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https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/01/26/cowboy-bebop-creator-shinichiro-watanabe-says-he-was-only-able-to-stomach-one-scene-of-netflixs-live-action-adaptation/

‘Cowboy Bebop’ Creator Shinichirō Watanabe Says He Was Only Able To Stomach One Scene Of Netflix’s Live-Action Adaptation

 

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It seems that it wasn’t just fans who were unhappy with Netflix’s absolute mishandling of the beloved space western series, as original Cowboy Bebop anime creator Shinichirō Watanabe has admitted that he couldn’t bring himself to suffer through more than one scene of the streaming service’s live-action abomination.

 

The veteran anime director shared his opinion on the widely-panned, cancelled-three-weeks-after-its-premiere adaptation during a recent career retrospective interview given to Forbes’ Ollie Barder.

 

Following brief look back at his past portfolio, including such works as Blue Comet SPT Layzner, Gundam 0083, and of course Cowboy Bebop, Watanabe was asked for his thoughts on Netflix’s Cowboy Bebop, to which he revealed that he was, to say the least, not a fan.

“For the new Netflix live-action adaptation, they sent me a video to review and check,” recalled Watanabe. “It started with a scene in a casino, which made it very tough for me to continue.”

 

“I stopped there and so only saw that opening scene,” he confessed.

“It was clearly not Cowboy Bebop and I realized at that point that if I wasn’t involved, it would not be Cowboy Bebop,” he added. “I felt that maybe I should have done this. Although the value of the original anime is somehow far higher now.”

 

Not only did Watanabe share his distaste for Netflix’s adaptation, be he also opened up about his general opposition to the Hollywood machine.

“Back on The Animatrix, I first got to work with people in Hollywood,” said the director, reflecting on his short for the animated The Matrix anthology, Kid’s Story. “Working with those kinds of people is always difficult. This is because at the beginning they promised me that I could do whatever I want, but that’s just lip service.”

 

“Actually, I had a big altercation with a Hollywood producer on The Animatrix,” Watanabe recounted.

“He would always come with these stupid requests, just so he could identify his own contribution,” he continued. “As the requests were stupid and made no sense, I rejected all of them. Unfortunately, I couldn’t win in this situation, so I had to concede on some of these things”

“I learned from this bitter experience though,” the director affirmed. “For subsequent projects, I became smarter at handling people who wanted to interfere. In that, I would send back very small corrections or adjustments just before the deadline. That tended to work.”

 

“In Japan, you sometimes get producers that are similar to American ones,” Watanabe said. “You also sometimes find good producers in America.”

“The original producer on The Animatrix was a really good guy,” he noted. “He understood my work and didn’t give me stupid requests. However, he had to leave due to family issues, but his successor, called Spencer Lamm, was awful.”

 

“So many requests,” he frustratingly stated. “Change this, change that. It was very frustrating and if these requests were coming from the Wachowskis, I would at least respect that as they came up with The Matrix. So who was the new producer compared to that? He explained that he was the gatekeeper to the Wachowskis and unless he could be convinced, he wouldn’t bring my work to them.”

In handling this situation, Watanabe said that, “when I went to Los Angeles for the recording sessions, I told the team that if I saw that producer I would just punch him in the face. The producer ended up not coming to the recordings, which is unheard of.”

 

Of course, Watanabe is far from the first Japanese creator to express massive disappointment at the West’s handling of their creations.

Most notable among such creators is original Dragon Ball mangaka Akira Toriyama, who after witnessing the James Wong disaster that was Dragonball: Evolution felt the need to produce Dragon Ball Super in order to undo the damage the live-action outing did to his legacy.

 

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https://deadline.com/2023/01/westworld-gets-new-home-as-warner-bros-discovery-strikes-roku-tubi-fast-channel-deals-1235245347/

 

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I do think that limiting a studio like Lucasfilm to just Star Wars is a waste. That being said, I also think them trying to recapture Indy's magic in some way with or without Ford wouldn't fly either.

 

Let folks try some new shit at reasonable prices. The nostalgia well is only SO deep.

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10 hours ago, Hecatom said:

I wonder, seeing how high budget Shadow and Bone is, why I didn't see any promotion about its new season being released.

Unless you are Stranger Things after the first or maybe second season or a big named movie with a movie star they purchased, Netflix promotion usually is ass. 

 

They honestly should make a deal with Amazon, Roku or whoever to set a free ad based channel that shows mostly their older originals and few episodes of their new ones to grab people. Even their YouTube presence is lacking compared to Apple TV of all things.

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1 hour ago, Wellman said:

Unless you are Stranger Things after the first or maybe second season or a big named movie with a movie star they purchased, Netflix promotion usually is ass. 

 

They honestly should make a deal with Amazon, Roku or whoever to set a free ad based channel that shows mostly their older originals and few episodes of their new ones to grab people. Even their YouTube presence is lacking compared to Apple TV of all things.

With my lil bro we were talking about it. 

Wondering if maybe, because is based on a YA novel, the series is mostly promoted on tiktok and the like instead of youtube. 

 

 

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Man, Snowfall's series finale broke my heart in a good way. That ending made me feel something 😭

 

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And the neighborhood Franklin lived in and destroyed ended up being the SAME neighborhood where John Singleton shot Boyz N the Hood. You actually the cast from that movie in the background shootingthe movie in the Snowfall show.

 

That shit was meta as fuck and an excellent tribute to John. My mind is blown by that Easter egg

 

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Twisted Metal is great. Maybe not ultra accurate but a fun ride, gets alot closer to the source material toward the end of the season.

 

Samoa Joe/Arnett as Sweet Tooth is a joy whenever he is on screen

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Ironically Sweet Tooth is an evil bastard but still not the worst villain in this show lol

.  Anthony is good as usual, so is the chick who's name escapes me. Cant wait for the next season if there is one

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I watched Rebel Moon Part 1. It was okay. Based on what the critics have been saying was expecting it to absolutely terrible. It was just okay. Biggest issue, for me, was pacing. Outside of Kora and Gunnar to a lesser extent. You don't get to know most of the characters. They show up in rapid succession with minimal built up. And it seems like a few of them have potentially interesting backgrounds.

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Oh yeah tabs will be kept.... in looking her up I also noticed she's an Aussie and thus has THAT accent

...unfortunately the accent is not quite as strong/obvious as I'd like though; that's a shame.

 

Oh yeah and I was already interested in this the moment I found out Sofia would be in there; that girl is entirely too adorable

Even in the "Mummy" makeup some years ago she was looking like the finest mummy anyone has ever seen.  Yeah I'd eat that.

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