*.:White ShadoW:.*

Given that Wano took a year for just one night or something i'd say that's a given lol.
 
Also guess no one predicted that traitor eh

Honestly, I think Kidd is just being used as a plot device here to give Shanks the poneglyph etching.  Basically what's going on with Law and Blackbeard, except the way it's happening makes Kidd look pretty dumb for thinking he has a shot of winning head on with no support.

YES! Just as predicted!
 
Please Goda, please show us the fight and not the aftermath! 🙏

YES! Just as predicted!
 
Please Goda, please show us the fight and not the aftermath! 🙏

YES! Just as predicted!
 
Please Goda, please show us the fight and not the aftermath! 🙏

YES! Just as predicted!
 
Please Goda, please show us the fight and not the aftermath! 🙏

LMAO at those faces at the end. Oda and One Piece will go down in history for their incredible plot lines but also the most hilarious ugly facial reaction panels.

100% Co-Sign...
 
I have not a single ounce of hope in this "Western modern audience" translation of a unique series like this ever being good in any way shape or form. CW/ Netflix-fied One Piece makes me shudder at the thought. 
 
The funny thing is an honest fanmade short would probably be more charming even with cheesy SFX and homemade costumes, because it'd be produced by people with a genuine understanding and passion for the series rather than this crap. Like I don't care if the Luffy's actor is Brazilian or w/e this isn't what makes One Piece beloved.

100% Co-Sign...
 
I have not a single ounce of hope in this "Western modern audience" translation of a unique series like this ever being good in any way shape or form. CW/ Netflix-fied One Piece makes me shudder at the thought. 
 
The funny thing is an honest fanmade short would probably be more charming even with cheesy SFX and homemade costumes, because it'd be produced by people with a genuine understanding and passion for the series rather than this crap. Like I don't care if the Luffy's actor is Brazilian or w/e this isn't what makes One Piece beloved.

I'm totally against it, One Piece's wacky character designs and weird powers don't lend itself to live action at all. Literally no need to do this, but the curiosity in me wants to see how bad this train wreck will be

Still don't need this. No one asked for it. I don't care if it somehow turns out good I won't watch because I already have what I want in the manga and yes even the anime has its moments. 

Not that this means everything in the One Piece world but we've seen the size of the Gorosei compared to Admirals and Shanks and they're larger than normal. I have a feeling their fealty to Im is due to being living relics of the Void Century, likely surviving due to Ope Ope no Mi.
 
I said this a far while back but Doflamingo's grand plot in Dressrosa was basically replicating the machinations of "Mariejoa's Secret Treasure" aka Im. Im clearly has immortality, Doflamingo wanted the same immortality via Law performing the surgery. Im has an entire kingdom with a central core of ultra-loyalists maintaining everything, Doffy had the same for the most part. Doflamingo's Ito Ito no Mi ability is basically the physical manifestation of the puppeteering people to do his bidding, Im has been doing with the World  Government and its allies for centuries.
 
Doflamingo was trying to copy Im's playbook but couldn't due to Strawhat (Joyboy)  Luffy aka "God's Natural Enemy", especially since Im's main factor of control is their complete anonymity. It seems even the Admirals and CP0 are completely unaware of Im's existence. This allows a level of passive control and tyranny of society Donquixote couldn't imagine, which made him a clear target.
 
How does this tie into the Gorosei? Their loyalty was probably rewarded with immortality and power ages ago, the Gandhi dude with the giant almost certainly Legendary sword likely wielded it at some point. Each of them probably has some governance over a quadrant of the OP world. For example, the blonde youngest one controls the North Blue, etc...  In any case, this doesn't have to mean they are as proficient at fighting as a Yonko, but I'm sure they're no slouches. 
 
The real problem is that a Gorosei's command to the Seraphim  supersedes all other instructions, making his presence incredibly dangerous by default.
Oda did an amazing job of building up to this moment with Bad Future elderly Stussy.
 
PEAK PIECE!!!

Not that this means everything in the One Piece world but we've seen the size of the Gorosei compared to Admirals and Shanks and they're larger than normal. I have a feeling their fealty to Im is due to being living relics of the Void Century, likely surviving due to Ope Ope no Mi.
 
I said this a far while back but Doflamingo's grand plot in Dressrosa was basically replicating the machinations of "Mariejoa's Secret Treasure" aka Im. Im clearly has immortality, Doflamingo wanted the same immortality via Law performing the surgery. Im has an entire kingdom with a central core of ultra-loyalists maintaining everything, Doffy had the same for the most part. Doflamingo's Ito Ito no Mi ability is basically the physical manifestation of the puppeteering people to do his bidding, Im has been doing with the World  Government and its allies for centuries.
 
Doflamingo was trying to copy Im's playbook but couldn't due to Strawhat (Joyboy)  Luffy aka "God's Natural Enemy", especially since Im's main factor of control is their complete anonymity. It seems even the Admirals and CP0 are completely unaware of Im's existence. This allows a level of passive control and tyranny of society Donquixote couldn't imagine, which made him a clear target.
 
How does this tie into the Gorosei? Their loyalty was probably rewarded with immortality and power ages ago, the Gandhi dude with the giant almost certainly Legendary sword likely wielded it at some point. Each of them probably has some governance over a quadrant of the OP world. For example, the blonde youngest one controls the North Blue, etc...  In any case, this doesn't have to mean they are as proficient at fighting as a Yonko, but I'm sure they're no slouches. 
 
The real problem is that a Gorosei's command to the Seraphim  supersedes all other instructions, making his presence incredibly dangerous by default.
Oda did an amazing job of building up to this moment with Bad Future elderly Stussy.
 
PEAK PIECE!!!

Not that this means everything in the One Piece world but we've seen the size of the Gorosei compared to Admirals and Shanks and they're larger than normal. I have a feeling their fealty to Im is due to being living relics of the Void Century, likely surviving due to Ope Ope no Mi.
 
I said this a far while back but Doflamingo's grand plot in Dressrosa was basically replicating the machinations of "Mariejoa's Secret Treasure" aka Im. Im clearly has immortality, Doflamingo wanted the same immortality via Law performing the surgery. Im has an entire kingdom with a central core of ultra-loyalists maintaining everything, Doffy had the same for the most part. Doflamingo's Ito Ito no Mi ability is basically the physical manifestation of the puppeteering people to do his bidding, Im has been doing with the World  Government and its allies for centuries.
 
Doflamingo was trying to copy Im's playbook but couldn't due to Strawhat (Joyboy)  Luffy aka "God's Natural Enemy", especially since Im's main factor of control is their complete anonymity. It seems even the Admirals and CP0 are completely unaware of Im's existence. This allows a level of passive control and tyranny of society Donquixote couldn't imagine, which made him a clear target.
 
How does this tie into the Gorosei? Their loyalty was probably rewarded with immortality and power ages ago, the Gandhi dude with the giant almost certainly Legendary sword likely wielded it at some point. Each of them probably has some governance over a quadrant of the OP world. For example, the blonde youngest one controls the North Blue, etc...  In any case, this doesn't have to mean they are as proficient at fighting as a Yonko, but I'm sure they're no slouches. 
 
The real problem is that a Gorosei's command to the Seraphim  supersedes all other instructions, making his presence incredibly dangerous by default.
Oda did an amazing job of building up to this moment with Bad Future elderly Stussy.
 
PEAK PIECE!!!

Not that this means everything in the One Piece world but we've seen the size of the Gorosei compared to Admirals and Shanks and they're larger than normal. I have a feeling their fealty to Im is due to being living relics of the Void Century, likely surviving due to Ope Ope no Mi.
 
I said this a far while back but Doflamingo's grand plot in Dressrosa was basically replicating the machinations of "Mariejoa's Secret Treasure" aka Im. Im clearly has immortality, Doflamingo wanted the same immortality via Law performing the surgery. Im has an entire kingdom with a central core of ultra-loyalists maintaining everything, Doffy had the same for the most part. Doflamingo's Ito Ito no Mi ability is basically the physical manifestation of the puppeteering people to do his bidding, Im has been doing with the World  Government and its allies for centuries.
 
Doflamingo was trying to copy Im's playbook but couldn't due to Strawhat (Joyboy)  Luffy aka "God's Natural Enemy", especially since Im's main factor of control is their complete anonymity. It seems even the Admirals and CP0 are completely unaware of Im's existence. This allows a level of passive control and tyranny of society Donquixote couldn't imagine, which made him a clear target.
 
How does this tie into the Gorosei? Their loyalty was probably rewarded with immortality and power ages ago, the Gandhi dude with the giant almost certainly Legendary sword likely wielded it at some point. Each of them probably has some governance over a quadrant of the OP world. For example, the blonde youngest one controls the North Blue, etc...  In any case, this doesn't have to mean they are as proficient at fighting as a Yonko, but I'm sure they're no slouches. 
 
The real problem is that a Gorosei's command to the Seraphim  supersedes all other instructions, making his presence incredibly dangerous by default.
Oda did an amazing job of building up to this moment with Bad Future elderly Stussy.
 
PEAK PIECE!!!

It's hard to say how strong they are now but I suspect that they were at least very strong in their prime. It takes a lot of power to be able to hold people like the Admirals on a leash. Then again maybe Imu is the one who is holding everything together. But now that I think about it, people don't talk a lot about the Gorosei and we never even heard them fighting even in Roger's era... at least from what we know so far. I'm also curious to know what their connection with Shanks is. If they're not intimidated by him, I guess it tells us a bit more about how strong they could be.

Weevil being a clone of Whitebeard no lie does make more sense now with this chapter. 

I would like the fight to be manga accurate. Just like vs Doflamingo, once Luffy attains his new form Lucci should get mollywhopped like in manga canon. They can extend the initial clash but once Luffy goes into high gear there should be no dispute that G5 Luffy is wrecking shop. One of the things I hate about the timeskip era anime are the hyper-extended forced trades and clashes that show Luffy or Zoro struggling when these moments never happened. It cheapens the moment and makes them look weaker.
 
Luffy's King Kong Gun obliterated Doflamingo's Heavenly Threads in the manga but in the anime it showed Luffy struggling for 3 minutes, which makes no sense because of how the attack works, this isn't a beam clash. Conversely, Kaido's Thunder Bagua in the manga utterly speed blitzed G4 Luffy before he could even move which showed how dominant he was, but the anime retcons things which takes away from the narrative quality. Those are my two cents anyway.
 
That said, that depiction of Luffy vs Lucc part deux is fantastic, mucho props to the creator.

Lucci is such a damn hater...
 
 

I would like the fight to be manga accurate. Just like vs Doflamingo, once Luffy attains his new form Lucci should get mollywhopped like in manga canon. They can extend the initial clash but once Luffy goes into high gear there should be no dispute that G5 Luffy is wrecking shop. One of the things I hate about the timeskip era anime are the hyper-extended forced trades and clashes that show Luffy or Zoro struggling when these moments never happened. It cheapens the moment and makes them look weaker.
 
Luffy's King Kong Gun obliterated Doflamingo's Heavenly Threads in the manga but in the anime it showed Luffy struggling for 3 minutes, which makes no sense because of how the attack works, this isn't a beam clash. Conversely, Kaido's Thunder Bagua in the manga utterly speed blitzed G4 Luffy before he could even move which showed how dominant he was, but the anime retcons things which takes away from the narrative quality. Those are my two cents anyway.
 
That said, that depiction of Luffy vs Lucc part deux is fantastic, mucho props to the creator.

I would like the fight to be manga accurate. Just like vs Doflamingo, once Luffy attains his new form Lucci should get mollywhopped like in manga canon. They can extend the initial clash but once Luffy goes into high gear there should be no dispute that G5 Luffy is wrecking shop. One of the things I hate about the timeskip era anime are the hyper-extended forced trades and clashes that show Luffy or Zoro struggling when these moments never happened. It cheapens the moment and makes them look weaker.
 
Luffy's King Kong Gun obliterated Doflamingo's Heavenly Threads in the manga but in the anime it showed Luffy struggling for 3 minutes, which makes no sense because of how the attack works, this isn't a beam clash. Conversely, Kaido's Thunder Bagua in the manga utterly speed blitzed G4 Luffy before he could even move which showed how dominant he was, but the anime retcons things which takes away from the narrative quality. Those are my two cents anyway.
 
That said, that depiction of Luffy vs Lucc part deux is fantastic, mucho props to the creator.

I would like the fight to be manga accurate. Just like vs Doflamingo, once Luffy attains his new form Lucci should get mollywhopped like in manga canon. They can extend the initial clash but once Luffy goes into high gear there should be no dispute that G5 Luffy is wrecking shop. One of the things I hate about the timeskip era anime are the hyper-extended forced trades and clashes that show Luffy or Zoro struggling when these moments never happened. It cheapens the moment and makes them look weaker.
 
Luffy's King Kong Gun obliterated Doflamingo's Heavenly Threads in the manga but in the anime it showed Luffy struggling for 3 minutes, which makes no sense because of how the attack works, this isn't a beam clash. Conversely, Kaido's Thunder Bagua in the manga utterly speed blitzed G4 Luffy before he could even move which showed how dominant he was, but the anime retcons things which takes away from the narrative quality. Those are my two cents anyway.
 
That said, that depiction of Luffy vs Lucc part deux is fantastic, mucho props to the creator.

I would like the fight to be manga accurate. Just like vs Doflamingo, once Luffy attains his new form Lucci should get mollywhopped like in manga canon. They can extend the initial clash but once Luffy goes into high gear there should be no dispute that G5 Luffy is wrecking shop. One of the things I hate about the timeskip era anime are the hyper-extended forced trades and clashes that show Luffy or Zoro struggling when these moments never happened. It cheapens the moment and makes them look weaker.
 
Luffy's King Kong Gun obliterated Doflamingo's Heavenly Threads in the manga but in the anime it showed Luffy struggling for 3 minutes, which makes no sense because of how the attack works, this isn't a beam clash. Conversely, Kaido's Thunder Bagua in the manga utterly speed blitzed G4 Luffy before he could even move which showed how dominant he was, but the anime retcons things which takes away from the narrative quality. Those are my two cents anyway.
 
That said, that depiction of Luffy vs Lucc part deux is fantastic, mucho props to the creator.