CESTUS III

Have no hope for Joe in start cast but pray is'nt further than Season1 🕯️🙏🕯️

Also Gato

 

 

Where are his detractors now

8 minutes ago, BornWinner said:

I missed the kumite because I was watching the SNK finals, but what is this?

 

 

What gets me is that he is so sure about this. He must’ve come from another dimension.

 

 

Plot twist, Guile was crouching whole time so nobody ever noticed he was there

21 minutes ago, TWINBLADES said:

Kaine is gonna be the JP of this game and I'm gonna hate all of the edge lords that are gonna main him.

If make you feel better, 25% of them will pick Evil Remy

 

10 hours ago, TWINBLADES said:

 

 

 

I’m 100% sold this look incredible holy shit 

 

Overall good, will likely buy

On art style side some stuff piss me off

-Shadows being super dark, i understand artwork style they was looking for but ingame at times give me shitty MvC3 vibes

Wish they went more like

-Too fucking much fireworks going on and random filter effects just to be flashy, SF6 got same disease

-Beside the fact will have to wait DLC for Joe (wich is tragedy itself, will probably wait Joe's release lol) Joe's apprentice design is atrocious... feels like overdesigned shit that SNK often throw on new kids (capcom to some extent did on Kimberly but there kinda works)

Tbh costume wise some ideas are even cool, mostly it's the head as a whole to suck, cut it off lol

Old one was much better, even if would have took bit work to be modernized a bit

Would probably straight slap new costume on old concept character, would probably work lol

 

54 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

Elena, Vega and Mika are all A+ picks.  Bison is too soon, like you said.  Sakura is what it is.  A shoto every season is just expected.

Well Elena was my first female pick so glad for it

 

Vega and Mika as said are characters i like to jump in, simply could have waited them for S3 or S4 and get other chars instead, as i just miss some other characters more

 

If we want accept a shoto must be in every season (wich there's no reason to be, beside fanbase bad taste) at this point would have much prefered get Sean... but again SF fanbase and their love for sakura, so it is what it is

10 hours ago, Dragonfave723 said:

From Reddit. Take this with a grain of salt.

 

Mixed feels about this

 

One side 6 characters is awesome and should be the standard, on the other they say S3 will likely return to lesser number retardness

On bright side this S2 leave us missing so many big names that make me think we will get at least S3 and S4, specially if after S2 they return to 4chars shit model

 

Character selection is VERY far from what i would have done, beside Elena being my first female pick that would have been in S1 (or even start cast) if was made by me

S2 and still not Muay Thai rep, SFV retardness again with the risk of S3 being too small to get Adon/Sagat in 😞

 

Char by char, best to worst

 

Elena - Right thing to do

Vega - Did'nt had him as needed as soon as possible because there are other chars i need more, but i ever appreciate see him be in

R.Mika - i surely welcome her, but similar argument as Vega

M.Bison - too fucking soon, would have given that slot to one of the many missing chars and have SF6 story breath without have Bison bs again and again as the focus

Sakura - SF fanbase is a fucking joke, enjoy 4th hadoken shoryuken ansatsuken shit while many better and more different characters have to wait 1-2 years or don't make it at all

 

Btw beside Elena, would change other 4 if i could lol

 

Separate

New Male - Too soon to speak of course, but glad they're willing to keep deliver new characters, specially if males, since SF6 start cast has been poor at it and S1 was AKI.

Since they say either middle eastern or african, i hope will be african... SF never had male char repping an african nation

Wonder if may get Dambe or Laamb as fight style

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, -PVL93- said:

Mika fans are about to burn Capcom HQ because they'll hide her ass like they did Cammy 

 

Eh it's same shit they did with cammy and best route possible

They pretend to please american bullshit, then still give girls classic stuff as nostalgia free alt you unlock ingame

 

On 3/12/2024 at 4:08 AM, CESTUS III said:

- If we want give Ryu's cherry blossom importance we may think at Sakura meaning = cherry blossom

Ryu as Master at some point have a line about Sakura that hint something during timeskip years may have happened

"At the time, she still seemed like a child. Before I knew it, she had grown up and ・・・・・・" (その時、まだ子供だと思えた彼女はいつの間にか成長して・・・・・・)

Iirc we got some dev saying Ken have been confirmed to be stronger than ever when fighting for his family, somebody to fight for may be the piece Ryu was missing

Forgot to add how sfv Sakura had something kinda similar going on in terms of energy manifestation 😄 

 

 

😄

5 minutes ago, YagamiFire said:

An interesting thing to note is the high damage to Sagat along the middle part of his body's chakra points where Emotional Masculine Yang energy is regulated. After this damage to  him, Sagat becomes vengeful and obsessive with his aggression towards Ryu. A disorder of the yang. Neat stuff.

Cool thought

To support that even before get vengeful/obsessed (SF2) he had a phase of mental weakness/depression (SFA) where he lost to Adon and Dee Jay... iirc at that point was said he did'nt recovered fully, not sure if physically, mentally or both

2 hours ago, bakfromon said:

Although, Sagat has always performed Tiger Uppercut without a launching knee like the Shoryu.

 

Possibly because even Sagat knew that adding such impact without good judgment would probably end in disaster.

The fun thing is to some extent more than the rising fist is the knee sticked forward as the Ansatsuken trademark, if you see most other "clones" that developed their own version either keep it backward (Sagat, Dan, Luke, Dudley) or don't stick it out (Sakura, who at best use her hip)

 

Sean is an interesting case

At first he did the srk like his master Ken, but then developed the Dragon Smash wich SEEM to break the form for the forward knee, but if you watch it slow motion you see there's one frame showing on reality he still keept it very similar to Ryu and Ken

 

Another particular one is Seth, who does it with forward knee as movement, and even switch to other knee to add more strikes

To fit his gimmick of duplicate moves and try to evolve them, he still keept the knee

 

I agree with you on how Ryu seem to distribute the damage "evenly" through entire figure with the possible intention of neutralize opponent without overkill striking repeatedly on same target, Shin Shoryuken seems to aim the 3 main ki centers, if you watch this Ryu literally goes Middle -> Upper -> Lower

 

I think you may be spot on on the "benevolent" intention behind it, specially if we consider he know he's using SnH, so given his history with it make only sense he's very careful at not unleash it uncontrolled... he seem confident to be able to "dose" it just enough to deliver powerful strike without murder intention

8 hours ago, bakfromon said:

 

The whole Ryu petal training is a callback to the Nakahira manga and his Third Strike ending. At the beginning of the manga, it was explained that part of Gouken's teachings included Ryu and Ken using their energy to coax a leaf down from a tree and into their hands. 
During the SF3 ending we see Ryu himself saying he's far from even telling where the leaves would fall although he is keen enough to catch a few in his hand by chance.

 

Thanks, had memories of the SF3 ending, but not about that part of the manga 👍

That's definitely spot on!

Speaking of SF anime/manga to some extent SF6 Master intro with silent Ryu training by "just" stand there waiting to reach right harmony then throwing a single  shoryuken remind me also SF2tAM Ryu training, very similar scene too

(timestamped)

 

9 hours ago, bakfromon said:

In contrast to Akuma's hardstyle training which focuses solely on destruction, Ryu's style is more so akin to Gouken's now more than ever. 

That's why i mentioned how hard as fuck Ryu flex that arm in his cherry blossom SF6 cutscene 😁

I like how rather than go for some cliche where you have hard way physical badass vs spiritual Daniel La Russo wimp, we get hint Ryu's path bring him to find the balance to master both

 

After all we even see how Capcom increased Akuma's body mass to express his increasing focus on power/destruction, yet Gouken the spiritual bro... was still built as a fucking silverback gorilla on steroids 😆

After all Gouken is our Mas Oyama, and Oyama beside lifting, punching logs and breaking bulls horns also had attention for meditation, that's like how we find Ryu in SF6

 

Even if to be fair i don't consider Akuma's path void of spirituality... actually his path make him think more about heaven than earth

I think they did great job with first punches of SF6 akuma trailer, the super slow ones. You could see there's the physical conditioning side, but also feels like meditiation

 

Is just that Akuma vision feels... "limited", as a man chosing to self-blind one eye to focus one the other

 

9 hours ago, bakfromon said:

Akuma probably knows he's failed in trying to goad Ryu into succumbing to SnH and he's giving up on trying to convert him over and is preparing for their next meeting

Yeah, feel like they settled it well with SFV Akuma story where we seen him developing this decision

"your pure fist of humanity, Mu no Ken and my demon god fist... now heaven and earth, light and dark will clash!"

At first Akuma in SFV thought that was the day to test his fist against Ryu's MnK (and felt kinda disappointed to how low effort victory was*), then realized Ryu (who at that point i think already defeated Necalli and destroyed ASF Bison) is still just working on develop his own path, and realized only way to consider the fight result legit is to wait Ryu to be ready too

 

Wich is fair if we think despite being much older and accomplished Akuma still trained/evolved between SF4 and SFV, and likely trained/evolved through SF3 and up to SF6

 

Coolest detail to me was that through the vid Akuma keep call him "boy", yet at the very end of the vid when he declare that will wait he finally calls him "Ryu" as if he just recognized him as worth of true respect

The boy became a man, but now he have to wait the man to be ready... wich i think is where SF6 Ryu is

 

 

*the kinda strange part is him in SFV feeling like he had in Ryu's MnK some sort of ultimate test, yet we know there's Gouken's MnK in SF4 wich already proven successful against him... twice as strange if we think his story mode open with him taking on unfinished business of the past with Gen.

Wonder why

Maybe he never had the chance to rematch again Gouken, but defeat a "complete" Ryu who incarnate his teachings would be a moral victory over Gouken's MnK too... after all it's not necessary about the individual involved, it's the path of demon god fist against the path f humanity, to finally see wich is superior and the correct way for true strenght

 

And Goutetsu was an asshole lol

The day of his death when he seems satisfied with Akuma's embracing SnH path, maybe was'nt satisfied of Akuma himself (if SnH was the right path why did'nt fully embraced it himself as only way) but by the fact Akuma taking that route would in future give one day Anstasuken style the test it needs to evolve

 

Cray how after all these years we are still essentilly watching the question about who is the true Goutetsu's successor (kinda like good old Hokuto no Ken days lol), with Akuma currently still wearing his prayer beads (Akuma constantly disreprect gods, that object to him is just a declaration to be the rightful Ansatsuken heir)

 

Maybe reading too much into it but little detail i found interesting now that i think about it is that Goutetsu was portrayed also a bojutsu user (staff wielding techniques)

wich i gave no importance to at first, but now that we go on it's interesting how unlike many other weapons the japanese bo require the ability to use both opposite tips... a bojutsu master is able to fight hitting with both tips, wich is kinda how Goutetsu was able to switch in and out from normal to SnH through fight

 

This part is missing in Akuma's path, his fist is more like a katana (or to keep the staff parallel, a spear) where only one side of the weapon is the one used to attack... meanwhile we seen Ryu in SF6 handle both (him controlling SnH at begin of Shin Shoryuken)

 

It's curious if we think watching Ryu/Akuma SF6 cutscenes the Shoryuken seem to symbolize for both respective paths to express Ansatsuken, and kinda like bojutsu shoryuken involve an upper tip (fist) and a lower tip (knee), and in SF6 they gave more emphasis than usual on the knee hit, making it a move that strike evenly on upper/heaven/fist side and lower/earth/knee (...and kinda in the middle with first uppercut)

In japanese martial arts heaven/earth is often used to mean high/low

Very very first definition of SF shoryuken is

Quote

"Attack from a low position, throwing an uppercut and knee kick." from Fighting Street manual.

Not sure if i'm explaining it well, but what i'm trying to say is that if shoryuken will be the technique used to declare Ansastuken worthy successor seems Akuma who thinks only about heaven and threw away earth (his humanity) already missed the original meaning of the move

 

ps: is fun at first i fucking hated the knee to be so evident in SF6, because found more pleasant visually the move to focus on the fist only... iirc even debated this with somebody before SF6 launch, not sure if was you or somedy else, we write so much lol

Iirc i was even trying to blame it on camera angle, thought move animation did shit job at show how the chin strike was(or should be in my mind) main focus, while i was wrong and actually even if "uncool" there may be very good reason knee is getting some spotlight too

Now that the move done like that may have a symbolic meaning (that i ever missed lol) for whole Ansatsuken style i can live with it much more lol😆

Fun thing is SFV almost had legit yeti lol

 

 

 

Quote

 

"It feels like the year passed by very quickly, the development team has been working incredibly hard to continue creating a variety of content, and we've been watching all types of players playing the game on a regular basis. A lot has happened in the last year, and it truly has flown by.

 

Besides being able to us Akuma in matches, players will be able to encounter him as a master in World Tour - similar to other characters from Year 1. Players can also become Akuma's students and embark on a variety of new missions. In addition, players will be able to visit his Gokuento stage in World Tour. I hope you're looking forward to this, but that's not all.

 

We're also adding some sound-related features, as well as thinking about events for the Battle Hub."

 

"Last but not least, we're currently working on Year 2 content and hope you're looking forward to what's coming next."

 

- Takayuki Nakayama

 

 

Got to admit great trailer regardless me hating Akuma's inclusion (specially as soon as Season 1) lol

Can't wait Akuma to be finally released so we can move on Season 2 and hopefully cast will get cool additions

 

 

Few thought/random stuff

 

- Gokuento stage looks nice location even if not my fav type, hopefully will get it's own flight location/merchant in WTM... wich is likely considering every S1 char had teaser in their own WTM place (hopefully they don't place it in Nayshall caves lol, we ever had confirmation cave was in Japan?)

 

-I love they made up the red spirit thing, if we are forced to get Akuma, at least invent all possible bullshit to distance him from Ryu/Ken

It's not first time we see something similar in SF6, without count JP's "ghosts" i'm thinking more Dhalsim's golden "divine" hands he have on perfect parry

(time-stamped)

Impressive feat is that Sim who's very specialized on ki control could do for a glimpse to lesser extent and on very specific perfect situation, while Akuma seems able to pull it at will

 

-If somebody did'nt paused at black and white frames, it shows Ryu's first Master cutscene, with Ryu doing his Shoryuken on a single cherry blossom petal

(timestamped)

Beside hinting maybe Akuma finally consider him ready, what i really like is the symmetry of the two cutscenes

Both go for some sort of "ultimate" shoryuken

Both have a their soul/power taking shape in a mythical figure

Ryu is punching one of the lightest/delicate object, while Akuma is punching one(two) of the hardest/heaviest

 

Last line is super interesting to me because it sells the dfference of their paths... on surface one could guess Akuma punching the stone is training "harder" wich will result in greater strenght, yet we see Ryu too is flexing hard as fuck (would say even more than Lv3 Shin Shoryu) all the muscle of his arm before punching the petal, guess his focus is deliver the most powerful strike while at same time not destroying the petal itself

Remind me a lot when in ASF he throw an huge af hadouken straight through Chun Li/Li Fen without harm them and at same time destroying all the ceiling pieces that were crumbling on their heads

Also this (completely OT lol)

 

-With Akuma training on striking giant statues wonder if he have anything to do with the hole in Nayshall's one chest

wich wink hard at

wich would be fun "coincidence" if we think that even if not canon, that scar is supposed to be caused by Akuma's fist (in Ryu Final manga where is taken from)

 

- The thing of punch gods statues is not casual, it mirror "fists with ambitions so great, they seek to soar beyond the very heavens"

He does'nt hesitate to desecrate gods statues, as his path is pure blasphemy and that's his challenge to do fucking something about it if they dare to challenge his fist

 

- If we want give Ryu's cherry blossom importance we may think at Sakura meaning = cherry blossom

Ryu as Master at some point have a line about Sakura that hint something during timeskip years may have happened

"At the time, she still seemed like a child. Before I knew it, she had grown up and ・・・・・・" (その時、まだ子供だと思えた彼女はいつの間にか成長して・・・・・・)

Iirc we got some dev saying Ken have been confirmed to be stronger than ever when fighting for his family, somebody to fight for may be the piece Ryu was missing

 

 

14 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Edit: Cestus, I just saw something from the Dragon's Dogma 2 character creator

 

You have to download this man. I probably could come up with the some decent stuff but the things you could with this thing man. I can only imagine.

Thanks for your trust, but doubt will touch DD2 for a long time 😁

I'm even in doubt i will resurrect my Elden Ring in time for the epic DLC 🥲

 

Btw yeah looks great, but extreme over the top body modification and moveset thing imho give SF6 the edge... just wish SF6 editor was more loved lol, from Capcom to begin with 🤣

Guess huge portion of the site dislike it and think it's already "getting too much" but as editor bro you know the pointless limitations and bullshit we have to deal with lol

 

11 hours ago, ShockDingo said:

I still find it kinda hilarious how out of all the games out there that get our hair right and is bursting with variety, is Fortnite.

Ironic thing is i think SF6 offer good % of black hairs, problem is lot are kinda lame

But that's problem shared by whole hair selection, almost everything is kinda lame/boring (and in some cases badly executed too)

 

Problem i think is because we will have to wait for the actual cool stuff, be it through collaborations (last anime one gave us 2 of the colest hair option avaible) or because in future WTM will offer the cool ones in a "barber shop" like place where you have to pay (free ingame money) to add actual cool haircuts

 

Whole SF6 character creation experience is based on Capcom keeping everything basic and limited as possible (up to lock huge % of stuff already ingame), so they can raise the level with least effort possible in future lmao

 

5 hours ago, BornWinner said:

Bosch concept designs posted by Nakayama.

 

 

 

That's so cool, thanks 👍

In some remind me a bit SC kilik

Actually this version of Kilik also remind lot final Bosch design

Funny thing Kilik was affected/possessed too by Soul Edge power (wich made him super violent and with glowing shit on his body) while being an hero trying to destroy it

He had a sister (not by blood though) as only person he consider family too 😄 

 

Btw curious in that phase of his design Bosch had no red in his hair,wich became later a family trait (his sister Yua share it)

@Darc_Requiem

At the end "Frank Ngono" was too long for SF6 editor name limits, dude is just Ngono 😁

 

Loved the fact i had the chance to use items that wink at Cameroon colors, very SF touch lol

 

(click for full size)

3 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Well, Ngono is Cameroonian surname that that could be a substitute. Ngounou is as well but that seem way too close....but maybe that's just me.

Considering

 

Gerald Golby -> Gary Goodridge
Like Bernardo -> Mike Barnardo
Kamo Leopoldo -> Kimo Leopoldo

 

I'll go with

Frank Ngono -> Francis Ngannou

 

😄

 

EDIT: Damn, won money but my human side was rooting for Francis 💰🥲

Fuck that, i'll do Frank Ngono anyway still crazy cinderella story

@Darc_RequiemIf Ngannou pull that underdog win i promise SF6 recreation Capcom style, i know you're fan of him 😁

 

But to be proper SF rip-off you need to find new name for it 😆

Tbh just for the fun factor would like Ryu get one more special 😁

 

Visually Hashogeki has been most boring shit ever (Lv2 SA is badass though), who the hell thought would have been cool give him as new move a fucking short hadoken with slight modified hadoken animation

 

I understand was already kinda like that in SFV as reversal but still shit idea... lore wise they got the timeskip to justify redesign that thing differently to be fresh and new

 

Give me back this shit, was pure hype😆

 

 

 

6 hours ago, bakfromon said:

These are just concepts for Luke of course. Interesting that at least 5 of those concepts for Luke are black characters. Regarding the fact the whole game is urban-themed and that they were considering a person of color to be the main character of SF6 is kinda fitting I feel.

Maybe -beyond try to do american marketing style move-  it's the reason they chosen to use the young black guy of trailers as default avatar option 🤔

 

To be completely honest while i woul have got zero problems with Luke being black, these designs were kinda weak compared to some others

But may have influenced a bit SF6 Sean look, even if could be coincidence as got similar hairstyle in SFV too

 

Btw if they wanted new black american fighter wish they gave a chance to King Cobra, imho one of coolest dropped SF concepts ever

 

Too bad they straight murdered him, Jamie literally took the whole idea of Kung fu+breakdance wich was his fighting style

 

About Luke concepts my fav was the second line, central position trio with different hair colors, brown hair version on the right in particular

But since i give high priority to the "martial art rep" thing i'm also glad that final design got an attention for MMA that basically all concepts seems to mostly ignore in favor of "young army guy" theme

 

But probably if they sticked to normal proportions without giant forearms (most concepts don't have that trait) MAYBE we would have got actual cool/technical MMA guy rather than 90% being about him punching hard

 

Damn, now i want ALL of these artworks for rest of the cast too 🥲

23 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

The FUCK did you just say?!

I like Dan but don't think nor hope he get playable slot, specially if they keep 4 char Seasons with current cast having gigantic holes

 

Imho we will find him as NPC when the Dojo open, just like they opened the MC Arena

 

Of previously playable SF chars we already seen FANG and Retsu get this treatment, some will follow for sure in future (Falke hopefully, don't want her getting slot lol)

 

The fact we seen that a kinda cheap "saikyo" moveset (cool for NPC, but does'nt seem main cast quality) exist make me think we're basically watching the template of  what NPC Dan will get lol