CESTUS III

@Darc_Requiem Found something that may hint new feature of future WTM expansion and explain why hair options sucks so much lol In Beat Square, main place of MC and where we have Body Editor and first/main clothes store, just between them there's an hair cuts salon (atm not possible to interact with) The interesting part is the placement imho, because it's essentially between the two current editor/avatar places of the square Guess we will end up pay for cooler, unique haircuts just like we pay clothes in beat square Or maybe you pay haircut just once and it get added on editor Only "normal" npc haircut i can think as currently missing from creation mode is sumo guys in Urban Park area (those at Honda's place with "chonmage" haircut) Wonder if we will get more unique NPC haircuts too, in that case list would include Carlos DamnD Rudra Eternity Fang (+ unique beard too) Azam (+ unique beard too) I'm intentionally leaving out Bosch, because imho does'nt feel made with editor tool and base, and may have different destiny as main cast stuff Btw would be fun get also haircuts of main cast lol... actually even better would be get ones of former main cast that will NOT return Curiously no female NPC so far seems to have unique haircut... possibly Alice have slighty modified version of an existing one, but the few others have normal editor ones Now that i think about it also the strong sumo lady may have unique hair, but not sure if is same chonmage i mentioned for some Honda's dudes PS: just discovered even Bosch have full name: Bosch Waraya Waraya apparently in real world it's very rare surname, but clean majority of these few is in Indonesia That's a second hint of Bosch being inspired name wise to Indonesia... i know it's surely first a wink to BoF char and SF6 Bosch is from Nayshall, but "Bosch" beig dutch name in s-e asia link to Indonesia too So somehow both name and surname may make sense in Indonesia Just make Bosch Pencak Silat rep damn it LOL PPS: in front that hair salon we get also this red gi karateka guy with stand full of wood barrels, guess in future there we may get variant of

Cool Ryu piece, wish he looked like that ingame, with just rough bit unkept wolfish face hair rather than full thick beard Another BW art here seem hint they had that in mind at some point

I'm starting to think he may also be the nigerian Prince asking everybody for money via email lol

Yeah, that may support that was their initial intention, may add @Miðgarðsormfound JP being based o a movie russian villain (even if that may apply to Joah Petrovich alias*) WFrom same picture we also got Lily who gone through self-censorship, as somebody probably suggested that her original design (imho better) you can see in same page was probably too anachronistic/stereotype and at risk of become target of outrage police Last difference i can see is Akuma having usual red hair (now is white), but that obviously have nothing to do with self-censorship and likely just been made in order to have default look showing still big age gap with Ryu after timeskip Make also sense, considering in SF3TS we had an hint of AKuma's hair color starting to change already and that was years before SF& *IF multiple names was in their idea from begin wonder if "Jean Philippe" would also look very different, or just be same JP we see signing with another name

Got one OC of that already made too; female krav maga rep, with 20something israeli woman soldier called Shira who got fashion model look, as that kinda a popular gimmick of IDF internet imagery Of course current events make something like that impossible on official game cast, but sill An alternative route to dodge problems would be have Krav Maga not necessary linked to a Israeli char/IDF, for example even with already existing char i would love if C.VIPER to get Krav Maga as martial art(wich she combines with gadgets) We never had clear hint on her fighting style, and Krav Maga is apparently one of the possible styles teached to some CIA agents Example one kinda popular KM figure is a former CIA agent Not sure JP as russian got censored, i believe russian was just the declared nationality for his Johan Petrovich mask... just like probably he pretended to be french/belgian when acting as Jean Philippe Is possible Capcom toned down it omitting where Petrovich is supposed to come from, but after all was still just a mask and we don't know actual JP origins Another possibility is that they straight completely made up the whole multiple alias thing as trick to dodge him being just russian But tbh i believe first case, SF just love to give people with mysterious past/identity strange names made of letters (JP, G, Q, F.A.N.G., A.K.I.) to keep the mystery going on

My only problem with it is that i will prefer see this guy back But if Arnis stick fighter make it and i can use his/her style for Eagle, would be ok with it lol Would welcome much more a bare-handed Pencak Silat rep, but for that Indonesian or Malaysian is probably better... indeed according to @Miðgarðsormtranslation one of SFV dropped unused concepts was a military/guerrilla style malaysian woman who used Pencak Silat* *of course i recreated her in SF6 too🤣

@Dragonfave723thanks super cool info Still believe Gina Carano (female mixed martial artist from America) played a role in Marisa's face look Would not be a first either for SF 3D modellers to take real people as straight look inspiration, see Bob Sapp-Birdie just for quick example Lol, fun thing two of my original characters are a short but wide af mongolian grappler who's Bokh (mongolian wrestling) rep and one old, baba yaga vibes creepy eastern lady who uses Hopak and Psycho Power Even got some SF style profiles written as guideline for design (simple stuff, not deep and long as my bro @Darc_Requiem), remember the mongolian guy was so shameless 101% stereotype that while flat/basic af he was one of my fav for the straight SFness of it lol Remember made him obsessed with mongol heritage, wanting to be best grappler of asia and hating hard on Honda, Hakan and Darun 😆 Likes: Mongol heritage, Temjin (his hawk), mutton roast Hates: Chankonabe, olive oil, curry Rival: Honda, Hakan, Darun 🤣 Not sure why they included Hopak to have "same rules" of sumo too, Hopak is a dance (with movements that can remember kicks) from cossacks war culture and even counting that thing called "Combat Hopak" still does'nt seem even grappling based But yes make the mongolian wrestler moveset different from Honda's was kinda tricky, but could nott resist give him Honda's Lv3 lol

Eh i could not do that even wanting it At this point approximately i think i have something like 15-20 SF recreations 5 SFEX recreations 10-15 redesigns/development of unused SF concepts 15-20 totally original characters 5-10 capcom guests or SF NPCs 10? guests And keep switch between them to update their model or see if some new found piece will improve their costume etc Within one hour on WTM i probably change char 2-3 times lol As much seems a chaotic method i realized for me works better than focus on one char each time... many times i find a new gimmick that will be perfect with one, and quickly realize i can use a variant of same trick on 2-3 other models that i did'nt updated for a while Cool thing is the more i understand SF6 stylization the more last creations have different look than very early ones, so constant rework way somehow manage to update early ones to the level of most recent On negative side i will maybe never release my "collection" as i ever feel that once i show a char properly (make a YT vid showing a montage of his moveset on a vs with main char in main char stage), two weeks later i will get some new thing that make me improve the char and hate my vid about his/her previous version lol Even more those that have items perfect for them already in the WTM, but at the moment locked by these capcom cunts lol These are the worst, i think i have more than half of my creations that are waiting to get stuff already ingame 🥲

Also would be nice the name showing up near tue health bar to change based on wich saved-avatar we are using Does'nt make much sense to me to save Fei Long as "Fei Long" and still see "V.Rosso" as name when i play with it lol

If i could make a wishlist, one point would be have the possibility to save costume preferences stuff in same slot we save the body That would mean 100 costumes, each linked to a specific created character as the default look for it

You're welcome 👍 Remember that you can save not only your K in creation mode, but you can also save in equipment menu up to 10(? iirc) equipment combinations, wich will keep also 3D items with very same positions/size you gave it Essentially you will be able to do something else with creation and play as different chars, but whenever you want recover your K just as you made it with 2 clicks (1 in editor and 1 n equipment menu) One more advice i can offer is don't be afraid to make the char look "deformed" without clothes on, multi-layered kind of editors have huge problem with very lean chars (like K can be, specially if designed by some artists), the only thing that really matter to achieve a certain result is final look when all clothes/full costume are on... easy way to make life easier, specially with recreations, is compose the costume first and then model the char with clothes already on, made my work so much easier

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The laurel is symbol of victory So if we want continue reasoning of before and risk try to "read" the emblem meaning, could be that after Shadaloo destruction (broken thunder) and driven by wisdom (owl supporting it) Neo Shadaloo will achieve victory (laurel)

Cool we got much more clean confirmation his symbol now is indeed an owl, on the flag was'nt as clear 👍 Going a bit by reasoning/theory the owl under the thunders logo may be supposed to represent NS will be driven by wisdom (wich i suppose will be JP pretending to be just advisor while telling them what to do) I think is also first time i notice Neo Shadaloo logo are two thunders overlapped to form N and S, and may be wrong but wanting to find a double meaning seems is also as if the small one is a crack in the big one, as to sybolize Shadaloo's destruction... to pick the reasoning before, as to say "after Shadaloo destruction, Neo Shadaloo will be driven by wisdom"? At risk of read too much into it, Ed may be the NS thunder (the power), JP the owl (the wisdom)... i like the duality, remind me this recent pic If we imagine a Neo Shadaloo where Ed represent power and JP the mind, all the reasoning with @DarthEnderXabout JP giving no fucks about losing fights/being not best at fighting may gain bit more logic and harm bit less JP's figure, because even within the new org he may not be the "top fighter" and cover the role of brain... so lose in a violence contest will not touch his self esteem lol 😁 But i'm not sure Ed is necessary superior to him in 1v1/fighter sense I mean he can be, Ed was already good fighter before timeskip and had years to improve his PP skills, but something about his design does'nt sell him to me as edgy anime overpowered char I think they may bean alliance less based on very individual "power level" and more on a general sense as the union of their inheritance from Shadaloo's collapse Ed may have the control of men and even more of special individuals, as former shadaloo rejects will follow him but not JP and he may cover a more operative on the field role JP may have the control of money, as that's straight follow up of his previous role, and he would likely use his mind to set up the strategies This kind of NS structure would be cool af to me, because while looking an even division at first could reflect A LOT JP's mindset of chess player with himself being the King and Ed the Queen Looking the chessboard the Queen looks more powerful and dynamic than the King, roam around the field fast wrecking shit helped by other pieces The King piece feel weaker and does'nt move much, ideally better stay far from the action and be protected Seen like this Queen looks like best piece, but reality is Queen may die and you can still win the game, the King survival is #1 essential rule of chess Queen is worth 9 points, being second most valuable piece (Bishop and Knight 3, Rook 5) after the King... but when you think King's points value is essentially "infinite", even 9 points make the Queen just a glorified and still expendable piece What i would love of this is that JP's "frail" aura is exactly what chess King feels like, it's not necessary weak in terms of powers (can still move/attack in all directions) but any decent piece can threat it Warning, silly crazy theory shit May very well be huge mental-fapping on my side, but if they look for that chess thing would be awesome Going even further Falke/Knife/Gorilla may even work as the 3 piece types that help the Queen Falke as Bishop, closest to the Queen and you can use it as "sniper" to hit/cover very long range Knife as the Knight, have unique mobility and can "jump" over pieces (Knife have teleport) Gorilla as the Rook, very powerful but specially at begin fat ass piece hard to move (fun fact even higher score than Falke/Knife could make sense for JP, Gorilla would be only able to rival his mind, as he got Bison's intellect) Normal NS soldiers may be the pawns, they're lot, individually weak and super expendable lol

Was it? Did'nt realized was just few pics, ever thought was an actual legit full manga... then maybe i've seen all of it 👍

I did, but i remember i've just watched it, not downloaded, so i would have to restart the research all over again What i never found is complete scan of Murata's SF manga

👍 Give up the glasses will indeed help you do the hand thing as you can add the mask The hand-paint thing i mentioned may by bit tricky to find if one does'nt know already (maybe you do), because the icon itself does'nt suggest much It's a sticker that place automatically on right hand (without alternative position option), would cover what you need perfectly Mr.Karate is a great idea considering we have already most of the pieces we need I guess when Akuma get released you will be able to upgrade him on moveset side too So far from SNK i just made months ago Terry and Joe, but i'm waiting better pieces (and movesets) to consider them complete lol

Carlos sunglasses may do the job well, even if you can't color them Fun detail one could use black fingerless gloves, then add the right--hand paint and make it vivid metallic red to recreate a bit this situation if one accept sacrifice sunglasses, could be added a 3D red object (personally would use red version of skull mask), to add some more red on right back-hand overlapping the black glove Done well result should be nice

That's a good theory, thre's some stuff supporting it We know he say he's still learning use PP Seem currently he's also using it in "safe" way trying to use just as much he needs... for what we know about PP i guess he will not unleash the full extent of his own PP till he abandon himself to it like in that foreshadow ending you say, plus Ken still have to get his revenge fight This may indeed be true Boss JP But on other side SF have special talent at tease this kind of stuff and then not deliver... i'm thinking Necalli and G both having an actual artwork of their true/full power version, but never ending up do it ingame (so far) lol Personally i would like see a Boss fight with JP that goes all-in becoming on par with Bison (basic, no Bison+machines), as long they don't waste slots for a character's alt version.... just make a "shin" unplayable version of him with some overpowered unique shit, like they do with some CPU bossess I was thinking stuff like this When he use "ze" instead of "the" (ze tournament) i thought it's supposed to be a thing to imitate specifically german accent

All i know is if he have an italian one too first name is Jacopo as it's like only italian name with J lol 😁 FANG seems to know him as "JP" rather than Johan or Jean, so i guess the names gimmick was used just outside Shadaloo to interact with normal people society Kinda same way FANG uses Fang Fei i guess Now that i think about it, did'nt he had german-like accent in Udon's comic?

Speaking of JP wonder if he's the one who teached Falke to fight with a cane, their styles match and now we have cacon confirmation he's close to Ed (and by default to Falke) He could have been part of that "german speaking" part of the Shadaloo HQ Guess when we will meet her as NPC this winter we will get an answer

Well, beyond that specific fight i consider FANG to be -thanks to poison- more or less around same range.. she had extra motivation as she was fighting for Li Fen too, kinda like Rashid fighting for revenge/justice whatever won second fight with FANG too Of those who beated up FANG only cases of clear superiority were imho Bison (who after looked invincible from FANG's perspective) and Ken who toyed with him without effort, but i consider Ken pretty above Chun My 2cent is AKI -as today- is likely to be less powerful than FANG (i will not be surprised if one day she will kill FANG though), who got more extreme training for years, got years of experience as assassin/fighter and teached her both martial arts and poison use But i can see him sending her after people like Chun or Rashid (another who defeated FANG), for three things - Her mission did'nt felt much about direct destruction of an enemy (wich in fact FANG told her to DON'T do) where "power level" would be more relevant, she seem to have more espionage/intimidation/messenger role so far. If FANG wanted them dead he could have joined her on the mission imho On smaller scale AKI felt lot like Kolin for Gill imho - Send her was also because both Rashid and Chun already know FANG as an enemy, so AKI had greater chance at get closer to them For similar reason FANG also lost great advantage they did'nt knew of his poison hand first time, AKI still have that edge This apply to JP too who open saying they "haven't been introduced" - Just like FANG, AKI's use of poison allow her to be dangerous against opponents that are much more powerful on terms of pure fighting ability/potential so you can send her after big dogs... just remember how Vega and Rog together were still treating FANG as a serious threat in ASF, despite 2v1 all while both being on paper better fighters (i think Vega alone would murder FANG tbh, even counting poison) Other thing she is'nt a pure fighter, she's an assassin first... so on theory she can stealth approach a superior fighter and poison him/her rather than challenge for a martial arts fight... there's even a line on her WTM intro where she say when victim realize to have been poisoned is already too late Yeah i indeed think he does'nt care because "fighting" is not the field where he care to win (even if after obtaining psycho power he's starting to like it) as long he still achieve shit getting done according to his plan If we listen his words he does'nt consider violence best way to reach power and rule I guess before obtaining PP, as simple Bartitsu expert he was used to be great but non-exceptional fighter in Shadaloo world where you had Sagat, Vega, Rog or even FANG himself with his poison All this make sense, but for how he's represented still wish his great mind and strategy sense could have becomed an HUGE asset once combined with Psycho Power (wich he use with great variety/proficency, even if he say he's still green at it)... see him getting beated up by middle tiers (i'm throwing on that range our avatar too) kinda harm his figure as Boss, specially considering he could have been truly memorable one... while we now know he's likely just sub-boss material, useful to make story move waiting bigger pieces

Yesterday just realized i did'nt yet done the arcade with AKI, is kinda interesting Timestamped at boss fight intro Some points - Guess could be considered canon rather than "what if" -Kinda sad see how they insist on estabilish JP as not that great fighter... it's one of best SF bosses concept wise, but on canon side seems FANG level lol, combat wise maybe even below (as AKI defeat him and we can assume FANG is better than her at very same game) -i find interesting through AKI's perspective we may inclined take JP's words as a lie and that he's working using Ed as a tool, but if we stick to what he say is possible he believe ED will have leader position and he (JP) will recover his previous role in the org as the treasurer... maybe he believe Bison's power will take over Ed as foreshadowed by SFV ending? Fact he's investing in Neo Shadaloo make me think some level of corruption is already going on He seem -at the moment- having not much issue with the fact fighters more powerful than him to exist, so maybe he's ok with a powered-up Ed to take the throne based on force level, maybe believing he will still be able to pull the strings from his former treasurer position (assuming Ed become just a corrupted powerful Ed and NOT fully possessed by Bison mind)

Also lol at capcom actually using hybrid moveset for promotional vid, but absolutely forgetting they can use it for all these WTM NPCs 🥲

Love it, but wish we got more items Guess will have to split it to get at least two OCs out of it lol Also BH store update has been shit lately (only added useless pro-tournaments badges)