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N-Tactix Level 6

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11 hours ago, BornWinner said:

Nice little thread about New Generation from Scotia.

I saw this thread on twitter and it just gave me a huge rush of nostalgia of being here and in SRK, I just had to log back in. I vividly remember finding out the statement about Sakura while scouring across some low res scans of a NG guidebook and some Red Earth materials on a Chinese website.

 

Necro's attitude towards the Illuminati being less of hatred and more regret I find pretty interesting compared to how it comes across in the SF3 games, and personally I've never considered the concept of Sean being able to tap into the SnH. It makes sense though I think most people will agree it's not something that's worth exploring. But with SF6 now, I can't help but look at this and be disappointed at how much Capcom kind of just put all these characters on pause.

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JustBooming Level 12

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22 minutes ago, BornWinner said:

“No matter what you’re planning, you better believe that I’m gonna stop ya!”

Some speculated that JP was helping Ed given AKI talking about where the money was going. I very much doubt Ed and AKI are aligned, so three post-shad factions, or just Evil Old JP on his own?

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CESTUS III Level 15

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11 hours ago, Scotia said:

Yeah I had to upload them all individually instead of all at once because Twitter continues to be complete fucking ass these days. The rest should all be below Alex's.

First thanks for the work, based on Alex alone that seems legit awesome 👍

But for some reason i can't see shit below, maybe because i don't have an account?

 

You know if there's another way to see the pics?

 

 

EDIT: i'm doing some google search found some direct links if anybody is having same problem as me

 

Not everybody but still something 😁

 

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Scotia Level 6

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6 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

First thanks for the work, based on Alex alone that seems legit awesome 👍

But for some reason i can't see shit below, maybe because i don't have an account?

 

You know if there's another way to see the pics?

 

 

EDIT: i'm doing some google search found some direct links if anybody is having same problem as me

 

Not everybody but still something 😁

 

GGy9_fOXsAEtaer?format=jpg&name=4096x409

 

 

 

Yeah it's probably becuase you don't hve an account, IIRC they limited how much you can see without having one. I'll just post them all here in a spoiler tag so they're not clogging up the page;
 

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CESTUS III Level 15

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5 hours ago, Scotia said:

 

Yeah it's probably becuase you don't hve an account, IIRC they limited how much you can see without having one. I'll just post them all here in a spoiler tag so they're not clogging up the page;
 

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Thanks so much dude! 👍

 

With Alex covered, some thoughts

 

RYU

-Ryu needing SnH to generate denjin shit is interesting, think somebody here already mentioned it

-Kinda related Shin Shoryuken coming out as result of "unprecedented surge of energy" makes me think how in 6 we see glimpse of his fist and muscles get boosted by SnH at start of Lv3

-For some reason Ryu respect for Dudley is so cool for me, just sells so well the aura of respect/tradition boxing deserve... to bad i fear we will not get him in SF6

 

YUN and YANG

-The twins different philosophy on approaching martial path is so cool, you can definitely see that in real life, there's ever who stick to the book and try to do things 1:1 and who try to loose the form to seek possible evolution

-It's fun how somehow their character next to fight style feels kinda opposite to the usual cliché... Yun who stick to the technique is the energetic/instinctive one, Yang who breaks the technique is more cold minded and thoughtful... usually it's the "hot head" portrayed to break the technique

-Love how they seem to be not only protector of the city in the sense of keep streets safe, but they seem involved into try to support it's success/wealth

 

DUDLEY

-For whatever reason i love he goes purposely out of ordinary boxing despite being designed to be perfect boxing incarnation... it's kinda like if he reached the perfection of the style for how we know it, and now it's pushing it's evolution

 

NECRO

-The part of extreme pain and not be able to stand make sense considering thanks t sf3 sprite we seen they sawed his bones multiple times.

Necro's skeleton it's literally like Katsumi Orochi's imaginary one

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-The idea follow up experiments will be killed only to charge their data on Necro's matrix-like chip to upgrade him it's creepy as fuck, love it. On paper the chip is OP shit, definitely his most underrated asset as fans usually think at him just considering rubber body/electric stuff but on reality the chip alone would still make him a deadly fighter even without these superhuman abilities... considering in SF big picture he's just generic tier freak, they did surprising effort on describe his powers

-Ideal woman having "soft body" possibly hint us something about Effie's body modifications

 

IBUKI

-Love how ths Q&A shows difference between her people's Ninjutsu and Guy's Bushinryu... Ibuki is extremely talented at taijustsu (hand to hand combat) but is seen as barely useful, while for Bushinryu's standards Guy who's extremely just as much (and likely much more) talented at taijutsu it's the fucking Grandmaster lol.

It's interesting she actually have her village ninjutsu mindset, she's simply very talented at fighting but not because she prefer/love it, in fact she seems to see it as waste of time and even use kunai to get work done faster... her taijutsu natural talent seems kinda unintended

-Cool to see despite very rural appearance most advanced countries would hire ninjas of the village for high level intelligence shit

-Fact they send her to learn not only english but even accents to work under fake identities is funny, the idea of her with blond wig speaking with texan accent crack me up

-Lol at them casually throwing infos on G Fucking File as last part of an Ibuki Q&A like nothing (as if SFV G name is'nt casual it's biig shit)

 

ORO

-Oro considering to unseal the arm to play videogames is legendary lol

Bit strange he have to "consider" it as in same Q&A we know he can switch from 1 to 2 arms without much effort, as he does it to eat

-I liked the part where say his eyes may see differently from regular humans... wonder if he can SEE aura/ki, that would explain him being so conscious about fighters potential (like when in W quotes he value Ryu, Gill or Ken)

 

KEN

-No reason to find it fun but Ken though on Ryu's Shin Shoryuken cracked me up, indeed it is

-Answer on Ken realizing Ryu is different is interesting also for how is written... it's starts claiming they're even but make you realize they're not, more like they're even during current state of things. Guess Ken is starting to grasp what Oro could see cleanly

 

SEAN

-Cool to see confirmed Sean has been trained in Matsuda Jiu Jitsu, i mean we knew it thanks to SFV, but this Q&A is much much older so it's the first real confirmation... wish they remember it, another pure Ansatsuken is the last thing SF needs, if i must get Sean in SF6 give me Ansatsuken/MJJ/brawler mix

-Sean biting Ken is awesome, fit so much Headbutt Sean (or Ground and Pound Sean) i remember from SF3, not that SFV pussy lol

-Sean being at risk of SnH is reasonable given we're told he may lose control while fighting... that explain also Ken KTFO him for the bite, was'nt about pain but about give Sean an hard lesson, if that's Sean's character Ken have to fix it otherwise he would be unfitting to learn advanced Ansatsuken just like Dan

-Love he have desire to develop his own special moves, it reduce the risk of get another Ryu/Ken

 

"ETCETERA"

-The answer on how Secret Society > Shadaloo and Bison being somebody's puppet would have made our Daemos go crazy for pages. Hope the guy is doing well wherever he is

-The way he cuts Sagat chances to bring Muay Thai to SF3 is painful even many years after lol. Wich remind me we should learn from the past, MT rep in S2 or riot

-Answer on why Ryu does'nt need to be the lead char to be Ryu is gold, too bad SFV did'nt listen lol

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bakfromon Level 11

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11 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

RYU

-Ryu needing SnH to generate denjin shit is interesting, think somebody here already mentioned it

-Kinda related Shin Shoryuken coming out as result of "unprecedented surge of energy" makes me think how in 6 we see glimpse of his fist and muscles get boosted by SnH at start of Lv3

-For some reason Ryu respect for Dudley is so cool for me, just sells so well the aura of respect/tradition boxing deserve... to bad i fear we will not get him in SF6

I've been mentioning it since SF5 came out! After all, it was a major plot point in Ryu's story in overcoming the SnH. Overcoming SnH wasn't about completely abandoning it like the whole light vs dark debate usually goes. Also, if you realize in CA Shin Shoryu, the utilization of the Denjin energy to electrify his fist implies that the SnH had to have been implemented to get said effect. 

 

 

 

 

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bakfromon Level 11

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42 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

Yeah it was you 😁


Thanks for the credit😂 

 

You can tell that even though some of these ideas would later be incorporated into the character stories some of these points are outdated.
 

We know that Shadaloo is supposedly destroyed or in disarray after SF5 leading into SF3 and all the way into SF6. They say that Bison and Shadaloo are doing well during the time of SF3, and maybe deep behind the scenes they are, but we know from the apparent it’s not the case. 
 

Dudley and Balrog are said not to have met with Dudley only seeing videos of Balrog. We know that not to be the case due to SSF4 which features Dudley’s rival as Balrog. So their relationship has to go beyond just having witnessed video of him. 
 

Also how they explain how the Super Art system works in canon is kinda dated. You gotta remember when SF3 came out the last previous SF title was SFA series. That game featured a system where  characters had access to different Super Moves according to their Super meter (kinda like 6 is now). To have a character not choose to want to use a technique in their arsenal  because of some alternative reality where they don’t know about the technique is just a strange explanation.  I’m glad that they did hint that eventually they might have them all again like we do now in SF6. 

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6 hours ago, bakfromon said:


1- Thanks for the credit😂 

 

2- You can tell that even though some of these ideas would later be incorporated into the character stories some of these points are outdated.
 

3- We know that Shadaloo is supposedly destroyed or in disarray after SF5 leading into SF3 and all the way into SF6. They say that Bison and Shadaloo are doing well during the time of SF3, and maybe deep behind the scenes they are, but we know from the apparent it’s not the case. 
 

4- Dudley and Balrog are said not to have met with Dudley only seeing videos of Balrog. We know that not to be the case due to SSF4 which features Dudley’s rival as Balrog. So their relationship has to go beyond just having witnessed video of him. 
 

5- Also how they explain how the Super Art system works in canon is kinda dated. You gotta remember when SF3 came out the last previous SF title was SFA series. That game featured a system where  characters had access to different Super Moves according to their Super meter (kinda like 6 is now). To have a character not choose to want to use a technique in their arsenal  because of some alternative reality where they don’t know about the technique is just a strange explanation.  I’m glad that they did hint that eventually they might have them all again like we do now in SF6. 

 

1-Was'nt sure who said it, had doubts between you and somebody else but was sure the idea was expressed here before so thought was worth say it 😁

 

2- Yeah, we should consider that was setting the canon back to NG days, then stuff either progressed or even got retcon

 

3- I think we can count that period into same retcon SFV did with Gill becoming Emperor. Guess as today  we can just consider that at some point the two orgs both existed without clash... that's the part still standing, then we know SFV events and how to "adjust" it to what we know back to SF3

 

4- i wonder if we can consider canon all the SF4 rival matches though (if yes then it's indeed a retcon)

Back to SF3 i think the idea was up to NG begin having Dudley still never have been involved in "Street Fighter" stuff, just sticking to become a boxing Champion to recover the family's fortune... iirc the car was very last piece, wich got him involved

What i mean is before SF4 material and going into SF3 Dudley and Rog was like if they was living in different worlds, the former at peak of his success as boxer getting fame and money, the latter as an has been losing to Alex in "Pride FC" style interstyles tournaments

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Think the team back then really wanted show that distance... so if for a moment we don't know SF4 stuff made sense for them to make that Dudley just knew Rog as a previous era top boxer, given that Dudley sure seem the type that studied boxing history

The strange part to me was that in SF4 Dudley seem to not recognize at all Rog (i mean as a famous boxer)

 

5- Yeah that part was super weird lol, felt like he was just justifying gameplay design choices with lore but at least has been smart enough to keep door open

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Im losing hope with Tom even being a playable character in the future he got the perfect spot in SFV just like Zeku. Specially that Alex is being sideline badly

 

But he wasn't given a chance.

 

Hopefully Sean gets something of a playable character than someone in the background and also they should settle things with Remy if they want to retire his character.

 

Necro and Effie should be a playable character too both important figure.

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CESTUS III Level 15

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11 hours ago, JustBooming said:

I think it could be Balrog - not that he's been killed, but has returned to Shadaloo's remnants, ending their association. 

Tbh it was'nt Rog to end their association, was Ed abandoning him because  did'nt wanted him at his side when Psycho Power will (likely) take over

 

Menat told him "You two have rough times ahead", Ed will later realize these "Two" were him and Falke (the other that was suffering same PP nightmares), he literally tell to Rog he don't want him to get involved/hurt and while leaving will think about seek others like himself

 

So he seek people going through same shit he's going on and free Falke... Knife and Gorilla guess joined later and probably don't go through same sufference, otherwise Menat would have said "you four"

 

 

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9 hours ago, CESTUS III said:

Tbh it was'nt Rog to end their association, was Ed abandoning him because  did'nt wanted him at his side when Psycho Power will (likely) take over

 

Menat told him "You two have rough times ahead", Ed will later realize these "Two" were him and Falke (the other that was suffering same PP nightmares), he literally tell to Rog he don't want him to get involved/hurt and while leaving will think about seek others like himself

 

So he seek people going through same shit he's going on and free Falke... Knife and Gorilla guess joined later and probably don't go through same sufference, otherwise Menat would have said "you four"

 

 


For a second I thought that Ed’s story mode had leaked only to be disappointed that it was from SF5😂😭

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Download is live, and Ed is available for offline Story Peeps!

 

Chun-Li to Ed: "If you want Shadaloo out of your life, then I’ll help. You can trust me."

 

Thoughts: Compared to Chun's quote to Ed in SFV, "You were a member of Shadaloo? Are they still active?", I feel Chun has grown a lot more trusting and open in her mature years. I think what I find most interesting about this quote in particular is that Chun-Li offers to help, but doesn't necessarily offer herself to actively seek and fight off remaining Shadaloo remnants. 

I think the kind of help she's offering could range from shelter and safe haven in her own Chinatown community, or maybe she could refer them to Cammy and how she's helped the dolls achieve somewhat of a normal life post-ASF.  I think this is a good quote for her, fits with her character. And it fits with how I'd imagine Chun and Ed were to interact if they were to meet in canon.

I do find it interesting if Ed were indeed to become Bison's successor. With all the pain and hurt Bison and Shadaloo has caused CHun-Li in the past, I wonder how hostile she'd be if Ed were to turn to the dark side. Or if she'd still be compassionate for him, knowing that Ed and M. Bison are two different entities, and Ed's fighting off M. Bison just as hard.

 

 

Ed to Chun-Li: "I’m sure you’re enjoying the slow life, but there’s still work to do out there."

 

Thoughts: Interestingly enough, this takes me back to Chun-Li's SF6 story mode, where Juri teases Chun-Li that despite M. Bison's death, the danger threat still looms. Most likely, both are refering to the remnants of Shadaloo, and how they are trying to bring the syndicate back, but with a new host with Ed. I think Ed says this to Chun as a warning that eventually, the remnants will grow stronger, or Ed's body can no longer fight off the psycho power in him, allowing M. Bison to fully take over.

I think as this relates to Chun's quote, I think Chun is content with her new life in Metro City for now. It is a semi-retirement anyways. And while things are still calm, there is no reason for her to put herself in harms way, especially when she has her community and Li-Fen to take care of. But I'm interested in seeing what develops.

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Ed Win Quotes

 

Ed to Jamie: "Maybe you need to know the whole story before you lose your cool, y’know?"

 

Jamie to Ed: “You look like you’re dealin’ with a lot. Don’t be afraid to reach out for help, y’know?


 

Ed to Luke: “I don’t have time to play games! You can’t stay a kid forever.”

 

Luke to Ed: “You seem mad. Swing by again and we’ll play some games to cool you down.”

 

 

Ed to Manon: “Sorry, the beauty of ballet is totally lost on me.”

 

Manon to Ed: “Perhaps you’ve mistaken brute force for strength? What a crude way of thinking...”

 

 

Ed to Kimberly: “With half-baked moves like that, I’m not surprised you haven’t gotten far.”

 

Kimberly to Ed: “You’re part of Shadaloo? A test subject!? Just how far does this rabbit hole go!?”

 

 

Ed to Marisa: “Gotta admit, your fists are formidable. Still, they’re not up to snuff with mine.”

 

Marisa to Ed: “I thought you were just a kid, but you definitely pack a punch!”

 

 

Ed to Lily: “Spirits? You a fortune teller too? Yeah, I think I’m all good on that front.”

 

Lily to Ed: “I can sense something else within you. But...it does not appear to be a spirit.”

 

 

Ed to JP: “No matter what you’re planning, you better believe that I’m gonna stop ya!”

 

JP to Ed: “Your power was given to you by Lord Bison, was it not? It’d be rude to think otherwise.”

 

 

Ed to Juri: “We get it, you’re “twisted”, but would you stop with the freakin’ twirling already!?”

 

Juri to Ed: “The test subject goober!? I hate you and that power of yours!”

 

 

Ed to Dee Jay: “Heh, you looked like you were having a good time. You’re weird, but I dig it.”

 

Dee Jay to Ed: “Haha, you’ve got some energy! Just take it easy though mon!”

 

 

Ed to Cammy: “Still chasing after Shadaloo, huh? Well, I’ve got nothing to do with ‘em now.”

 

Cammy to Ed: “Let’s make one thing clear. Freeing those test subjects is my job, not yours.”

 

 

Ed to Ryu: “A path, huh...I guess I’ve got mine picked out.”

 

Ryu to Ed: “I see. You believe your fist will carve a path forward for you.”

 

 

Ed to Honda: “Man, cut that hugging crap out already! It’s freakin’ suffocating!”

 

Honda to Ed: “Sumo demands ya steel yer will, not just yer body! It’d do wonders for ya!”

 

 

Ed to Blanka: “Sorry, but my gorilla buddy is way more of a beast than you’ll ever be.”

 

Blanka to Ed: “You’re friends with a gorilla? I got lots of monkey friends in the jungle!”

 

 

Ed to Guile: “I hate Shadaloo’s guts, but self-righteous guys like you make me sick too.”

 

Guile to Ed: “Your power has connections to Bison, and that means I can’t let you out of my sight.”

 

 

Ed to Ken: “So, you’ve got beef with that JP guy? Cool story, but not my problem!”

 

Ken to Ed: “I don’t know what’s going on, but I do know that anyone with your kind of power is bad news.”

 

 

Ed to Chun-Li: “I’m sure you’re enjoying the slow life, but there’s still work to do out there.”

 

Chun-Li to Ed: “If you want Shadaloo out of your life, then I’ll help. You can trust me.”

 

 

Ed to Zangief: “If muscle size is all that matters, my gorilla friend’s got you beat.”

 

Zangief to Ed: “A few hours of weight training and the serotonin release will rid you of your agitation!”

 

 

Ed to Dhalsim: “Sorry monk, but I don’t have any use for your teachings.”

 

Dhalsim to Ed: “Reflecting on your circumstances is admirable. However, take care not to stray from your path.”

 

 

Ed to Rashid: “You just wanted to test your strength? Must be nice to have that much free time!”

 

Rashid to Ed: “I also lost a friend thanks to Shadaloo. When it comes to them, I’m always serious.”

 

 

Ed to AKI: “You and your poison remind me of another loser from my past...”

 

AKI to Ed: “One of the experimental subjects, I see. This will make for a fascinating case study.”

 

 

Ed to Ed: “We’re going to live our lives our way, and no one’s going to stop us!”

 

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4 hours ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

Did Falke and Ed just have a baby between SFV and SF6 ?

I think it might just be a baby they found in one of the labs.

 

They have monkeys and dolphins.  A baby isn't impossible.

 

4 hours ago, Dracu said:

Ed's redesgined Neo-Shadaloo uniform looks much better too

Or that's just the visual effect of actually, ya know, wearing the sleeves.

 

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7 hours ago, Lord_Vega said:

 

Is anyone following what this Neo Shadaloo thing is all about? Is it a movement that Ed started or is it something that the remaining Shadaloo followers are trying to create? To me it sounds like it’s both. 

 

Its sounds like JP coined the name up for him, or was he just referring to what Ed calls his faction?  Do the Shadaloo remnants want Ed to be their leader to continue Bison’s work? The Shadaloo goons mention Neo Shadaloo like it’s the next upcoming rise of old Shadaloo but Ed doesn’t see it that way. 

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24 minutes ago, bakfromon said:

Is anyone following what this Neo Shadaloo thing is all about?

Post SF5, Ed and Crew started rolling up on Shadaloo bases to kick ass and take names. While doing so, others started referring to them as a 'Neo Shadaloo' likely because they seemed to be snatching up Shadaloo assets (though in reality they were rescuing those living assets). That name spread to the point that Shadaloo remnants started calling THEMSELVES Neo-Shadaloo and are the faction looking to make Ed their leader.

 

Basically, Ed didn't care what he was called and got labeled 'Neo Shadaloo' and that 'brand' caught on amongst radicals that believe Ed could be the 2nd coming of Bison and they now want to make it true even if they have to force Ed into it. Ed, true to form, could give a damn less and if people want to call him Neo Shadaloo then that's fine with him because he'll punch in the face of anyone that tries to mess with him or his people.

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Wow, shitty in terms of contents to unlock, but lot to talk about

 

In super random order

 

- We finally got a name for knife guy, Cypher.

They made him do a DBZ fusion with Afro Samurai, but i'm ok with it as SFV one had kinda light hair and we don't need all of them to be blond lol

 

- Apparently Dobberman power was stolen studying an indian master, but rather than Dhalsim i think they mean Dr. Gulabjamun

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- For the child i agree with @DarthEnderXmost easy guess is baby was another subject they was experimenting on, with Falke holding it as she's the only woman of the group so would fit as motherly figure.

Interesting part about the child is that seems to have PP telekinesis, another specific PP ability after the 4 we saw already, made me thnk he's 5th to receive one of Bison's "gifts"

 

- Baba/Gorilla gift have me bit confused, in theory super intellect is one of Bison traits, but we never seen him do the genius scientist shit, he ever looked like he had to rely on other scientists to build and explain him stuff, while often he just looked the typical army villain who don't want listen and just push them to work harder/faster.

But after all we have Urien who's canon confirmed brilliant scientist who personally made up bunch of theories and then let his scientists develop stuff based on his intuitions, so maybe Bison was similar case

 

- Maybe i'm missing some more accurate anime reference, but did bit of search, seems there's an anime dolphin with psychic powers called Ikyugo in a series about psychic powers

So guess this guy may have been their inspiration?

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https://zettaikarenchildren.fandom.com/wiki/Ikyūgō

Apparently his powers are precognition and telepathy

Wich make me think if PP and SP are two faces of same coin sharing similar powers (i know we don't all agree on thiswe talked it not long ago), PP may at least have some precognition potential since we know SP have it

Btw the dolphin feels cool pick for Shadaloo experiments, considering how evolved and mysterious their brain still is to us.

 

- Capcom seem's to be unable to chose if Ed had parents or was totally lab made, just yesterday i seen his SFV story where Ed is sure to be made in lab (literally say it), today in SF6 i see him question if he had parents lol

It's also given a new(?) info on one of Shadaloo methods to get subjects, apparently they would tell families the child needs special cures for some medical condition, then do instead their experiments

 

- I'm kinda confused about Dolls destiny thought they were free after Bison's destruction but apparently afterward they was doing same shit even wearing shadaloo uniform, part that make me most skeptic about that piece is even Decapre is there, when in theory should have been saved by Cammy... it's hard even consider it retcon considering seems conflict even with SF6 Cammy info

 

- Apparently "Neo Shadaloo" name was given them by others, and Ed basically just "accepted" that as at that point his group was known with that name

Also as @YagamiFiresaid the shadaloo wannabes that seek to get Ed call themselves like that

 

-We was guessing if ASF base was in Germany, i'm not sure if is or not, but now i believe Ed and Falke grew in two totally different bases: Ed in ASF one, wich left and then found Falke's one (in Germany) where he free her.

Considering Falke is the very first he found guess possible also first base was in Germany or not far from it.

Thanks to @biachunlipost we learned that Ed does'nt know german very well, but that does'nt hep much considering he grew talking mostly to Rog

 

-Cool to see Rog still is friend with Ed... was kinda "spoiled" by same @biachunlipost where we knew they keept in touch, but still cool see it in the artwork, mostly because Ed leaving Rog to walk his own path was one of the two SFV story scenes totally ripped from Berserk, and in Berserk it resulted into dramatic end of friendship (and lot of other apocalyptic shit lol)

Cool to see Rog just accepted Ed became a man free to chose his path and the bond survived, because was rare case of SF making Rog interesting beyond being SF Mike Tyson

 

At same time could also hint Ed himself allowed him to get close because now believe to have grown strong enough to not being consumed by Bison (and so to not be a danger for Rog)

 

- Seems JP original plan could have been return to work under Bison, i mean give the throne to Ed knowing will transform into Bison.

Possible was'nt even a plan of JP, but still made up by Bison as saving-ass card... now that i think about it we never talked much about how JP could have got his PP after SF6 launch.

At first i was hoping he was one of Bison's fellow disciples (mostly hoping Capcom had the balls to not do him a Bison minion lol) , but later we learned it's not possible as he just got PP in recent times.

Another thing is that while Ed, Falke etc got the gifts split one by one, for whatever reason JP got (from Bison or took himself?)  all Bison's abilities... surely to lesser extent (we learned he's not THAT strong) but still he can do all tricks of Ed, Falke, Chyper and Baba

Make me think his apparent disgust for fighting/violence made him good candidate that could ignore PP push to seek power and stick to the plan, but fun thing is we seen JP is starting to like it too the more his PP grow, so maybe he will go "fuck the plan" and seek power as well (only to be squashed by eventual Bison returns because capcom have no testicles)

 

- Ed base moveset (for specials i used lot else) is awesomeness on my Dudley 🤩

 

- Bit pissed we did'nt got to see NS base with all freaks ingame, would have been one of Ed's coolest things

 

- Damn it Capcom adding motoGP style racing suit that could have been perfection to complete my Rosso but 3 colors out 3 were pure crap, completely useless 😭

 

6 hours ago, YagamiFire said:

New Nayshall mission after leveling Ed gives the Shadaloo uniform for create-a-character.

Yeah, but sadly seems we will have to wait even more to complete the set (pants/boots still missing)

Thought Ed would have got the new stage as final location with merchant selling it, but we seen he's just in MC subway

 

Overall this have been most poor "world expansion" update of WTM, just 1 new item did'nt even gave us access to new stage... in all these months could have thought it better, specially considering how much stuff already done and just locked they have

 

Well, at least in 3 days we get new FPass, let's hope that's is'nt crap lol

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6 hours ago, YagamiFire said:

Post SF5, Ed and Crew started rolling up on Shadaloo bases to kick ass and take names. While doing so, others started referring to them as a 'Neo Shadaloo' likely because they seemed to be snatching up Shadaloo assets (though in reality they were rescuing those living assets). That name spread to the point that Shadaloo remnants started calling THEMSELVES Neo-Shadaloo and are the faction looking to make Ed their leader.

 

Basically, Ed didn't care what he was called and got labeled 'Neo Shadaloo' and that 'brand' caught on amongst radicals that believe Ed could be the 2nd coming of Bison and they now want to make it true even if they have to force Ed into it. Ed, true to form, could give a damn less and if people want to call him Neo Shadaloo then that's fine with him because he'll punch in the face of anyone that tries to mess with him or his people.

The whole Neo Shadaloo narrative doesn’t seem very fleshed out. It almost seems like theirs two factions that are actively working against each other. 
 

You have Ed’s faction which is trying to shut down old Shadaloo operations and free the possible abductees which have been experimented on with Psycho Power.  Then you have another faction that aligns with the old Shadaloo motives and is kidnapping individuals like Bosch and experimenting on them with Psycho Power.  
 

For how many for how ever many Shadaloo abductees Ed’s faction can save there will be a counter faction which is abducting more people to replace the ones set free.
 

They’re both claiming to be Neo Shadaloo, so is Ed’s Neo Shadaloo attempting to free the abductees of former Shadaloo only to have the former Shadaloo members take Ed’s faction name and start abducting other people?

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Random Thoughts after completing all of Ed's WT and Arcade Mode story

  • First and foremost, I have MUCH more respect for him as a character, and am even more impressed with his inclusion into SF6. One of SF6's concepts with returning characters is aging them up and maturing them. And Ed went from a spunky, hot-headed, emo boy in 5, to a respected, confident, acknowledged leader in SF6. The last artwork you unlock of him in his WTM with him leading Neo-Shadaloo and looking like a real "young commander" is easily my favorite artwork of Ed that exists.
     
  • For as much bad things Shadaloo has done in the past, part of me loves that Ed doesn't depict Balrog as a bad person. Yeah he's given him many a rough and tough lessons. But I think what struck me the most is that Balrog was the first to see Ed as a person instead of an experiment. Balrog, of all people. I know Ed had to leave the nest from Balrog to grow up, become a man, and to become stronger. But Ed never showed any sign of hatred for the man who effectively raised him and taught him how to box. And I guess that's why Ed's character story from SFV still continues to be one of my favorite character stories from that game, because we get to see a side of Balrog that we've never seen, nor we thought he had.
     
  • I'll get to the individuals of Neo-Shadaloo later. But I have a strong feeling that some more Neo-Shadaloo members will make it to the playable roster eventually. I feel their story has now become much more intriguing, now that most of the Nayshall plot has been settled, and many of the WW fighters are happiliy living their new lives.
    I think out of all of them, Falke and Baba Mwalimu might be the most likely to become playable. What I'm worried about is that many of the new or returning fighters that will come from SF6 will be from existing factions or entities: like Neo Shadaloo, or Metro City. And I personally would like to see Capcom try more original characters.
     
  • Still wondering WHOSE BABY DIS IS???
    r/StreetFighter - Whose baby is this? Falke and Ed’s? Psycho powered baby?

     
  • Baba Mwalimu is essentially Overwatch's Winston. But the monkey, if I'm not mistaken, is Kiki, Santamu's (former Shadaloo doll) pet money. I think I remembered Kiki following Ed and Balrog post-ASF. So I was wondering if it grew up to be the gorilla of Neo-Shadaloo or not. But Kiki is still alive and well and looks like serving Ed and his crew nicely. 

    Character Guide 085: Santamu | The Character Guides | Activity Reports | CAPCOM:Shadaloo C.R.I.

    I think if Baba Mwalimu does become playable in the future, I think he'll play similarly to Gorilla Grodd from Injustice, but I think Baba will have Kiki as an assist to possibly pester and harass their Opp while baba sets them up for big damaging combos or command grabs.
     
  • Cypher and Doberman don't really intrigue me that much. Cypher never looked too interesting, and I was always more curious about Baba in the first Neo-Shadaloo artwork we've seen, compared to Cypher. And Doberman looks a little too... babyfaced? For a lack of a better word.  Maybe the "gentle giant" of the crew? 
    But if there is one neo-shadaloo member that's got me even more intrigued and wanting more information about, it's the freaking dolphin!

     
  • Just wanted to get this nagging feeling in the back of my mind out of the way. It seems that most of the story is setting up for the return of M. Bison, if not in physical form, than as another host (like Ed). I am personally rooting against the former (many apologies to our lord Daemos, wherever he is). I feel that if that happens, M. Bison will be the absolute final character of the SF6 roster, which would set up the next plot for SF7.
    But if he were to come back, I much prefer taking the Ed story route, and have Ed to maintain control of his weakening body against the growing psycho power and M. Bison's control. I feel that would be the best way to at least have M. Bison come back without really bringing him back. I like seeing the struggle, especially seeing Ed's body deteriorating, which makes me feel this is inevitably gonna end up being a losing battle. Maybe a future Ed in SF7 can have a "activation" form where  M. Bison takes total control, ala Dark Pheonix in MVC3.
     
  • Lastly, Every new stage will eventually have a master to correlate with that stage. It took a while for the China stage to be added in WTM. But it eventually served to be the meeting hub for AKI.
    Now I'm curious, which character will eventually will we meet up to train with in WTM for the new Shadaloo Ruined Lab stage? I doubt it'd be anyone from Neo-Shadaloo. And I don't think any of the former Shadaloo generals will likely have that hub as a meeting ground. And I think M. Bison will either miss the cut, or be the last confirmed character, so that may take a while. So which SF candidate would fit the Ruined Lab and have that be the meeting hub and training ground, since it wasn't Ed?
    I'm thinking it'll be either Seth, C. Viper, or some other character related to both Shadaloo and SIN.
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5 hours ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

Still wondering WHOSE BABY DIS IS???

No reason to believe he "must" have parents playing a role, he could be just a baby that Shadaloo was experimenting on and now that got rescued by Neo Shadaloo they're taking special care of him because despite special powers (seem PP telekinesis based on other artwork) he's still just a baby that needs people, so we see Falke behaving motherly and Baba looking like an happy uncle lol

 

One fun thing would be if baby will end up be one of Bison bodies (like SF2, SFA or SF4/V) that got pulled out from the growth capsule before growing, dark hair and tanned skin kinda match (of course may be by coincidence lol)

i-would-love-to-see-falke-as-a-dlc-chara

 

This would make him a potential easy host if Ed indeed grew strong enough to prevent being possessed, wonder how Ed/NS would react if the threat come from the baby they adopted

 

5 hours ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

 

Baba Mwalimu is essentially Overwatch's Winston. But the monkey, if I'm not mistaken, is Kiki, Santamu's (former Shadaloo doll) pet money. I think I remembered Kiki following Ed and Balrog post-ASF. So I was wondering if it grew up to be the gorilla of Neo-Shadaloo or not. But Kiki is still alive and well and looks like serving Ed and his crew nicely.

 

You're correct it's same monkey that once was Santamu's pet

It's a golden lion tamarin, no idea if adult already or not but will never grow much more than that, pretty small animal.

Baba is a gorilla, considering Ed describe him as larger than Zangief (and old SFV old artwork had it fucking gigantic in a size comparision piece*) would say the largest subspecies, eastern lowland gorilla

 

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5 hours ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

 And Doberman looks a little too... babyfaced? For a lack of a better word.  Maybe the "gentle giant" of the crew?

Dobberman have "another face" as he can compress his own body changing look (and abilities)... these two are same guy

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Guess would be Zeku-like character (as have two different forms to switch) if ever become playable(idoubt)

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2 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

I'll be honest...ALL of Neo Shadaloo suck.

 

Ed and Falke are boring, and the rest are fucking corny.


To be fair apparently Ed hates Neo Shadaloo too…He hates them following him all over the place even though all he wears is Neo Shadaloo branded motifs….Then again those aren’t his Neo Shadaloo members. 
 

No Falke WT cameo either like Fang or Azam. 

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4 hours ago, Dracu said:

Yeah, screw Doberman. If you want to give Ed his playable 3 Kings, go with Cypher and Baba all the way.

Tbh i will be fine with Cypher and Baba who will offer great variety*, to me is Falke that would be fucking redundant... she was'nt that charismatic/popular, too visually repetition of Ed and we have a la canne user with psycho powers already lol

 

Indeed something that surprised me is no other female beside Falke, specially considering Falke was kinda mediocre addition and generated no fanbase, Neo Shadaloo in theory give them lot of creative freedom.

There was the robot girl in SFV

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but in SF6 there's no hint of her

There was also the fat hawaian girl that despite being someway interesting/curious choice (i even made her in creation) have no chance in hell to be DLC material, just don't fit audience's waifu needs

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*Cypher as pure knife user would be new (and cool for character creation), and teleport as power seems something that would make sense for a vicious opponent

Wish they give him stronger cultural theme (i don't care they race-changed him, but previous one had caucasus area/cossack vibes wich gave him bit of direction, would like they build bit something for the new one too)

 

Baba i know would be loved or hated kind of thing, personally would not have problem with it and would fill the "giant" slot, even if i would still prefer Hugo to fill it

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