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She killed herself in a place where her kids, my wife's niece and nephew, found her.  It was pretty awful.

The wonderful Lady D, as imagined in World of Darkness/VTM lore
 

And you know what is the funny thing.
I never stated that is my personal stance to care or not care about the body count, but what I did was to disagree that is only insecure men and proceeded to point that there are valid reason why people of both sexes care about such thing.
 
(I took some time to post my reply cuz I was donating blood since my father is getting a minor surgery on monday)
 
In my case it depends of the person in question, since I have been with people with a higher body count than me, the same I have been with people with less than me or even 0.
Is all about their character, and how they handle themselves on daily basis.
 
For some people is important, for other isn't, and the reasons for this vary.
Lumping everyone in one sack, and specially one as dumb as hurr durr, men insecure, hurr dur is just dumb and reductive, done in bad faith to try to shut down any conversation.
 
Is like trying to say that someone not wanting to involve themselves with someone who drinks too much/too often or does weed is being prudish and shouldn't matter.
 

At the end of the day, is about preference.
Like I said, some people do value intimacy and see it as a negative, and is their right to care about this if is something that they feel that can be a conflict in their relationship.
This is regardless if is men caring about women's body count, or women caring about men's body count.
 
Also, like I mentioned, there are inherent health risks for people that are more promiscuous.
There are certain tendencies in lives styles as well that can be easily seen as negatives or lead to negative factors be health, financial, etc.
 
And this is without entering into the psychology territory that can lead to a person to be hypersexual, where in certain cases, can be tied to different personality disorders, or point even to a past where the person in question is a victim of some form of abuse, even sexual abuse, so they end coping by becoming hypersexual as a mechanism to regain control, but usually is not healthy.
 
Edit
 
Add that the continuous use of birth control methods that involve hormones have been documented to lead to mental health issues like depression in a good amount of women, and it can be easily assumed that a woman that engages more frequently into casual hookups are on birth control methods.
 
It is argued by some studies that the hypersexual behaviours in some women can be a direct result to this, creating a feedback loop, where the depression/anxiety/other mental health issues derived from the continuous use is seek to be placated by their hypersexuality.
 
Combine that with the abuse of alcohol and substance and you have a problem that only keeps increasing.

Don't you love when someone doesn't have an intelligent way to defend their argument they retort to attack the masculinity of the others like a toddler, specially because they can't handle anyone disagreeing with them 😆
I bet you are one step away of calling anyone that disagrees with you here an incel, if not that you are already doing it on a discord where the people in question are not in 🤣

I think it means the baby is saying yeah, me too.

Some of us are arguing about whether it's a thing some people care about, and the others over whether it's a stupid thing for society to care about.  Talking right past each other.

And you know what is the funny thing.
I never stated that is my personal stance to care or not care about the body count, but what I did was to disagree that is only insecure men and proceeded to point that there are valid reason why people of both sexes care about such thing.
 
(I took some time to post my reply cuz I was donating blood since my father is getting a minor surgery on monday)
 
In my case it depends of the person in question, since I have been with people with a higher body count than me, the same I have been with people with less than me or even 0.
Is all about their character, and how they handle themselves on daily basis.
 
For some people is important, for other isn't, and the reasons for this vary.
Lumping everyone in one sack, and specially one as dumb as hurr durr, men insecure, hurr dur is just dumb and reductive, done in bad faith to try to shut down any conversation.
 
Is like trying to say that someone not wanting to involve themselves with someone who drinks too much/too often or does weed is being prudish and shouldn't matter.
 

And you know what is the funny thing.
I never stated that is my personal stance to care or not care about the body count, but what I did was to disagree that is only insecure men and proceeded to point that there are valid reason why people of both sexes care about such thing.
 
(I took some time to post my reply cuz I was donating blood since my father is getting a minor surgery on monday)
 
In my case it depends of the person in question, since I have been with people with a higher body count than me, the same I have been with people with less than me or even 0.
Is all about their character, and how they handle themselves on daily basis.
 
For some people is important, for other isn't, and the reasons for this vary.
Lumping everyone in one sack, and specially one as dumb as hurr durr, men insecure, hurr dur is just dumb and reductive, done in bad faith to try to shut down any conversation.
 
Is like trying to say that someone not wanting to involve themselves with someone who drinks too much/too often or does weed is being prudish and shouldn't matter.
 

This. This right here is why he and I had our exchange several months back in regards to a similar topic. After which I no longer saw him in a good light and no longer engage with him.
 
Disagreement on how we view life, dating etc? That's fine. Straight up disrespect and talking down to people because you don't like their ideals and stance? You're dead to me

At the end of the day, is about preference.
Like I said, some people do value intimacy and see it as a negative, and is their right to care about this if is something that they feel that can be a conflict in their relationship.
This is regardless if is men caring about women's body count, or women caring about men's body count.
 
Also, like I mentioned, there are inherent health risks for people that are more promiscuous.
There are certain tendencies in lives styles as well that can be easily seen as negatives or lead to negative factors be health, financial, etc.
 
And this is without entering into the psychology territory that can lead to a person to be hypersexual, where in certain cases, can be tied to different personality disorders, or point even to a past where the person in question is a victim of some form of abuse, even sexual abuse, so they end coping by becoming hypersexual as a mechanism to regain control, but usually is not healthy.
 
Edit
 
Add that the continuous use of birth control methods that involve hormones have been documented to lead to mental health issues like depression in a good amount of women, and it can be easily assumed that a woman that engages more frequently into casual hookups are on birth control methods.
 
It is argued by some studies that the hypersexual behaviours in some women can be a direct result to this, creating a feedback loop, where the depression/anxiety/other mental health issues derived from the continuous use is seek to be placated by their hypersexuality.
 
Combine that with the abuse of alcohol and substance and you have a problem that only keeps increasing.

Sorry I'm trying to work on my Youtube channel and prepare for work at the park later today but I'll simply say this. 
 
You're being a smug asshole here with this notion that your thought process is the right one. It's ONE point of view. BOTH myself and my wife asked each other years ago how many we have both slept with and while it's a bit uncomfy to state, it helped us understand things between us better as we talked things out. Yes for some it doesn't matter but data has shown that pair bonding generally speaking has better success with couples who have had less sexual partners. YOU may not feel you need to know, and YOU may feel you're an exception to the date but that doesn't make you more confident/secure man vs me. Next time don't be a coward and @ me if you think you disagree with my dislike. This isn't Twitter (or X is it?) we've all been on this forum long enough to be better than that. 

Don't you love when someone doesn't have an intelligent way to defend their argument they retort to attack the masculinity of the others like a toddler, specially because they can't handle anyone disagreeing with them 😆
I bet you are one step away of calling anyone that disagrees with you here an incel, if not that you are already doing it on a discord where the people in question are not in 🤣

I agree with a lot of that.  I just think that, particularly in the US, there are a lot of competing expectations put on women that catch up perfectly normal people. 
 
People who are hypersexual due to mental health issues are another matter entirely.  My wife had a sister-in-law who was hypersexual because of bipolar disorder, and would fuck homeless guys during her manic periods.  That's obviously a whole other class of problems, not a healthy person who just happened to date more guys than average.

Just call them out and be done with it. 
 
Side note: This entire discourse has just proved my initial point. Not wanting something to be the case, doesn't stop it from being the case. 

I think you and I have a different definition of what it means for something to "matter". If people lie about it matters. They lie because potential repercussions. One of which you listed yourself. There are a lot things that shouldn't matter that unfortunately do.
As I said in my earlier post, you can say it shouldn't matter but the reality is that it does. Because something doesn't matter to you, doesn't make it the general rule. That is some "my truth" level bullshit to frank with you. Dudes say they have slept with more women than they really have. Women say they've slept with less people than they actually have. This occurs for a reason. Body count matters to the general society at large. There are plenty of things in society that shouldn't matter. Skin color, gender, sexual orientation are three that immediately come to mind. Unfortunately those things to matter to society at large. 
 
TLDR: If you have to say that something shouldn't matter. Then it does matter. It wouldn't need to be stated otherwise. Also, I find it funny that you are calling three people insecure yet don't name them.

At the end of the day, is about preference.
Like I said, some people do value intimacy and see it as a negative, and is their right to care about this if is something that they feel that can be a conflict in their relationship.
This is regardless if is men caring about women's body count, or women caring about men's body count.
 
Also, like I mentioned, there are inherent health risks for people that are more promiscuous.
There are certain tendencies in lives styles as well that can be easily seen as negatives or lead to negative factors be health, financial, etc.
 
And this is without entering into the psychology territory that can lead to a person to be hypersexual, where in certain cases, can be tied to different personality disorders, or point even to a past where the person in question is a victim of some form of abuse, even sexual abuse, so they end coping by becoming hypersexual as a mechanism to regain control, but usually is not healthy.
 
Edit
 
Add that the continuous use of birth control methods that involve hormones have been documented to lead to mental health issues like depression in a good amount of women, and it can be easily assumed that a woman that engages more frequently into casual hookups are on birth control methods.
 
It is argued by some studies that the hypersexual behaviours in some women can be a direct result to this, creating a feedback loop, where the depression/anxiety/other mental health issues derived from the continuous use is seek to be placated by their hypersexuality.
 
Combine that with the abuse of alcohol and substance and you have a problem that only keeps increasing.

I LOVE SLUTS!

He's referencing the thumbs down on the post prior.