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    The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

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    Posted · Edited by Shakunetsu

    13 hours ago, Hawkingbird said:

    Context matters. You are arguing in favor of surface level comparison and I'm not with that.

    that is important because we dont need to expect average FG enjoyer would be interested on reading huge backstory of character that they dont interest them at first glance.

     

    If you notice in the thread that not all had been too critical at Phantom/AKi backstory article and never had the precise and correct in understanding the knife, his brother, choices(knife or formula) while just only understanding other things that could affect her "future" . For example remembering the other tidbits of info like training with fang, because it shows that they are only interested in some aspect of the character unless your into that archetype of character, documenting, recently watch or read an article about that character. 

     

    there is something about good design that like Manon and Marissa design that makes them good and distinct

     

    take note they are not the character I like but they are innovative and good distinctive design because you dont need to read backstories, articles or a wikipedia to differentiate them to the characters they are clear as day unique character and unique by just watch the trailer alone even without the bio,

     

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    why in trailer? because there characterization is everything in there animation and movement not needed to read bio or profile. You dont need to read winquotes(ELFUERTE) to know Manon is into Ballet or understand Ballet terminologies during her attacks(COOKING TIME) because its all mesh in the movement not too much words. SNK character in KOF from late 90s and 2k are good in this reflected in movement and body gesture.

     

    And AKi body gesture in the trailer felt Juri in first glance in the trailer for non critical to her character. while Manon is Manon. and Yes AKI animation is unique to her like the snake movement. 

     

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    and yes Ryu is a boring and generic karateka 80s character and i like his character this is why terry is miles away than Ryu, Liukang and Kyo. Terry in red blue stars are the better than the 3. Ryu is my favorite character because I am nostalgic with him and view him in ROSE tinted glasses but I dont let that perspective cloud my judgement on which is the better and the one that standout and hard to replicate.

     

    Manon character design is hard to replicate and it would be distinct just like Leeroy Smith in Tekken unique combination that amazingly worked. Bob also worked and SF tried to replicate it would Rufus. SO far my favorite character design is Leeroy and Manon

     

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    The worst isnt Rufus that tries to replicate Bobs success but this guy because his all tropes and will poorly and badly age LOL SHUNEI 

     

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    The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

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    Posted · Edited by Shakunetsu

    9 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

    Edit: @ShakunetsuHaven't read the F.A.N.G./Phantom comic in a while, didn't her brother go for the poisoned stack of cash while A.K.I./Phantom chose the knife?

    I haven't yet, I'm didn't read any new comics even the Ken comics SF6 from Udon or I forgot the FANG/Comic

     

    edit I checked the wiki, yes I think I forgot haha 

    The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

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    Posted · Edited by Shakunetsu

    29 minutes ago, bakfromon said:

    You do remember AKI used to act as teenage prostitute in order for her brother to blackmail individuals later for money? Its already integrated into her character that she’s willing to use at the very least the promise of sex in order to get money. It’s obvious she takes pleasure in her poisons and what sorts of  various violent things that they do to people. It’s not to far from a stretch to think she using sexual innuendos when she looks like she’s having an orgasm talking about her master. The tone she uses talking about experimenting with her poisons is exactly the same Juri uses for basically every innuendo she makes

     

     

     

     

    I have a bad feeling that her brother is already dead and been experimented with

    The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

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    Posted · Edited by Shakunetsu

    32 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

    It's very easy to distinguish punchline and Harley. Punchline created her own niche by being an terminally online villainess that makes use of all the negative aspects of online culture to feed her nihilism and convince people she is a victim so she can never face accountability for her actions. Most of her goons tend to be her most devoted followers.

    Yes I know I was just talking about the first impression and surface level judgement from average perspective.

     

    I know there differences but Im just talking in a different perspective without the depth

     

    I mentioned it here...

      

    3 hours ago, Shakunetsu said:

    The problem is that they sound very similar in trailer in first impression and surface level of judgement like a crazy sadistic woman that do weird poses body contort bending but we all know they arent similar specially Juri character now is not that shrouded in mystery anymore.

     

    I usually look at different perspective because this are not usually what others take time to see and understand. It's not commonly to others do relate with when I talk or being critical on some fiction related areas. I am self aware of being a geek on this area like fictional characters, toys and etc that others generally don't pay attention into LOL

    The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

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    38 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

    Taking pleasure in violence isn't that unusual in SF. Just like fighting unarmed isn't unusual in SF. Cody could not stop beating people up and got locked up for it. Akuma lives to fight master level opponents. The list goes on. Taking sexual pleasure from violence is however unusual and that's Juri's thing. A.K.I. isn't being seductive or making any sexual innuendos, she just like's killing via poison like her master. A master she seems enamored with. Sakura thinks she's too obsessive. 

     

    Yeah nice pointing out Sakura and Ryu.

     

    I think the torture and being sadistic like part is something that commonly find relative to the two

    The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

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    Posted · Edited by Shakunetsu

    10 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

    They REALLY aren't.  They're both sadistic, cackling, predatory.  They're both the exact same kind of girl Joker.

     

    They even have similar mannerisms like lip licking and unnecessary body contortions, like the deep backbend.

     

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    its hard to distinguish Punchline to Harley

     

    Harley is somehow the Juri in this situation and Punchline is the AKI one

     

    both crazy girls wanted pain.

     

    They should had remove the sadistic traits on Aki and more of a crazy woman that is more on getting the JOB DONE as efficient and stealthy as possible because of her MASTER than being obessive with her prey pain and finding value on the suffering it inflicts... but yeah we know why they include that so some yandere fandom can self insert themselves as imagination. lol

     

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    Batman's Cassandra Cain AKA Spoiler should had been a better motif to AKI, it's also a unexplored characteristic yet in street fighter

     

    while still having crazy body motif like her SILENCE is perfect for AKI training

     

    If I would make AKI she would be silence most of the time as FANG training like Cassandra Cain that silence is an important traits of her character. confusing her opponents and treat her as deaf in first impression or just unhearing by her prey concern making her extremely dangerous because of confusing encounter 

     

     

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    But will surprise her foe by all of a sudden talking about HER MASTER and change of body language and facial expression that she all of a sudden surprise her foe.

     

    it still keeps the mystery of her because of like she doesn't TALK to her prey directly when she TALKS because she talks all about FANG or pleasing FANG.

     

    like Master is this okay... Master is this what you like... Master what I should do next?... Forgive me Master...  without mentioning the name FANG 

     

    like she doesn't CONCERN her prey squabbles like feelings and emotion because they are irrelevant and unimportant to her. That even her WINQUOTES are talking about her Master will and her Master being pleased not about the losing street fighter character and also never talking about her Master's wants to the losing street fighter because everything is all about her and her Master.

     

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    thats the better way she should have been more FANG centric killing machine and doesn't oblige to answer to any street fighters or doesn't even communicate to the player and her foe, even her winquotes  are like TWELVE.

     

    That difference and the TWIST of Aki and Cassandra Cain/Spoiler even Fang is that she is still crazy that still saw her foe as an object because she talks all of a sudden like all about accomplishing her MASTERs wants not talking to the OTHER characters

     

    and yes she has similarities with METAL GEAR's QUIET that could have talken inspirastion also to a silent assasin like Cassandra Cain 

     

     

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    The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

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    Posted · Edited by Shakunetsu

    6 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said:

    The A.K.I. and Juri comparison comes off as surface level to me. A.K.I. is an obsessive psychopath that lives to please F.A.N.G. Juri is a chaotic anarchist that serves no one but herself. Juri gets off from inflicting pain on other's like Xenia Onatop in Goldeneye. A.K.I. shows no signs of getting any sort of sexual gratification from the violence she inflicts. She's not seductive in the slightest. While Juri is taking selfies over her KO'd opponent, A.K.I. straight up murders her foe in victory animation.

    The problem is that they sound very similar in trailer in first impression and surface level of judgement like a crazy sadistic woman that do weird poses body contort bending but we all know they arent similar specially Juri character now is not that shrouded in mystery anymore.

     

    Capcom should have done is more FANG pleasing character that seeks his validation.

     

    More getting the job done then remove BOTH the TORTURE and GRATIFICATION. Being a doing the job more efficient  like an effective dangerous assasin than someone sort if endulgement on it.

     

    while being a crazy woman that is more on getting her JOB DONE than endulging on slow pain.

     

    since those traits are easier to confused with Juri trait since both are inflicting pain to have some sort of satisfaction.

     

    Like AKI prey is that the subject is meaningless and no-VALUE to her other than a tool to satisfy FANG and that still a psycho trait.

     

    So in that case she will be EXACTLY like Fang is to Bison instead of some one who finds satisfaction on their preys thats the ONLY relativity of Juri and Aki. So NO-VALUE on prey NO-Gratification on prey other than tools like FANG.

     

    And we all know thats are how crazy girls are commonly judge by that traits being sadistic but she could be psychotic without being sadistic.

     

     

     

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