N-Tactix

https://twitter.com/steelballrunner/status/1763481522840252445

https://twitter.com/steelballrunner/status/1763481522840252445

I saw this thread on twitter and it just gave me a huge rush of nostalgia of being here and in SRK, I just had to log back in. I vividly remember finding out the statement about Sakura while scouring across some low res scans of a NG guidebook and some Red Earth materials on a Chinese website.
 
Necro's attitude towards the Illuminati being less of hatred and more regret I find pretty interesting compared to how it comes across in the SF3 games, and personally I've never considered the concept of Sean being able to tap into the SnH. It makes sense though I think most people will agree it's not something that's worth exploring. But with SF6 now, I can't help but look at this and be disappointed at how much Capcom kind of just put all these characters on pause.

I saw this thread on twitter and it just gave me a huge rush of nostalgia of being here and in SRK, I just had to log back in. I vividly remember finding out the statement about Sakura while scouring across some low res scans of a NG guidebook and some Red Earth materials on a Chinese website.
 
Necro's attitude towards the Illuminati being less of hatred and more regret I find pretty interesting compared to how it comes across in the SF3 games, and personally I've never considered the concept of Sean being able to tap into the SnH. It makes sense though I think most people will agree it's not something that's worth exploring. But with SF6 now, I can't help but look at this and be disappointed at how much Capcom kind of just put all these characters on pause.

I wouldn't be surprised if her SFV story is setting up Rose as a Chizuru type figure who is actively pulling strings in an attempt to stop whatever threat is on the horizon.
 
Considering how she encountered Akuma as her special encounter in Alpha 2, in which she learns about the SnH, she was probably planning on warning Ryu/getting him ready for the battle against Bison in case things on her end failed during the Alpha 3 period.
 
On a general note, it's great to finally have Rose back in SFV. Can't to start using her a lot though I find it strange that they didn't address anything to do with Ed/Falke considering how Menat came to warn the former about the future unless Rose has things planned to deal with him.

Nice! I've been getting into a NG/2I phase alongside just 1996-1997 era Capcom binge. I am still sceptical though that SF6 will actually address the loose ends from SF3.

It makes sense when you remember that Blade's name in Japanese is Jihad and that Leo's+Blade's country of origin suspiciously resembles North Africa. Possibly inspired by stories of Barbary Lions and warriors in Carthage alongside the tokusatsu I talked about last year. Obviously a Arabic name in pre-Islamic N.Africa is weird but Japan always mixes that region up with all sorts of other parts of the world.
 
Between this and SF3 NG+2I drawing inspiration from Rai music, I wonder if the Capcom fighting team had a fascination with North Africa/Middle East during the mid 90's. 
I still remember in the pre-SF4 days people thinking that there was more to Vega all because of that one CvS2 animation and it made used to think Vega was a contender for being Q. Funny how that one detail changes everything.

It makes sense when you remember that Blade's name in Japanese is Jihad and that Leo's+Blade's country of origin suspiciously resembles North Africa. Possibly inspired by stories of Barbary Lions and warriors in Carthage alongside the tokusatsu I talked about last year. Obviously a Arabic name in pre-Islamic N.Africa is weird but Japan always mixes that region up with all sorts of other parts of the world.
 
Between this and SF3 NG+2I drawing inspiration from Rai music, I wonder if the Capcom fighting team had a fascination with North Africa/Middle East during the mid 90's. 
I still remember in the pre-SF4 days people thinking that there was more to Vega all because of that one CvS2 animation and it made used to think Vega was a contender for being Q. Funny how that one detail changes everything.

It makes sense when you remember that Blade's name in Japanese is Jihad and that Leo's+Blade's country of origin suspiciously resembles North Africa. Possibly inspired by stories of Barbary Lions and warriors in Carthage alongside the tokusatsu I talked about last year. Obviously a Arabic name in pre-Islamic N.Africa is weird but Japan always mixes that region up with all sorts of other parts of the world.
 
Between this and SF3 NG+2I drawing inspiration from Rai music, I wonder if the Capcom fighting team had a fascination with North Africa/Middle East during the mid 90's. 
I still remember in the pre-SF4 days people thinking that there was more to Vega all because of that one CvS2 animation and it made used to think Vega was a contender for being Q. Funny how that one detail changes everything.

Looking at those early threads and seeing that some people here have been discussing SF/fighting game stories since 2002 is really something to behold and admirable that the community here hasn't seemed to fallen under any bs drama apart from Vasili or when we all migrated here as what usually happens when a community lasts this long.

Italian Wrestler: Marisa
French Girl: Mimi
Mexican Girl: Lily(?) 
American Girl: Kimberly
 
Looking at the concept art, it looks like another SFV deal with the concept being good but it gets botched with the actual implementation in 3d. I was talking to a friend last night and she absolutely predicted Cammy having pants and the returning men having beards, she was a bit sad on that but on my end it was surreal to see that happen. Overall, I'm on the fence but slightly leaning towards positive. This can go wrong in so many ways and I'm not liking the look too much. 
 
Also is it me or does Ken look like a more modern version of MOTW Terry? 

Italian Wrestler: Marisa
French Girl: Mimi
Mexican Girl: Lily(?) 
American Girl: Kimberly
 
Looking at the concept art, it looks like another SFV deal with the concept being good but it gets botched with the actual implementation in 3d. I was talking to a friend last night and she absolutely predicted Cammy having pants and the returning men having beards, she was a bit sad on that but on my end it was surreal to see that happen. Overall, I'm on the fence but slightly leaning towards positive. This can go wrong in so many ways and I'm not liking the look too much. 
 
Also is it me or does Ken look like a more modern version of MOTW Terry? 

Italian Wrestler: Marisa
French Girl: Mimi
Mexican Girl: Lily(?) 
American Girl: Kimberly
 
Looking at the concept art, it looks like another SFV deal with the concept being good but it gets botched with the actual implementation in 3d. I was talking to a friend last night and she absolutely predicted Cammy having pants and the returning men having beards, she was a bit sad on that but on my end it was surreal to see that happen. Overall, I'm on the fence but slightly leaning towards positive. This can go wrong in so many ways and I'm not liking the look too much. 
 
Also is it me or does Ken look like a more modern version of MOTW Terry? 

Seems like the version we got in the final game opted for a Babel II style thing with the resting pod and tower in the middle of the desert.

Seems like the version we got in the final game opted for a Babel II style thing with the resting pod and tower in the middle of the desert.

That was 96. 97 is funnily enough one of the most straightforward adaptations. Only real difference is that Yamazaki helps CYS while Yashiro and Shermie fuse with Chris to form Orochi. And I don't remember much of 98 except that it's all in Shingo's imagination. 
 
It's also why CYS re-incarnated in Zillion as when Orochi was sealed, he no longer had a host so all three of them returned to Earth. However this does lead to Chris getting kidnapped by NESTS and them managing to copy his data which split his regular self from his Orochi persona  creating clones of Orochi that Fio takes down while saving King's brother, who is being made into the next Orochi host. 

That was 96. 97 is funnily enough one of the most straightforward adaptations. Only real difference is that Yamazaki helps CYS while Yashiro and Shermie fuse with Chris to form Orochi. And I don't remember much of 98 except that it's all in Shingo's imagination. 
 
It's also why CYS re-incarnated in Zillion as when Orochi was sealed, he no longer had a host so all three of them returned to Earth. However this does lead to Chris getting kidnapped by NESTS and them managing to copy his data which split his regular self from his Orochi persona  creating clones of Orochi that Fio takes down while saving King's brother, who is being made into the next Orochi host. 

It has been a while since I read all of them. Craziest moment has to be the 00 manhua where Kyo and Iori have a race using sports cars across the motorway until Chizuru has to teleport Iori out of the car. And the entirety of the Buriki One manhua where Robert is obese and simply concentrates his mind to return to his old self. 
 
It was always weird to me that she wasn't involved at any capacity at all during the NESTS saga in the games. 

I'll actually correct this...
 
NESTS era Kyo WAS a clone swapped out for that tournament but the real Kyo is observing during that time. NESTS era Kyo was not a clone the entire time, just for the last tournament battle. Meanwhile, Kusanagi in 2002 is X/Kyo-3 from the KOF2000-0x manhua and the end of the KOF2001 manhua.

I'd say the fact that Ed existed all the way back in SF4 disproves that. Capcom seem to want to have a story going. 
 
What needs to be looked at is whether they will actually commit to it all the way through. 
 
Personally, I'd have Shadaloo stay gone for the time being, if Bison is to return it should be under his own terms and by himself. If you have NS and the original co-existing, they just tarnish whatever image was left of the original Shadaloo and also makes SF6 yet again too scared to move beyond the SF2 era in proper ways. 

From what I remember of the manhua's development, they were given in depth notes by SNK months in advance of the games being released and certain trivia but were given free reign. Which is why you get stuff like the headswap clones from Zillion popping up (or just Zillion in general which is basically a 94-00 fanfiction) or the wild plot twist that NESTS era Kyo is a clone and KUSANAGI was the real Kyo this whole time. 
 
It's why Glaugan appears in the 00 manhua as Clone Zero's assistant as intended (and if you look at his stage in the game, you'll notice some lion engravings across the plaza you fight him in). 

So I got the two copies of the RX-NESTs Finale manhua in! They're reproductions but are perfect quality.
 
What interesting books! They feature K666, Roddy, Kollie and Kyaga from the KOF Zillion manga as agents of NESTs! Really strange! Are these characters intended to actually be some kind of quasi-canon? Hmm

Another interesting thing about Goentiz is that he pretends to be a priest of a another religion yet doesn't believe in it at all according to his Japanese wiki page (likely Catholicism considering how the genderflipped version has her nationality written as Italian) 
 
He was also responsible for trashing Kyo almost completely in front of Benimaru between 95 and 96, causing Kyo to humble himself and revamp his fighting style. 
 
But I disagree with the fact that he was overlooked, at the time there was huge build up to him. His appearance in the KOF Kyo manga and a novel of him as a teenager beating Rugal were released before 96 came out. He had huge presence in 96 itself and into 97 as well, arguably being the true villain of the Orochi saga moreso than Rugal, CYS and arguably even Orochi could ever be. His revenge on Vice and Mature also helps cement him a well done villain since his last act is technically spiting his former allies. He appeared in SvC Chaos and the console ports of 02 too where his appearance was one of the big highlights of that game. 
 
I'd argue that Capcom would have likely used him for CvS3 back when it considered as their 2d swan song in 2002-03. But that's a digression. 
 
I wouldn't say he was forgotten or tossed to the side. He just had to compete with the likes of Rugal, Geese, Krizalid, Igniz etc who all have their own reasons for being as popular as they are (and in my opinion, except for Igniz, better than him) . Mukai and C. Zero are the ones that got overshadowed.
 
EDIT: Actually, his impact lingers even into the EX series, where EX2 is all about some billionaire wanting to resurrect Goentiz to gain his abilities and using a boy with one of the sacred treasures to be Goentiz' temporary host. Even concept art for 94 and SNK's comments have them show that Chris with Goentiz's robes was always planned as the ultimate villain of the Orochi storyline from the get go before they split the character concepts into two. 

In a just world, the next arc after NESTS should have been about Duo Lon hunting Ron down while Kensou gets it together. 
 
Also, on Goentiz, according to SNK, he was a teenager when he gouged Rugal's eye out and as a 30 year old, murdered Chizuru's sister who was then only 12. He's despicable. 

That would explain why they were so awful. At first I thought it was him struggling to keep up with doing art for both KOF2000 and CVS1. 
 
Wish he stayed in SNK just to finish up NESTS at least but it's understandable why he left.