The PC Gaming Thread, no console peasants allowed

[Hawkingbird]

27 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

@HawkingbirdIt was actually @misterBeethat said it. I just cosigned. It really is looking a like a bulldozer situation. Gen 11 is Bulldozer and Gen 10 is Phenom. Is the Gen 11 consistently better at anything in comparison to the Gen 10? Since the flagship is only 8 cores, even with IPC gains, it doesn't seem to offset the loss of 2 cores.

It's better at being a heater then gen 10. The amount of heat and power consumption it produces is insane. It seems at it's best Gen 11 hopes to match a Ryzen 5600 in gaming and that's a shame. It does a little better in production but Gen 10 still outperforms it.  

[Darc_Requiem]

39 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

It's better at being a heater then gen 10. The amount of heat and power consumption it produces is insane. It seems at it's best Gen 11 hopes to match a Ryzen 5600 in gaming and that's a shame. It does a little better in production but Gen 10 still outperforms it.  

Just watched the HUB review on my lunch break. His conclusion was to buy the 10600K. It's basically the same performance, when overclocked, for less money than the 11600K.

[misterBee]

Ended up getting the 10900.

 

Using a cobbled-together cooling solution (Cryorig C1 + NZXT 120mm fan), so I can't use the processor to its full potential.  However even with a healthy undervolt and some tweaked power limits it still almost doubles the performance of my old 1700 in Cinebench.

 

Stock z490 mobo settings were stupid.  Out of the box the board basically removes power limits and forces turbo clocks on all cores.  CPU hit over 100°C after 10 seconds in Cinebench.  Completely ignoring stock CPU settings like that out of the box seems irresponsible and dangerous, especially if the person who bought the board doesn't know what they're doing.

 

Now that I've turned off  that dumb stuff in the mobo settings things are much cooler and more reasonable.

[Darc_Requiem]

For anyone looking for a laugh.....

 

[YourFavGrandpa]

On 3/30/2021 at 9:38 AM, Hawkingbird said:

Gamer Nexus review of the 11th gen i7 called it a waste of sand.

For those looking for the video version:

 

[Hawkingbird]

6 minutes ago, YourFavGrandpa said:

For those looking for the video version:

The i9 review was more brutal. He actually made comparisons to bulldozer on that one. This really is a role reversal in every way possible. 

[DarkSakul]

 

[misterBee]

Fun fact: the reel to reel machine used in this LGR episode was purchased from my dad.  He repairs/restores/sells vintage reel to reel machines. 🙂

 

 

[Darc_Requiem]

While Intel is still fucking up.....

 

 

[DarkSakul]

8 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said:

While Intel is still fucking up.....

If you ask me, Intel been fucking it up.for a long while. They are in just the beings 9f paying for it dearly. 

[misterBee]

Found out about a new pre-built vendor -- seems quite reasonable, and with only a $75 build fee!

 

https://buildredux.com/

 

Maybe this will come in handy for some people.

[YourFavGrandpa]

On 4/4/2021 at 5:18 PM, DarkSakul said:

If you ask me, Intel been fucking it up.for a long while. They are in just the beings 9f paying for it dearly. 

What's worse is that one of my long-time friends is none other than Kyle Bennett (formerly ran HardOCP, now is at Intel). He's part of all this shit for the current Intel processors, and I just wanna reach all the way back and slap the shit outta him.

[Darc_Requiem]

Intel Employee A: "Have we fucked up recently?"

Intel Employee B': "Well there was the 11th Gen CPU launch...."

Intel Employee A: "Oh...well, I hope no one notices our B560 boards..."

Intel Employee B: 🤨

 

 

Edited May 20, 2021 by Darc_Requiem

[Hawkingbird]

Steve has been spicy lately

 

[Darc_Requiem]

Jarrod's Tech has a good video on the ASUS G15 laptop with a 6800M laptop GPU. Well actually it's an all AMD model. He also discovered that the laptops performance is gimped by substandard memory. Basically, if anyone buys this laptop add about $100 to the price for the RAM you'll need to buy to get 100% performance. Asus claims the substandard memory is a result of supply constraints 🙄

 

 

[misterBee]

So the good news is that my local Microcenter has plenty of 6700xt and 6900xt cards available.

 

The bad news is that the 6700xt is about $1000, and the 6900xt is $2500.  🙃

[Psychoblue]

So with emulation finally in a really good space, I'm thinking about buying a high-end laptop. Currently I have an Acer Nitro 5 with a 1050Ti, 256 SSD and i5 8th processor. What are the best RTX laptops on the market especially when it comes to battery power and portability?  Also, what would be the best place to sell/trade in my Acer Nitro 5?  I have to imagine it would pay off at least 3-4 months of my new laptop, currently looking at paying whatever I get off via monthly payments.  

[Darc_Requiem]

2 minutes ago, Psychoblue said:

So with emulation finally in a really good space, I'm thinking about buying a high-end laptop. Currently I have an Acer Nitro 5 with a 1050Ti, 256 SSD and i5 8th processor. What are the best RTX laptops on the market especially when it comes to battery power and portability?  Also, what would be the best place to sell/trade in my Acer Nitro 5?  I have to imagine it would pay off at least 3-4 months of my new laptop, currently looking at paying whatever I get off via monthly payments.  

I'm not super up on the laptop scene, that said. Jarrod's Tech is the best laptop review site on Youtube IMO. He'd be a good place to start your research.

 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2Rzju32yQPkQ7oIhmeuLwg

[Skort]

 

[Darc_Requiem]

More Intel B560 motherboard tests

 

 

[Hawkingbird]

I learned about the LG bribing shit with Hardware Unboxed. Seriously, why to tech companies keep trying to give these guys smoke?

[Darc_Requiem]

8 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

I learned about the LG bribing shit with Hardware Unboxed. Seriously, why to tech companies keep trying to give these guys smoke?

Yeah those dudes have integrity. If you try to bribe them they are going to air your ass out. Shit's just hilarious.

[Hawkingbird]

There's a sale on AMD CPUs ahead of Prime Day

 

5800X for $400

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0815XFSGK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=b8164e40ce3211eb98867276c69fe3700INT&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

 

3900X for $420

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/p/N82E16819113103?sdtid=15093301&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-Slickdeals+LLC&AFFID=208164&AFFNAME=Slickdeals+LLC&ACRID=1&ASUBID=c749536cce3211ebb9049e51afe3efdb0INT&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fslickdeals.net%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=208164&ranSiteID=lw9MynSeamY-GdCDEcBEymFKmgXwy_l33Q

[DarkSakul]

Nvidia GT 730 vs Intel Iris

MSI reissued Nvidia's GT 730, how does it compare to the Intel Iris HD Integrated graphics

[Hawkingbird]

So, who's putting Windows 11 on their machine when it drops?

[Darc_Requiem]

Yeah I'm going to let everyone go through all the bugs first before I do that.

[Hawkingbird]

The weeb in me wants all of this

 

 

[DarkSakul]

Friend of mine already went all out and designed a matching Xbox controller
 

 

[misterBee]

13 hours ago, Hawkingbird said:

The weeb in me wants all of this

Too bad he didn't also make a build showing the Zaku version -  I think it actually looks better!

 

[Darc_Requiem]

So FSR is better than expected. Crazy that runs on Nvidia cards too. 1080Ti owners will never have to upgrade at this rate 🤣

 

 

Edited June 22, 2021 by Darc_Requiem

[DarkSakul]

I love it as China starts to crack down on Crypto Mining harder than before, GPU prices started to drop. 

The Chinese state now investigating any odd or irregularly high power draw, and if its used for crypto mining farm, they arrest everybody and confiscate all the equipment. 

https://www.reuters.com/technology/cryptocurrencies-tumble-amid-china-crackdown-bitcoin-miners-2021-06-21/

 

Now only if the rest of the world also cracks down on Crypto mining 

[Darc_Requiem]

If fans can do this without full access to the source code, FSR should be a cake walk to implement for developers.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-now-available-in-grand-theft-auto-5-thanks-to-a-fan-mod

[Hawkingbird]

This is the experience of a filthy casual buying a Dell.

 

 

Pretentious tone adds to the hilarity. Dell put this man through a existential crisis for 6 months and only got out because they sent a ninja to make the problem go away. 

 

Don't be in his situation. Friends don't let friends buy Dell.

[YourFavGrandpa]

On 6/16/2021 at 8:01 PM, Hawkingbird said:

So, who's putting Windows 11 on their machine when it drops?

I'm actively considering it, but more than likely until my client gives the okay to have us in quality assurance perform the upgrade; I'm staying on Windows 10.

[DarkSakul]

Video Game PSA
 

 

Don't run New World with a 3090, it will brick your card 

 

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by DarkSakul
bricks AMD and Nvidia cards

[DarkSakul]

 

[Darc_Requiem]

Was the game developed by scalpers after more overpriced GPU sales? 🤔

[YourFavGrandpa]

the post by J2C regarding the types of GPUs that are dying to New World has me pretty much hard passing on the game. I don't need my 3070 dying because Amazon can't code a game properly, the fuck

[Darc_Requiem]

34 minutes ago, YourFavGrandpa said:

the post by J2C regarding the types of GPUs that are dying to New World has me pretty much hard passing on the game. I don't need my 3070 dying because Amazon can't code a game properly, the fuck

Now it all makes sense. Its an Amazon game. 

 

Step 1: Release a game that bricks graphics cards

Step 2: Sell gamers new over priced graphics cards as replacements

Step 3: Profit

[Darc_Requiem]

So apparently Nvidia thing GB of VRAM is good enough 2021. I had 4GB of VRAM in my 2011 gaming laptop......

 

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Darc_Requiem

[Hawkingbird]

Linus got the most in-depth with the Steam Deck. As far as Valve was willing to allow. 

 

 

He managed to use frame rate counter on Doom Eternal, perform an input delay test with CS:GO and used a thermal camera.

Edited August 6, 2021 by Hawkingbird

[Darc_Requiem]

Good stuff man, I'll check it out as soon as I get home. 

[misterBee]

On 7/23/2021 at 10:21 AM, YourFavGrandpa said:

the post by J2C regarding the types of GPUs that are dying to New World has me pretty much hard passing on the game. I don't need my 3070 dying because Amazon can't code a game properly, the fuck

A bit late, but it's more an issue of certain AIB manufacturers not setting up their own cards properly.  By now there have been plenty of videos showing that some partner cards do not set appropriate limits on their hardware, which causes the cards to kill themselves under certain circumstances.

 

Software cannot usually drive a card to death.  If anything New World is simply exposing how manufacturers are putting out flawed products.  If New World did not cause them to die then some other game eventually would.

[Darc_Requiem]

Bruh, why does this GPU look like a scam GPU from Ali Express 🤣

 

 

Edited August 13, 2021 by Darc_Requiem

[Hawkingbird]

Razor is dripping their toes in the custom keyboard market 

 

 

[DarkSakul]

It's not a hard Market to break into, people been doing these custom keyboard companies in their homes and running group buys for a while.

 

It's a low bar to enter 

[YourFavGrandpa]

On 8/7/2021 at 2:57 PM, misterBee said:

A bit late, but it's more an issue of certain AIB manufacturers not setting up their own cards properly.  By now there have been plenty of videos showing that some partner cards do not set appropriate limits on their hardware, which causes the cards to kill themselves under certain circumstances.

 

Software cannot usually drive a card to death.  If anything New World is simply exposing how manufacturers are putting out flawed products.  If New World did not cause them to die then some other game eventually would.

Bringing this post back up for clarification, and the excuse to post another J2C video: 

As usual, @misterBee is correct regarding the software side of things. The tl;dr of the current video is that most of the vendors who sell GPUs (think EVGA, MSI, Zotac et al) have been lazily putting these GPUs together and missing solder spots here and there. New World, as it so happens; is exposing shoddy workmanship and by that process, is killing GPUs that cost more than my whole PC.

[YourFavGrandpa]

Ended up having an issue with my EKWB AIO, turns out the pump died; causing idling on the desktop at 95C. Ended up buying a Noctua NH-D15 off of Newegg, with delivery details TBD to replace it. Guessing end of the week on Friday, with me taking most of the morning on Saturday to put it together and remove (and subsequently yeet) the dead AIO. Haven't decided what I will do with the two RGB fans that came with it, probably will swap in my Coolermaster 240 RGB fan setup until I have enough money to move everything over to Noctua.

[Hawkingbird]

 

[Darc_Requiem]

AMD is supposedly releasing a low end GPU the 6500XT at a "reasonable" price. I'll believe it when I see it. It only has 16CUs at 120W. For reference the 6600XT has 32CUs at 130W. So they should be able to get twice as many dies per wafer but in this market, I can't imagine the price being what it should be. This sounds like a card that would have been $150 in normal times. The "MSRP" will probably be $229 or something.

 

Side Note: Given it has half the CUs of the 6600XT but similar power usage. They'd clock speed would have to be well over 2.5Ghz. RDNA2 is more than capable of that  but I'm skeptical to say the least.