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misterBee got a reaction from Bigtochiro in The Street Fighter V Thread November 17, 2020

I play a lot of different games. I have sunk many many hours into Xrd, Blazblue, and Tekken. I also play a ton of KOF.

If SF suddenly had air-dashes I wouldn't mind at all. I'm not obsessed with all the games I play having some kind of conceptual 'purity' like some people seem to.

SF3 had an almost completely different cast of characters from any SF that came before it. Parries change the way you play the game so radically that it has almost nothing in common with any other SF game, because core SF mechanics like fireballs don't even matter. Despite this some people think 3S is the best SF ever created.

...but when New Generation first came out everyone hated on it because it wasn't similar enough to what they once knew. "Who are all these weird characters? Where's Chun-Li? This isn't Street Fighter!" they would say. James Chen still thinks it's not Street Fighter because of parries -- and who is taking him seriously when he says that?

We would never have gotten to the beauty of Third Strike if all the hardcore 'fans' had had their way.

I don't know how you think the characters don't look similar enough for you. Eddy looks 100% like Eddy. Nobody is gonna be confused about which characters are Sol or Ky. May is unmistakably May. Adding muscle mass and changing up costumes doesn't suddenly make those characters unrecognizable. Chip's outfit has barely changed from original Guilty Gear all the way to Strive. Adding a rope to his belt and making him buff doesn't suddenly make him nothing like before. Xrd Milia has an outfit completely different from older Milia and I don't think anybody was confused about who that character was when the game came out.

The real problem isn't that Strive has changed too much. The problem for some people is that they have invested tons of time and have enjoyed one specific set of games for years, and don't like it when the new thing isn't the same. It feels like the game they love is being taken away. There are old GG players out there right now bitching about Xrd and I don't think anybody is taking them seriously anymore. Strive as you say may be quite good, and nobody will care about how different it is from Xrd. Then one day when Strive gets replaced the Strive players will claim that the new game isn't GG either, because to them GG is a game like Strive. It's just a cycle of complaining tied to peoples' dislike of change /their nostalgia.

There is no hard and fast rule of what GG is. To some people it's just an anime game with a hard rock soundtrack. For others it's all about the chain canceling normals and Roman cancels. Some people care more about the technical aspects of the gameplay and some care more about the aesthetics. GG is a lot of different things to different people, and Strive is closer to the mark for some than others. Hell, Isuka is a 4 player game that forces you to push a button just to turn around -- and that's still a Guilty Gear game, isn't it?

I have spent many hours playing Xrd. I played it in arcades in Japan and love the game a lot. I own it on three different platforms and bought it on launch. Before that as a kid I spent a lot of time dicking around in PC versions of XX. I have zero problems with Strive and think it's a really cool-looking GG game. I can't wait to play it. Are my opinions and time spent playing GG wrong? Is Strive for me because I don't like GG? No, I like GG a whole fucking lot, and from where I'm standing Strive is another GG game, just with new/different mechanics.

Am I somehow not a GG fan? Or is my fan opinion somehow inferior to yours? Trying to gatekeep who Strive is 'for' based on some silly idea of who is/isn't a GG fan is pretentious as hell.

You're standing over there saying THIS ISN'T GG and I'm standing here saying it is. You can see how this is a futile point to try to make because it's just peoples' opinions, and those differ wildly, even among 'fans'.

If the game is good then who cares if it has GG in the title or not? You worry that Strive will kill the franchise but if it's a good game then it'll HELP the franchise, regardless of how similar it is to old titles or not. You're not afraid the franchise will die. You're just afraid the specific type of gameplay YOU LIKE will die. Guilty Gear itself will probably do just fine.

Strive's graphics ALONE will probably pull in more casual player $$$ than any similarity to older games ever will.

misterBee got a reaction from Scanman in Fighting Game Lounge November 17, 2020

Made some GIFs to show off the beauty that is Hyper Street Fighter Zero.

I hope one day this gets released for modern consoles since it's trapped as a secret mode in the PS2 anthology. 🙃

misterBee got a reaction from Shakunetsu in The Street Fighter V Thread November 16, 2020

All this doll talk just makes me want to play more Zero 3 Upper.

Who's gonna play it with me?

misterBee reacted to DarkSakul in Best Ultimate Tech Talk Hang Out Loud Edition 2K November 16, 2020

Who wants some new Lag testing videos

old time SRK user Phantomnaut did some test vids

misterBee reacted to DangerousJ in The MEGASHOCK Saloon Thread 2.0 November 16, 2020

2021 is looking uncannily exciting..

misterBee got a reaction from Bigtochiro in The Street Fighter V Thread November 16, 2020

I love how the SFV thread is for discussing everything except SFV.

Get rekt.

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misterBee got a reaction from Bigtochiro in The Street Fighter V Thread November 16, 2020

Arc games might not be completely dead on PC but the average number of random players at any given time is smaller compared to console.

On PC it's more common to find matches through Discord because the normal in-game lobbies tend to be empty. It's not that PC has no players -- you just have to take the time to find matches yourself through other methods first.

Steam charts are also not a good indicator of PC fighting game health because people only boot up a game when they are playing matches that they've set up. Once the match is over they quit the game and so you're not gonna see a lot of concurrent players showing up online.

I play a lot of Melty and that scene is booming on PC, thanks to the fan-made rollback version. There's a constant new influx of players because the game is free and easy to get your hands on. But all the match-making is done through Discord and people sending each other their IPs for hosting games. Melty's case is especially interesting since everyone is using CCCaster/Community edition. Steamcharts are useless because nobody uses the Steam version.

TL;DR: PC fighting games are healthy, but you gotta set up matches with Discord. Console definitely has more casual players just sitting around in lobbies.