Chun-Li_Forever Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 ShockDingo, Darc_Requiem and Shakunetsu 3 Quote Link to comment
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YagamiFire Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/12/2023 at 6:31 PM, BornWinner said: Friendly reminder that JP has threatened to kill not one but two children with bombs. I already liked JP, you don't need to keep selling me on him. Hawkingbird, Shakunetsu, Darc_Requiem and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
ShockDingo Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Shakunetsu said: @ShockDingo Whoooo! It's finally here!!! Shakunetsu 1 Quote Link to comment
Dragonfave723 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Sup, Azam. BornWinner, DarthEnderX, Shakunetsu and 5 others 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Shakunetsu Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Dragonfave723 said: Sup, Azam. still no Byron haha Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Dragonfave723 said: Sup, Azam. Slightly less genie-like. Good. Shakunetsu 1 Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Well, I finally finished maxing out every Master's Mastery and Bond level. Just in time for Rashid! Earlier in the thread, when we were talking about whether your character's preternatural ability to copy styles was canon, or just a gameplay conceit, and it was said that none of the character seem to comment on it, so it's probably not real. But after maxing out everyone's Bond, I can say that a bunch of the characters actually mention it as their bond gets higher. Luke calls you a "technique sponge", Manon calls you a "genius when it comes to mimicking the styles of others" and "you make stealing skills look easy", etc. So at the very least, your fighter copying abilities are an actual thing, and they seem unusual and noteworthy to them. Edited July 20, 2023 by DarthEnderX Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Glad to see they did'nt forgot Azam Good chance we will be able to fight him, hope they did'nt went super lazy with his moveset Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 Anyone seen @Daemoslately? I've noticed a lack of Bison imagery on the forum recently and I'm getting concerned. 🥺 ToreyBeans 1 Quote Link to comment
Chun-Li_Forever Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Stay cool and hydrated this summer everyone Darc_Requiem, Shakunetsu, ShockDingo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said: Anyone seen @Daemoslately? I've noticed a lack of Bison imagery on the forum recently and I'm getting concerned. 🥺 There's only a way to see if he's alive We should discuss the fact that canon wise Gill as fighter and Secret Society as org are implied to be more powerful than Bison and Shadaloo JustBooming, Darc_Requiem, Hawkingbird and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 Yes, Gill vs Bison is not a contest. Bison doesn't stand a chance. *waits patiently for @Daemosto arrive* Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 JP is also stronger than Bison. Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 But we should be honest and admit Bison would defeat Kolin even without use infinite health cheat-machines No-cheats Bison vs Urien would be a cool fight! Quote Link to comment
YagamiFire Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 If we're being totally honest, the math does not work well in Bison's favor Bison has had his physical form destroyed at least twice. Dan has had his corporeal form destroyed ZERO TIMES. Dan > Bison. Hold that L, Bison. Darc_Requiem, DarthEnderX, Hawkingbird and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
YagamiFire Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) Actually mentioning two and zero has put me in a math mood so let's prove why Bison is weak You know they say that all street fighters are created equal, but you look at Gill and you look at M. Bison and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if Bison goes one on one with another street fighter, Bison's got a 50/50 chance of winning. But Gill's a genetic freak and he's not normal! So Bison's got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat Gill. Then you add J.P. to the mix, Bison's chances of winning drastic go down. See the Street Fighter 6, Bison's got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but Gill, Gill's got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because J.P. KNOWS he can't beat Gill and he's not even gonna try! So M. Bison, you take his 33 1/3 chance, minus Gill's 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning Street Fighter 6. But then you take Gill's 75% chance of winning, if they was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, Gill's got 141 2/3 chance of winning against the bosses. See @Daemos, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for Bison in Street Fighter 6. Edited July 22, 2023 by YagamiFire Darc_Requiem, BornWinner, DarthEnderX and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 46 minutes ago, YagamiFire said: You know they say that all street fighters are created equal, but you look at Gill and you look at M. Bison and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if Bison goes one on one with another street fighter, Bison's got a 50/50 chance of winning. But Gill's a genetic freak and he's not normal! So Bison's got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat Gill. Then you add J.P. to the mix, Bison's chances of winning drastic go down. See the Street Fighter 6, Bison's got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but Gill, Gill's got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because J.P. KNOWS he can't beat Gill and he's not even gonna try! So M. Bison, you take his 33 1/3 chance, minus Gill's 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning Street Fighter 6. But then you take Gill's 75% chance of winning, if they was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, Gill's got 141 2/3 chance of winning against the bosses. See @Daemos, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for Bison in Street Fighter 6. Darc_Requiem, ShockDingo and YagamiFire 3 Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, YagamiFire said: J.P. KNOWS he can't beat Gill and he's not even gonna try! Would add JP gone further and draped his own stage with Gill's colors, to let SS Emperor know that he's willing to submit and become his vassal servant in Nayshall Good plan to keep some freedom, props to JP Lord_Vega and YagamiFire 1 1 Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 2 days till Rashidooo! Shakunetsu, ToreyBeans, YagamiFire and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 20 hours ago, DarthEnderX said: 2 days till Rashidooo! Curious to know his story Still have my old theory Rashid may be the unseen "Jade Goat" (completing the trio Crimson Viper-Smalt Raven-Jade Goat) Quote Link to comment
Lord_Vega Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, CESTUS III said: Curious to know his story Still have my old theory Rashid may be the unseen "Jade Goat" (completing the trio Crimson Viper-Smalt Raven-Jade Goat) If they at least name his female friend, known as "eyepuzzledurmom", I'll be happy. ShockDingo and Shakunetsu 2 Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 23 hours ago, DarthEnderX said: 2 days till Rashidooo! Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I did Rashid story mode. Nothing special here. A recap of a shadow falls, deciding to become a streamer to showcase his fights as a way to find his place in the world. Spoiler He finds Ryu and asks for a rematch. The thought never occurred to him to stream the fight. He enjoyed fighting without distractions and can see himself walking down Ryu's path. But not before getting some use out of the drone camera he just brought. Found Rashid in world tour. You have to meet Azam in Nayshall at night near the hideout. Darc_Requiem, Lord_Vega and ShockDingo 3 Quote Link to comment
Lord_Vega Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said: I did Rashid story mode. Nothing special here. A recap of a shadow falls, deciding to become a streamer to showcase his fights as a way to find his place in the world. Hide contents He finds Ryu and asks for a rematch. The thought never occurred to him to stream the fight. He enjoyed fighting without distractions and can see himself walking down Ryu's path. But not before getting some use out of the drone camera he just brought. Found Rashid in world tour. You have to meet Azam in Nayshall at night near the hideout. You mean his arcade story? I see. Let's see if there'll be anything interesting while you bond with him. Quote Link to comment
Doctrine_Dark Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Rashid to Luke: “Good game! We gotta do it again sometime, either in real life or with a controller!” Luke to Rashid: “Good games, bud! Wait, you were recording that? Nice, I want to see!” Rashid to Jamie: “You’re a peacekeeper? Good to hear it. We all must help people in need.” Jamie to Rashid: “Bro, your wind is awesome. At helping me sober up.” Rashid to Manon: “There’s something about you...Wait, you’re a model? That explains everything!” Manon to Rashid: “Oh, you wish to film me? Sorry, but I’m fully booked.” Rashid to Kimberly: “Wow, for a ninja you’ve got some STYLE. I bet your moves would look good on stream!” Kimberly to Rashid: “You got all of my Ninjastar moves recorded? It’s all based on Bushinryu, you know.” Rashid to Marisa: “You really know how to lay on the pressure. Good thing I have the wind on my side.” Marisa to Rashid: “Not even the wind can stand firm against my fists!” Rashid to Lily: “Your wind is also amazing. It’s like a mini-hurricane!” Lily to Rashid: “I believe your answer lies within the wind. Perhaps start there?” Rashid to JP: “I’ve decided I’m not a fan of you or your power. Real bad guy vibes from you.” JP to Rashid: “Don’t approach me with fairweather ambitions. Next time they may be the end of you.” Rashid to Juri: “This isn’t some “you should be more ladylike” thing, but...shouldn’t you take it down a notch?” Juri to Rashid: “You better upload this video of where I kicked your butt too!” Rashid to Dee Jay: “Yeah, your beat’s a real crowd-pleaser! I’m glad I recorded the whole thing!” Dee Jay to Rashid: “Dry wind drifting across a rolling desert...I like that vibe! Very ambient.” Rashid to Cammy: “You were looking for your sisters, right? I hope you found them safe and sound.” Cammy to Rashid: “I have matters to attend to. You’re filming fights for entertainment? Find someone else.” Rashid to Ryu: “It’s always a sobering experience fighting you. I learn something new every time.” Ryu to Rashid: “We need a rematch where you’re more serious. I know you’re capable of much more.” Rashid to Honda: “It’s crazy that sumo wrestlers can fly like that when you’re double my size! Haha!” Honda to Rashid: “Being light on yer feet is all fine and dandy...Until you get slapped away! Gahaha!” Rashid to Blanka: “Your electricity broke my camera! What’s gonna happen to my vids!?” Blanka to Rashid: “You took a video? Let me see! Am I there!?” Rashid to Guile: “Your defense is on point, just like your hair. But this time, my wind was the deciding factor.” Guile to Rashid: “Sorry, but that kind of wind can’t even mess up a single strand of my hair.” Rashid to Ken: “Heard all the rumors about you, but I’m glad to see your fire still burns.” Ken to Rashid: “Gonna have to ask you not to upload that one. I don’t need any more media coverage.” Rashid to Chun-Li: “You’re teaching kids kung fu? You’re not teaching them THOSE kicks, are you?” Chun-Li to Rashid: “You fought hard when we took down Shadaloo. But you’ve neglected your training.” Rashid to Zangief: “No one can hold down the roaring winds of the desert!” Zangief to Rashid: “Neither the wind, nor the clouds can escape my arms of steel! I’m just built different! Gwaha!” Rashid to Dhalsim: “Your stretchy stuff always throws me for a loop, no matter how many times I see it.” Dhalsim to Rashid: “Yoga is not just about stretching. Its essence can also seize your wind.” Rashid to Rashid: “I leave it to the wind to see how far I can go.” Edited July 24, 2023 by Doctrine_Dark Dracu, Hawkingbird, ShockDingo and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment
Chun-Li_Forever Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Chun-Li to Rashid: "You fought hard when we took down Shadaloo. But you've neglected your training." Thoughts: I also think you owe Chunners an apology for beating her up when she was injured and stealing her Black Moon key, HUH RASHID?!?! Interesting that Chun-Li would say this when I don't think that these two ever interacted together during the Shadaloo takeover. They all reconvened on to Karin's escape chopper. But that's it. And Rashid and Azam were doing their thing while Guild, Chun, and Ryu went to take on M. Bison. So I'm guessing Chun-Li heard reports of Rashid playing a key role in shutting down the black moons. But interestingly, Rashid does seem to be going to more of the streamer route. So while Chun focus on daily training, Rashid setting up his brand and getting all the latest equipment for the views, likes, and subscribes. I def think this shows the different mentalities between the two fighters in the aftermath, as well as personalities. Chun more focused, while Rashid is more free-flowing like the wind. Rashid to Chun-Li: "You're teaching kids kung fu? You're not teaching them THOSE kicks, are you?" Thoughts: This quote got me laughing really hard. I can just imagine it right now. Quote Chun-Li: Today, we are practicing the basic roundhouse kick Kids/Students: Basics are boring! Teach us how to hover in the air, upside down with our legs split. Parents: *starts contacting the Dept of Labor, and writing on yelp* Chun-Li: No! No! Wait! It's not like that! Just the basics! I promise! Li-Fen: You're on your own with this one Jiejie. But this is probably one of my fave win quotes against Chun-Li (probably 2nd to Ryu). It's a lot of fun, Rashid finds out what Chun has been doing these days. And a nice wisecracking joke shared between them. 10/10 in my opinion. BornWinner and ShockDingo 2 Quote Link to comment
ShockDingo Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 In his ASF recap, anything about his encounter with G? I'm starvin' heeeeeere! Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I want his Front Flip back! Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 During one of Rashid's mission, I encounterd honest-to-god Shadaloo soldiers! Talkin' about Bison and everything. ShockDingo and Lord_Vega 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Chun-Li_Forever Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 29 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said: During one of Rashid's mission, I encounterd honest-to-god Shadaloo soldiers! Talkin' about Bison and everything. And his discount store Kings of Shadaloo make an appearance during the Suval'hal Arena submissions DarthEnderX and Darc_Requiem 2 Quote Link to comment
BootyWarrior Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 13 hours ago, ShockDingo said: In his ASF recap, anything about his encounter with G? I'm starvin' heeeeeere! Nothing on G but according to Rashid his ancestors got obliterated by invaders with "fair skin and golden hair, and flew banners split evenly in red and blue." After that you get artwork where you can see Gill riding a horse. Hawkingbird, YagamiFire, DarthEnderX and 3 others 1 5 Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, BootyWarrior said: Nothing on G but according to Rashid his ancestors got obliterated by invaders with "fair skin and golden hair, and flew banners split evenly in red and blue." After that you get artwork where you can see Gill riding a horse. Yep. The ancient kingdom he's of the royal lineage of was wiped out by the Secret Society seemingly. BootyWarrior and ShockDingo 2 Quote Link to comment
Lord_Vega Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Darc_Requiem, Dracu, bakfromon and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment
Lord_Vega Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 hours ago, Chun-Li_Forever said: And his discount store Kings of Shadaloo make an appearance during the Suval'hal Arena submissions Fake Mike Bison/Balrog Fake Balrog/Vega Fake Sagat (wonder what's the story behind his scar LOL) Low Rank Shadaloo soldiers 1 hour ago, DarthEnderX said: Yep. The ancient kingdom he's of the royal lineage of was wiped out by the Secret Society seemingly. How original... copy/paste of the Thunderfoot's story. Interesting nevertheless. DarthEnderX 1 Quote Link to comment
ShockDingo Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 32 minutes ago, Lord_Vega said: How original... copy/paste of the Thunderfoot's story. Interesting nevertheless. I dunno, depending how they go about it, it could be cool. It's way too early to write off. It could be more than just taking the land, it could show some of the origins of the SS and Rashid's ancestors being stomped could be more than just a land grab, what if the wind element in Rashid's style was a threat to an early illuminati who hadn't gotten all the sacred treasures? What if there's another angle entirely? bakfromon, Lord_Vega, Hawkingbird and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
bakfromon Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 2 hours ago, BootyWarrior said: Nothing on G but according to Rashid his ancestors got obliterated by invaders with "fair skin and golden hair, and flew banners split evenly in red and blue." After that you get artwork where you can see Gill riding a horse. I don’t think it would have been Gill as we know him but an ancestor of Gill. Just like Rashid’s ancestor look like him the previous Illuminati leader that looked like Gill. The timeline is messed up as is but if they’re really saying that Gill is as old as Rashid’s ancestors than idk wtf is going on. ShockDingo and Shakunetsu 2 Quote Link to comment
ShockDingo Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Yeah, it's an ancestor, Gill's under 40. The whole secret society leadership isn't a till death thing and frequently replace the leadership. Nothing's indicated that Gill's immortal and an old, pre-existing leader, he and Urien are young blood. CESTUS III, Jion_Wansu, Darc_Requiem and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Lord_Vega Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, ShockDingo said: I dunno, depending how they go about it, it could be cool. It's way too early to write off. It could be more than just taking the land, it could show some of the origins of the SS and Rashid's ancestors being stomped could be more than just a land grab, what if the wind element in Rashid's style was a threat to an early illuminati who hadn't gotten all the sacred treasures? What if there's another angle entirely? Still copy/paste of the Thunderfoot story😅. Vega and Shadaloo wanted the TF land because of the ore mines (at least that was the reason back in SSF2) present there 30 years prior SF2. I'm not totally sure if the fact that it's a sacred ground could have any impact on Psycho Power. I can't find any source confirming that. Shakunetsu and bakfromon 2 Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 6 hours ago, ShockDingo said: I dunno, depending how they go about it, it could be cool. It's way too early to write off. I doubt it'll ever be important, because Rashid seems to give zero shits about justice or vengeance or restoration for the kingdom. It's just an old story to him, and he doesn't care that he's not royalty. Quote Link to comment
Jion_Wansu Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Will Capcom ever show us the true form of Vega? The Vega we see in the SF Zero series and beyond are just bodies. What was Vega's original body? Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 12 hours ago, ShockDingo said: Yeah, it's an ancestor, Gill's under 40. The whole secret society leadership isn't a till death thing and frequently replace the leadership. Nothing's indicated that Gill's immortal and an old, pre-existing leader, he and Urien are young blood. This According to SS laws Gill is supposed to be 23 when he reached the proper age to be President (or Emperor), so SFV/SF3 Did'nt played much yesterday, so did'nt reached the ancient Gill-look-alike part people talk about My theory is that this guy may be either Secret Society founder/Emperor or anyway SS greatest hero of the past that gave them apex power and glory, so SS keep doing hard eugenics on candidates in hope to "recreate" another him to guide them... would not be surprised if through bloodline all candidates descend from him too May fit also why "president" is something SS will ever have as inevitable part of organization, but "Emperor" title is limited to few exceptional individuals, and there may be cycles/generations without Emperors SS may reserve it to those who are seen worthy of hope to bring back SS to it's former prime Maybe Gill looking so much like him (and having same elemental affinity) may be the reason since begin SS had so much hype for Gill, they may believe to have finally achieved to "resurrect" their hero 5 hours ago, Jion_Wansu said: Will Capcom ever show us the true form of Vega? The Vega we see in the SF Zero series and beyond are just bodies. What was Vega's original body? Yeah that's something i would like to see explored one day Only hint we have is Bison true body is blond with blue eyes, as it's the trait shared by other characters that are supposed to have his DNA 6 hours ago, DarthEnderX said: I doubt it'll ever be important, because Rashid seems to give zero shits about justice or vengeance or restoration for the kingdom. It's just an old story to him, and he doesn't care that he's not royalty. I agree on giving zero shit currently, but also guess it's made to set up a motivation for Rashid to join people against Gill Right now as you say is just ancient history, but when he will see a dude who's gaining global popularity as cult leader that promise peace while being identical to the warlord that destroyed his land in the past, he will likely recognize him as evil and feel the need to do something about it Quote Link to comment
Jion_Wansu Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Piggybacking off of that. Maybe Vega's true past self was a blonde hair/blue eye woman similar to Cammy! Quote Link to comment
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CESTUS III Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jion_Wansu said: Piggybacking off of that. Maybe Vega's true past self was a blonde hair/blue eye woman similar to Cammy! I doubt, he may use female body as emergency solution, but he seems to vision himself as male See the bodies he usually use (SF2, SFA, SF4/V) The thing that ever got me curious is that none of the bodies he used had that genetic blond/blue trait, but seem to have recurring traits between each others, being very similar Similar facial structure, similar height (officially just 5cm difference from shortest to tallest), similar body structure even if some had heavier musculature It's like for some reason Bison had that model in mind, but when they play with his -original body- DNA we ever get different chars with the blond/blue thing Edited July 25, 2023 by CESTUS III Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 5 hours ago, CESTUS III said: he will likely recognize him as evil and feel the need to do something about it Or, more accurately, the need to film himself doing something about it. CESTUS III 1 Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Hawkingbird said: Most of these are bad, still we end up with very good design Quote Link to comment
DarthEnderX Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) Protips: Rashid's +40 Bond gift is a reward for trying the new tournaments at Mike Haggar Stadium. And JP finally got a +40 Bond gift(he didn't have one in base game). It's one of the rewards for the new Nayshall side tournaments. 6 minutes ago, CESTUS III said: Most of these are bad, still we end up with very good design The less he leans into the tech aspect, the better the design. Edited July 25, 2023 by DarthEnderX YagamiFire, Shakunetsu, ToreyBeans and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
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