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On 8/19/2021 at 2:01 PM, Hawkingbird said:

I find it strange that Akira isn't selectable in the Alpha arcade path. Her character story canonized Sakura appearance in Rival Schools. I expected for Rival Schools and Project Justice to fall into the Alpha timeframe.

Sorry for the double post but if her SFV ending is any indication, RS still wouldn't have happened in the Alpha era at all. Akira would have been a pre teen.

On 8/19/2021 at 8:16 AM, Shakunetsu said:

Zero was the meh boss character, that they need to reinvent him later because his previous version is un appealing compare to krizalid and Ignitz.  It's like they are rushing things because of ownership and priorities shifting.

I disagree on Clone Zero being ineffective. The original Zero feels almost deviantart OC tier in that he only existed because Clone Zero was deemed ugly by Asian standards and is basically "look everybody I'm better than the Zero last year,". In terms of the plot he probably was one of the few KOF bosses who actually did something on screen. He destroyed Southtown and was a wild card that caused issues for both the heroes and NESTS themselves. All the real Zero ever did was challenge you on a blimp with help from 3 people and died. Sure, he's just Han from HnK in a cybersuit but I think he did his role better than his successor did. Igniz is good enough but honestly, he was better off taking the place the Original Zero did in 2001's plot rather than being the true final boss, he even has the look of an honorable fighter.

SNK did know how to use their villains to effectively add layers to the story. Krizalid being as strong as he is then being revealed to be only the surface of NESTS' true power as well as the tragedy surrounding him helped set the tone strongly for the NESTS arc and part of why he's one of the best characters SNK has ever created.

42 minutes ago, BootyWarrior said:

I thought it was Akihiko Ureshino. 

He wrote the light novel adaptations that would be released after the games were released. He merely adapted them. The only reason fans treat them as canon is because they don't contradict the games, similar case to KOF: Kyo or how elements from the SF2 movie made it to Alpha. What he can be credited for is the whole "Whip is a clone of K''s dead sister" that he made up because SNK wouldn't tell him her backstory, it eventually got canonised in 2001. According to the link below he also claimed that SNK told him that Kula was Russian and that her parents are still alive (which doesn't make sense because Kula's name is derived from the Finnish word for hoarfrost: Kuura) 

https://w.atwiki.jp/gcmatome/?cmd=word&word=kof 2001&type=&pageid=2238#id_219d1341

35 minutes ago, Shakunetsu said:

for example ignitz, his not a character to be attached with same with the orochi.

Igniz wasn't even going to be the final boss. It was Father NESTS (the old man with the sword), it's why Igniz feels so random and suddenly turned the overall meaning the NESTS story had from "even though you created us as clones and mere tools, we have every right to live and be free" to "I'm literally God lol! Watch me drop a colony". 2001 ruined the NESTS story, which was looked like it was going to be far better than the Orochi saga. 

I feel like the Ash saga is a step down because there's no overall themes to the story. The Orochi saga was all about Kyo and Iori coming to terms with their destinies while also showing that the Orochi Clan were wrong about humanity being inherently evil. NESTS showed how evil humanity could be with people like Clone Zero and Ron representing personal ambition, greed and how they corrupted and affected people like Krizalid and Kula. 

TFTP are some of the most incompetent and unconvincing villains in fighting game history, nothing they do make sense, they have no overall meaning or a coherent end goal. It really feels like SNK saw the backlash NESTS had back in the day and decided to go back to the Orochi story in the most superficial way. While Orochi and NESTS gave the side characters their own little stories and arcs, the Ash saga either drops them entirely, reduces them to gags or set up subplots but drop them like what happened to AOF in 2003 or the entirety of XIII. 

3 hours ago, BootyWarrior said:

SNK was smart enough to keep the same writer from 95/96 up until XIII

I don't think that's true. Their anniversary website states they have their own encyclopedia full of plot lines and characters that they pick out. NESTS was the story they decided to be the main plot instead of the Hizoku, their bio for Ron mentions that even they have no idea what the plans for Ron and Lin were after the bankruptcy. SNK uses the encyclopedia to help them out eg Adelheid and Magaki were scrapped characters for 1999. 97-2000 were written by a man named Tomonori Kamio. 

If anything, 2003 messed up alot of stuff and XIII would have been a very different and better game plot wise had they not decided to go the route they did with the sprites.

13 hours ago, Shakunetsu said:

Bison is alive but behind the scenes. SIN and Neo Shadaloo never existed.

That would suck for them to build up Ed, Falke and all these other characters only for them to get Ash Crimson'd

5 minutes ago, Scotia said:

Who is being referenced here? I've never heard of anyone from Rival Schools being fans of Ken and Alex.

Edge and Gan are the only characters that makes sense. The Masters Online Course is a running joke that started in Project X Zone where Ken advertises the Online Program much to Ryu's chagrin. 

Falcoon saw a girl in a Iori cosplay while at a shop. 

30 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said:

Ladykiller lesbian Akira confirmed. Go for that free inclusivity boost Capcom!

Menat is likely talking about the events of Rival Schools' sequel: Project Justice. Akira gets transferred to an all-girl school  and her trying to settle in and her friend being the antagonist's sister is one of the key plot points. Daigo also undergoes a change very reminiscent of SnH in that game. 

19 minutes ago, BornWinner said:

Making a face out of the letters is pretty smart.

The logo really reminds me of something a Megaman villain would have. 

26 minutes ago, BornWinner said:

Turns out the reason Chizuru was a no show after 97 was not because Orochi was defeated and she saw no reason to join

You'd think she'd have cause for concern over Kyo going missing. 

6 minutes ago, Miðgarðsorm said:

Ryu retorts "I'll show you I'll go beyond SNH"; the implication is HOW, aka the power which surpasses SNH.

I see. Is the first "ore wa" meant to be read as one of hesitation or one of conviction? Because I seemed to read it as the former. 

SF3 is probably the more competently translated of the 90's SF games. There's little borderline changes like Alpha/SF2 and most of the inaccuracies can be chalked up to text space limitations. It certainly got off better than Darkstalkers and especially Megaman. 

45 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

I liked the Mira bros a lot. 

They were terrible. They're nothing more than Falcoon's self insert OCs that rip off Terry and Andy, something Falcon even admitted himself. He's an alright designer considering his work for 2003 and nowadays, he just needs to be controlled and offset by other designers to produce good stuff. 

9 hours ago, Doctrine_Dark said:

I kinda remember the original dialogue being different from the ENG. Something about Ryu saying he's going to show Akuma why he surpassed the Satsui no Hado. I might be misremembering. 

From what I can make out-

Akuma: Ryu! It's time to settle the truth! Show me the power of your fists! 

Ryu: I... I'll show you a power that goes beyond murderous intent*

(*=satsui no hado) 

Maybe @Miðgarðsorm or @Lord_Vegacan provide a better translation. I'm not confident that what I put for Akuma was 100% correct. It's the same problem with alot of sprite based games at the time. What takes up one character to say in Japanese or most other Asian languages takes up multiple in other languages so they had to considerably water stuff down. The words used are different, Ryu doesn't hesitate and is more self-righteous in English but the overall message is still the same. 

9 hours ago, BornWinner said:

Turns out Antonov went broke after the ending of KOF14.

The stadium getting blown up and people getting endangered obviously means he that's been hit with lawsuits from basically everybody. Wonder if something similar happened to Chizuru after 1996.

3 hours ago, HD-Man said:

We need Duke from Maximum Impact back 😤

The only characters I would ever want to see from MI return is Chae Lim and Fio. And May Lee has more claim to return than the former does. Kim has a lot of students.

On 8/4/2021 at 4:04 AM, Darc_Requiem said:

"Yashiro looking at Shermie's OnlyFans on that tablet."

After what happened in the video I wouldn't be surprised. 

Also, CYS taking advantage of social media so they can use their "stans" as sacrifices for Orochi plotline when? 

5 hours ago, Scotia said:

I would love to get a behind the scenes look at the writing for this game because it feels like every season they changed their minds as to where they actually wanted things to go. 

Looking at the credits, people exclusively from DIMPS are credited for the story. It makes me wonder if the DIMPS team just tried to go off what Capcom told them, it would explain how wildly inconsistent the stories can get in quality and tone. 

It's kind of sad because SFV was supposed to be the game that bridged the gap between the rest of the series and 3 only for it to suddenly go in all sorts of directions after ASF yet with so many loose threads left hanging. Story-wise, Capcom need to really commit to trying to tell their stories all the way through next time round and I doubt they will do that well because of all these different elements thrown in. 

12 hours ago, YagamiFire said:

Ash and Luke have braces?

Does he? I know he has nail varnish and freckles. Might need to catch up on XI today.

5 hours ago, BootyWarrior said:

The way people hating on Luke is similar to the hate Ash and the SFIII cast got when they were shown.

After first impressions have settled down, I don't think he's the absolute WORST choice they decided on but I do hope they refine him his design and presence in later games so that he isn't a waste.

Just now, Phantom_Miria said:

Sad day when you gotta hope that Maximilian Dood got his crazy lore theory right because it'd be a more interesting outcome than Luke being just Luke.

Honestly, that's an insult to CapCom

@YagamiFireI remember in SRK when you said something along the lines of the last character being akin to introducing "Ash Crimson before the Ash arc" 

In all seriousness, Luke looks like a character from one of those weird Western glitchy fighting games released late in the original Xbox's lifespan that you see in a charity shop. 

3 minutes ago, Vhozite said:

How many times do we think Luke has said “I’m not racist, but...”?

Luke is the kind of man to say  "I'm not racist but why can't we say the N-Word? You get to call me cracker" 

11 minutes ago, Miðgarðsorm said:

At least he's not Kyo Kusanagi

He has the same voice actor

2 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said:

Now Max is theorizing that he's actually Captain Commando's civilian identity

Ackshewelly, CapCom is a Canadian businessman named Mars Carlisle. 

13 minutes ago, Shakunetsu said:

What if his code name is .. GUNLOC?

In that case he got ugly as fuck considering he has cheese strings dangling out of his hair. 

When I first saw Luke, the first thought was that he looked like a white washed Rick Strowd, then it was the fact he looks like the kind of man that would visit the suicide forest in Japan and take selfies with corpses. 

1 hour ago, Hawkingbird said:

Bring Eiji back and another assassin character (Lin is due for a comeback) 

I'd rather have Lin team up with Duo Lon and somebody else (Kensou or Shen Woo probably)  to make a  "Dragon Spirit"/"Hizoku" team

The last we saw Lin, he was with Ron all bandaged up in XI. I wonder what SNK had planned for the story had they not taken the direction they did for XII/XIII. The last two arcs have had their last games be cursed in some way in terms of story so I hope that this arc actually gets the finale it needs without it being taken off the rails.