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You never got "why does it matter" for Birdie because it's a drastic change. It's understandable if people are split on his look.
 
The shit these face-gaters are on is not drastic at all. They're acting like it's Birdie in SFV when it's not even close. That's why you get "why does it matter" there.

To the maybe one or two of you who know who Joyner Lucas is, tell me this isn't some shit he would do.

To the maybe one or two of you who know who Joyner Lucas is, tell me this isn't some shit he would do.

To the maybe one or two of you who know who Joyner Lucas is, tell me this isn't some shit he would do.

To the maybe one or two of you who know who Joyner Lucas is, tell me this isn't some shit he would do.

To the maybe one or two of you who know who Joyner Lucas is, tell me this isn't some shit he would do.

The thing is, literally everybody agreed that ugly sonic was a nightmare. That's why they changed it.
 
Only a small portion of people on the internet think that the "face-gate" girls are ugly period or ugly compared to their model. That's why they just get eye-rolls from most people.

To the maybe one or two of you who know who Joyner Lucas is, tell me this isn't some shit he would do.

I can go to the same social media, sales, or youtube you do to see that you only speak for a few people in comparison to everyone else. Again, I don't know what hug-box you're in, but most people do not give a fuck about this shit. I happen to be one of those people, and truly can't understand those who do. It's why I asked in the first place.
 
Wrong.
MK11, the last game, sold 3 mil by the end of 2019 (the year of it's release) after an April release. MK1 has sold over 3 mil now, 6 months past release. Not "way less".
https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/11/09/mortal-kombat-1-sales-3-million-copies-vs-other-mk-games
 
Spiderman 1 sold 9m units by the end of 2018 (the year of its release) after dropping in September. Spider-Man 2 has sold 10m to date after dropping in october. It has been a slower climb, but still not "way less" than SM1 by the same time out.
 
Horizon 1 sold 7 mil its first year, and Horizon 2 sold 8. Again, not "way less".
 
Horizon Forbidden West is the only one of these that's been out more than a year (vs the predecessors, which have been out 5), so I'm doing first year sales. And also, even if you were right and sales had a major decline, linking that to "not as hot/appealing as I'd like" faces in any way is crazy talk.
It's just stupid to suggest the game would fail even partially because of the heroine's face vs literally anything else people are talking about with that game right now. And again, no games are failing because of this type of shit.
 
I'm not. I said the fixation on a VG lady being hot is weird. I said I could understand if it was a dogface or something drastic, and this shit people are flipping out over just isn't drastic. This is not just "aesthetics in games", it's "I only deal with the finest digital bitches". You can keep your money and avoid any game you want because a lady (main or not) isn't as hot as you think she should be. That's fine. But to prattle on about it sounds childish to most people. I can't help that. And that's not arrogance (at least on my part). It's just me having grown out of that by 13.

To the maybe one or two of you who know who Joyner Lucas is, tell me this isn't some shit he would do.

I can go to the same social media, sales, or youtube you do to see that you only speak for a few people in comparison to everyone else. Again, I don't know what hug-box you're in, but most people do not give a fuck about this shit. I happen to be one of those people, and truly can't understand those who do. It's why I asked in the first place.
 
Wrong.
MK11, the last game, sold 3 mil by the end of 2019 (the year of it's release) after an April release. MK1 has sold over 3 mil now, 6 months past release. Not "way less".
https://gameworldobserver.com/2023/11/09/mortal-kombat-1-sales-3-million-copies-vs-other-mk-games
 
Spiderman 1 sold 9m units by the end of 2018 (the year of its release) after dropping in September. Spider-Man 2 has sold 10m to date after dropping in october. It has been a slower climb, but still not "way less" than SM1 by the same time out.
 
Horizon 1 sold 7 mil its first year, and Horizon 2 sold 8. Again, not "way less".
 
Horizon Forbidden West is the only one of these that's been out more than a year (vs the predecessors, which have been out 5), so I'm doing first year sales. And also, even if you were right and sales had a major decline, linking that to "not as hot/appealing as I'd like" faces in any way is crazy talk.
It's just stupid to suggest the game would fail even partially because of the heroine's face vs literally anything else people are talking about with that game right now. And again, no games are failing because of this type of shit.
 
I'm not. I said the fixation on a VG lady being hot is weird. I said I could understand if it was a dogface or something drastic, and this shit people are flipping out over just isn't drastic. This is not just "aesthetics in games", it's "I only deal with the finest digital bitches". You can keep your money and avoid any game you want because a lady (main or not) isn't as hot as you think she should be. That's fine. But to prattle on about it sounds childish to most people. I can't help that. And that's not arrogance (at least on my part). It's just me having grown out of that by 13.

Look how fucking ugly they made Peach in the latest Mario game. 
 

 
Well, unless you're Zatalcon, I guess. 

The thing is, literally everybody agreed that ugly sonic was a nightmare. That's why they changed it.
 
Only a small portion of people on the internet think that the "face-gate" girls are ugly period or ugly compared to their model. That's why they just get eye-rolls from most people.

The thing is, literally everybody agreed that ugly sonic was a nightmare. That's why they changed it.
 
Only a small portion of people on the internet think that the "face-gate" girls are ugly period or ugly compared to their model. That's why they just get eye-rolls from most people.

The thing is, literally everybody agreed that ugly sonic was a nightmare. That's why they changed it.
 
Only a small portion of people on the internet think that the "face-gate" girls are ugly period or ugly compared to their model. That's why they just get eye-rolls from most people.

The crazy thing about this whole mess is that it does not fucking matter whatsoever.  It's puddlegate, only more pathetic, since puddlegate at least stopped when Spider-Man 1 came out. I could see some bitching over things if differences between games (or models and characters) were drastic, but people are bitching over differences that are not major at all.
 
Hell, even if the gaming industry WAS undoubtedly making women less attractive in gaming, does that affect gameplay at all? Does it take people out of the story? The overwhelming answer seems to be no. I know for me, a woman being finer would not have moved the needle one mm on any game I loved/hated over the past 20 or so years I've been gaming. That's why this whole thing baffles me: I literally can't imagine a man over the age of 18 giving a fuck about how hot video game girls are. That is, unless it's an affront to the character somehow. All the stuff people whine about so far hasn't been.

Because:
1.) There's debate, even here, on if there even were changes in the first place.
2.) If there are these tiny differences between model and character (for regular characters that should be 1-1), they could be for a multitude of reasons relating to gaming engine.
3.) Again, even if there were these changes, we're talking changes where people debate if they exist. That lets you know they're not serious. Why are these non-serious changes grinding to you personally? If they changed it, what do you get out of a game where the in game model looks a little more like the face model?
1.) Don't let whatever echo chamber you're in fool you: most people do NOT give one thrust of a fuck about this, or see any "pattern". People were crying a little over Tanya's face in MK1. MK1 still sold. People were crying over Mary Jane in Spider-Man 2. That game still sold. People were crying over Aloy's face. Forbidden West still sold. Even on social media/youtube, if there are problems brought up with those games, it has NOTHING to do with the faces. This star wars game will be the same. Whether it bombs or sells well, nobody will give a fuck about the heroine's face at that point.
 
2.) Art style is one thing; this fervent need for a video game girl to be hot is another. It doesn't affect gameplay, which is why most people don't care about it. And plus, the girls aren't even unattractive (to most people). I could see if they made somebody into a real dogface when the model is a hottie. Or, like, made Mary Jane a white Zendaya in Spider-Man 2 for no reason. But this is picking over tiny differences that, again, most people don't care about. So why do you care about them?

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The crazy thing about this whole mess is that it does not fucking matter whatsoever.  It's puddlegate, only more pathetic, since puddlegate at least stopped when Spider-Man 1 came out. I could see some bitching over things if differences between games (or models and characters) were drastic, but people are bitching over differences that are not major at all.
 
Hell, even if the gaming industry WAS undoubtedly making women less attractive in gaming, does that affect gameplay at all? Does it take people out of the story? The overwhelming answer seems to be no. I know for me, a woman being finer would not have moved the needle one mm on any game I loved/hated over the past 20 or so years I've been gaming. That's why this whole thing baffles me: I literally can't imagine a man over the age of 18 giving a fuck about how hot video game girls are. That is, unless it's an affront to the character somehow. All the stuff people whine about so far hasn't been.

The crazy thing about this whole mess is that it does not fucking matter whatsoever.  It's puddlegate, only more pathetic, since puddlegate at least stopped when Spider-Man 1 came out. I could see some bitching over things if differences between games (or models and characters) were drastic, but people are bitching over differences that are not major at all.
 
Hell, even if the gaming industry WAS undoubtedly making women less attractive in gaming, does that affect gameplay at all? Does it take people out of the story? The overwhelming answer seems to be no. I know for me, a woman being finer would not have moved the needle one mm on any game I loved/hated over the past 20 or so years I've been gaming. That's why this whole thing baffles me: I literally can't imagine a man over the age of 18 giving a fuck about how hot video game girls are. That is, unless it's an affront to the character somehow. All the stuff people whine about so far hasn't been.

The crazy thing about this whole mess is that it does not fucking matter whatsoever.  It's puddlegate, only more pathetic, since puddlegate at least stopped when Spider-Man 1 came out. I could see some bitching over things if differences between games (or models and characters) were drastic, but people are bitching over differences that are not major at all.
 
Hell, even if the gaming industry WAS undoubtedly making women less attractive in gaming, does that affect gameplay at all? Does it take people out of the story? The overwhelming answer seems to be no. I know for me, a woman being finer would not have moved the needle one mm on any game I loved/hated over the past 20 or so years I've been gaming. That's why this whole thing baffles me: I literally can't imagine a man over the age of 18 giving a fuck about how hot video game girls are. That is, unless it's an affront to the character somehow. All the stuff people whine about so far hasn't been.