The PC Gaming Thread, no console peasants allowed

Darc_Requiem · October 16, 2020

10 hours ago, DarkSakul said:

So i just realize this thing with 4th gen m.2 SSDs talking directly to teh graphics card you need the following

Compatible Graphics card (Nvidia RTX 3000 or Radeon RX 6000 a.k.a. "big Navi" )

A 4th gen NVMw M.2 SSD

A compatible motherboard (which is rolling out with the bios updates on AMD B550 and X570X chipsets and 470, B450, B450 II chipsets in January 2021).

No word of support on any Intel boards. Then again Intel changes up sockets with every chip gen for no reason.

Intel doesn't have any PCIE 4.0 support. Only AMD does and only on its B550 and X570 motherboards. There were rumors that board partners would try to enable it on X470 boards but that never came to pass.

DarkSakul · October 16, 2020

Oh yeah I did goof that one up, I checked with Tom's Hardware. Out of all the X470 Mobos, only the ROG Strix X470-F Gaming, and the Prime X470-Pro are able run a PCIe 4.0 graphics card at x8 speed and PCIe 4 gen SSD at x4 speed. Then you probably need a bios update which not be available till next year anyways (assuming it would happen).
And even then there no idea if it supports that direct SSD to GPU.

Good thing I got a X570 recently.

12 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Intel doesn't have any PCIE 4.0 support.

I though so. Intel got lazy and didn't do much in the last decade or so and actually actively held back PC development. Now AMD caught up and got intel on the ropes, and I hope this time Intel don't just jump back up like they did in the past. We need competition in the PC CPU space, not Intel being the leader (as they shown they get lax).
At least Nvidia decided when Radeon isn't up to stuff, that they would compete with them selves, the downside he we got shitty RTX 2000 series cards at a terrible price points.
They [Intel] insist to Microsoft that they need to support (the terrible) Intel Integrated graphics and hamstring what Win Vista and Win 7 could do as they have to support a inferior and lousy on board graphics no one ever asked for. Win 10 have downgraded the graphical effects of the OS to try to have a wider install base and run on Arm processors (which MS abandoned now).
The Intel on board graphics set was even sub par for office work, even their later HD stuff was a joke. It's so bad that Intel considered to outsource the Integrated graphics to AMD (that apparently didn't happen or it stayed low-key), they since look like they would not give up the ghost on the graphics front, as they are supposedly working on that Intel Xe graphics, no word if we see Xe graphic cards or is that vaporware.

Darc_Requiem · October 16, 2020

@DarkSakulI'm honestly surprised at Intel's ineptitude. I like many others, thought they had something ready to drop if AMD got close. It's 3 years and AMD isn't close they are just plain better now. With few if any caveats. Can't even lean on gaming after Zen 3 launches.

Edited October 16, 2020 by Darc_Requiem

DarkSakul · October 16, 2020

Well yeah Intel felt superior and didn't have to do shit and dragged their feet. Thinking single core performance is going to carry them.
Yet, AMD has just increase their instructions per clock by 19%, only thing AMD haven't beat Intel in is that 5Ghz barrier, and I am certain now it's not necessary.

misterBee · October 16, 2020

my god

Darc_Requiem · October 16, 2020

Yes Zen 2 equaled Intel's IPC. They were saved by their higher clock speeds. With the increased IPC, that won't save them. Plus their 10nm desktop chips seem to have lower maximum clocks.

YourFavGrandpa · October 16, 2020

So, everything worked out fine with the G502. But I am still having issues with it in Windows, specifically the double clicking and dragging are getting to be a nuisance with it. Once the Model D gets here, I'm gonna take the G502 apart and clean it; then it'll be relegated to laptop duty with no G Hub software installed.

Hawkingbird · October 16, 2020

4 hours ago, YourFavGrandpa said:

So, everything worked out fine with the G502. But I am still having issues with it in Windows, specifically the double clicking and dragging are getting to be a nuisance with it. Once the Model D gets here, I'm gonna take the G502 apart and clean it; then it'll be relegated to laptop duty with no G Hub software installed.

I had those exact same problems with the last logitech mouse at had. This is eerie.