Yiceman

This is lobby system is mad awkward

I know i'm in bronze and i have no clue how to play her  but Laura is a fun character.

Alright let me know which lobby we want then.

Yeah I'm free for the next hour or two. Just let me know what I need to do to join a game with someone.

@Mattatsu Want to try some games in this beta? I have no idea how to play this, but might as well try it out

Really fun fact : Laura's ass 
 

That's fair, I do still think it has to be grey damage no matter how much though, or every end of match will just be a staring contest. How much grey damage do v-reversals do? I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same amount.
 
Personally I think they didn't go too big with the v-break damage because they didn't want to irritate casuals. I can already picture some DSP types raging about the mechanic because they keep losing 30% when their unsafe unga bunga offense gets read. It's a defensive option to save good players from degenerate shit that isn't quite strong enough to shut down casual play.

I think the main purpose of the break is to give yourself an option to hit an opponent in a situation you otherwise couldn't. If you don't need to use the break and can land a real punish, that's ideal. But if they canceled a normal you shifted into a fireball or something, you'd just get hit at the end of the shift. So the break, fully invincible, will save you from that.
 
Or say you're at midscreen with no life vs Poison and she does her CA to chip you. You can shift it, but maybe not get in close in time to punish. The break might hit, and grey damage + knockdown is better than nothing. Using the break doesn't use additional resources, so it's entirely optional and situational to use it.
 
Plus if it caused real damage that would essentially cease all offense in low-life situations, they probably don't want that.

I wouldn't mind trying to play some people here in the beta, but I have literally never played a GG, never really watched any matches, and didn't do a whole lot of research into the game mechanics. Trying to figure out some stuff in training mode now.
 
also is this guy's name really "sol badguy" are we just okay with that or...

I wouldn't mind trying to play some people here in the beta, but I have literally never played a GG, never really watched any matches, and didn't do a whole lot of research into the game mechanics. Trying to figure out some stuff in training mode now.
 
also is this guy's name really "sol badguy" are we just okay with that or...

That's fair, I do still think it has to be grey damage no matter how much though, or every end of match will just be a staring contest. How much grey damage do v-reversals do? I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same amount.
 
Personally I think they didn't go too big with the v-break damage because they didn't want to irritate casuals. I can already picture some DSP types raging about the mechanic because they keep losing 30% when their unsafe unga bunga offense gets read. It's a defensive option to save good players from degenerate shit that isn't quite strong enough to shut down casual play.

I agree, besides it's an invul defensive mechanic, real damage wouldn't really be the point lmao.
 
I think something between 120-150 Grey would be significant enough for people to not "just do it".

That's fair, I do still think it has to be grey damage no matter how much though, or every end of match will just be a staring contest. How much grey damage do v-reversals do? I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same amount.
 
Personally I think they didn't go too big with the v-break damage because they didn't want to irritate casuals. I can already picture some DSP types raging about the mechanic because they keep losing 30% when their unsafe unga bunga offense gets read. It's a defensive option to save good players from degenerate shit that isn't quite strong enough to shut down casual play.

I think the main purpose of the break is to give yourself an option to hit an opponent in a situation you otherwise couldn't. If you don't need to use the break and can land a real punish, that's ideal. But if they canceled a normal you shifted into a fireball or something, you'd just get hit at the end of the shift. So the break, fully invincible, will save you from that.
 
Or say you're at midscreen with no life vs Poison and she does her CA to chip you. You can shift it, but maybe not get in close in time to punish. The break might hit, and grey damage + knockdown is better than nothing. Using the break doesn't use additional resources, so it's entirely optional and situational to use it.
 
Plus if it caused real damage that would essentially cease all offense in low-life situations, they probably don't want that.

v-shift breaks does gray damage

wait... Are all you PC boys that are always saying that it's so much better and that consoles are for "plebs" or whatever you zoomers say just actually covering up? 

Strive definitely looks cool, but I'm a filthy casual who's booty cheeks at easy games like SFV. Part of me feels like trying to play a GG game might be an exercise in painful futility. Worth trying the beta at least I suppose.

Heca 

 
vs MisterBee

Strive definitely looks cool, but I'm a filthy casual who's booty cheeks at easy games like SFV. Part of me feels like trying to play a GG game might be an exercise in painful futility. Worth trying the beta at least I suppose.

What can i say, i do like Juri but i also like Poison, especially with this outfit. So i made this. 
 
You can get some sweet light effects using specific HDRI renders
 

I've seen a few people getting overly dramatic about the V-shift, declaring some moves or characters "dead" now because of it. It's like they forget it uses a full V bar to activate. Sure they get half of that back if they guess right on the shift, but if that happens often enough to matter, it sounds like your offense is just predictable. People are not going to be using it on every single mix-up you do. And I think the best way to "bait" the shift is to just do nothing sometimes. Let them blow their meter and take a step forward.
 
I think a lot of the time people will save it in certain match-ups to withstand certain v-triggers, like G, Urien or Akuma. It's exactly the tool people have been asking for to deal with these crazy set-play triggers without nerfing those characters into the ground.
 

I've seen a few people getting overly dramatic about the V-shift, declaring some moves or characters "dead" now because of it. It's like they forget it uses a full V bar to activate. Sure they get half of that back if they guess right on the shift, but if that happens often enough to matter, it sounds like your offense is just predictable. People are not going to be using it on every single mix-up you do. And I think the best way to "bait" the shift is to just do nothing sometimes. Let them blow their meter and take a step forward.
 
I think a lot of the time people will save it in certain match-ups to withstand certain v-triggers, like G, Urien or Akuma. It's exactly the tool people have been asking for to deal with these crazy set-play triggers without nerfing those characters into the ground.
 

Like Volt said, activating V-shift uses an entire bar. If you shift through a projectile or physical attack, it goes into slow-mo and you get refunded half a bar. Throws don't refund. So that's why I was saying the best way to bait a V-shift might be to look like you're going for a set-up or meaty and then do nothing. Boom, your opponent just blew a V bar for a glorified backdash. If you got super big brain you can forward dash right away and apply pressure during the V-shift recovery.

It hurts Ayyygis mid-screen. On the corner? You're still with Urine and a mirror sandwiching you. And you just burned a bar that you could've V-Reversaled with. 🤣
 
Edit: It'll also be one crazy learning experience for people shifting right into an active mirror because there's no hitbox to interact with the phantom hurtbox before Aegis is active. 🤣

I've seen a few people getting overly dramatic about the V-shift, declaring some moves or characters "dead" now because of it. It's like they forget it uses a full V bar to activate. Sure they get half of that back if they guess right on the shift, but if that happens often enough to matter, it sounds like your offense is just predictable. People are not going to be using it on every single mix-up you do. And I think the best way to "bait" the shift is to just do nothing sometimes. Let them blow their meter and take a step forward.
 
I think a lot of the time people will save it in certain match-ups to withstand certain v-triggers, like G, Urien or Akuma. It's exactly the tool people have been asking for to deal with these crazy set-play triggers without nerfing those characters into the ground.