Sonero Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: Baiken counter is 1-frame!? I may have to start playing some Strive. Its only active for 6 frames though. So its harder to use than you'd think it would be. on the plus side, if you block Ky's stun dipper, you can counter the second part for free. Which makes me think that there might be some other multihit specials you can blow up with it. Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Sonero said: Its only active for 6 frames though. So its harder to use than you'd think it would be. on the plus side, if you block Ky's stun dipper, you can counter the second part for free. Which makes me think that there might be some other multihit specials you can blow up with it. I'll take the lower active frames over the three way guess I had to do with Gouken and Kolin. Edited January 28, 2022 by Darc_Requiem Volt 1 Quote Link to comment
BornWinner Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Baiken’s rope stays on the characters even during their victory poses. The rope is attached differently by character. Which leads to this happening if Goldlewis wins. Volt, Phantom_Miria, HD-Man and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Double perfected another person who didn't know what he was doing in the Baiken mirror. He got me in the first 3 games, then I went on a 5-0 run on him. I'm the best baiken. 😤 Phantom_Miria and Darc_Requiem 2 Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Baiken without the guard cancels is lame as fuck. She doesn't feel as fun without them. Quote Link to comment
Yiceman Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Tried some Baiken, seems alright. Back to Jack-o. I'm still struggling with some basic things in this game. How the hell do you wakeup overdrive regularly? Specifically with those goofy half-circle back - forward commands. I've gotten the timing right like 3 times in 30 minutes. Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Practice? Sometimes you miss it and you die. Make sure you're getting the whole motion in. Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Yiceman said: Tried some Baiken, seems alright. Back to Jack-o. I'm still struggling with some basic things in this game. How the hell do you wakeup overdrive regularly? Specifically with those goofy half-circle back - forward commands. I've gotten the timing right like 3 times in 30 minutes. Try a 360 for that motion, forward around to forward again. It feels much more natural. Reversal window is like 4f and that's after arcsys widened it. Yiceman 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) We got multiple game freeze bugs Also variable frame data Edited January 30, 2022 by Pair of Rooks Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 The quality of this artwork is insane. Abbachio, BornWinner and Phantom_Miria 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Shahenzan and BornWinner 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Bugfix patch landed: https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-1494/ Shahenzan and BornWinner 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Shahenzan Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Sonero said: Good old lk letting people know Nago is honest and beatable Meanwhile I had no idea strive had an arcade port or that it was this bad holy shit lol No surprise jp arcades are in the grave if this is what they're giving them BornWinner 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 LMAO even the theme is lagging. Hoooooooooooooooooooooolyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. 😂 Volt 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 16 hours ago, Sonero said: Coulda just titled the vid "older white man discovers he actually IS privileged" and saved me 8 minutes of my life. 😂 Thumbnail is pure bait, it's a Goldlewis vid. Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Volt and BornWinner 2 Quote Link to comment
Shahenzan Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) https://www.twitch.tv/arcsystemworksu Some of arcrevo west today, don't know if they're doing the whole tournament or just up to top 8 Edited February 6, 2022 by Shahenzan Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Matchup Games Win rate (raw) Win rate (rating adjusted) May 15 67% 73% I-No 32 59% 63% Zato-1 25 52% 49% Nagoriyuki 22 50% 47% Leo 6 50% 37% Baiken 62 45% 40% Chipp 9 44% 61% Millia 14 43% 58% Potemkin 22 41% 67% Faust 15 40% 60% Sol 25 40% 58% Happy Chaos 10 40% 39% Goldlewis 13 38% 65% Anji 36 36% 53% Jack-O' 17 35% 59% Axl 6 33% 82% Giovanna 12 33% 49% Ky 31 29% 38% Ramlethal 20 20% 51% God damn do I suck at this game. Numbers are just for year 2022, in which I haven't played much, but still. Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 ArcRevo Japan/Korea starts at 8pm PST tonight! Shahenzan, BornWinner, Phantom_Miria and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 King Ky is gonna get it done this weekend. Put a 👑 for the homie. Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/11/2022 at 2:48 PM, Sonero said: King Ky is gonna get it done this weekend. Put a 👑 for the homie. 4 Ky's were in top 32, and he was the most picked character there (tied with Sol). None of them made top 8. Only Churara made 9th. 2 Gios were in top 32. Both are in top 8. Can you please tell me again all the reasons Ky is a good character? I need some @Sonerobrand copium™️ cause the off-the-shelf stuff just ain't doing it. Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 BornWinner 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 13 hours ago, Pair of Rooks said: 4 Ky's were in top 32, and he was the most picked character there (tied with Sol). None of them made top 8. Only Churara made 9th. 2 Gios were in top 32. Both are in top 8. So more Kys made it to top 32 (showing they are better against the field) but only 2 gios did. None got into top 8 where things get more condenced. Sounds like the players dropped the ball, no the king. Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 @Shahenzan Debmolla is dropping gems about what Xrd was really like too: BornWinner 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I watched the HC vid a few days ago and tried to follow the advice. Alas, my reactions aren't up to snuff even to block full screen zoning. Otoh his advice was basically FD on reaction + don't jump cause of the extra knockback oB, eventually resources are consumed. I low-key dislike his videos cause he takes forever to make a point. Quote Link to comment
Shahenzan Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On 2/15/2022 at 7:57 AM, Sonero said: @Shahenzan Debmolla is dropping gems about what Xrd was really like too: Xrd 1.0 was some truly painful shit yrc and tech buttons never stopped being annoying in that game either Quote Link to comment
ZioSerpe Posted February 21, 2022 Author Share Posted February 21, 2022 it is hard to decide between more strive and KoFXV as a game to focus on. I tried and play Baiken for a bit, I like her ok but it doesn't give me that "I can do a lot with this character" vibe. Probably gonna stick with Jack'o and wait for Jam. Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Best match up chart: Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted March 6, 2022 Share Posted March 6, 2022 Anyone try out the combo recipe thing? I tried it a bit and... I'm not the biggest fan. The UI navigation is horrible, and I'm unclear on how this is much different than YouTube. Like, I tried an a2a combo, it mostly didn't work, so... I'm just as at a loss as if I'd seen it on YouTube... but without a comment section to pick up the slack. YouTube also has better UI, being a mouse and all, plus with slowdown options that if Strives thingy has I can't find it. I can't even "download" a combo I'd like to keep except by exiting and searching the internet again. How tf do you put the "save for later" option on the wrong fucking menu? And then make some menus nav by dpad but others nav by shoulder buttons? Wtfffff???? Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Oh yeah, my first DLC purchase has arrived. Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Pretty sure he'll have PRC unblockables with the overhead special. Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sonero said: Pretty sure he'll have PRC unblockables with the overhead special. There's a system mechanic where if a low and an overhead occur at the same time the latter is changed to a mid. In older games it had to be on same frame so it didn't matter, but I believe it's like a 5f window now? Zato already has a PRC unblockable with Pierce RC command-grab, but no matter what happens there's no combo after, it's just a single attack. Zato's unblockable with meaty drill + command overhead was removed -- drill hits mid now, always. So I really doubt Test will have cheap stuff there. Either no unblockable, or if so, you get nothing of consequence off of it for the meter you just spent. Frame data for that special overhead is 28f startup. 24(?) for the low. We want to know if his go-nowhere teleport will spotdodge. Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pair of Rooks said: There's a system mechanic where if a low and an overhead occur at the same time the latter is changed to a mid. In older games it had to be on same frame so it didn't matter, but I believe it's like a 5f window now? That's skullgirls, not this game. At least I've never heard of it being here. 7 minutes ago, Pair of Rooks said: Zato already has a PRC unblockable with Pierce RC command-grab, but no matter what happens there's no combo after, it's just a single attack. Look if we're gonna start calling landing a command grab the same as hitting people with an unblockable, we're just gonna have a hard time communicating. Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sonero said: That's skullgirls, not this game. At least I've never heard of it being here. Look if we're gonna start calling landing a command grab the same as hitting people with an unblockable, we're just gonna have a hard time communicating. I'm trying to find the vid, but my watch history is so polluted with the rest of the fam's copious videos it's hard. It included Zato fucking up Kliff. Command grabs can be part of unblockable setups. C-Grabs lose to jumps, backdashes, many buttons, but Pierce catches all those and the c.grab catches DPs and blocks. What else to call it? Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I thought this was pretty cool. BornWinner, Pair of Rooks and Phantom_Miria 1 2 Quote Link to comment
ZioSerpe Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 Crossplay is the best DLC character, now ya'll can't hide anymore Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Shahenzan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 18 hours ago, Pair of Rooks said: There's a system mechanic where if a low and an overhead occur at the same time the latter is changed to a mid. In older games it had to be on same frame so it didn't matter, but I believe it's like a 5f window now? ArcSys games usually have a thing going where if a low and overhead hit on the same frame one attack is determined by some arbitrary factor to hit first and then the second one would hit. In xrd you could TECHNICALLY block high/low same frame setups by correctly choosing high or low then alternating guard within one frame, but it is a total guess and really difficult to do. Since one had to hit first, in xrd you could hard commit to blitz high or low to cut out having to alternate guard but that is ofc not here. This system has been consistent in several games now, and I guess the best way to deal with it in strive would be hard guess high/low then immediately YRC assuming you guessed right. That said, I don't think this testament will have unblockables Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Thx. I tried hard to find that video that said it, but I cannot find it. It was obv made by a GG boomer but it wasn't the usual content creators so I'm thinking it was some no-name person whom I found through a full day of discord surfing. 😞 Old man vs internet is a bad matchup. ___ Any patch predictions, gang? 🙂 Edited March 22, 2022 by Pair of Rooks Quote Link to comment
ZioSerpe Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 Fanny for S2 anyone? Phantom_Miria 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 7 hours ago, ZioSerpe said: Fanny for S2 anyone? Oh hell no. Go play Skullgirls. I'm interested in Asuka/That Man, ABA, Kliff, Jam, and Sin. Zappa... nah too weird. Kliff and Sin wield a long weapon, Jam was SF4 Juri before Juri, Asuka is important for story reasons and is probably a zoning nerd so yeah. ABA is a fucked up redhead. That's as much fan service as you'll get from me. IDK it's a weird question cause a character changes so much when brought over to Strive I'm not sure the question even means anything. If you wanted Testament, did you get Testament or someone else with his name? Quote Link to comment
ZioSerpe Posted March 25, 2022 Author Share Posted March 25, 2022 I'd kinda like to the forgotten weird ass characters appear aventually, Fanny, Izuna, Leopoldon. Not all at once, but little by little over multiple seasons Phantom_Miria 1 Quote Link to comment
Shahenzan Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-1532/ Patch notes gg boys, and those of us who expected nothing were right to do so lol Pair of Rooks and BornWinner 1 1 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Haven't been paying much attention to this game since Goldlewis came out but I did catch the end of NLBC a few days ago. This guy named Eddventure was using Jack O and he was locking people down in the corner and they couldn't escape. Not sure how he was doing it but it kinda looked sick, the wall wasn't breaking or anything. Shit looked like old guilty gear lol. Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Think Eddventure might be the best Jack-O in the US. In the right hands Jack-O is an issue and a half. Testament looks interesting so far. The tools aren't very obvious other than the grave reaper, throw crow sequence. But the tools seem to be there to cut people off from escaping or moving at you. HeavensCloud 1 Quote Link to comment
ZioSerpe Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 6 hours ago, HeavensCloud said: Haven't been paying much attention to this game since Goldlewis came out but I did catch the end of NLBC a few days ago. This guy named Eddventure was using Jack O and he was locking people down in the corner and they couldn't escape. Not sure how he was doing it but it kinda looked sick, the wall wasn't breaking or anything. Shit looked like old guilty gear lol. you just need 50 and no burst on the opponent. Any 5HS, 2HS , 236K cancelled into cheer servant on HS (the red buff super) become plus on block. So if you have a servant down you can start an infinite blockstring that can only be interrupted by burst, YRC and invincible reversal, but you can use a reversal safe string if needed. If you have 2 minions down already or enough meter to do back to back supers you are guaranteed to max the opponent's risk. The string will drain all the opponent's meter on FD and if they don't FD the chip damage is insane. Add to that that once you crank the risk to max you get a guaranteed high/low mixup between 2K and 5D that leads to a full damage combo because of the properties of the max RISC counter hit. Out of a throw in the corner you're guaranteed a gapless 2 servant blockstring, in any other situation with only 1 servant down and cheer super being used they might try to sneak in a second summon servant during the blockstring, which is your only way out if don't have burst and meter for YRC, but first of all, they need to go for it in the first place, and second the gap can happen at different points, sometimes being a very small gap. That's why you see some Jack'o players (Eddventure being one) always doing summon servant into immediate 5P off a corner throw, while in itself it's not a good move, because you waste 1 hit on your servant when you don't need to, you do guarantee yourself a second summon of servant while also keeping your turn. What I don't like is that Edd seems to autopilot into corner throw>servant>5P even if he has no intentions of setting up a second servant. Pair of Rooks and HeavensCloud 2 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Shakunetsu and Pair of Rooks 2 Quote Link to comment
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