared in the series, as life and death are still unclear and in the “SF2” endings, he is considered deceased. 

■ Street Fighter: The Movie

He was murdered at the hands of General Bison (Balrog).
 

Btw, Nash just looks so damn tired. The man is HARDLY smiling like looks at that man 💀🙄. 

7 minutes ago, Lord_Vega said:

Glad you liked it! 😅

 

However, I was pretty disappointed about this book myself.... 80% of the stuff published was either in the Vital Box I and II books (like the character 3D models) or was already on the internet....

I very much do like it 😁. Can't wait for the other information to come in. Also,, I didn't know they have other books 🤔, i don't own them so unfortunately i never saw any of this information. 

8 minutes ago, Lord_Vega said:

Hey guys!

 

Here's a small christmas gift for you (specially for @sKreetFighteZ😅)!

 

STREET FIGHTER V CHAMPION EDITION STYLE GUIDE PART 1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

More coming soon!

GREATEST  CHRISTMAS GIFT EVER! MY EVER-LOVING STREET FIGHTER HEART IS HAPPY 😁😁😁😁😁! THANK YOUUUUUUUUUU

2 hours ago, BootyWarrior said:

That Alex ending is most likely non-canon. And even if it is, Zangief gets even more feats in the Christmas side story.

 

https://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/column/131312

 

He turns to the larger shadowy figure (Zangief), who has yet to react to what is happening.

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Ken's trademark special move was a little different this time. It was fueled not only with his usual fighting spirit, but with everything he's got. His fist hit something that felt more like steel than flesh, but it was definitely a clean, direct hit. The intruder reeled from the force of the attack. However...

 

Ken's strongest Shoryuken wasn't enough to knock Zangief out or knock him off his feet. What makes this feat even better is that Zangief wasn't battle ready and chose not to retaliate on a helpless Ken who just performed Shoryuken. Capcom made Zangief the coolest World Warrior in one game.

If he had a disciple, Capcom would make him the main star like SNK did with Rock Howard or how Namco did with Jin Kazama. Instead we got Luke as the main guy who already has ties with Guile.

That was dropped almost immediately. In Akira's story mode she's still eager to fight and hasn't changed/matured at all.

 

Also Merry Christmas!

Capcom’s needs to make up there mind 🙄

Happy holidays guys. I hope ur all doing well. I decided to do the bios of Honda's sumo students. 

Nishi no Fuji AAC:

西の富士【人物・♂】■『 スト Ⅱ  』 シリーズ

エドモンド本だのエンディングに姿を見せる、本田の弟子のひとり。開発者のひとり、NIN氏がそのモデル？

Nishi no Fuji【Character・♂】■  “SF2” series

One of E. Honda’s disciples, who appears in his ending. His model is perhaps NIN, one of the developers?

Hatoyama AAC:

はとのやま
鳩山【人物・♂】■『 スト Ⅱ  』 シリーズ

エドモンド 本田 の 弟子 の ひとり 。 本田 の エン ディング で 姿 を 見せる 。

Hatoyama【Character・♂】■ “SF2” series

One of E.Honda’s disciples. He appears in Honda’s ending.

Maru no Umi AAC:

まるのうみ
丸乃湖【人物・♂】■『 スト Ⅱ  』 シリーズ

エドモンド 本田 の エンディング に 登場 する 、彼 の 弟子 の ひとり 。

Maru no Umi【Character・♂ 】■ “SF2” series

He's one of E.Honda’s disciples, who appears in his ending. 

Yasuhanada AAC:

やすはなだ
安花田【人物・♂】■『 スト Ⅱ  』 シリーズ

エドモンド 本田 の エンディング に 登場 する 弟子 の ひとり 。開発者 の ひとり 、 AKIMAN 氏がそ の 名 の 由来 ?

Yasuhanada【Character・♂ 】■ “SF2” series

One of E.Honda’s disciples, who appears in his ending. His name is perhaps derived from AKIMAN, one of the developers ? 

22 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

- HOWEVER -

 

SFV story may have 99 problems, but i will miss canon muscle power god Zangief

 

-Break psycho powered katanas by flexing

-One shot psychoberseker Abel into spinning coma

-Balrog with his best punches was unable to do shit to him  (till Ed distracted Gief)

 

Too bad they ruined it a bit by having Alex defeating him in some shitty ending lol

 

 

PS: Merry XMAS everyone 😄

Okay now this is funny 😭🤣. I find F.A.N.G the most hypocritical with Aprile there, speaking of Aprile, I now realize the many similarities her and Menat have. 

1 hour ago, Miðgarðsorm said:

I surmise you stumbled upon RyoRedCyclone's blog, where he collected the long Japanese speech F.A.N.G did in the official SFV site if you pushed a special button (which  appears gone as of now). I remember translating it back in the old SRK forum, and in fact it was maybe my very first translation there... Although there are a few new details about the Dolls which weren't there in the original one I see in SRK, while some other were omitted. @bakfromon@Lord_VegaThis is interesting, because it appears Capcom changed the message somewhere between 2016 and 2019. It's not the first time they changed their texts under our nose... My 2016 updated translation follows, with corrections; the new phrases underlined and the former, scrapped phrases with a strikethrough:

Enero: she’s the provisional leader, and guides other members and refines all the plans for special operations. It seems she also takes part in battles quite often, as she knows how to fight. She is specialized in vocal mimicry, and uses it to confound the enemy. She's very proud, and often hard to handle. Then there is
Février: she uses two submachine gun, and specializes in firearms. She’s terribly sarcastic, so beware! Her charming points are her hair and glasses!  You can't win against her in an argument; it'd be only a waste of time.
März: she is specialized in info gathering and cyber attacks. She's powerless, but she seems to be able to fight nonetheless. Not the type you’d want to upset! Actually, she seems to have been doing boxing (as an exercise?) behind the secret base.¹
Aprile: she carries a medkit, and takes care of her colleagues. I, Lord F.A.N.G, have bestowed upon her a finely developed neurotoxin, so that in case of danger she can use the poison and attack. She's of Italian origin, and she was doing rhythmic gymnastics when she was abducted! That's dreadful! It's wrong to abduct people! ²
Satsuki: a Japanese samurai-style fighter. The number one fighting member in terms of offensive capability. Her beloved samurai sword cuts anything! Well, if she ever turns her blade on me, I can simply melt even her sword with my poison. Actually, she's also specialised in hand-to-hand martial arts, and has a move where she jumps in the air and slams her opponent to the ground. It's a followup to her Hooligan Combination, very cool to see. She also has a sliding kick. ³
Juli: a fighting member using Sniping Arrow. It seems a lot has happened in previous operations, but she’s safely back to Shadaloo to support our World conquest.
Tháng Tám: a member specialized in spear fighting! As she has good eyesight, she can spot the enemy from high grounds. She can execute her duties with accuracy. Her beloved partner is Kiki, a Golden Lion Tamarin. She likes animals, and she worries about exploiting Kiki too much, but it's necessary for the World and for Lord Vega.
Jiǔ Yuè and Yáng Yuè are twins. It appears to me that the one fighting with nunchakus and sporting a classical Chinese Opera face paint is Jiǔ Yuè, while Yáng Yuè is the one that fights with acrobatics wielding a stick; I tend to confuse them often. They seem specialised in combination techniques. That's a bit unfair, isn't it?
November is the powerhouse of the Dolls. She wields two hatchets, one for each arm. Her spinning attack is devastating. She rarely speaks and is very reserved. Her hobby is to grow vegetables, and she has transformed a corner on the base roof into a vegetable garden. Also, she makes dolls. Lastly there is
Dekabr’: the most powerful of all members, due to her being infused with Lord Bison’s Psycho Power. Could it be that she hates our former member Killer Bee? I can’t say it for sure, as I don’t know a lot of past things…

¹ This is a clear attempt by Capcom to sell März as more of a threat, because a computer nerd is not a sufficiently believable menace. They sold hard November, Jiǔ Yuè and Yáng Yuè as strong opponents, and yet you never fight them...
² LOL, F.A.N.G at his most hypocritical here.
³ I recall seeing Satsuki doing something akin to an Izuna Otoshi from the Hooligan Combination, but I don't remember where.

Oh, and Merry Christmas to you all!

Thank you for translating these. These were very interesting to read into. Also the AAC guide that mentioned the Dolls said they were all subjected to rigorous training sessions, so i assumed they were strong in their own right so i don't know why they would sell März as weak even though she is an elite assassin of Shadaloo. 

Dolls AAC:

ベガ親衛隊【組織】■ ストZERO3

シャドルー の 強化兵士 の なか でも 選び抜か れ た 者 たち から 成る 、 ベガ の 親衛隊。薬物 による 洗脳•強化 と きびしい 訓練 を 受け て おり 、 機械的 に ベガ に し た が う。 隊員 が 10 ~ 20 代 の 女性 ば かり で 、 しかも 身体 に フィット し た レオター ド の 衣装 を 制服 として 着せ られ て いる の は、 ベガ の 趣味 だろ う か …… 。 世界各地 から 集め られ た 計 12 名 の 隊員 ( エネーロ 、 フェヴリエ 、 メルヅア ブリーレ 、 サツキ 、 ユーニ 、 ユーリ 、 サンタム 、 ジウユー 、 ヤンユー 、 ノウェンベル 、 ディカープリ ) が おり 、 それぞれ の 名前 は 1 月 から 12 月 の 各月 に 由来 し て いる 。 ただし , ゲーム 中 に 姿 を 見せ るのは 10 名 まで。

Vega Guards【Organization】■ SFZERO3

A group consisting of carefully chosen people who undergo enhancements to become supreme soldiers of Shadaloo, Vega’s Elite Guard (Dolls). Using drugs• as a method of brainwashing, they receive enhancements and are submit to rigorous training sessions, but they are mechanically subject to Vega. The members consists of abducted females ranging between the ages of 10 ~ 20 who’s attire consists of form fitting leotard bodysuits… I wonder if that’s one of Vega’s interests. The group consists of 12 members who’ve been collected from all over the world, each with a name derived from a corresponding month of the abductees home country:(Enero, Février, März, Aprile, Satsuki, Juni, Juli, Santamu, Xiayu, Jianyu, Noembelu, Decapre). Although 12 members are featured only 10 make an appearance in game.
 

41 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

@MiðgarðsormFrom recollection Satsuki has third special attack the CPU AI never uses. It's the Izuna Drop. People that hacked the dolls playable could perform it. I looked it up before I finished my post, it's at the 18:41 mark

 

 

I do recall Satsuki having an Izuna Drop move 🤔, perhaps it isn't talked about as much because she's most known for her swordsmanship. 

Here's the video for the Dolls moveset. Satsuki's Izuna Drop move is at the 2:38 timestamp. 

I found some information I'd like to share with you all. So i was looking for some information ab the Dolls (when the Shadaloo Research website was introducing them), and i came across these japanese transcripts on a blog bc well i think it wasn't there anymore): (there are some images but it doesn't show the complete text).

Enero:

【エネーロ】彼女がいちおうのリーダーデス。特殊任務の計画を練ったり　他のメンバーに指示だししたりする役目デスね。戦闘も出来ますので戦地に赴いて、直接指揮を取る事も多いみたいデス。声帯模写が得意で、敵を混乱させることが出来ますデス。結構プライドが高いので、扱いに困ることもあるんデス。次は

Février :

【フェヴリエ】二丁のサブマシンガンを器用に使いこなす　銃火器の担当デス。口が物凄く悪いので　気を付けた方が良いデスよ。口げんかじゃ絶対勝てないデス。時間の無駄デス。　

März:

【メルツ】　彼女は情報操作　サイバー攻撃を得意としているデス。非力ながらも　それなりに戦うことは出来る見たいデスよ。こういうタイプが怒ったら　怖いんデスよねェ。実は秘密裏にボクシング（エクササイズ的な？）をやっていたらしいデス。
　
Aprile:

【アプリーレ】医療キットを持ち歩き　仲間の救護を担当しているデス。この　F.A.N.G様謹製の　神経毒を支給してあるので　いざとなったら　毒を使い攻撃してくるデショネ。イタリア出身で新体操なんかをやっていた様で、そこに目を付けてさらってきたとの事デスよ！怖い！人さらいアカン！

Satsuki:

【サツキ】ジャパニーズサムライスタイルの戦闘員デス。戦闘力はDollsでナンバー1デスね。　愛刀ムラサメブレードの切れ味は　ものすんごいらしいデス。まぁ　ワタシに刃向って来たら　毒で刀ごと溶かしてやりますデスけどね。実は体術も得意で、相手を掴み上空にジャンプし地面に叩きつける技を持っていたりするデス。フーリガンコンビネーションの亜流技で、結構かっこいいデス。スライディングもしますデスね。

Juli:

【ユーリ】スナイピングアローを使う戦闘員デスね。前作で色々あったみたいデスが　無事にシャドルーに帰還し　世界征服に加担してますデス。

Santamu:

【サンタム】こちらは槍を使った戦闘が得意な隊員デス。　視力が良いので　高台から敵地を見渡し　効率よく任務を遂行する事が出来るのデス。ゴールデンライオンタマリンのキキが相棒の様デスヨ。動物が好きで、キキを酷使するのに心を痛めている様デスが、世界のため、ベガ様のためにはやむを得んデス。

Xiayu and Jianyu:

【ジウユー】と【ヤンユー】は双子デス　ヌンチャクを使って闘う京劇風ペイントをしている方がジウユー。棍を使ってアクロバティックに戦う方がヤンユー見たいデス。よく間違ってしまうデスよ。コンビネーション技が得意らしいデス。なんかズルっこデスね。

Noembelu:

【ノウェンベル】Dollsのパワーキャラ担当デス。片手斧を二つ装備しているデス。両手に斧を持ち　回転しながら斬りつける攻撃が強烈デス。言葉少ない寡黙なヤツデス。野菜を育てるのが趣味、らしいので基地の屋上の一角を提供し、菜園をやっているデス。あと人形作りが得意らしいデスよ。

Decapre:

最後は【ディカープリ】ベガ様のサイコパワーの影響を一番強く受けてる戦闘員デス。元Dollsのキラー・ビーとか言うヤツの事が嫌い？みたいデスよ。ワタシは過去の事は全く知らないので何とも言えないデスけどね。マスクはマイナーチェンジしてるらしいデスよ。

Welp, that's all the information i found so far. I haven't really looked into it that much but this was all i found and i wonder if this is all Canon or not. Unfortunately juni doesn't have one which sucks bc i wanted to know what she done inside Shadaloo but oh well. Enjoy yourself. 

3 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

Tbh we already know -relatively- a lot about the Secret Society, even if the characters themselves don't show that much

https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Secret_Society

 

For Kolin powers i think most likely scenario is that when they want somebody to gain elemental powers they somehow find out wich element is the one you have more affinity with and "give" it to you... even if is not clear if is something "external" given to you as a gift, or if they have a ritual/method to unlock something wich already exist inside the person.

Before SFV used to think the gem they nailed into Gill/Urien's foreheads (wich link to pineal gland/"third eye") was theyr way to unlock the powers, but Kolin not having it mean it's not needed... at least in current canon, idk what was in SF3

 

Necro may proof was'nt needed even back to old canon, but i'm not sure if his electric powers have to be considered part of all other changes made with scientific experiments (like rubber body, extendable skeleton and the chip in his head) or if that ability has been given to him with techniques closer to Gill/Urien/Kolin elements.

Would be cool to know if Necro rubber body has been given him also to work also as self-protection (as rubber can protect from electricity)  wich would show a difference with Gill/Urien/Kolin that don't need anything to protect themselves by their own powers and may hint different(inferior) method used for him... but this is pure speculation

 

My 2cents as now is that the forehead gem is not needed for the element thing, but to use the secret techniques

Gill and Urien are the only two secret techniques users (resurrection and aegis reflector) and only two with the forehead gem, so maybe while elements are more a ki thing the techniques need also a physical operation to be unlocked

Strange fact Seraphic Wings despite being apparently Gill's most powerful technique does'nt have a canon "explanation" and it's not considered one of the 66 secret techniques

 

Another curious thing is the wiki says the maximum number of elements an human can control is 3, but so far the one we seen with most is Gill at 2 (fire and ice)... so i guess at least at that an unknown character (that maybe is'nt even currently alive) had greater potential

Some consider Urien at 2 too (electricy and metal) , but i think he's at 1 with his element being electromagnetism wich give him both purple electric stuff and magnetic control over metal particles

Kolin at 1 (ice)

Necro possible case of 1 (electric, as said before if is'nt different method)

G possible case of 1 (metal/gold, as Gill seem to recognize G's power, so seems at least possible he seen in G same kind of elemental power used by SS members)

Damn. This is kind of interesting to hear tho. I never noticed all these things before. At first i thought you said the only elements a human can control was 3 and so i thought Gill's resurrection and Urien's aegis reflector was apart of that but i think not since those are considered the 66 arts i believe. 

2 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

Fun thing is at this point even if they chose to reveal us more about Secrety Society in next games (wich i think is likely), we have no way to know if the new pieces of story we get are completely new/made up at the moment or ifthe new canon fit in some way ideas that they had back to SF3

 

There are pretty clear hints back then they made SF3 thinking they will have chance to further develop the story in next game not SO long after following events of 3, while today we know things gone differently

Who knows how much of the original post-3 lore will be used, current team may ignore it and go completely new route or they can write something that will follow to some extent what they had in mind for the future more than 22 years ago (SF3ThirdStrike)

 

I think we will get something like 80-20 or 70-30 in favor of completely new stuff, but we know Capcom is good at keep record of obscure stuff was planned/dropped as concept even in further past

 

 

Yeah you're right. I kinda hope they add on to what they have to the Secret Society as a whole. I like how they made Kolin, who was nothing but a sprite in Gill's intro, into a fighter with a nice background. So I believe Capcom will have something good in store when it comes to the Secret Society.