Stage Select

Miðgarðsorm

Member
  • Posts

    272
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Miðgarðsorm

  1. 23 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

    Azam special throw is awesome

    And also IS Alexander the Grater's Tornado Toss (eng) / Tornado Slam (jap). Down to Azam's final pose when you land, just with the cool wind effect added. Here at 3'17'':

    Which, in turn, was based upon a throw from the live action version of Ikki Kajiwara's Jūdō Icchokusen, as we all remember from an old Youtube video that showcased some of the moves. Here at 2'50'':

    I'm investigating if its name was ハリケーン投げ Harikēn nage, "Hurricane Throw", as it seems the most likely candidate (I own the manga, but the throw was a live-adaptation original), but the only way to confirm my theory would be to circumvent the regional restrictions of the Japanese Amazon Prime via a VPN to actually watch the show. Too busy to do so atm.

  2. On 7/14/2023 at 4:32 PM, DarthEnderX said:

    There was some source once way back that described what everyone's projectile "feels" like, and the Tiger Shot was described as feeling freezing cold.

    It was Zangief's "projectiles analysis" in the SF2 Animated Movie fanbook, although its general tone was not very serious and it showed the characterisation of its time.

     

    Zangief-Ki.jpg

     

    18: Zangief's
    1: great projectiles analysis
    2: Watch the secrets of the projectiles I examined!

    3: New move that vanishes projectiles!
    4: Vanishing Flat!!

    5: Ryu's Hadōken
    6: A lump of natural energy. No worries about public damage.

    7: About the same of the standard body temperature.

    8: Its damage doesn't vanish immediately after hit, but it lasts in your body for a while.

    9: Air Slasher

    10: A whirlwind which cuts everything.

    11: If it hits, you hear music. I swear.

    12: Being a wind, the same of atmospheric temperature.

    13: Ken's Hadōken

    I don't know if it's because he trained less than Ryu, but it's smaller than his.

    14: Not much power, but it hurts like hell.

    15: Neither hot nor cold.

    16: The great stupid analysis of professor Zangief! ¹

    17: Can we really trust him?!

    19: Kikōken

    20: An improved version of the qìgōng² energy used to heal.
    21: It did hurt, but it healed my stiff shoulders.

    22: About the same temperature of a warm bath.

    23: Ryu's Fire Hadōken

    24: He adds his own energy to the natural one.

    25: If it hits, it feels like boiling water.

    26: Not enough to burn your clothes, but hot enough to hurt.

    27: Sonic Boom

    28: A wave attack produced by both arms going over the speed of sound!
    29: Colder than Russian winter.

    30: Feels like an impact with a wall.

    31: Yoga Fire

    32: I don't understand Yoga's secrets. Someone explain them to me!

    33: If it hits, it feels like you eat spicy curry.

    34: Seems the same temperature of boiling curry.

    35: Tiger Shot

    36: A materialisation of Sagat's evil heart.

    37: If it hits, it leaves like a fierce beast's bite. It's freezing cold, like Sagat's heart.³

    Yes, there was more in the same page about the game chronology and Ryu and Ken's friendship, but I didn't have the time and desire to translate it, too long.

    Anyway, at least there is a source for that claim. How much still reliable is all that regarding the present characterisation is up to debate, though...

     

    ¹ Although it was one of the first instances of Zangief being presented as a learned character, it wasn't treated seriously like nowadays.

    ² Remember that 気功 kikō is just the Japanese reading of the Chinese qìgōng, the same characters.

    ³ Of course Sagat is not like that anymore. Characterisation marches on!


  3. Kinu Nishimura's drawing for the Capcom/Tezuka collab in Takarazuka. LOL, I'd never thought about Princess Knight's Friebe for this, even though she was one of my favourite characters from Tezuka's works, her minor character status notwithstanding. Obviously she has in common with Mika just the hearts on her breast(plate)s, but still a nice pairing (pun shamelessly intended).

  4. 15 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said:

    I recall that @Miðgarðsormexplained that in the story thread.

    Something about all originating from a pun in Japanese about the name of the country, Turkey, the color Turquoise and that Hakan's hair kinda looks like the shell of a turtle? I may be misremembering.

    I think you may be looking for this.

     

    Hakan's hair colour was... just based on a wordplay. Basically, since turquoise etymologically comes from the French pierre turquoise, "Turkish stone", and in Japanese is even more immediately evident (トルコ Toruko = Turkey, トルコ石 toruko ishi = turquoise, literally "Turkish stone", again; トルコ人 torukojin = Turkish man) ... yes, they gave him turquoise hair... made of stone...

  5. 5 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

    No it would not.  

     

    "How can we make Akuma even lamer than we already have over the last 20 years?"

     

    "You know that thing we did with Oro's turtle in the last game?  Let's have him do that, but with a baby!"

    Not only that. I know, gameplay and story segregation and blah blah blah, but whoever fights a man with a baby on his back is an asshole. Imagine G doing a nice backbreaker to Akuma: "WHOOOPS...".

    You couldn't do that, come on.

  6. 9 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

    Yeah, explain it's relative to Edo period iirc, was quite proud about how he found a western friendly name that also have deep japanese meaning

    Was it 江戸主水 Edomondo? That is, 江戸 Edo, Tōkyō's old name, and 主水 mondo, the Chief of Public water (during the Ritsuryō system, so far before the Edo period, but who cares...)?

    Or something else?

  7. 3 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

    Now that you say it, just yesterday i was raising Master bond with Honda, at some point he actually explain the Edmond thing

     

    He say "Edmond" is his shikona to be popular also in the west while having also a japanese meaning as Edomondo, you came to my mind because i think to remember you exxplained that thing in Story thread long ago iirc 😄

    WTF? DID THEY ACTUALLY CANONISE THAT? O_O

    Did he also tell you what was the Japanese meaning of Edomondo?

  8. 1 hour ago, CESTUS III said:

    Thanks for the clarification, so essentially they added the source but the source does'nt say what they say? 🤣

    As if it were the first time, lol. I remember when everyone was saying (and they still say it...) that Honda's shikona was "Fujinoyama" because of Sodom's SFA2 ending, when it was actually Honda's opponent... But it was so crystal clear only in the Japanese ending, after all.

    1 hour ago, CESTUS III said:

    You just traslated that part or you have the whole page?

    You posted the whole page. I just summarised its content and directly translated only the Master's words. The second half is about Sagat.

  9. 1 hour ago, CESTUS III said:

    " Rose was once M. Bison's disciple. He taught Rose how to utilise Soul Power along with warning her of it's weaknesses.

    That's a conclusion they draw themselves. Nowhere All about SF Zero says that. Rose feels an ominous aura, runs out of her house and sees a passing limousine with Bison on board (who sees her and grins while the car goes away), then thinks about her master's words: "One day, you'll have to fight. Remember: Soul Power is your strongest weapon, but also a weakness you can't overcome..." But NOTHING in that original text says that Bison was that master.

  10. 12 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:
    21 hours ago, Shakunetsu said:

    I'm glad they are acknowledging this detail

     

    Western and international audience need to l known this. that he ain't like the live action movies and the recent wreck it ralph

     

    FyMTvOZXwAcsyu8?format=jpg&name=large

    To be fair, he does say that his pro-wrestling persona is a "heel".  So to the public in the SF world, he is a "bad guy".

    Also, they practically used Ralph's own costume to make Zangief's casual (I WANT THAT IN GAME CAPCOM), down to the same colour palette.

    However, I suppose he's a heel now. Couldn't have been back in SFIV with all those children being his fans, lol. I imagine he's "The Gief". After all, we saw him lose the mask in his intro.

  11. On 6/4/2023 at 7:30 PM, Dracu said:

    Also the Ultras are the craziest. There are many throws Abel uses that actually emulate judo pretty well. His regular throws, his air grab and the final hit of his rekkas come to mind. His command throw is kinda whack, but even that's still somewhat belivable.

    Manon's techniques also are grounded in actual jūdō. If you talk about REAL throws, the only real techniques are:

    - uchi mata, Abel's forward normal and Manon's back normal, although in Abel's case it resembles more an ō soto gari and was named Drop Throw in the English version; also Manon's finishing throw during her Pas de Deux SA (not its CA version);
    - tai otoshi, Abel's back normal (Pincer Throw in English), actually more similar to an ō guruma in execution;

    - ō uchi gari, Manon's forward normal;

    - ippon seoi nage, Abel's anti-air special Falling Sky;

    - uki waza, Abel's Finish Mid during Change of Direction.

    Everything else is "bullshit", whether you add ballet and swan feathers or try to stick to your traditional martial seriousness which apparently gives your moves more gravitas, even if you are a clone whose eyes go black when you're too excited and in both cases you jump higher than a 10 story building while rotating your opponent as if they are in a tornado, before catching them again and drive them to the ground. You can like whatever artistic license you want, but don't tell me one is "non-bullshit jūdō" or "believable" because they're absolutely the same level of bullshit from a realistic point of view.
    Abel's Finish Low is based on morote gari but good luck throwing your opponent with that and making him do a 450° flip backwards, so that's already superhuman. Manon's 1st and 2nd medals Manège doré is based on kouchi gari but even here you would never cause your opponent to do a backflip like that. It's particularly egregious if we consider that many of those throws assume to catch... the lapel of your opponent's jūdōgi, even when there's absolutely nothing to grab. So we can watch Abel grabbing... What, Blanka's chest hair?, and swinging him over his head, or Manon's 5 medals Manège doré when she grabs an inexistent lapel to choke her opponent while airborne, or again her final uchi mata during Pas de Deux.
    Also, answer to @Shakunetsuabout Thailand incoming... with the jaguar explanation.

×
  • Create New...
Stage Select