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Miðgarðsorm

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    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from biachunli in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The move itself is obviously the Kamehameha, but the name comes from Space Battleship Yamato's Wave Motion Cannon (波動砲 Hadōhō). They simply replaced 砲 hō (cannon) with 拳 ken (punch).
     
    Before HNK, there was the manga Otokogumi ("Male class", but also "clan" as in MAFIA clan), by Tetsu Kariya and Ryōichi Ikegami. It ran from 1974 to 1979 and it was the first manga to deal with juvenile delinquents who fought each other in the school (neither Otokojuku nor Rival Schools could exist without it, to be clear). Protagonist Zenjirō Nagare is a Tàijíquán champ and is charged with parricide and sent to a school ruled with an iron fist by the rich and tyrannical student Gōji Jinryū, and tasked with the mission of ending Gōji's reign. Zenjirō always fights without removing his handcuffs (where did I see something similar... I can't remember well... 🤔), meets various martial arts experts¹ and the conflict escalates nationwide (gotta love mangas' exaggerations). Long story short, anyway, the first special move Zenjirō creates is... the 旋風脚 senpūkyaku.

    The inclination of Nagare's leg is more similar to FF's GUY's version of the move, but the name is there. Remember that in SF1 Ryu and Ken kept the leg more downward, kinda like HNK's Shū did with his 円環斬襲脚 Enkan Zanshūkyaku ("circling beheading assault kick"), which Kenshirō later copied. Even the initial slow ascension is similar...
     

     
    Ikki Kajiwara's Jūdō Icchokusen (1967-1971). Which also provided Abel with his supers and ultras. You remember well, but the Youtube video with all the cool moves from the live action series of it is sadly gone... 😑
    Anyway, I am writing also a long answer to@Shakunetsubecause, as @Lord_Vegasaid, Yasuda answered that at the time Thailand had the best martial art in the world... But he also admitted he was influenced by a manga for that. Of course he was. But WHAT manga? Prepare to know!
    Also, hello @biachunli  ! Nice to see you here!
     
     
    ¹ Among them, the first ever Bājíquán master depicted in a manga, courtesy of the martial arts consultant Ryūchi Matsuda, who authored the immensely influential kung-fu manga Kenji (1988 - 1992), which inspired most of the Chinese characters everyone of us has seen in a fighting game. It obviously warrants an article (more than one, I fear...) just about it. You wouldn't believe the amount of things every fighting game directly copied from it... And not only fighting games: even Shenmue or Fate wouldn't have existed (or would've been much different) without Kenji.
  2. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from YagamiFire in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The move itself is obviously the Kamehameha, but the name comes from Space Battleship Yamato's Wave Motion Cannon (波動砲 Hadōhō). They simply replaced 砲 hō (cannon) with 拳 ken (punch).
     
    Before HNK, there was the manga Otokogumi ("Male class", but also "clan" as in MAFIA clan), by Tetsu Kariya and Ryōichi Ikegami. It ran from 1974 to 1979 and it was the first manga to deal with juvenile delinquents who fought each other in the school (neither Otokojuku nor Rival Schools could exist without it, to be clear). Protagonist Zenjirō Nagare is a Tàijíquán champ and is charged with parricide and sent to a school ruled with an iron fist by the rich and tyrannical student Gōji Jinryū, and tasked with the mission of ending Gōji's reign. Zenjirō always fights without removing his handcuffs (where did I see something similar... I can't remember well... 🤔), meets various martial arts experts¹ and the conflict escalates nationwide (gotta love mangas' exaggerations). Long story short, anyway, the first special move Zenjirō creates is... the 旋風脚 senpūkyaku.

    The inclination of Nagare's leg is more similar to FF's GUY's version of the move, but the name is there. Remember that in SF1 Ryu and Ken kept the leg more downward, kinda like HNK's Shū did with his 円環斬襲脚 Enkan Zanshūkyaku ("circling beheading assault kick"), which Kenshirō later copied. Even the initial slow ascension is similar...
     

     
    Ikki Kajiwara's Jūdō Icchokusen (1967-1971). Which also provided Abel with his supers and ultras. You remember well, but the Youtube video with all the cool moves from the live action series of it is sadly gone... 😑
    Anyway, I am writing also a long answer to@Shakunetsubecause, as @Lord_Vegasaid, Yasuda answered that at the time Thailand had the best martial art in the world... But he also admitted he was influenced by a manga for that. Of course he was. But WHAT manga? Prepare to know!
    Also, hello @biachunli  ! Nice to see you here!
     
     
    ¹ Among them, the first ever Bājíquán master depicted in a manga, courtesy of the martial arts consultant Ryūchi Matsuda, who authored the immensely influential kung-fu manga Kenji (1988 - 1992), which inspired most of the Chinese characters everyone of us has seen in a fighting game. It obviously warrants an article (more than one, I fear...) just about it. You wouldn't believe the amount of things every fighting game directly copied from it... And not only fighting games: even Shenmue or Fate wouldn't have existed (or would've been much different) without Kenji.
  3. +1
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to biachunli in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Well, Nakayama say that G's birthday is unknown, and CAP'ARTWORK apologized for wrong information. 🤷‍♀️ 
     
     
  4. LOL
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to Lord_Vega in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    🤣
    Don't look at me. I'm totally broke.

    Besides, I didn't even finish scanning the SFVCE Vital Box III book....
     
    I might do a video with a rundown of the exclusive exhibition book....
     
    I think his ass got whooped by Li-Fen....
  5. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from ToreyBeans in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    My gripe about Luke is that he's a PMC. I was fine with his "modern Popeye who does MMA" gimmick until I found out he's a military contractor. I already had enough of all the military characters, but a mercenary is even worse. There's no such thing as a "good Rolento".
  6. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from EvilCanadian in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    My gripe about Luke is that he's a PMC. I was fine with his "modern Popeye who does MMA" gimmick until I found out he's a military contractor. I already had enough of all the military characters, but a mercenary is even worse. There's no such thing as a "good Rolento".
  7. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Daemos in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    My gripe about Luke is that he's a PMC. I was fine with his "modern Popeye who does MMA" gimmick until I found out he's a military contractor. I already had enough of all the military characters, but a mercenary is even worse. There's no such thing as a "good Rolento".
  8. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Shahenzan in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    My gripe about Luke is that he's a PMC. I was fine with his "modern Popeye who does MMA" gimmick until I found out he's a military contractor. I already had enough of all the military characters, but a mercenary is even worse. There's no such thing as a "good Rolento".
  9. +1
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to Daemos in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    They should spend that money of a top tier anime series for Netflix. Something like DotA's anime would be epic.
  10. LOL
  11. LOL
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to Shakunetsu in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    G can warping elsewhere
     
     
  12. Love
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to bakfromon in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Capcom Channel (Japan) is doing a 4 part World Tour preview part 1 is up now. It doesn’t show us too much except the character creator and intro to story mode but the next 3 parts will definitely be stuff we haven’t seen before in Metro City.  


  13. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Lord_Vega in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
  14. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Shakunetsu in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
  15. WTF
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from ShockDingo in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
  16. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Hawkingbird in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
  17. +1
  18. Love
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to CESTUS III in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Damn dude, i know i already told you but you're fucking walking encyclopedia, so much new stuff in one single post 🤩
     
     
     
  19. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Daemos in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
  20. Love
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from BornWinner in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
  21. Love
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from YagamiFire in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
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    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from CESTUS III in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
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    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from bakfromon in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    The poison hand fighter is an old idea taken from, guess what, manga. Which in turn took the idea from old kung-fu manuals.
    Remember when I wrote about Mad Bull 34 and Haggar? Well, amongst Sleepy’s outrageous adventures, there’s a curious one: he once gets recruited by Son, an old Chinese master assassin who’s retired and is now a hotel owner. Son is dying of cancer and won’t live another year, but his last desire is to kill his former apprentice Morgan, a lanky and psychopathic monster who doesn’t follow the moral code of the true professional assassin, and kills children and women for fun to rape them afterwards. Son has challenged Morgan to kill him, so he knows Morgan will come; and also knows that he has no chance against his former protégé. In the very likely case Son won’t be able to terminate Morgan, Sleepy should step in and kill Morgan in his stead, to finally purge the world from this monster. Basically, Son chooses to die in battle to atone for his sins, ensuring there wouldn’t be further consequences. To motivate Sleepy, Son offers him his hotel… and his own daughter Lei.
    The interesting thing is that Son, Morgan and Lei all kill using a peculiar martial art, here called 陰手功 inshukō, “yin hand technique”. Son explains that it requires a bowl filled with sand mixed with the poisons of various plants and venomous animals. By repeatedly striking the sand every day with the bare hand, over time the practitioner can acquire a lethal poisonous hand, so powerful that it can literally dissolve the organic tissues of the victim.

     
    Son used to be called “Red sand hand” Son. His daughter Lei also knows the art, and styles herself as “Blue sand hand” Lei.
     

     
    Morgan is “Black sand hand” Morgan. Colour coded for your convenience, indeed.
     

     

    Morgan obviously kills Son, then exactly as obviously Sleepy kills Morgan (spoiler!). There can be spotted various interesting ideas that Capcom later reused: the old Chinese master assassin dying of cancer and wanting to die in battle instead of illness is a concept recycled for Gen; the daughter of the aforementioned assassin seeking vengeance on her father’s killer is exactly the backstory Capcom initially thought for Chun-Li in the first pitch for Street Fighter II in 1988, when she still was to be called 智麗 Zhìlì, would’ve used mantis-style kung fu (later recycled as one of the two styles for Gen in SFZ2) and should’ve been Gen’s daughter, long before someone thought about Dorai or even making Chun-Li a cop. The concept of a female apprentice for Gen, although no longer his own daughter, briefly resurfaced during SFV development, but it was ultimately discarded. Again. But Capcom just hates to let good ideas go… Since SFIV, Gen apparently has had an ambiguous relation with Dorai, so now he’s again a sort-of mentor figure to Chun-Li.
    And finally we have the eerie, tall and wiry psycho killer in sunglasses who uses poison… And that’s F.A.N.G.
    Who now has his own young female apprentice. Obviously, F.A.N.G’s appearance and mannerisms owe to a number of other influences, but the impact of Mad Bull 34 is undeniable. The method of poisoning one’s own hand to make the body resistant to poison – more than that: to become poisonous itself -, didn't originate in Mad Bull 34, however, but that's another story...
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    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Bigtochiro in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    He was already leaked a year ago. Season 1 DLC, we'll never get rid of him.
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    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from DoctaMario in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Procella, Latin for "Tempest".
    "Porcella" would be "SOW" in Italian, not the best pick for a move I would say. 😛
    Anyway, there's A LOT to note about Zangief:
    Also, Maeda was trained by Karl Gotch, who until 1961 went by the name Karl Krauser. Full circle.
    Obviously, Gotch also made the German Suplex the rightly respected move it is today, and it's worth noting that, when he used it in 1961 for the first time in Japan, it was still named ATOMIC Suplex. "German" came later, in honour of Gotch (whose real name was Karl Istaz; he was billed as a German even if he was actually Belgian, but no one would say Belgian Suplex...).
    Then there's Abdullah the Butcher's 地獄突き Jigoku tsuki ("hell stab", as it was also its name in Virtua Fighter when Jeffry McWild adopted the move in VF2). Most wrestling fans nowadays would recognise this blow as being used by The Undertaker or Kane (or Jinsei Shinzaki if they're into Japan), but Abby did it first in the Eighties, and it was him Capcom wanted to homage with Gief's crouching LP back in SF2.
     
     
    Then there's Zangief's Knee Hammer (f + MK): aka the Jumping Knee Bat, a staple move of Jumbo Tsuruta (also Akira Maeda and nowadays Jun Akiyama). He generally did it with the right arm up, a style instantly recognisable. Zangief's move is named ニーバット Knee Bat in the Japanese SFV, just to note that sometimes you also lose the immediate references in translation...
     

     
    And also already homaged by Tekken's King and Armor King, and DOA's Bass:

     
    Finally, the Mongolian Chop. Its inventor was Masashi Ozawa, better known as Killer Khan, another character created by Karl Gotch. Ozawa wrestled as a "Mongolian" for much of his career, first starting as Temjin El Mongol while in Mexico in 1978, then as Killer Khan in the USA in 1979. AoF2's Temujin is obviously modeled after him. His double chop was named "Mongolian" from his character, and then adopted by any "Mongolian" wrestler, real or not (they even gave the Mongolian Chop to AIGLE in Rumble Roses, just because she's Mongolian...). Killer Khan used the blow with a characteristic shriek, part of his so-called "Albatross style".¹
     
     
    The Mongolian Chop's legacy was inherited by Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Killer-O-Khan (another "Mongolian" who does the move just like Killer Khan, "albatross shriek" included), who just in 2021 had a feud centered around who had the RIGHT to use the move (LOL), so they had a match with a "loser can't use the Mongolian Chop anymore" stipulation in January 30, 2021. Tenzan lost and ceased to use the move... Until he had enough of it and ignored the ban just a month after that. 😂
     
     
    With so recent a drama about the move, it's no wonder the devs included it in the game.
     
     
     
     
    Neither Sagat nor Adon will come back. But don't worry! There will be a muay thai rep anyway!
     
    ¹ Also parodied by PUCK in BERSERK once, lol.

     
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