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System Cables

USB/OG Xbox Cable

 

USB cables [typically] follow a standard for wire coloring. The ground is always Black, D- is White, D+ is Green and Voltage is Red, For USB you should insert the wire into the Ethernet plug like so. According to this pinout diagram. Original Xbox is done the same way it is a USB with a funny end. On Xbox there is a Yellow cable that is not needed and can be clipped.

Color  Purpose    RJ45 Pin
Black  Ground       1          
White  Data -       5
Green  Data +       6
Red    VCC          8

 

(OP) for the rest of the guide I am leaving out any wire colors, spoiled text will get into detail why rtdzign did this. 

I will go into detail about how to figure out the pins on a PS2 cable and using this methodology you can apply this to any system cable. For the PS2 cord we will need to take an extension cord and cut off the female end and strip about half an inch of the large insulation and expose maybe 2 mm of the small wires. Looking at the inside of the controller connector we have the following pins.

From this point on I am leaving out the Photobucket links, use https://pinouts.ru/ if you need to refence the Plugs pinout.

PS1/PS2 Cable

PSX Pin    Purpose    RJ45 Pin    Cthulhu Column
4          Ground       1          G
7          CLK          2          A
2          CMD          3          B
1          DATA         4          C
6          ATT          5          D
                        6          E
9          ACK          7          F
5          VCC          8          V

 

Gamecube

Gamecube pin    Purpose    RJ45 Pin
3               Ground      1
2               Data        7
1               VCC         8

 

NES

Purpose -Pin # - Cthulhu Column
GND       1      G
CLK       2      A
LATCH     3      F
DATA      4      C
VCC       7      V

 

SNES

SNES Pin - MC Cthulhu Column
1          G
4          C
5          F
6          A
7          V

TurboGrafx-16/PC-Engine
The American TurboGrafx-16 uses has a female Din 8 port on the system while the Turbo Duo and all the Japanese systems use a Mini Din 8. I recommend that you buy a number of 6 ft monoprice Mini Din 8 cables. For an TG-16 you can buy a male Din 8 connector and solder that to an ethernet cable. 

DIN Pin # - Cthulhu Column 
1           V 
2           A 
3           B 
4           C 
5           F 
6           E 
7           D 
8           G 

 

Saturn

Pin - Cthulhu Column
1      V
2      B
3      A
4      D
5      E
7      F
8      C
9      G

 

3DO
3do will currently only work as the only controller, plugged directly into the system; trying to daisy chain off of it or use it through a daisy chain isn’t going to work.
 

Dsub Pin - Cthulhu column
1           G
2           V
6           F
7           A
9           C

Dreamcast: (no VMU support)  MC Cthulhu only works with Arcade stick compatible games (just like the Agetec) 

Pinout:
DC Pin - Cthulhu column
1      - F              
2      - V              
3      - G              
4      - B              
5      - C              

 

 

Forward: So yes I straight up stole a guide that I didn't write. I will leave a link here to the original thread

https://forums.shoryuken.com/t/rj-45-multi-console-cthulhu-arcade-stick-tutorial-ver-2/97185
This guide also applies to the PS360 Plus,  the Brooks Retro Board and various other boards that use RJ45 system cables.

Hopefully if SRK ever goes down again we have an archive of this valuable guide 

Quote from  rtdzign

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I turned this into a pdf. Please download this tutorial here. Copy it, share with your friends, Host it on your website. IDGAF.

PDF version of this tutorial
https://mega.nz/file/FAt2iYSS#gnScCNKxgOSP-subKhSRLDjkmXEa25aZwZfDSyp9QdY

 

(Note from OP), This first post is all about installing RJ45 cables to the MC Cthulhu and installing a RJ45 jack to your stick.

Skip to the second post to see the cable pinouts 

Intro

This post is a rewrite of Acceptable Risk?s RJ-45 Tutorial. This was posted to include new info such as recent console support added because the pinouts are spread out in the Cthulhu thread. Also I instead uses a Pass through over a keystone punch down type jack.

The MC Cthulhu is a purpose built PCB for hooking up with arcade joystick components. To work with different consoles, you only need to solder wires from a controller extension cable to the appropriate spots. If you look at the top op the pcb there are 3 rows of solder points with columns labled “GABCDEFV”. Each extension cable wire must be soldered on to the appropriate column. When plugged in, the MC Cthulhu PCB can autodectect what system it is plugged into and then make your joystick work for that supported system. Be sure to download the latest firmware to ensure that all of the console cables you make will be compatible.
 

Originally the MC Cthulhu was able to support 5 consoles using 3 cables, therefore only 3 rows, but now it has grown to include many systems. Because there are 8 columns for system cables a Ethernet jack was a natural fit. The connecter used is typically an RJ-45. If you want to do a dual mod with Xbox 360 pad then you should check out this tutorial. https://forums.shoryuken.com/t/rj-45-mc-cthulhu-imp-xbox-360-dual-mod-tutorial-diagram/92427

Kitty info Update: If you dual modded your stick with a Kitty board, they come preinstalled with a RJ-45 jack. If you connect that to a RJ-45 pass through, then you can use the same cable pinouts for making your own custom cable.

Supplies List:
 

(OP) Original Tutorial Parts 1 and 2, relevant for the MC Cthulhu, but not for system cable making. 

 

SEGA

 

 

Virtua Stick HSS-0130 (Saturn) 

Sega Virtua Stick HSS-0136  (Saturn/PS2) 

Sega Virtua Stick HSS-0104 (Saturn) 

 

Virtua Stick High Grade (PS3)

Agetec SEGA Dreamcast Arcade Stick  (Dreamcast)

 

 

SNK

 

 

Neo Geo AES Stick (Neo Geo/Neo Geo CD)

 

 

 

American/ European Style Sticks

Sticks in this category are meant to be used with American style parts (Suzo/Happ).

 

 

X-Arcade Joysticks (PC/Multi)

 

 

Pelican “Real Arcade” Stick (PS2/GameCube/Xbox) 

MAS Systems Stick (Multi) 

Mortal Kombat Tournament Edition Arcade Stick  (PS3, Xbox 360)

 

NubyTech Official Street Fighter Anniversary Edition Arcade Stick (PS2, Xbox)

 

Hori 
 

 

 Real Arcade Pro  (PS2)

 

 

 Real Arcade Pro 2 (PS2) 

 

 

Fighting Stick 3 (PS3) / Fighting Stick EX2 (Xbox 360)

 

Fighting Stick Wii (Wii)

 

Real Arcade Pro EX (Xbox 360)

 

Real Arcade Pro 3  (PS3)

 

Wireless Fighting Stick 3 (PS3) / Wireless Fighting Stick EX (Xbox 360)

 

Fighting Stick V3 (PS3) / Fighting Stick VX (Xbox 360)

 

Real Arcade Pro.V3 SA (PS3) / Real Arcade Pro.VX SA (Xbox 360)

 

Real Arcade Pro V4 (PS3/PS4)

 

Real Arcade Pro Hayabusa (XBO)

 

Real Arcade PRO V3 VLX (PS3)

 

Real Arcade PRO Premium VLX (PS3/PS4)

 

Hori Real Arcade Pro N (PS3/PS4)

Hori Fighting Edge (PS4)

 

There are too many joysticks to list them all -- these are just some of the more important/historically relevant ones.

 

 

Mad Catz

 

 

NOTE: Issues with early Mad Catz Sticks:

Xbox 360 version: Dual-modding with your TE with a Board for Dual modding, when you open up your stick, printed on the board should be its Revision Version printed on the board. If you have Rev A, that is the problem board. If you have Rev B you will be fine. Rev A = bad, Rev B = okay. I was also under the impression that Rev B boards are more reliable but at this point in time you are better off replacing the PCB. 

PS3 Version: Because of  the proprietary USB protocol encoding (UHCI) the PS3 versions of the original SE, Round 1 and Round 2 TE Mad Catz sticks, These early PS3 versions has issues operating on PCs with OLDER Non-Intel USB controllers chipsets (USB 1.1 and USB 2.0). The PS3 versions of the TE Round 1 and Round 2 are completely incompatible with USB 3.0 and onwards. Your best bet is to replace the PCB with something more Universally compatible. There no modern USB PCIe board that allows you to use theses sticks, so don't ask us to find you a PCIe expansion board for you. Mod your stick instead.

 

 

Street Fighter IV SE (PS3, Xbox 360)

 

 

Tournament Edition "Round 1" (PS3, Xbox 360)

 

 

Tournament Edition Round 2 (PS3, Xbox 360)

 

 

Tournament Edition S  (PS3, Xbox 360)

 

 

TE 2 (Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS3/PS4) 

 

 

Street Fighter X Tekken Fight Stick Pro (PS3/Xbox 360)

 

 

Versus Series (PS3/Xbox 360)

 

Before I start with the cool part of this guide, we will first cover three more important objectives.
And what you need to consider above all else.

• Needs
• Wants 
• Budget

 

Needs: This covers what you absolutely have to have, strip down and basic. With any purchase this is what you should think of first. When it comes to Video Game controls this is usually covered by the Default game pad, only a few games require specialized controls or controls modified for those who have special needs. Example a One handed controller for a gamer who only have one useable arm.
I am assuming most people reading this guide now are hardcore fighter or arcade game fans who the regular d-pad is not cutting it for you (for one reason or another).

 

Wants: This is what you have your heart set for. For most people this is your end results.

 

Budget: This is how much money you have to spend. Budget is the more realistic and sobering part of the purchase process. Typically a stick will run you 60 to 250 dollars U.S and up. retail this figure will change with what the normal market price is in your region of the world. Don't ask me personally where to buy sticks in your home country, I wouldn't know from my location in the US.
Any stick you find** less than $50** is not worth your money and breaks easy.

 

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General rule of thumb on these things: when in doubt, pass. I’d rather pay the few extra dollars and get one that I KNOW works than one that may or may not. My peace of mind is worth a few extra dollars.

 

Keep in mind if you are broke (Budget), and the default game pad works fine enough for you (Need) that these 2 will and should over ride your Wants.

 

Now I am also going to cover other features of each stick/ controller here. These factors are also important to cover but goes secondary to the above. I be using this on almost every stick I list here.

• Quality
• Reliability
• Ease of Modification
• Purpose or special use

 

Difficulty Scale for Modding
From a scale of 1 to 5. This will factor in installing Buttons, Joysticks and replacement panels, and to a lesser extend PCB replacement.

This will not factor actual Dual-mods, replacement art or any painting.

1. Easy: Standard parts drops right into place, reasonable access to all parts.
2. Medium Easy: Still uses standard parts, access can be difficult/ time consuming
3. Moderate Difficulty: Requires minor case modding or appropriate mount plates
4. Medium hard: Requires some physical tool use to fit parts into place.
5. Hard: Requires Heavy modding using tools to cut, grind or drill to fit replacement parts.

 

How to Win at eBay.

Keep in mind eBay is not an online store. eBay is a listing, and auction service, you are buying from that individual seller not eBay. And Every Seller is different.

 

For Experienced sellers who sold hundreds if not thousands, Look for sellers with a Feedback score of 99.5% rating or better. Huge time sellers with a 95% or lower are to be avoided like the plague. Pay attention to the text in the negative feedbacks, check to see if the negative feedbacks buyers actually have an issue or they are just jerks.

For people with a hundred sales or less, if they do not have a 100% rating, avoid them.
 

When Bidding:

• Never, ever bid early. You only drive the price up higher.
• Wait till the last possible minute (or less).
• Also decide in advance the maximum you want to bid, unless you GOTTA HAVE IT do not get in a bidding war.

Also there is no such thing as a “BEGINNER STICK” so do not ask. There are no Training Wheels in the FGC. 

The “What Stick/Controller Should I Buy?” Thread

 

Click here to jump to the stick index / reviews 

 

Warning: This thread is heavily opinionated as are the nature of any product review

 

As well all have contrasting views on what is good/acceptable, as rule from the moderators, we shall not devolve into a VERSUS thread.

Personal opinions are fine, trying to argue that your favorite stick is better will not be tolerated. Do not confuse opinion with fact and vise versa.

Your Results/Mileage will vary. And don’t ask for us to make a choice for you, I am not holding anyone’s hand.

When it comes to my own reviews, I will not go through and point out what is my own opinions from what is fact (as my prerogative), and I encourage everyone to do your own fact finding research before you make a final conclusion for yourself. That is what google is for, finding your own research and making your own decisions.

Don't ask about sales, promo codes, or deals for any products. As the time of writing, we don't have any known industry insiders on the forum.

Keep in mind I am purposely leaving out many limited edition and/or collectors sticks, as it goes outside the intentions of the guide. Collectors are going to collect.

And I also like to keep custom sticks off the thread entirely, Custom sticks are outside of the scope of this guide and is considered off topic. Want a custom stick, make your own or hire someone to do it for you. I am going to completely ignore All-button "sticks", Keyboard-"sticks", Hitboxes and the like. If you want to review them, then make your own. 

And no this is not a carbon copy of the guide from Tech Talk, as that guide is out of date and I am leaving a lot of old stuff there. 

Last but not least I ask readers to go outside of this thread and do your research. Read reviews here on MEGASHOCK and reviews on online stores and in magazines. Weigh the Pros and Cons before deciding which stick to get. And please don't make new threads on what stick you should buy, read the thread first. Don't see what you are looking for ask. 

So I was thinking should I start rewriting and porting over any guides from SRK TT or not. 
Not like anything is property of SRK there, its all community developed stuff. 

And people wonder why I am sticking mostly to PC/Switch for the next gen. 
I might get PS5, but it be a long ways off. 

8 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Sony's censorship and skipping the Playstation platform.

Oh that shit, yes it's dumb. 

EX2 was a bitch and a half to mod, and I wouldn't even bother. 
V3 is a little better, but that joystick isn't easy to swap. 

The Injustice stick was nice to mod, will take Sanwa parts just fine, anything else requires the Dremel. 

9 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

The smaller devs? They didn't even want to go up to PS4. 

I don't know the Switch has a flood of (mostly terrible) indie titles (and some gems too). 

Everyone wants to Bash Bethesda for glitches, but most Elder Scroll glitches that isn't Daggerfall would just result in a broken quest or missing, or duplicated item.  
Oblivion, Morrowind or Skyrim don't crash usually unless you are screwing with mods or do something dumb with the command console. 
Never had a issue with Fallout 3 or 4. New Vegas is a shit hole of bugs, and the only Fallout Beth didn't make after their acquisition, and Obsidian should stay far far away from Fallout entirely.  MS stepping in would only fuck everything up, so don't bother brining it up. 
Fallout 76 is the outlier for bugginess. Oh there was the one bug on the PS3 version of Skyrim but it was quickly patched. 

Ubisoft on the other hand has glitches that just ether break the game or are hilarious.
EA made a game that would brick your PlayStation 4. 
Both EA and Ubisoft has patches ether the same size or bigger than their games. 

I am a Sith Lord, of course I am a Heretic.

But just to be clear the Imperium of Man would probably see both Sith and Jedi has Heretics to be slaughtered with their heretical religion made by heretical xeno and mutant scum .

14 minutes ago, beesuit said:

Das not kawaii

I said nothing about Kawaii. I said thot. 
Your level of perversion makes Slaanesh blush 

@beesuit is this Thot enough for you?

It's a two part-er Starts with https://youtu.be/X6-xf19Wr4s And then it goes to another site that not safe for work (dude created a parody of a porn site to sell the joke)
(From the Youtube video description) 
Follow the Chaos Gods: https://peepoohub.weebly.com/ Song Starts at ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

 

5 hours ago, misterBee said:

At that point it won't matter too much if you want to go FPGA or emulator for accuracy.

To be honest, it depends how well the code is written for ether one 
I like the MiSTer as its one machine going like a dozen or so consoles. 
Yeah I could just install RetroArch on my PC and call it a day, but in the end I get more out of FPGA for me.
Now only if they can do Tetris The Grand Master and Tetris the Absolute The Grand Master 2
I found the only emulator that does Tetris right at the moment is a modified MAME built for Shumps, Shump Mame 4. 

1 hour ago, AriesWarlock said:

Free Sonic 2 Steam download

Nice, tip. The Steam site didn't want to work, but my App worked fine. 
 

Yeah they are Ewks Bawks Pee Essee Phiwe YUGE. 

Let me tell you what I think are the issues with SRK and Evo.

 

1. The fucking higher end leadership have no fucking clue what they are doing 

2. They didn't fire Joey Cuellar outright. They just "remove" him from the event that didn't actually take place.

3. There always been a disconnect between the front page and the forums, they felt like separate entiries, and was treated like it by higher ups.

4. They like to place blame on the forum members. 

5. They have zero interest in having a forum but decided to keep it when offers was made to buy the forums off them.

6. Fucking Preppy. What a abusive shit head.

7. Never making attempts to bring in new blood. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, Maxx said:

Oh fuck I need a damn image bucket account again to upload pictures? 

No, fuck image bucket. 

Use imgur.

Facts, the truth has been spoken 

https://indivisiblegame.com/official-505-games-statement-regarding-lab-zero-games/

 

Looks like Zero Labs is no more. 

How Remakes should be done