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    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from DoctaMario in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Procella, Latin for "Tempest".
    "Porcella" would be "SOW" in Italian, not the best pick for a move I would say. 😛
    Anyway, there's A LOT to note about Zangief:
    Also, Maeda was trained by Karl Gotch, who until 1961 went by the name Karl Krauser. Full circle.
    Obviously, Gotch also made the German Suplex the rightly respected move it is today, and it's worth noting that, when he used it in 1961 for the first time in Japan, it was still named ATOMIC Suplex. "German" came later, in honour of Gotch (whose real name was Karl Istaz; he was billed as a German even if he was actually Belgian, but no one would say Belgian Suplex...).
    Then there's Abdullah the Butcher's 地獄突き Jigoku tsuki ("hell stab", as it was also its name in Virtua Fighter when Jeffry McWild adopted the move in VF2). Most wrestling fans nowadays would recognise this blow as being used by The Undertaker or Kane (or Jinsei Shinzaki if they're into Japan), but Abby did it first in the Eighties, and it was him Capcom wanted to homage with Gief's crouching LP back in SF2.
     
     
    Then there's Zangief's Knee Hammer (f + MK): aka the Jumping Knee Bat, a staple move of Jumbo Tsuruta (also Akira Maeda and nowadays Jun Akiyama). He generally did it with the right arm up, a style instantly recognisable. Zangief's move is named ニーバット Knee Bat in the Japanese SFV, just to note that sometimes you also lose the immediate references in translation...
     

     
    And also already homaged by Tekken's King and Armor King, and DOA's Bass:

     
    Finally, the Mongolian Chop. Its inventor was Masashi Ozawa, better known as Killer Khan, another character created by Karl Gotch. Ozawa wrestled as a "Mongolian" for much of his career, first starting as Temjin El Mongol while in Mexico in 1978, then as Killer Khan in the USA in 1979. AoF2's Temujin is obviously modeled after him. His double chop was named "Mongolian" from his character, and then adopted by any "Mongolian" wrestler, real or not (they even gave the Mongolian Chop to AIGLE in Rumble Roses, just because she's Mongolian...). Killer Khan used the blow with a characteristic shriek, part of his so-called "Albatross style".¹
     
     
    The Mongolian Chop's legacy was inherited by Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Killer-O-Khan (another "Mongolian" who does the move just like Killer Khan, "albatross shriek" included), who just in 2021 had a feud centered around who had the RIGHT to use the move (LOL), so they had a match with a "loser can't use the Mongolian Chop anymore" stipulation in January 30, 2021. Tenzan lost and ceased to use the move... Until he had enough of it and ignored the ban just a month after that. 😂
     
     
    With so recent a drama about the move, it's no wonder the devs included it in the game.
     
     
     
     
    Neither Sagat nor Adon will come back. But don't worry! There will be a muay thai rep anyway!
     
    ¹ Also parodied by PUCK in BERSERK once, lol.

     
  2. LOL
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Bigtochiro in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    He was already leaked a year ago. Season 1 DLC, we'll never get rid of him.
  3. Sad
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from CESTUS III in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    He was already leaked a year ago. Season 1 DLC, we'll never get rid of him.
  4. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from BornWinner in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Procella, Latin for "Tempest".
    "Porcella" would be "SOW" in Italian, not the best pick for a move I would say. 😛
    Anyway, there's A LOT to note about Zangief:
    Also, Maeda was trained by Karl Gotch, who until 1961 went by the name Karl Krauser. Full circle.
    Obviously, Gotch also made the German Suplex the rightly respected move it is today, and it's worth noting that, when he used it in 1961 for the first time in Japan, it was still named ATOMIC Suplex. "German" came later, in honour of Gotch (whose real name was Karl Istaz; he was billed as a German even if he was actually Belgian, but no one would say Belgian Suplex...).
    Then there's Abdullah the Butcher's 地獄突き Jigoku tsuki ("hell stab", as it was also its name in Virtua Fighter when Jeffry McWild adopted the move in VF2). Most wrestling fans nowadays would recognise this blow as being used by The Undertaker or Kane (or Jinsei Shinzaki if they're into Japan), but Abby did it first in the Eighties, and it was him Capcom wanted to homage with Gief's crouching LP back in SF2.
     
     
    Then there's Zangief's Knee Hammer (f + MK): aka the Jumping Knee Bat, a staple move of Jumbo Tsuruta (also Akira Maeda and nowadays Jun Akiyama). He generally did it with the right arm up, a style instantly recognisable. Zangief's move is named ニーバット Knee Bat in the Japanese SFV, just to note that sometimes you also lose the immediate references in translation...
     

     
    And also already homaged by Tekken's King and Armor King, and DOA's Bass:

     
    Finally, the Mongolian Chop. Its inventor was Masashi Ozawa, better known as Killer Khan, another character created by Karl Gotch. Ozawa wrestled as a "Mongolian" for much of his career, first starting as Temjin El Mongol while in Mexico in 1978, then as Killer Khan in the USA in 1979. AoF2's Temujin is obviously modeled after him. His double chop was named "Mongolian" from his character, and then adopted by any "Mongolian" wrestler, real or not (they even gave the Mongolian Chop to AIGLE in Rumble Roses, just because she's Mongolian...). Killer Khan used the blow with a characteristic shriek, part of his so-called "Albatross style".¹
     
     
    The Mongolian Chop's legacy was inherited by Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Killer-O-Khan (another "Mongolian" who does the move just like Killer Khan, "albatross shriek" included), who just in 2021 had a feud centered around who had the RIGHT to use the move (LOL), so they had a match with a "loser can't use the Mongolian Chop anymore" stipulation in January 30, 2021. Tenzan lost and ceased to use the move... Until he had enough of it and ignored the ban just a month after that. 😂
     
     
    With so recent a drama about the move, it's no wonder the devs included it in the game.
     
     
     
     
    Neither Sagat nor Adon will come back. But don't worry! There will be a muay thai rep anyway!
     
    ¹ Also parodied by PUCK in BERSERK once, lol.

     
  5. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Jocelot in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Procella, Latin for "Tempest".
    "Porcella" would be "SOW" in Italian, not the best pick for a move I would say. 😛
    Anyway, there's A LOT to note about Zangief:
    Also, Maeda was trained by Karl Gotch, who until 1961 went by the name Karl Krauser. Full circle.
    Obviously, Gotch also made the German Suplex the rightly respected move it is today, and it's worth noting that, when he used it in 1961 for the first time in Japan, it was still named ATOMIC Suplex. "German" came later, in honour of Gotch (whose real name was Karl Istaz; he was billed as a German even if he was actually Belgian, but no one would say Belgian Suplex...).
    Then there's Abdullah the Butcher's 地獄突き Jigoku tsuki ("hell stab", as it was also its name in Virtua Fighter when Jeffry McWild adopted the move in VF2). Most wrestling fans nowadays would recognise this blow as being used by The Undertaker or Kane (or Jinsei Shinzaki if they're into Japan), but Abby did it first in the Eighties, and it was him Capcom wanted to homage with Gief's crouching LP back in SF2.
     
     
    Then there's Zangief's Knee Hammer (f + MK): aka the Jumping Knee Bat, a staple move of Jumbo Tsuruta (also Akira Maeda and nowadays Jun Akiyama). He generally did it with the right arm up, a style instantly recognisable. Zangief's move is named ニーバット Knee Bat in the Japanese SFV, just to note that sometimes you also lose the immediate references in translation...
     

     
    And also already homaged by Tekken's King and Armor King, and DOA's Bass:

     
    Finally, the Mongolian Chop. Its inventor was Masashi Ozawa, better known as Killer Khan, another character created by Karl Gotch. Ozawa wrestled as a "Mongolian" for much of his career, first starting as Temjin El Mongol while in Mexico in 1978, then as Killer Khan in the USA in 1979. AoF2's Temujin is obviously modeled after him. His double chop was named "Mongolian" from his character, and then adopted by any "Mongolian" wrestler, real or not (they even gave the Mongolian Chop to AIGLE in Rumble Roses, just because she's Mongolian...). Killer Khan used the blow with a characteristic shriek, part of his so-called "Albatross style".¹
     
     
    The Mongolian Chop's legacy was inherited by Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Killer-O-Khan (another "Mongolian" who does the move just like Killer Khan, "albatross shriek" included), who just in 2021 had a feud centered around who had the RIGHT to use the move (LOL), so they had a match with a "loser can't use the Mongolian Chop anymore" stipulation in January 30, 2021. Tenzan lost and ceased to use the move... Until he had enough of it and ignored the ban just a month after that. 😂
     
     
    With so recent a drama about the move, it's no wonder the devs included it in the game.
     
     
     
     
    Neither Sagat nor Adon will come back. But don't worry! There will be a muay thai rep anyway!
     
    ¹ Also parodied by PUCK in BERSERK once, lol.

     
  6. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Hawkingbird in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Procella, Latin for "Tempest".
    "Porcella" would be "SOW" in Italian, not the best pick for a move I would say. 😛
    Anyway, there's A LOT to note about Zangief:
    Also, Maeda was trained by Karl Gotch, who until 1961 went by the name Karl Krauser. Full circle.
    Obviously, Gotch also made the German Suplex the rightly respected move it is today, and it's worth noting that, when he used it in 1961 for the first time in Japan, it was still named ATOMIC Suplex. "German" came later, in honour of Gotch (whose real name was Karl Istaz; he was billed as a German even if he was actually Belgian, but no one would say Belgian Suplex...).
    Then there's Abdullah the Butcher's 地獄突き Jigoku tsuki ("hell stab", as it was also its name in Virtua Fighter when Jeffry McWild adopted the move in VF2). Most wrestling fans nowadays would recognise this blow as being used by The Undertaker or Kane (or Jinsei Shinzaki if they're into Japan), but Abby did it first in the Eighties, and it was him Capcom wanted to homage with Gief's crouching LP back in SF2.
     
     
    Then there's Zangief's Knee Hammer (f + MK): aka the Jumping Knee Bat, a staple move of Jumbo Tsuruta (also Akira Maeda and nowadays Jun Akiyama). He generally did it with the right arm up, a style instantly recognisable. Zangief's move is named ニーバット Knee Bat in the Japanese SFV, just to note that sometimes you also lose the immediate references in translation...
     

     
    And also already homaged by Tekken's King and Armor King, and DOA's Bass:

     
    Finally, the Mongolian Chop. Its inventor was Masashi Ozawa, better known as Killer Khan, another character created by Karl Gotch. Ozawa wrestled as a "Mongolian" for much of his career, first starting as Temjin El Mongol while in Mexico in 1978, then as Killer Khan in the USA in 1979. AoF2's Temujin is obviously modeled after him. His double chop was named "Mongolian" from his character, and then adopted by any "Mongolian" wrestler, real or not (they even gave the Mongolian Chop to AIGLE in Rumble Roses, just because she's Mongolian...). Killer Khan used the blow with a characteristic shriek, part of his so-called "Albatross style".¹
     
     
    The Mongolian Chop's legacy was inherited by Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Killer-O-Khan (another "Mongolian" who does the move just like Killer Khan, "albatross shriek" included), who just in 2021 had a feud centered around who had the RIGHT to use the move (LOL), so they had a match with a "loser can't use the Mongolian Chop anymore" stipulation in January 30, 2021. Tenzan lost and ceased to use the move... Until he had enough of it and ignored the ban just a month after that. 😂
     
     
    With so recent a drama about the move, it's no wonder the devs included it in the game.
     
     
     
     
    Neither Sagat nor Adon will come back. But don't worry! There will be a muay thai rep anyway!
     
    ¹ Also parodied by PUCK in BERSERK once, lol.

     
  7. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from -PVL93- in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Procella, Latin for "Tempest".
    "Porcella" would be "SOW" in Italian, not the best pick for a move I would say. 😛
    Anyway, there's A LOT to note about Zangief:
    Also, Maeda was trained by Karl Gotch, who until 1961 went by the name Karl Krauser. Full circle.
    Obviously, Gotch also made the German Suplex the rightly respected move it is today, and it's worth noting that, when he used it in 1961 for the first time in Japan, it was still named ATOMIC Suplex. "German" came later, in honour of Gotch (whose real name was Karl Istaz; he was billed as a German even if he was actually Belgian, but no one would say Belgian Suplex...).
    Then there's Abdullah the Butcher's 地獄突き Jigoku tsuki ("hell stab", as it was also its name in Virtua Fighter when Jeffry McWild adopted the move in VF2). Most wrestling fans nowadays would recognise this blow as being used by The Undertaker or Kane (or Jinsei Shinzaki if they're into Japan), but Abby did it first in the Eighties, and it was him Capcom wanted to homage with Gief's crouching LP back in SF2.
     
     
    Then there's Zangief's Knee Hammer (f + MK): aka the Jumping Knee Bat, a staple move of Jumbo Tsuruta (also Akira Maeda and nowadays Jun Akiyama). He generally did it with the right arm up, a style instantly recognisable. Zangief's move is named ニーバット Knee Bat in the Japanese SFV, just to note that sometimes you also lose the immediate references in translation...
     

     
    And also already homaged by Tekken's King and Armor King, and DOA's Bass:

     
    Finally, the Mongolian Chop. Its inventor was Masashi Ozawa, better known as Killer Khan, another character created by Karl Gotch. Ozawa wrestled as a "Mongolian" for much of his career, first starting as Temjin El Mongol while in Mexico in 1978, then as Killer Khan in the USA in 1979. AoF2's Temujin is obviously modeled after him. His double chop was named "Mongolian" from his character, and then adopted by any "Mongolian" wrestler, real or not (they even gave the Mongolian Chop to AIGLE in Rumble Roses, just because she's Mongolian...). Killer Khan used the blow with a characteristic shriek, part of his so-called "Albatross style".¹
     
     
    The Mongolian Chop's legacy was inherited by Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Killer-O-Khan (another "Mongolian" who does the move just like Killer Khan, "albatross shriek" included), who just in 2021 had a feud centered around who had the RIGHT to use the move (LOL), so they had a match with a "loser can't use the Mongolian Chop anymore" stipulation in January 30, 2021. Tenzan lost and ceased to use the move... Until he had enough of it and ignored the ban just a month after that. 😂
     
     
    With so recent a drama about the move, it's no wonder the devs included it in the game.
     
     
     
     
    Neither Sagat nor Adon will come back. But don't worry! There will be a muay thai rep anyway!
     
    ¹ Also parodied by PUCK in BERSERK once, lol.

     
  8. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Shakunetsu in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Procella, Latin for "Tempest".
    "Porcella" would be "SOW" in Italian, not the best pick for a move I would say. 😛
    Anyway, there's A LOT to note about Zangief:
    Also, Maeda was trained by Karl Gotch, who until 1961 went by the name Karl Krauser. Full circle.
    Obviously, Gotch also made the German Suplex the rightly respected move it is today, and it's worth noting that, when he used it in 1961 for the first time in Japan, it was still named ATOMIC Suplex. "German" came later, in honour of Gotch (whose real name was Karl Istaz; he was billed as a German even if he was actually Belgian, but no one would say Belgian Suplex...).
    Then there's Abdullah the Butcher's 地獄突き Jigoku tsuki ("hell stab", as it was also its name in Virtua Fighter when Jeffry McWild adopted the move in VF2). Most wrestling fans nowadays would recognise this blow as being used by The Undertaker or Kane (or Jinsei Shinzaki if they're into Japan), but Abby did it first in the Eighties, and it was him Capcom wanted to homage with Gief's crouching LP back in SF2.
     
     
    Then there's Zangief's Knee Hammer (f + MK): aka the Jumping Knee Bat, a staple move of Jumbo Tsuruta (also Akira Maeda and nowadays Jun Akiyama). He generally did it with the right arm up, a style instantly recognisable. Zangief's move is named ニーバット Knee Bat in the Japanese SFV, just to note that sometimes you also lose the immediate references in translation...
     

     
    And also already homaged by Tekken's King and Armor King, and DOA's Bass:

     
    Finally, the Mongolian Chop. Its inventor was Masashi Ozawa, better known as Killer Khan, another character created by Karl Gotch. Ozawa wrestled as a "Mongolian" for much of his career, first starting as Temjin El Mongol while in Mexico in 1978, then as Killer Khan in the USA in 1979. AoF2's Temujin is obviously modeled after him. His double chop was named "Mongolian" from his character, and then adopted by any "Mongolian" wrestler, real or not (they even gave the Mongolian Chop to AIGLE in Rumble Roses, just because she's Mongolian...). Killer Khan used the blow with a characteristic shriek, part of his so-called "Albatross style".¹
     
     
    The Mongolian Chop's legacy was inherited by Hiroyoshi Tenzan and Killer-O-Khan (another "Mongolian" who does the move just like Killer Khan, "albatross shriek" included), who just in 2021 had a feud centered around who had the RIGHT to use the move (LOL), so they had a match with a "loser can't use the Mongolian Chop anymore" stipulation in January 30, 2021. Tenzan lost and ceased to use the move... Until he had enough of it and ignored the ban just a month after that. 😂
     
     
    With so recent a drama about the move, it's no wonder the devs included it in the game.
     
     
     
     
    Neither Sagat nor Adon will come back. But don't worry! There will be a muay thai rep anyway!
     
    ¹ Also parodied by PUCK in BERSERK once, lol.

     
  9. Love
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to EvilCanadian in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    no!
    i made a whole video of honda propaganda and put it up yesterday just because Honda is getting the level of disrespect he is
     
    and IT FUCKING WORKED
     
    theres now a bunch of FGC zoomers that think Honda is interesting, E. Honda keeps on winning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  12. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Hawkingbird in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Cammy has a new throw which seems a low throw.
    Ok, so Zangief HAS the Running Bear Grab. GOOD.
    Also, the EX SPD has him CALLING THE MOVE. 😍
    Marisa carrying him at the end is hilarious. 😂
  13. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from -PVL93- in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Tiger Mask has nothing to do with Fray Tormenta, however. The manga Tiger Mask was first published in 1967, and Tormenta debuted in the ring in 1978. It's a case of life imitating art.
    King however absolutely could've been influenced by Tormenta, but only for the priest thing. All of his moves reference real or fictional wrestlers, the vast majority of them Japanese.
  14. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from CESTUS III in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Tiger Mask has nothing to do with Fray Tormenta, however. The manga Tiger Mask was first published in 1967, and Tormenta debuted in the ring in 1978. It's a case of life imitating art.
    King however absolutely could've been influenced by Tormenta, but only for the priest thing. All of his moves reference real or fictional wrestlers, the vast majority of them Japanese.
  15. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Darc_Requiem in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Tiger Mask has nothing to do with Fray Tormenta, however. The manga Tiger Mask was first published in 1967, and Tormenta debuted in the ring in 1978. It's a case of life imitating art.
    King however absolutely could've been influenced by Tormenta, but only for the priest thing. All of his moves reference real or fictional wrestlers, the vast majority of them Japanese.
  16. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from BornWinner in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    I suppose that's because the first real wrestler to use the Tiger Mask gimmick was Satoru Sayama in 1981, when Antonio Inoki acquired the rights of the character from its creator Ikki Kajiwara. 1981 was also when the second animated series of Tiger Mask debuted, three days before Sayama's debut as Tiger Mask, in an obvious marketing move to promote his enormously successful stint.
  17. +1
    Miðgarðsorm reacted to BornWinner in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    For some reason, I thought the series started in the 80s. Cool fact though, thank you for informing me. 
  18. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from TWINBLADES in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Tiger Mask has nothing to do with Fray Tormenta, however. The manga Tiger Mask was first published in 1967, and Tormenta debuted in the ring in 1978. It's a case of life imitating art.
    King however absolutely could've been influenced by Tormenta, but only for the priest thing. All of his moves reference real or fictional wrestlers, the vast majority of them Japanese.
  19. Love
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from BornWinner in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Tiger Mask has nothing to do with Fray Tormenta, however. The manga Tiger Mask was first published in 1967, and Tormenta debuted in the ring in 1978. It's a case of life imitating art.
    King however absolutely could've been influenced by Tormenta, but only for the priest thing. All of his moves reference real or fictional wrestlers, the vast majority of them Japanese.
  20. Love
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Daemos in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Yes, but the Japanese named them so because they were referencing things THEY knew.
    In Japan, Vega was first and foremost the evil alien emperor in UFO Robot Grendizer.
    And Capcom had already used Balrog in Strider, so it was more of a self-reference.
  21. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from ShockDingo in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Yes, but the Japanese named them so because they were referencing things THEY knew.
    In Japan, Vega was first and foremost the evil alien emperor in UFO Robot Grendizer.
    And Capcom had already used Balrog in Strider, so it was more of a self-reference.
  22. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from ToreyBeans in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Yes, but the Japanese named them so because they were referencing things THEY knew.
    In Japan, Vega was first and foremost the evil alien emperor in UFO Robot Grendizer.
    And Capcom had already used Balrog in Strider, so it was more of a self-reference.
  23. Insightful
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from AriesWarlock in Street Fighter 6 Lounge: The FGC has a crack problem.   
    Crossposting from the lore thread.
     
    Cammy has a new throw which seems a low throw.
    Ok, so Zangief HAS the Running Bear Grab. GOOD.
    Also, the EX SPD has him CALLING THE MOVE. 😍
    Marisa carrying him at the end is hilarious. 😂
  24. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from Darc_Requiem in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Cammy has a new throw which seems a low throw.
    Ok, so Zangief HAS the Running Bear Grab. GOOD.
    Also, the EX SPD has him CALLING THE MOVE. 😍
    Marisa carrying him at the end is hilarious. 😂
  25. +1
    Miðgarðsorm got a reaction from ToreyBeans in The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!   
    Cammy has a new throw which seems a low throw.
    Ok, so Zangief HAS the Running Bear Grab. GOOD.
    Also, the EX SPD has him CALLING THE MOVE. 😍
    Marisa carrying him at the end is hilarious. 😂
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