Pair of Rooks Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 6 hours ago, Sonero said: After the latest changes to Strive... Holy shit should devs take more time to shit up a game with wack mechanics because it gives them belly laughs. It honestly makes me think less of devs when they put insanely questionable stuff in their games. Now why would you say this about our Lord and savior Season 3? 😭 Jocelot 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Pair of Rooks said: Now why would you say this about our Lord and savior Season 3? 😭 I keep finding FG devs to be very lackadaisical with balance. The Wild Assault change in Strive was for the worse. But now there's basically no way to play the game I actually liked for 2 years before this shit. Its awful. I really wish devs took balancing more seriously. Unfortunately for ASW, they love just throwing shit out there and then saying: "we hope you have fun exploring these new mechanics". Brother its a garbage ass mechanic. Take it back. 😡 Dracu and Vhozite 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I genuinely do not think devs aim for real balance, at least not in the colloquial sense. It seems to be me they start with an idea for what they want to do (regardless of how healthy it is) and work backwards to make it passable. Illwill88 and Pair of Rooks 2 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 20 hours ago, Sonero said: I keep finding FG devs to be very lackadaisical with balance. The Wild Assault change in Strive was for the worse. But now there's basically no way to play the game I actually liked for 2 years before this shit. Its awful. I really wish devs took balancing more seriously. Unfortunately for ASW, they love just throwing shit out there and then saying: "we hope you have fun exploring these new mechanics". Brother its a garbage ass mechanic. Take it back. 😡 Not sure why devs are doing this but SNK just shoehorned a new mechanic into KOF XV called Advanced Strike and apparently nobody actually wants it. The game is already heavy on the aggression and they added another mechanic that buffs offense? Weird. Edited January 26 by HeavensCloud Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 They're all just adding Drive Rush, aren't they? Makes my character rise 2 tiers so I'm ok with that. 🙃 Re: balance, there's a law of diminishing returns on devs spending budget on balance. As long as balance is playable then there's no real benefit to spending the $$$ trying harder, and some benefit to allowing some things to be out of balance because it gives the playerbase something to look forward to - balance patch day. Patch day is a big day for players, and if your game somehow is perfectly balanced then a patch would only make it worse. Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) I think in SF we got bunch of devs statements already to hint that not only we will never get "perfect balance" but they will not try either, they just want a food chain built in a way that please them (and in their mind, the audience) Ryu claimed to be used as balancement standard or something had him mediocre for most of SFV live and started similar in SF6 Some claim it's better because he's so popular that if was stronger would be picked more, yet you have Ken who have similar popularity and tend to get better shit Akuma is strong because they (and some fanbase) have boner for Akuma, so Akuma have to be stronk. They even gave up the old idea of make him glass cannon with lower HP, just make him stronk because he's Akuma Zangief is like banned from being high tier. It's ok some characters are high tier, they're fine with it, but if is Zangief is a nono I guess also SF6 Luke being super strong (and i main him, i like MMA) was another intentional bullshit to try boost/shoehorn popularity of not so loved new protagonist And stuff like that And i'm not even counting the marketing fact that they may be inclined to make DLC chars on the stronger side because otherwise tiers bitches would say there's no reason to buy them lol I don't even wish to have some mythical perfect balanced game where every matchup is 5:5 * but them artificially chosing what deserve to be higher or lower feels very bullshit to me Imho correct way would simply be them taking chars (whoever they are) that clearly underperformed throught the year and make legit moves to make them more effective, same way pick the very few that clearly were above others and find a way to nerf them possibly without remove what make them fun... i don't want a non-tiers-whore Ken player that legit find his char fun to play style wise to end up with something boring, just find a way to make it no more overpowered * plus would be impossible have it for everybody, even with same chars involved a matchup at high pro level goes different from same clash done at my shit level of play Edited January 28 by CESTUS III Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) Just a reminder there's the Topanga Charity Cup for SF6 taking place right now with over 600 teams of 5 entering the competition, they're gathering the donations for and raising awareness about the relief efforts towards fixing the damages caused by the earthquake that took place in Japan recently Edited January 27 by -PVL93- elliephil, HeavensCloud, TWINBLADES and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Doctrine_Dark, JustBooming and Pair of Rooks 2 1 Quote Link to comment
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Phantom_Miria Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Darc_Requiem, BornWinner, Jocelot and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) Capcom needs to take off the clown shoes and let dude come to Capcom Cup X. Hurricane is right. Some countries have a long Visa process for entry into the US. They need to take this into account when determining the tournament order. Edited January 29 by Darc_Requiem Doctrine_Dark 1 Quote Link to comment
purbeast Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 The top 8 of Frosty Faustings was incredible. There was a decent variety of characters and just a lot of very close matches that were highly entertaining. Pair of Rooks, Darc_Requiem, HeavensCloud and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment
BornWinner Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Blanka players deserve the chair Psychopath behavior Bigtochiro, Darc_Requiem, Jocelot and 5 others 1 1 6 Quote Link to comment
Volta Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, BornWinner said: Blanka players deserve the chair Psychopath behavior The brother was simply preparing her for life in this harsh world, teaching her that people will not keep their promises. Somebody give this guy the Brother of the Year Award. Upstanding citizen, like all Blanka players 👍 Darc_Requiem, BornWinner, TWINBLADES and 5 others 4 1 3 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I tried out Chun-Li finally and it’s weird. On paper this character has everything I’d want (fun/unique combos, fireball, DP, long buttons), but actually using her idk she just doesn’t make it for me. Just doesn’t have that *it* factor for me. Guess I’ll just wait to see with Manon in S2. Doctrine_Dark, Pair of Rooks and TWINBLADES 2 1 Quote Link to comment
TWINBLADES Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I love SF6 but every fucking match is a fucking Ryu. Holy shit people have such a dog shit taste in fighters. Like god damn play fucking anyone else holy fucking shit please. I literally encounter 1 Sim every 250 matches and I’m actually not even kidding when I say that. I’m also contemplating if I should get Granblue first or T8. I’ve settled on maining Zafina because she looks like a Soul Calibur character with the claw hand and I miss Soul Calibur. The next few months are so front loaded with games. I’m playing the new Prince of Persia game and it’s incredible but now Person 3 is coming out and Relink and I still gotta finish Crises Core and I haven’t even touched any new fighting game and fucking Rebirth…. my wallet 😞 Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
purbeast Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I used to love Tekken back in like the tag days but it just got stale to me. I downloaded the Tekken 8 demo the other day and the game just is not for me. It feels slow and stubby and just not what I like in a fighter. Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Jocelot Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 22 hours ago, purbeast said: The top 8 of Frosty Faustings was incredible. There was a decent variety of characters and just a lot of very close matches that were highly entertaining. Jeah, it probably had the sickest grand finals with all the character switching. Honestly Punk's Luke might be the most interesting Luke I've seen, maybe because it's a bit less optimized compared to other Lukes or maybe because he played him like he plays Cammy lol. Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 @TWINBLADESThat's just SF in general. I got sick of seeing Ryu and Ken all the time in SF4 and SF5 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 The problem I have with Tekken is it's literally just the same game over and over with a fresh coat of paint. Tekken 8 is barely different from Tekken 7. That's one thing I love about SF, the games are all very different from one another. Darc_Requiem, Bigtochiro and Pair of Rooks 2 1 Quote Link to comment
purbeast Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 10 minutes ago, HeavensCloud said: The problem I have with Tekken is it's literally just the same game over and over with a fresh coat of paint. Tekken 8 is barely different from Tekken 7. That's one thing I love about SF, the games are all very different from one another. Yeah that is why it got stale to me. I played King and Paul and I could basically play them the same way in every iteration of Tekken I played. I also don't like the huge move lists. TWINBLADES and HeavensCloud 1 1 Quote Link to comment
TWINBLADES Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 No way were aren't getting the Ed trailer on Tuesday. No shot Capcom is saving Ed for Capcom Cup lmao JustBooming 1 Quote Link to comment
Dragonfave723 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, TWINBLADES said: No way were aren't getting the Ed trailer on Tuesday. No shot Capcom is saving Ed for Capcom Cup lmao Wednesday, maybe....? -PVL93-, JustBooming, Shakunetsu and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment
JustBooming Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) I'm interested to see Ed, and what it means for control systems. I also liked using the dickhead jerk in SFV, found him fun, though he was a jerk dickhead with a fancy little cap 2 hours ago, TWINBLADES said: No way were aren't getting the Ed trailer on Tuesday. No shot Capcom is saving Ed for Capcom Cup lmao The SFV Akuma "hint" with the banners unfurling, noise and light show at... was it Canada Cup?... was hype as fuck Edited January 30 by JustBooming Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0F5nQ-MbM0/?igsh=MTNoamh0em9pMHVuag== Darc_Requiem 1 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Vhozite said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0F5nQ-MbM0/?igsh=MTNoamh0em9pMHVuag== I'm surprised that didn't cause a Quitality 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 As usual click for full size MENAT JACK (will upgrade as soon we get actual camo pants) Bigtochiro, BornWinner, AriesWarlock and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Newly discovered Street Fighter 6 glitch nets more damage from stun combos Spoiler The basic idea here is that if this glitch is activated correctly, players will be able to get more damage out of their stun combos. Already, lab monsters are sharing combos that push the limits of what can be done and are finding the hardest hitting sequences that they can. In Street Fighter 6, in order to stun your opponent you'll have to wait for them to get into burnout (or force them into it yourself). Once they're burnt out, hitting them with a Drive Impact close to the corner will see them bounce off of the wall and enter into a stun state where they are completely vulnerable to an attack for several seconds. What's interesting about using Drive Impact in the corner is that you can hit it from up close or from further away, and the blow back from this attack can still cause the opponent to stagger all the way back and hit the wall. This is the foundation of the newly discovered glitch. Essentially, what players have now discovered is that you can hit a burnt out opponent with a Drive Impact from further out, and while they stagger back you actually have time to input another move before they touch the wall. From what we can see, if you perform certain actions at the exact same time that the opponent makes contact with the wall, you will get rid of the initial damage scaling that comes after a stun. To put it plainly, the first attack you land after stunning an opponent in Street Fighter 6 starts at 80% damage scaling — meaning you're dealing 80% of the damage the attack would normally do right out of the gate. Doing a combo after stun means you normally start at 80% damage, then continue scaling down from there. However, this new glitch makes it so that your first attack after the stun actually deals 100% of its damage and starts scaling down from there. Ultimately, you're getting quite a bit more damage out of combos in this situation now with this bug in play. The following Twitter clip from sakuyo13 demonstrates how this is all done and how it works. From what we've been seeing, it appears that jumping simultaneously with the opponent hitting the wall for the stun can consistently activate the glitch. Darc_Requiem, Volta, Jocelot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 That's cool tech but it will be lucky to make it to the next balance patch. It'll probably get patched before then. Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I labbed that yesterday and it was hard to set up. The spacing from the wall has to be perfect or you won't have the time to input a move to get the glitch. For sure it's worth going for if you can get it since starting the post stun combo with no scaling is a significant difference. Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Dragonfave723 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Justin Wong is making a SF6 reality show. Pair of Rooks and Darc_Requiem 1 1 Quote Link to comment
elliephil Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I love weird tech like this. Keep it 😃 Darc_Requiem 1 Quote Link to comment
Dragonfave723 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Edited February 1 by Dragonfave723 HeavensCloud and Sonero 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 What's up everybody? I'm back from a trip you didn't know I was taking. Phantom_Miria and elliephil 2 Quote Link to comment
purbeast Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) It's so Capcom of them to tell us Ed is coming in February and then announce he is coming out the 27th. They should have done the 29th just because they can this year. Edited February 1 by purbeast Darc_Requiem 1 Quote Link to comment
elliephil Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 What are these release dates for sf6 dlc? Rashid was in July. Then Aki two months later in September. It will be a whole five months later that Ed comes out? Wtf? ToreyBeans, -PVL93- and Darc_Requiem 3 Quote Link to comment
purbeast Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, elliephil said: What are these release dates for sf6 dlc? Rashid was in July. Then Aki two months later in September. It will be a whole five months later that Ed comes out? Wtf? Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring. elliephil 1 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 They probably are doing the 27th because Capcom Cup ends on the 25th and they want to show his release trailer there. elliephil, Darc_Requiem and -PVL93- 3 Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, purbeast said: Summer, Fall, Winter, Spring. Yeah and it's shit. Granted Tekken is also doing a one char per time of the year release but at least it had a roster twice the size of SF6 at launch 1 hour ago, HeavensCloud said: They probably are doing the 27th because Capcom Cup ends on the 25th and they want to show his release trailer there. Imagine they don't even tease Akuma in any way and conclude a CPT season finale with a fucking Ed trailer lmao Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 44 minutes ago, -PVL93- said: Yeah and it's shit. Granted Tekken is also doing a one char per time of the year release but at least it had a roster twice the size of SF6 at launch Imagine they don't even tease Akuma in any way and conclude a CPT season finale with a fucking Ed trailer lmao I think they might actually do a combined one with Akuma. Especially given how close to Spring we'd be at that point. And they know it would be super hype and a great way to end CC X. Quote Link to comment
elliephil Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 During sfv didn't they usually release a new balance patch shortly after Capcom Cup? It's weird how all of this lines up with Akuma being the last character in this season pass while Capcom Cup happens in February. Imagine like they release a Season 2 balance patch before all the Season 1 characters have dropped lol Quote Link to comment
purbeast Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, -PVL93- said: Yeah and it's shit. Granted Tekken is also doing a one char per time of the year release but at least it had a roster twice the size of SF6 at launch Meh, Tekken's characters don't change much each iteration. I played the demo and played Paul and he played pretty much how I remembered him playing the last time I played a Tekken game which was 3 or Tag 2. I wouldn't be surprised if they literally use a lot of the same code and stuff for characters across games. I know I'm probably in the minority but I don't care about a roster size being huge. I'm fine with the size of SF6 roster and them slow dripping 4 characters per year. I loved SF4 but hated how large the roster got towards the end. Jocelot 1 Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Juri's face the best Darc_Requiem and Pair of Rooks 2 Quote Link to comment
CESTUS III Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Voted AngryBird, if i understood well there will be some sort of reward also if your predicted one make it to Top 3 Cool af illustration btw -PVL93- 1 Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 20 hours ago, elliephil said: Imagine like they release a Season 2 balance patch before all the Season 1 characters have dropped lol Don't see anything wrong with it Release season 2 patch Observe feedback Make adjustments Drop Akuma and another balance patch before new CPT season kicks off It's much better than waiting another fucking year if the Capcom Balancing strikes again Quote Link to comment
purbeast Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I was playing my buddy last night and did a qcb.fk with Dee Jay to get his fk sway, but his fk sobat came out and I ended up eating a level 3 because of it. I was like wtf how did I do qcb and get qcf input? So I looked at replays immediately after like wtf. And sure as shit, I did a qcb and the damn sobat came out. After looking at it in slow mo, I could finally figure out WHY it happened. Took me a while to figure it out but thought I'd post the video here. Typically if my opponent is not in the corner, I will do b.fk and cancel into fk.sway after the first hit of b.fk. But when they are in the corner, I will let both his of b.fk hit and then do fk sway so I can continue a juggle combo. But since Cammy was kind of close to the corner, I wanted to see if I could carry her into the corner to do the corner juggle, which is why I did not try to cancel after the first hit of b.fk. So that was my reasoning for not canceling after 1 hit in this instance. I just wanted to preface it with that though. After eyeballing that video in slow mo though, it made sense to me why that sobat came out. Darc_Requiem, Pair of Rooks, elliephil and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
Volta Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Anyone else tired of SF6? I don't dislike the game and I think it's a big improvement over V, I just don't feel like playing it anymore for some reason. ToreyBeans and Doctrine_Dark 2 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 36 minutes ago, Volta said: Anyone else tired of SF6? I don't dislike the game and I think it's a big improvement over V, I just don't feel like playing it anymore for some reason. It's because you play Blanka 🤣 Bigtochiro 1 Quote Link to comment
Volta Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 30 minutes ago, HeavensCloud said: It's because you play Blanka 🤣 No, Blanka makes my opponents not want to play the game. Bigtochiro, ToreyBeans and Darc_Requiem 3 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, Volta said: Anyone else tired of SF6? I don't dislike the game and I think it's a big improvement over V, I just don't feel like playing it anymore for some reason. I'm not tired of the game. I do wish we get more lounges going to play each other though. Volta and Bigtochiro 2 Quote Link to comment
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