Miðgarðsorm

14 minutes ago, JustBooming said:

 

That's the freaking 360° split kick of Jean-Claude Van Damme!

8 hours ago, Phantom_Miria said:

Hmm...

 

Well, Luke doesn't have the pipe...

2 hours ago, JustBooming said:

No idea where this is originally from, saw it on Reddit - could well be bollocks.

Well, if they're really going to give us JULI and not JURI it's certainly bollocks. 😛
As much as I'd like to see Juli and Juni again, just to know where are they now, I don't think they would gladly fight again.
Sometimes I wonder if Capcom would also create Judi, Juvi and Jumi (obviously identical triplets) just to confuse the players even more.
Then Jubi, Juci, Jufi, Jugi...

On 11/10/2022 at 7:11 PM, CESTUS III said:

Was curious to check what could have been her name, end up discover November is Native American heritage month since 1990, did'nt knew that (guess american posters here knew though)... maybe that was the link?

 

But to find an actual word for the month i'm having harder time, to begin with idk wich language Thunderfoot tribe is supposed to talk

 

Only found "Nvadequa" wich apparently is November said by Cherokee, probably not like a Thunderfoot imaginary native would say it but still more legit than japanized latin 🤣

It's pointless searching for a real language when the Thunderfoot tribe is not a real tribe, and was created along the most common stereotypes regarding the Plains Indians, or, to be more specific, the Lakotas. The Cherokees never dwelt in tipis, while Thunderfoot clearly live in tipis, as shown in Hawk's SFIV prologue. Not to mention there was a real historical Lakota warrior named Čhetáŋ Wakíŋyaŋ, aka "Thunder Hawk". Anyway, the stereotype the Japanese have of "American Indians" is more or less the same as the "generic Indian" all the world had, which was more or less based upon "Lakotas with totem poles" (Lakotas never carved totem poles, which were typical of the Northwest Coast cultures). If November was to be spelt in Lakota, then she would've been Waníyetu wí ("winter month") or Tȟakhíyuȟa wí ("ruminant rutting month"). Lily would be... Too many names, it depends on which lily species is, lol.

Anyway, as I said that's useless.

On 11/7/2022 at 7:23 PM, DarthEnderX said:

Lily 100% just started out as Noembelu.  Both part of T. Hawk's tribe?

 

That was already confirmed by the leaked audio commentary, anyway. What's still unknown is what relation has she with him. I doubt Lily is his daughter; maybe his or November'¹s sister?
 

¹ God, I hate that name, it's LAZY and disrespectful. They named her NOUEMBER after the LATIN name of the month. Because... Capcom didn't know any Native American language so they just chose the "old-sounding one"? I don't know, but that's already bad... Then they further screwed up the transliteration in... LATIN characters, and we ended up with the absurd NOEMBELU. They could've corrected this at any moment, but nooo.
So we have a fictional Native American tribe with an English name (Thunderfoot), with two members (Thunder Hawk and Lily) with an English name; his father with an HALF SPANISH-HALF ENGLISH name (Arroyo Hawk), and another with a LATIN name because... WTF?

2 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

Fun thing is if truly the 4th guy in the first group was supposed to be SF3 Jiu-Jitsu rep who use all throws, even before know this he already gave me strong Izou Motobe (specially first version) vibes, similar rugged look, hair, beard and clothes and weird menacing aura...

LOL, I said the same two days ago.

Also, since I spoke about that mainly on Twitter...

7 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

 

Curious to know if the girl was supposed to be grown up Tiffany, some things match lol

 

Absolutely NOT, but obviously she came from the same common source, aka Shinji Hiramatsu's 1979 manga Mister Lady, as I already said once. Akiman is a fan of Hiramatsu's works, and reused many of his ideas. They even referenced that in her description, "An American girl, wearing the flag colours. She has freckles and is a basic American girl (lady?)"

Maybe I'll translate something in the coming days, but this month is going to be a working nightmare for me.

45 minutes ago, Lord_Vega said:

When you have some time, could you please check the translation accuracy  @Miðgarðsorm? Thanks in advance!

The first 30 seconds at least were ok, so I don't think they screwed up something.

1 hour ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

Yes, that's Kimberly's VA Anairis Quinones speaking Japanese. I don't know if the first taunt is a count or some kind of jutsu, but I'm pretty sure the 2nd taunt she's saying "Thank you, from the Bushinryu". 

Yes, that's correct. I quote myself:

On 10/8/2022 at 5:53 PM, Miðgarðsorm said:

Kimberly does a kujikiri ("nine signs cut"), a sequence of hand gestures thought to enhance perception or as a spell to ward off calamities, typical of esoteric branches of Buddhism (密教 mikkyō, "secret teachings") and often featured in ninja related stuff. It should be performed with very precise hand gestures, but Kimberly here just seems to dance with it as if it were the lyrics of a song. The sequences vary, but the most used one in martial arts contexts (and by Kimberly as well) goes 臨 兵 闘 者 皆 陣 裂 在 前 rin - pyō - tō - sha - kai - jin - retsu - zai - zen, roughly "my soldiers are ready to fight, all deployed in front of me", from which generally they extrapolate more esoteric meanings.

As @CESTUS IIIpointed out, Guy also did the same in SFIV.
Ibuki also does it during her CA in SFV, but only the hand gestures without their names spelt out loud, very quickly.

29 minutes ago, Daemos said:

It's also apparently Chernobog not Chernobyl according to @Dragonfave723. Which fits with the old slavic divinities theme you mentioned.

Yup, it's definitely Чернобог Černobog. We all remember him in Disney's Fantasia.

There's also a... Niža? It could be a mispronunciation of the god of the underworld Niya.

Definitely NOT a moveset for a NICE guy... 😛

24 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

description apparently was

I translated it, I remember it very well.

24 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

I think it's also the same Guy did in SF4 (timestamped)

Yes, but Guy also did the correct hand gestures. Kimberly seems to treat it more like a cool dance.

On 10/7/2022 at 7:15 PM, CESTUS III said:

 

Kimberly does a kujikiri ("nine signs cut"), a sequence of hand gestures thought to enhance perception or as a spell to ward off calamities, typical of esoteric branches of Buddhism (密教 mikkyō, "secret teachings") and often featured in ninja related stuff. It should be performed with very precise hand gestures, but Kimberly here just seems to dance with it as if it were the lyrics of a song. The sequences vary, but the most used one in martial arts contexts (and by Kimberly as well) goes 臨 兵 闘 者 皆 陣 裂 在 前 rin - pyō - tō - sha - kai - jin - retsu - zai - zen, roughly "my soldiers are ready to fight, all deployed in front of me", from which generally they extrapolate more esoteric meanings.

Anyway, Lily is more or less a T.Hawk clone. I heard MEXICAN TYPHOON, so she should play very similar to him.
Marisa has a super armor ad moves in... LATIN, LOL. I heard gladius (sword), procella (storm) and quadriga.

More importantly, Zangief "has more throws than ever".

11 hours ago, Hawkingbird said:

He maintained his rivalry with Giant Baba. That's awesome

Actually there's nothing that points towards that. The original Japanese text says Inoki is a 大物キラー Ōmono killer, "BIG NAME killer", not specifically a GIANT killer. So he could be rival with a still unnamed SF version of Giant Baba, but they didn't say that anywhere.
I'm almost tempted to start a thread just for the single moves and references that countless characters took from Inoki. He was everywhere. EVERYWHERE.

41 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

With UDON we won't get shit like whatever Abigail character story was, Lucia having an arcade ending where her instant noodles got cold, Honda beating up random people as a promotion to a bathhouse.

With UDON we got shit like Zangief cheating using the KGB during a match against Haggar and still losing (because Haggar also used the CIA, of course!). Or Zangief being beaten like a moron by Mika after having accidentally touched her butt with a green hand, all the while thinking it was all REAL and fighting seriously, when Mika treated it all like a show instead. Or Dan being beaten by all the Iwashigahama wrestlers, who then all relaxed with him in the same bathhouse because YEAH, IT'S ALL FAKE, BUT HERE ARE THE TITS AND THE ARSES YOU WANT, HORNY BOYS. LOOK!
Or the horrid story with Laura and Rikuo. That's supreme writing indeed. Yeah.
While it's clear Capcom doesn't know what to do with some characters (not that everyone should have a GRAND, IMPACTFUL story, anyway), the same could be said about UDON, which also tends to rapidly flanderise the characters or use terrible fanon. They had some good ideas, like the miniseries about Ibuki (and even here, the constantly angry Makoto was a flanderisation of her character), or Elena using her Healing to restore Zabel/Lord Raptor's humanity during the Darkstalkers crossover, but too many times they've been cringy as hell.

Just now, Hawkingbird said:

Honestly I would have more confidence in street fighters story if it was in their hands. They have done a good job making sense of Capcom's mess.

Sorry but NO.
Some good ideas here and there, but NO.

1 hour ago, CESTUS III said:

Too bad lol, even if that was fan-fiction masked as leaked canon still was better than ASF 😅

Any fanfiction would've been better than ASF. I could think about a story where the protagonist is BLANKA and he erases the Shadaloo base with an electric fart and it would still be better than ASF.
But I wouldn't go to 4chan claiming to be an insider just to "prove" it.

6 minutes ago, Shakunetsu said:

Interesting, I hope this would be clarified and official,

 

but this is just close to the many speculation and theory we also had about Necali and Bison from years ago every time we hit the discussion that includes the SFV trailer, battle damage Bison and the Shadow falls final battle ending. It's no surprise because that's what many assumed it to be.

 

I hope someone from Capcom could finally clear it just like with G.

The problem is exactly THAT. It seems someone just took the speculations the fandom made and tried to "officialise" them by making himself pass for an insider.

2 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

Nayshall some fictional SF place?  Google's got nothing.

Its Japanese version was ナイシャール Naishaaru, nothing here as well, just SF related posts. A fictional SF place without doubt.

On 6/3/2022 at 3:54 PM, BootyWarrior said:

Some story related leaks from 4chan.

 

Ken

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Q: 

Why the fuck does Ken look like a hobo?

 

A: Fuck it, I’ll risk my job for this

 

Ken goes on a journey similar to Ryu to master his skills. But it cost him his finance and family, so he’s looking to fight Ryu once more to regain his glory. A lot of the characters, Luke included, call Ken a washed up has been, which is going to be his story for the roaming mode. It’s your job to help him gain his confidence back

 

Laura shows up in the story mode, and Sean too, to try to motivate Ken in making a comeback

 

Q: 

That's kind cool, but what's with the dogtag?

 

A: 

It belongs to Mel Masters

 

 

 

The reason this might be legit is because of Menat's winquote: 

 

 

 

Poison

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Q: Will Poison be in the game?

 

A: Later on. She’s currently a celebrity alongside Hugo, so they are sitting this one out until the DLC comes out. Capcom realizes that she prints money at this point. Hugo, not so much.

 

Concerning SFIII characters on what Capcom thinks of them @Scotia

 

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Q: 

Is there any reason none of the SFIII characters made it in? Also, I doubt dlc plans are finalized, but does Laura have a shot?

 

A: 

The reason is Capcom feels that 3rd strike characters simply don’t sell at all. Capcom feels that they’ve never clicked with an audience, which is why you see even Udon not using them much in promotional art because Capcom has a specific mindset about them. Hell, it was already a nightmare to convince Capcom to use Urien, and Oro, who was supposed to be released a long time ago in V (he was one of the first DLC characters, but pushed him back because the original story in SFV got nuked halfway when finishing it up, which I can explain in better detail which also explains why 3rd strike characters aren’t on Capcoms mind at the moment)

 

Q: 

I KNEW there was something off about SFV story! Can you tell us about that?

 

A: 

Sure thing anon. So originally, the story was supposed to be that Necalli KILLS Bison, which is why Ryu was supposed to awaken the Power Of Nothingness to beat him at the very last chapter. But then they couldn’t get Oro in time, and a lot of the game was in beta for a long long time because Capcom wanted to rush the game for their events, so they decided to scrap the entire story, and make it the way you see today. If you really play the game story mode again, or watch it, pay careful attention to when Bison mentions Necalli. After that scene, the entire story got rewritten to the point that it’s unrecognizable from the original draft.

 

Q: 

Slightly related question. Is there any reason they chose not to give Bison his Story Mode costume for the battle against Ryu. It's pretty clearly supposed to be him battle damaged after Nash's final attack, but they never used it for some reason.

 

A: 

Actually yes. Here’s the real crazy shit anon. Remember how Necalli V trigger makes his hair go red? Originally, Bisons battle damaged outfit was due to Nash. Then Necalli devours Bisons soul, effectively killing him, but not taking away his psycho powers, since now Necalli has them. Ryu then kills Necalli at the final battle with The Power Of Nothingness. The plans fell through, but Capcom left the bits of the story in the final product. It was a complete shit show.

 

Q: 

Do you mean 3rd Strike specifically or III in general? Because I feel like characters like Dudley and Ibuki are insanely popular, even for 3S alone Makoto and Q have their niche.

 

A: 

3 in general. Capcom knows Ibuki has a fan base & urien was well received, but they rather not use them for the base roster at the moment because Capcom really wants to focus on “retiring” the old version for Luke & others in the story mode. Seriously, people are going to be PISSED about what happens to Ken.

 

 

Alex

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Q:

PLEASE TELL ME IF ALEX IS COMING ANON
I NEED TO KNOW

 

A:

I’m sorry, I’m getting back to everyone as quick as I can since it’s late at night here. But Alex is in story mode, and you run into him. He’s long since retired from fighting, but fights Luke to show him that he still has it and gives him advice on how to control his aggression. But yeah, Alex is long retired from the fighting scene. Says it’s not worth it

 

Source: https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/601025939/

 

@Daemos @CESTUS III @Darc_RequiemFOUND IT. It was posted by @BootyWarrioron June 3, around the time the roster was leaked. A bunch of bullshit, like I said.
Fuck 4chan, honestly. Too bad we don't have Luke's winquote against Ken yet, just to fully disprove all of it.

4 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

 

Would probably  help the name of who made the statement, tried with Nakayama but IF was him did'nt helped either

The problem is also that, as far as I remember, the first explicit declaration about "Necalli should've been the boss, eaten Bison and blah blah blah" was from... the supposed "leaker" who said that "he knew the developers" and that everyone would've been pissed about Ken because Ken was DIVORCED. And we know how accurate that turned out. 😏

Through all this last summer, everyone just kept parroting that BS, and even though the fact that Necalli should have been the boss during SFV inception was a common suspect in fandom (I suspect the same thing, but we have no proof), I don't recall anyone from the developers' side explicitly admitting that.

2 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

In Byron's case guess made hell of a career and then retired or made the jump into politics?

It could be everything. He could be dead, he could've gotten into politics... either way, he did some good service to the US, so they're honoring him. But, until Capcom explicitly discloses his fate, Byron Taylor in SF6 is a Schrōdinger's character, lol.

28 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

Wonder if Byron is dead (doing something eroic/important af), feels strange af US army would name a carrier after a still alive military officer (unless capcom is just being silly lol)

The U.S. Navy regularly named ships after alive persons. They stopped after WWII, but resumed the practice in 1975 with the USS Carl Vinson¹, commissioned when congressman Carl Vinson was still alive. So Byron Taylor could be still alive.

¹I know that just because the USS Carl Vinson gave her name to the manga Space Family Carlvinson, which featured a character that Capcom copied for Vampire Savior's Q-Bee. Lol.

31 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

 

Considering without pedestal 6'1/185cm Luke will have face just bit above stomach, i think max is around 7'3/220... like we may make a proper height FANG

 

Interestingly, the first bar is "height". The SECOND bar, still at 33, is... "SITTING height". I think that would influence your bulk as well.

13 minutes ago, N-Tactix said:

I vaguely recall seeing this surname right up in some character bios for minor SF/FF characters. Can anybody that has all those translations check for a character that has that name? 

The only vague connection I can think about now is the crime boss Boris Rodčenko from the Underground Arena in SF5... But he was a different character (MAYBE).

Incidentally, surnames ending in -enko are traditionally Ukrainian, not Russian... That'd be a bit controversial now.
Also, unless that dot in the P is purely for show, @Daemosis right. That's Papovič. Or, more correctly, Popovič: since Russian vowels are pronounced differently when they're not stressed, and the stress is on the second syllable (Popóvič), the first O becomes pronounced more like A... So it makes sense that they went with Papovič while transliterating the name into Latin characters. @PVL_93_RUcould confirm. The rare "Papovich" that pops here and there is mostly due to erroneous transliterations from Russian to English (also č -> ch, for typesetting reasons and because most people would not know how to read č anyway). However, since that makes the name more correctly pronounceable by English speakers, not all evil comes to harm.

59 minutes ago, Daemos said:

She was a weapon of mass destruction on legs. A being of pure chaos. Now she's addicted to social media.

I don't see any difference in meaning between the first two sentences and the last one. 🤔