Mattatsu Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, KingTubb said: Yeah... Same here. But I'll never forget when I entered a tournament, set my buttons wrong, lost the first match cause my buttons were fucked, then I tried to fix them and somehow made them worse. Never again. Well, at the same time, you should be checking your buttons anyway, in case the player in front of you changed them. Wouldn’t have bothered but something about the default setup feels really weird for me... you know what it is, it’s that my ring finger isn’t doing anything. In MK, which is a 4 button fighter, at least my ring was on block. It feels weird only having four buttons crammed on the left side when you have more space the work with KingTubb 1 Quote
KingTubb Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hecatom said: Sorry, but i need to ask, didnt you button check? Or where you nervous for being a tournament match that you didnt notice? Bruh, it was a litany of failures. It was a MVCI tournament and button map is tied to L1/LB in that game in the character select. I was running a 6 button stick that didn't have an L1 button, so we had to back out and set them in the options menu. Then the guy I was with realized after button checks that he didn't like his layout, and he ALSO didn't have a L1 button, so we had to back all the way out to the main menu again. I think I fucked up my buttons when we went back into that menu, and I realized it as soon as we started the match, but I thought that I could, like, 'figure it out'. SO, as soon as the game ended I told him my buttons were fucked up still, he sorta laughed and then let out a big sigh. I felt so fucking bad that I didn't ask for a button check cause I didn't want to go all the way back out to the menu if they were messed up 🤣 Edit: Actually, I think the first game it was something minor like my tag button and stone button were switched, and I felt so dumb going to the menu again that I ended up fucking everything up lol Edited January 21, 2021 by KingTubb Hecatom and Mattatsu 1 1 Quote
KingTubb Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: Well, at the same time, you should be checking your buttons anyway, in case the player in front of you changed them. DOUBLE POST! Yeah, but default layout is one button press, and the chances of me fucking it up are a lot lower (see above story for how bad I can, in fact, fuck it up) Mattatsu 1 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, KingTubb said: Double post! I see what you're saying, and I used to put a lot of thought into my layouts. but I've come to realize, unless a layout is completely opposed to the way my brain processes information, default layouts end up feeling comfortable for me after one or two decent sessions. I totally agree with that. I usually go for default. But there are some cases like BB, BBTAG, and other 3 button games where i make a little change and left all those games with a little change to have a default layout for all of them, lol. KingTubb 1 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, KingTubb said: Bruh, it was a litany of failures. It was a MVCI tournament and button map is tied to L1/LB in that game in the character select. I was running a 6 button stick that didn't have an L1 button, so we had to back out and set them in the options menu. Then the guy I was with realized after button checks that he didn't like his layout, and he ALSO didn't have a L1 button, so we had to back all the way out to the main menu again. I think I fucked up my buttons when we went back into that menu, and I realized it as soon as we started the match, but I thought that I could, like, 'figure it out'. SO, as soon as the game ended I told him my buttons were fucked up still, he sorta laughed and then let out a big sigh. I felt so fucking bad that I didn't ask for a button check cause I didn't want to go all the way back out to the menu if they were messed up 🤣 Edit: Actually, I think the first game it was something minor like my tag button and stone button were switched, and I felt so dumb going to the menu again that I ended up fucking everything up lol Yeah, but, doesnt MVCI have a way to config the buttons mid match like other games so you can change them and check them on the button check phase most matches have before they start? Quote
KingTubb Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, Hecatom said: doesnt MVCI have a way to config the buttons mid match like other games so you can change them and check them on the button check phase most matches have before they start? I ain’t gonna check, but I’m like 99% sure it doesn’t. I remember both of us being dumbfounded that it didn’t Hecatom 1 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, KingTubb said: I ain’t gonna check, but I’m like 99% sure it doesn’t. I remember both of us being dumbfounded that it didn’t Wow, I know that some people love the game, and that is fine. But is like every time i learn something new about it, it amazes me some more on why the game was such a failure 🤣 Nothing screams budget game like not having standard functionalities implemented on it. I think that the only game i know that was like that was MK9, and that game was because NRS loves making everything backwards for some reason. Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 22, 2021 Author Posted January 22, 2021 19 hours ago, Mattatsu said: For you guys that have six or eight button sticks, what’s your time button layout? just the default? AB DC I’m wondering how the following would be: ABC D I go Top row: A B C D Bottom row: (AB) (CD) with the last two unmapped The buttons are fairly responsive and I don't really use the macros I have programmed but it's nice to have them I could probably do either tomorrow or Saturday by I think Hecatom has to work Saturday but of he wants in and wants to let us know what's better we can decide. But if he's not playing then we can go for Saturday if you like Quote
Hecatom Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, DoctaMario said: I go Top row: A B C D Bottom row: (AB) (CD) with the last two unmapped The buttons are fairly responsive and I don't really use the macros I have programmed but it's nice to have them I could probably do either tomorrow or Saturday by I think Hecatom has to work Saturday but of he wants in and wants to let us know what's better we can decide. But if he's not playing then we can go for Saturday if you like Sadly, as it is now, i have a shift that forces me to wrok on sundays and saturdays, with my free days being on wednesday and tuesdays 😢 Also, i am out of my shift at 7 PM PDT, which is at 9 pm on my end, but i can spend from that time onwards playing, every day so i am always open to play. The problem would be if that is too late for some. DoctaMario 1 Quote
Mattatsu Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Hecatom said: Sadly, as it is now, i have a shift that forces me to wrok on sundays and saturdays, with my free days being on wednesday and tuesdays 😢 Also, i am out of my shift at 7 PM PDT, which is at 9 pm on my end, but i can spend from that time onwards playing, every day so i am always open to play. The problem would be if that is too late for some. 7pm pdt is 10pm for me, which yeah is too late during the week, but it’s fine for me on Fridays or Saturdays. I’m not sure about tomorrow though - had some stuff come up, but I’ll let you guys know Hecatom and DoctaMario 2 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 22, 2021 Author Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mattatsu said: 7pm pdt is 10pm for me, which yeah is too late during the week, but it’s fine for me on Fridays or Saturdays. I’m not sure about tomorrow though - had some stuff come up, but I’ll let you guys know Lemme know, I think I could do Saturday if you still want to play. And Hecatom, let me know a few days in advance when you want to play and I'll try to make it happen. Stuffs been all wacky since we got back from holidays. I'm on US Central Time which I think is the same as what you're on and that hour would probably work for me. Edited January 22, 2021 by DoctaMario Mattatsu and Hecatom 2 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, DoctaMario said: Lemme know, I think I could do Saturday if you still want to play. And Hecatom, let me know a few days in advance when you want to play and I'll try to make it happen. Stuffs been all wacky since we got back from holidays. I'm on US Central Time which I think is the same as what you're on and that hour would probably work for me. If you mean CST, then yeah we are at the same time window. Ok, if you want we can try saturday, to give you time to organize XD I can tomorrow as well, but it would be a bit later than 9PM since i am watching Wandavision with my younger siblings at my sister's house 😅 Quote
KingTubb Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 I have this pit in my stomach that y'all are going to lounge up tonight and only tonight this weekend. The PS4 is the only DVD player in the how that can read my wife's copy of "Ann of Green Gables" and she's told me all week she wants to watch it on Friday. It wouldn't hurt so bad if Ann of Green Gables didn't suck so much. Sorry, Frames, I know it's a Canadian national treasure or whatever, but that show sucks eggs. Hecatom and DoctaMario 1 1 Quote
Mattatsu Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Cause it’s Canadian, I have to like it? Yeah it sucks. Throw Celine Dion and Drake in that pile too. I may play tonight (I’m not sure, had some bad news and I may just take it easy and lab if anything). Tomorrow is more likely for me. KingTubb and Hecatom 2 Quote
KingTubb Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: Cause it’s Canadian, I have to like it? Yeah it sucks. Throw Celine Dion and Drake in that pile too. I may play tonight (I’m not sure, had some bad news and I may just take it easy and lab if anything). Lol, I didn't think you actually liked it. People shit on the US all the time, so I gotta take pot shots on y'all whenever I can. Hope everything well and good, homie. Take care of you and yours Edited January 22, 2021 by KingTubb Mattatsu 1 Quote
Mattatsu Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) So, how the hell you do you get SSMs to connect? is it only likely to hit as a punish after some really, really unsafe moves (like -30)? Edited January 22, 2021 by Mattatsu Quote
Mattatsu Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 I should share this link, lol. Great info for every character (though I don’t think it’s completely up to date), but probably not too far off. this link is for Haohmaru, but there are links for all characters at the bottom of the page https://wiki.gbl.gg/w/Samurai_Shodown/Haohmaru Hecatom and KingTubb 2 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Mattatsu said: So, how the hell you do you get SSMs to connect? is it only likely to hit as a punish after some really, really unsafe moves (like -30)? Depends on the character, but is susually hard reads and punishers, at least for the chars i play. Depending on the Supers, they have a different utility than other games like SF. For example, Iroha WFT can be comboed from stuff like 4K into WFT, but her SSM is a grab with a big startup and a big recovery, so you have to commit to do it. I guess they have those weird properties since they are not tied to a meter and well, to keep with the whole Bushido theme the game has, lol. Mattatsu and DoctaMario 2 Quote
Mattatsu Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Yeah, Haohmaru can confirm into WFT from a few buttons, which is nice. He seems like he can hit SSM after a successful deflect (you could at launch but need to lab to see if it still works), or to punish blocked DPs or else something stupidly unsafe. I can’t imagine hitting that in neutral, and you can’t combo into it... you can recoil cancel into it, but it’s not like it’s invulnerable or anything, so you’ll likely get stuffed if they do press a button. Edited January 22, 2021 by Mattatsu Quote
Hecatom Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: Yeah, Haohmaru can confirm into WFT from a few buttons, which is nice. He seems like he can hit SSM after a successful deflect (you could at launch but need to lab to see if it still works), or to punish blocked DPs or else something stupidly unsafe. I can’t imagine hitting that in neutral, and you can’t combo into it... you can recoil cancel into it, but it’s not like it’s invulnerable or anything, so you’ll likely get stuffed if they do press a button. Most characters can land the SSM after a deflect, but keep in mind that they can always do a Rage Explossion to burst out from the damage in that scenario. Mattatsu and DoctaMario 1 1 Quote
Mattatsu Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hecatom said: Most characters can land the SSM after a deflect, but keep in mind that they can always do a Rage Explossion to burst out from the damage in that scenario. Makes sense... I wouldn’t have thought of that though, so thanks! Edited January 22, 2021 by Mattatsu Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 So tomorrow night, 8pm CST on PSN sound good to everyone? @Mattatsu @KingTubb @Hecatomif you can make it at some point? KingTubb, Mattatsu and Hecatom 3 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, DoctaMario said: So tomorrow night, 8pm CST on PSN sound good to everyone? @Mattatsu @KingTubb @Hecatomif you can make it at some point? I can make it after 9pm CST, hopefully you will still have the lobby XD Today i am free to do anything right now, so if anyone wants, toss me a message on PSN Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 @BornWinner @Mattatsu @Hecatom I got a room up and sent you all invites Hecatom 1 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, DoctaMario said: @BornWinner @Mattatsu @Hecatom I got a room up and sent you all invites I got kicked from the room, because it was dismantled. Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hecatom said: I got kicked from the room, because it was dismantled. Yeah I think it glitched out Hecatom 1 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, Mattatsu said: That was ugly lol Is what i told you before. The game cant handle desynchs for shit 😂 Mattatsu 1 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) @BornWinnerI am so fucking salty right now 😂 My Brain: "Don't do puff ball, don't do puff ball, he's got an Issen on deck!" My fingers: "PUFF BALL ALL DAAAAMN DAAAYYYY!" Edited January 23, 2021 by DoctaMario BornWinner and Mattatsu 2 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, Mattatsu said: I guess these desyncs are common? Kind off, once in a while you will get one. That is the real problem of the netcode. DoctaMario and Mattatsu 1 1 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mattatsu said: I guess these desyncs are common? I dunno, the netcode used to be better than this in my experience. Kind of a bummer Mattatsu 1 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Mattatsu said: I only have time for one more match. Yeah same here. This was fun though guys, we should do this often. I'm pretty casual with this version of SamSho but if we were playing that would definitely kick me in the ass to put more time into it. Overall the connections are decent though. Mattatsu, BornWinner and Hecatom 3 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Outside the random desynch, the connections seem fine so far, which is great. Too bad you can only play one more match, since i am free today 😂😅 Mattatsu 1 Quote
BornWinner Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 @HecatomShiki can’t combo into 5H from a throw mid screen . The normals you should be using is 5B, 66B, or 2C. Hecatom 1 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, BornWinner said: @HecatomShiki can’t combo into 5H from a throw mid screen . The normals you should be using is 5B, 66B, or 2C. Yeah, it has been a while since i played samsho, i am doing everything backwards, reacting and pressing the wrong buttons 😂 Mattatsu 1 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hecatom said: Yeah, it has been a while since i played samsho, i am doing everything backwards, reacting and pressing the wrong buttons 😂 I'll hang around and play a few more Nice read at the end in the Haoh mirror @Mattatsu! Edited January 23, 2021 by DoctaMario Mattatsu 1 Quote
Mattatsu Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 GGs guys! Sorry i had to dip like that mid-match. I was hoping could get ome more match in, especially when i saw I was about to fight hecatom for the first time but then my wife started screaming at me to bathe our cat lol. anyways, i really do love this game. The connections were fine other than the odd desyncs. I’m definitely down for playing tomorrow night (and i should have more time tomorrow as well) DoctaMario and BornWinner 2 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Lol, every time i got grabbed i was trying to do the same 😂 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, BornWinner said: God do I hate Shizumaru Who would you say your main is? Kyoshiro? Quote
BornWinner Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, DoctaMario said: Who would you say your main is? Kyoshiro? 3 minutes ago, DoctaMario said: Who would you say your main is? Kyoshiro? Definitely Shiki, Kyo’s definitely my secondary though. DoctaMario 1 Quote
Hecatom Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 Well, is clear that i am super free against Basara 👌👌 Mattatsu 1 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hecatom said: Well, is clear that i am super free against Basara 👌👌 Not that last time you weren't! 🥴 I don't think I've ever foight competent shiki or Iroha players before tonight tbh BornWinner 1 Quote
DoctaMario Posted January 23, 2021 Author Posted January 23, 2021 Yeah same for me. @Hecatomleta do one more then I'm out. GG's guys! Quote
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