The Street Fighter VI Story Thread: Shadaloo Died so Luke Could Live!

[bakfromon]

8 hours ago, YagamiFire said:

That's kind of impossible to change unless we think a revamp can include cutting his age by 2/3rds? 😄

Hey my name’s Zeku my major revamp was literally based around a technique that cuts my age by 2/3rds which gives me access to a whole new move list. 
 

I’m sort of like Gen but instead of having 2 styles of fighting my moveset is based around the fact that I can de-age myself by 2/3rds

 

[CESTUS III]

  

4 hours ago, DarthEnderX said:

if they wanted a young, early 20s chinese man for marketing reasons, they could have just brought back Yun or Yang.

What I wish they turned SF1 Lee into is someone cool.  He doesn't have to be LITERALLY identical to Jamie to be cool.

If you ask me would take Yun over Jamie, easily

And would probably get Lee over Jamie too, he's not exactly my fav new character

 

I like we got Jamie wich may save slots from getting Yun AND Yang though

 

But again we miss the point, marketing wise they got an idea that required Jamie... not just as young, early 20s chinese man, but also as brand new character aimed at a new young audience that maybe never played SF4  let alone 3 to know Yun  and would prefer a total new char that starts with them

 

Again i find Luke, Jaime and Kimberly very representative of the side of SF6 that try to connect with new audience... i don't necessary approve it and sure af i would know better ways to use 3 slots, but i understand why they went like that

 

Is same shit of "Modern" controls being pushed as default starting mode, they want claim a NEW begin happened while feeding us old guard with SF2 vets lol

 

All i care is this strategy make them good money and we get great (6 chars, not 4 tnx) DLC seasons, if it mean RIP Lee* so be it

 

 

 

 

*actually not RIP Lee, if was up to me Lee (and Geki, Joe and Mike) should have been used as opponent for the Strong Fighters quest, rather than go use fucking Final Fight minions as elite material lol

Lee could have been in Chun Li's area of MC, Joe and Mike somewhere in different points of MC too, Geki maybe around sumo area by night (then move to Ryu's place like Retsu did)

Edited June 16, 2023 by CESTUS III

[Darc_Requiem]

Updated my Alex. You can't see his face but I tweaked it. Gave him a nose more like his SF3 artwork and gave him that resting frown. Oh and the gloves are finally the right color. Why is green dye seemingly the hardest to come by. 

 

 

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by Darc_Requiem

[DarthEnderX]

1 hour ago, CESTUS III said:

*actually not RIP Lee, if was up to me Lee (and Geki, Joe and Mike) should have been used as opponent for the Strong Fighters quest, rather than go use fucking Final Fight minions as elite material lol

I still want Mike, the African-American boxer, and Mike Bison, the African-American boxer, to just be the same person.

 

 

Lee, Geki and Joe should each have their own questlines, like Retsu and Carlos.

 

The Mad Gear thugs should have had their own mid-level questline for beating them all, seperate from the beat-the-elites questline.

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by DarthEnderX

[Darc_Requiem]

The lack of a white color option for the bikini grinds my gears. I'm probalby switching it to yellow. Bright colors mirrors Elena's personality more. I may change the hair. I wanted to try something slightly different than obvious option.

 

[Chun-Li_Forever]

[DarthEnderX]

51 minutes ago, Chun-Li_Forever said:

Heh.  Basically a summary of all her WTM interactions.

 

I also lul'd at her "If I get fat my head will drag during bird kick!" line.

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by DarthEnderX

[YagamiFire]

10 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Updated my Alex. You can't see his face but I tweaked it. Gave him a nose more like his SF3 artwork and gave him that resting frown. Oh and the gloves are finally the right color. Why is green dye seemingly the hardest to come by. 

 

 

 

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE!

[Daemos]

I was just watching Pullum Purna's epic dance-til-you-die super and that EX games continue to be so ahead of their time. Now Manon has a dance super!

I really wish Capcom and Arika would play nice and integrate the EX characters into the universe. In particular, I think Pullum, Skullomania, Garuda, and Doctrine Dark could be very unique additions still.

If Capcom are also planning to retire Evil Ryu/Kage, and are not planning on pursuing Violent Ken then a new young SNH fighter could be warranted - Kairi would be perfect.

[YagamiFire]

Kairi is underrated. Very good design. Very cool character in all the ways they wanted Kage to be cool.

[CESTUS III]

1 hour ago, Daemos said:

I was just watching Pullum Purna's epic dance-til-you-die super and that EX games continue to be so ahead of their time. Now Manon has a dance super!

It's in the works 😄

 

1 hour ago, Daemos said:

I really wish Capcom and Arika would play nice and integrate the EX characters into the universe. In particular, I think Pullum, Skullomania, Garuda, and Doctrine Dark could be very unique additions still.

 

This list

 

Joke aside actually Pullum and D.Dark are indeed coming

My problem with D.Dark is finding right moveset, i'm thinking AKI will help

 

To do list is so fat as we speak lol

Wonder how many will get actually done, i'm giving myself kinda high standard, so if i don't get the pieces i need will not do it if feel mediocre lol

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by CESTUS III

[Daemos]

6 minutes ago, CESTUS III said:

Joke aside actually Pullum and D.Dark are indeed coming

My problem with D.Dark is finding right moveset, i'm thinking AKI will help

I think if they add Viper or Rolento, D.Dark would become much easier.
But I think Pullum is completely workable now. Just need to mod in her belly dancing music for the super. 😄

 

Did you guys see the Nightcrawler? It's really well done.

Edited June 16, 2023 by Daemos

[Daemos]

1 hour ago, YagamiFire said:

Kairi is underrated. Very good design. Very cool character in all the ways they wanted Kage to be cool.

Many years ago I imagined that the "Evil Ryu/Kage/Kairi/Evil Hokuto" narrative/gameplay function would be formally transferred to Gouken's Daughter in a future timeline. She joined to avenge Gouken's death (actual this time) only for Akuma to reveal to her that she was his daughter with Sayaka that Gouken raised to keep safe from him. Her ensuing fight with Akuma would bring out the devil in her.

 

Very melodramatic but narratively I wanted to transfer all these floating ideas (Ryu's parentage, Evil Ryu, Ryu's potential love interest) all into an actual canonical character and quit playing what-ifs.

Also a character that looks like Hokuto who is about the same age as Ryu would be badass.

[Hawkingbird]

Everything say in this video is correct.

[DarthEnderX]

3 hours ago, Daemos said:

I really wish Capcom and Arika would play nice and integrate the EX characters into the universe.

No thank you.

[Daemos]

3 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

No thank you.

[ShockDingo]

I don't give a damn, I want Skullo. Tokusatsu is an institution!

[DarthEnderX]

The SFEX characters are where they belong.  In their own game, being made by Arika.

 

Now if they could just get the actual Fighting Layer characters in that game, they'd be all set.

 

Edited June 16, 2023 by DarthEnderX

[Daemos]

Alright guys...

This is the second time this pops up

https://www.essentiallysports.com/esports-news-from-martial-arts-master-ryu-to-psycho-villain-bison-ranking-top-five-street-fighter-characters-of-all-time/

"Apart from his amazing and aggressive fighting style, M. Bison also has an interesting backstory for fans to discover. "

Now I've already predicted many black moons ago that S2 will likely contain some or all of the characters from the graffiti wall - Sakura, Bison, Balrog, Ibuki and Rainbow  Mika. So it doesn't surprise me that these characters will start popping up in press releases, fluff pieces, toys, etc. as part of a discreet push from Capcom before the announcement next year.

But this is something different.... Since when is Bison's backstory something that comes up? Once sure, but twice in the same month from two unrelated places? 

Are they really going to pull the trigger and tell us his origins?

Edited June 16, 2023 by Daemos

[Darc_Requiem]

Yeah, yellow is definitely better.

 

[Miðgarðsorm]

On 6/5/2023 at 2:48 AM, DarthEnderX said:

I mean, you don't have to be from the same place as an animal to adopt it's motif.  You can just think the animal is cool.

 

Look how much medieval European shit has lions on it.

True, but there's a reason lions have entered European mythology and jaguars have not. It's because lions were known to European cultures, for millennia. Before AD 100, lions still lived as far north as Greece and Spain (lion itself is a word derived from the Ancient Greek λέων leon). It wasn't complicated at all for the Romans to find a lion for their circuses, during a period when lions lived almost everywhere around them except north. England imported many traits of its culture from Ancient Rome first and later from France, both places where lions had already entered mythological status and were everywhere in fables, tales and general culture. Heck, the Vikings knew what a lion was, and they likely never saw one in their lives. By the time of Richard the Lionheart (12th Century), the lion was already a symbol of courage in all the world known to christendom after centuries the animal itself had already gone extinct in Europe (also, the French were the first to give him that nickname, quor de lion, during the Third Crusade: so "Lionheart" came from a translation from Norman French). Similarly, South Asian cultures knew lions (because they lived as far east as India and Bangladesh, and India spread its culture everywhere in the East with Buddhism), leopards and tigers. Japan is no exception, as neither lions nor leopards nor tigers live in Japan, but they nevertheless knew them through Buddhist culture passed through Chinese illustrated texts and characters: 豹 hyō (leopard), 虎 tora (tiger), 獅子 shishi (lion).
Jaguars weren't known to anyone except Native Americans (the word comes from the Old Tupi îaûara and the Guarani yaguar, "wild beast, jaguar") until late 1500. It makes sense for someone like King from Tekken to reference a jaguar, because he's Mexican (and his original inspiration, being Japanese, obviously referenced a tiger). Not so much for Adon.

The reference I was talking about comes from, as always happens, a manga. Because manga and anime were the things SF developers read and watched when they were young. Akira Yasuda explained:

"Back then I felt that Thailand was home to the strongest fighting techniques in the world. After being inspired by a certain manga, I thought to my self what if an evil organization used their funds to create a fighting empire of sorts?"

The original Japanese wording is その当時はタイこそが世界で一番格闘技が強い国なんじゃないかと思っていたからです。そういう漫画を読んだ影響ってのもあるけど、悪い組織が資金力を使って格闘帝国を作った、というのがいいんじゃないかと思ったんです。"Back then i thought that Thailand was the country with the strongest fighting techniques in the world. Of course I was also influenced by that sort of manga(s), but I thought: wouldn't it be cool if an evil organisation used their economic clout to create a fighting empire?" That sort of manga(s). The Japanese language only rarely specifies a plural. Because there were various works using Thailand as the "country with the strongest martial arts" to build up a direct enemy the Japanese protagonist had to beat. All works by Ikki Kajiwara.

If we talk about the most widely known, it's obviously Karate Baka Ichidai, which also was the main inspiration since SF1. But there are also other less known mangas by Kajiwara, most notably Kick no Oni and, above all, Kurenai no challenger, all of which reiterated some of Karate Baka Ichidai's main concepts (Kajiwara loved self-plagiarism and constantly repeating the same tropes and characters, just to hammer the point home... and also because he was lazy, lol) while introducing many more things Street Fighter series reused.

 

Karate Baka Ichidai (1971-1977) was divided into two distinct parts, each with three story arcs, cleary distinguishable because drawn by two diverse artists. The first part (1971-1973, the first three arcs) was drawn by Jirō Tsunoda and depicted the heavily fictionalised story of the real-life karateka Masutatsu Ōyama. The second part (1973-1977) was drawn by Jōya Kagemaru and focused on Ōyama's disciples, particularly Yoshiji Soeno, and featured what many in the FGC already know as the primary source of inspiration for SF1: the never happened confrontation between Soeno and the fictional Rēban (NOT "Reiba", that was a typo of the first review appeared on the net which everyone kept parroting), that inspired Ryū and Sagat. But Sagat wasn't inspired only by Rēban; rather, he was a mashup of fictional Thai fighters who appeared in Kajiwara's mangas. All those mangas had a common point: Muay Thai was always presented as a fearsome art, the most terrible in the world, whose champions were regarded by the local population more as gods than humans (a frequent scene was the mothers overjoyed if the champion touched or carried their newborns, which was thought to bless them for life); also, Thailand's exotic locations were constantly shown, and those all ended up somewhere in SF backgrounds. 

Before Rēban, even Karate Baka Ichidai's first half already had Ōyama fight a Muay Thai champion, "The Emperor" (帝王 teiō) Black Cobra. Yes, "Emperor" ALSO became Sagat's title... It wasn't just Rēban, every Thai champion (and not only them... more about this later) in Kajiwara's mangas held that title LOL. Like Rēban after him, Black Cobra had a scarred eye (but no eyepatch). Kajiwara simply loved handicapped badasses as rivals or mentors of his protagonists - think of Danpei Tange in Tomorrow's Joe for example. Black Cobra ALSO had a bullet wound on his chest, which for a second Ōyama considered to attack but changed his mind as it was an obvious weak point, so it would've been a cowardly tactic. That's the first step towards Sagat's chest scar... Notice how Black Cobra cradles a child to bless him. Before the match, Ōyama also visits Wat Arun in Bangkok and the reclining Buddha... Which is actually in Wat Lokayasutharam, located in Ayutthaya Historical Park, 80 km north of Bangkok. Capcom wasn't the first to mix locations...

 

 

Kick no Oni ("the demon of kickboxing", 1969-1971, drawings by Kentarō Nakajō) even preceded Karate Baka Ichidai, and is the heavily fictionalised biography of the Japanese kickboxer Hideki Shiraha, better known as Tadashi Sawamura (1943-2021), THE kickboxer who popularised the style in Japan in the Sixties, a period when they clearly wanted to establish the superiority of the style over the original Muay Thai and as such there was a lot of enmity between them: remember that "kickboxing" is a word coined by the Japanese promoter Osamu Noguchi (1934-2016) in 1966, who created the style by fusing karate and muay thai, and he was so hated by the Thais that when he opened a "kickboxing" gym in Bangkok in 1972 he was forced out of the country by overwhelming protests and death threats. Noguchi himself appears in both the manga and the anime, which apparently was a hit in Brazil with the title "Sawamu, o demolidor". Anyway, the plot is the same as always: the Thai champions are revered as gods (there's still the scene of the child blessing), Sawamura is a karateka who loses a match against a Thai champ but then decides to do kickboxing after being recruited by Noguchi and wins again, nothing to see here. Of particular interest are Sawamura's special moves, 真空跳び膝蹴り shinkū tobihizageri ("vacuum jumping knee kick", if you ever wondered "why shinkū hadōken?") and 垂直2段げり suichoku nidan geri ("vertical two levels kick", a jumping double kick), both techniques reused by World Heroes 2's Shura (also by Joe Higashi with different names). The anime opening featured also clips of the real Sawamura, who left a lasting legacy in the Japanese pop culture: remember that the Pokemon Hitmonlee is Sawamurā in Japan.

 

 

 

Kurenai no chōsensha  (1973-1975, "Kurenai the challenger" drawn by Kentarō Nakajō) was the work where Kajiwara let himself loose as it's all fictional, and also the most interesting about Muay Thai for a number of reasons. The protagonist is the promising young footballer Toshiya Kurenai, who watches a muay thai tournament while in Thailand and is star-struck by GARUDA, the champion revered as a god in Thailand and who makes short work of his opponent, sending him out of the ring at Toshiya's feet. Unlike Karate Baka Ichidai's Rēban, Garuda is tall, imposing and has a Garuda tattoo on his chest... The only things he lacks to be Sagat are the eyepatch and the baldness, which indeed came from Rēban. Garuda is immediately compared to a yak, the guardian demons of Thai temples we know so well for Vega's stage. Notice also how in the cover of the first volume, where he has white hair, Garuda so closely resembles Urien, complete with a bindi on his forehead...

 

 

 

Long story short, Toshiya becomes obsessed with beating him, and leaves football to practice muay thai under the tutelage of Ikki Ōtone, a karate champ whom Garuda had crippled during a match and who is now an alcoholic living in a shack, consumed by his desire of revenge. Again the theme of karate (=Japan) vs muay thai (=Thailand) and the tensions between the two styles... With a lot of racism thrown inbetween, but let's not delve into that. And again the handicapped mentor... By this point, the only person who still supports Toshiya is his close friend Yoshio, who then becomes his cornerman.

 

Soon after his debut, Toshiya befriends the Japanese kickboxing champ, Hayato Kenmochi, who is a blatant Sawamura expy (to make him even more exaggerated, he uses the真空三段げり Shinkū sandan geri, a TRIPLE jumping knee kick, obvious fusion between the two Sawamura specials) and, incidentally, is also the older brother of Miko, Toshiya's love interest.

 

 

Toshiya even goes as far as to voluntarily enroll in Garuda's own gym in Thailand, 蛇の巣 hebi no su ("Snake Pit") ¹, where he undergoes the usual hellish training Kajiwara so loved. Too bad the coaches are all too loyal to Garuda and take the opportunity to torture him as punishment for a misdeed Toshiya didn't commit, but Garuda finds out his men dishonored him and beats them mercilessly, admonishing everyone to treat Toshiya like a normal student.

Amongst the unnamed coaches, there's a strangely familiar face...

 

 

 

Oh, hello, Adon.
Obviously Adon didn't come just from this character, rather from a mashup of diverse "secondary Thai rivals" scattered in Kajiwara's works, all with spiky hair (see also Sawamura's opponent above), but the pointy nose and chin of this one in particular strongly remind of Sagat's cocky former disciple.

After Garuda saves Toshiya from his coaches' lynching, he proceeds to tell everyone a story from his childhood. Garuda was born in a poor fisherman's family, but his sister was such a beauty a high-ranking (and corrupted) buddhist priest demanded her for his personal lust when Garuda was just a kid. Enraged, Garuda attacked the priest, but was quickly subdued. Since the priest couldn't kill him because of an imperial moratorium on capital punishment (if he did, he would've been stripped of all his privileges), he tortured Garuda and left him for dead in a wasteland, while Garuda's sister committed suicide. When Garuda opened his eyes, he realised where he was...

So he swore before Buddha to become more than human to get his revenge. He trained hard and became the national champ, and ultimately succeeded. During an official dinner with the Thai emperor, Garuda recognises the priest (who obviously doesn't recognise the already grown up champ) amongst the guests, and proceeds to reveal him who he really is, then denounces his crimes to everyone before killing him in front of the emperor.

Hayato challenges Garuda in Japan while Toshiya is still in Thailand and helplessly watches the match in TV, and Hayato even manages to actually down Garuda once for a count of seven with his Shinkū sandan geri.

Too bad Garuda KILLS Hayato in retaliation with his super-secret move 空中ギロチン Kūchū girochin, "Flying guillotine". So for Toshiya it becomes PERSONAL.

Garuda tells Toshiya he's now a graduate from his gym, and Toshiya resumes his career to challenge his former master. Toshiya fights many odd rivals, including a Bruce Lee clone who uses jeet kune do. Toshiya's first special move was the オーバーヘッドキック Overhead Kick, directly brought from his football past.

The second move Toshiya creates is 紅十人げり Kurenai jūnin geri, "Ten Kurenai kick", where he jumps between the ropes so fast it seems there's ten of him (lol) and then... missile dropkick.

The last move is created by accident, when Toshiya exploits a dodged punch and rolls forward in the air kicking his opponent (and hitting even the referee in the process by mistake). Ōtone dubs the move 人間風車キック Ningen fūsha kikku, "Human windmill kick".

THIS would become Adon's Jaguar kick in SF1, when it was still named simply 回転キック Kaiten kikku, "rotating kick", Adon landed almost horizontal with his body AND THE FIRST FRAME OF THE MOVE WAS INDEED A WHIFFED PUNCH.

By the time of SFZ, the finalised Jaguar Kick wouldn't resemble the original move anymore, but this was its start. Also, Bison's Double Knee Press / Scissor Kick, as Capcom said Bison stole the move from Adon.

Toshiya finally succeeds in being recognised by Garuda as a worthy challenger, and the final match happens. Before the match, we see Garuda training with his disciples in Bangkok, and some Japanese tourists who are there seeing the reclining Buddha in Wat Pho, another reclining Buddha.

 

The match is obviously extremely violent, and during the first round Garuda notices that any blow to his chest causes him immense pain. He deduces that years of muay thai fractured some of his ribs, whose fragments now are digging into his flesh and threaten his heart. The problem is that Toshiya noticed as well, and understandably he's now targeting Garuda's chest: so Toshiya must die. Garuda attempts his finisher, but Toshiya manages to escape, and as both can't use their special moves because they know how to counter everything, they continue pummeling each other using regular basic attacks. The last assault is a brutal kick to Toshiya's neck, who is already unconscious when he unleashes his last, fatal knee strike to Garuda's chest, who dies instantly for the fractured rib that pierces his heart.

 

That's the origin of Sagat's scar on his chest, although he didn't die after Ryu's shoryuken.

Toshiya is then judged by the doctor as unable to ever set foot in a ring again, IF he recovers. The last panel is Miko alone, observing the deserted arena and wondering about the sense of all that. Two men dead and one crippled for life...
"For what?"

"For something... Only a man could understand!"
Classic Kajiwara tragic ending (with an even more classic self-absolution, lol).

 

All of this is the answer to the question: "Why Thailand?". It couldn't have been anything else. Kajiwara constantly hammered Thailand down the throats of readers back then.

Even the jaguar, who isn't an Asian animal.

The very first page of Kurenai no chōsensha opens with a QUOTE FROM THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF HEMINGWAY'S 1936 SHORT STORY "THE SNOWS OF KILIMANJARO".

Quote

Kilimanjaro is a snow-covered mountain 19,710 feet high, and is said to be the highest mountain in Africa. Its western summit is called the Masai "Ngaje Ngai," the House of God. Close to the western summit there is the dried and frozen carcass of a LEOPARD. No one has explained what the LEOPARD was seeking at that altitude.

Kajiwara translated the paragraph verbatim, except that he wrote ジャガー JAGUAR over 豹 hyō (leopard). BOTH TIMES. So he clearly INTENDED a jaguar to be there, instead of a more plausible leopard.

Even in the second page, when Kajiwara continues "But HE could explain! He saw Kilimanjaro as well! Just not in the Dark Continent, but in Asia! He saw Kilimanjaro in Bangkok, Thailand's capital city! Because, since he saw it, he became a JAGUAR too, determined to climb the lethal walls of ice with an incredible zeal..."

And THIS is why Adon uses "Jaguar" in his moves.

 

¹ Call back to Tiger Mask's 虎の穴 tora no ana ("Tiger Cave"), itself a reference to the real catch-as-catch-can gym Snake Pit in Wigan, UK. If you ever wondered why Slammasters's Titanic Tim comes from Wigan, now you know.

Edited June 17, 2023 by Miðgarðsorm

[CESTUS III]

1 hour ago, Miðgarðsorm said:

-cut-

Incredible post dude 👍

 

Do you believe this

 

is the origin of Dankukyaku?

 

knee - kick -kick instead knee - knee -kick, but still

 

 

[CESTUS III]

 

[Daemos]

The train in London is from another century. That's not how their trains look like now lol.

[Jion_Wansu]

Believe some of the heights form the early 1992 stats has Balrog/Vega the same height as Vega/Bison at 6'4". Vega's stance is just lower than Balrog's stance.

[Hawkingbird]

I'm doing Dhalsim bond levels and I find it absolutely hilarious how he can't process the existence of mild curry.

[Daemos]

2 hours ago, Jion_Wansu said:

Believe some of the heights form the early 1992 stats has Balrog/Vega the same height as Vega/Bison at 6'4". Vega's stance is just lower than Balrog's stance.

They aren't the same height, Dictator is slightly shorter than Claw. Dictator is 5'10-5'11. Sometimes he was listed as 6'0 like in the Alpha series. He is the shortest of the 4 Kings.

[Shakunetsu]

 

 

[Darc_Requiem]

Anyone know if there are any sunglasses with transparent lenses in World Tour. I was trying to make a Viper and it just don't work with the eyeglasses or the opaque sunglasses I've found.

 

 

Also her portions are a bit weird out of the suit. The suit layers on so thick. I had to make thinner to make her figure shine through.

Spoiler

 

 

Tried to make "Bonita" Laura, here is what I think of my efforts. Courtesy of Ken.

 

 

Spoiler

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Darc_Requiem

[Jion_Wansu]

8 hours ago, Daemos said:

They aren't the same height, Dictator is slightly shorter than Claw. Dictator is 5'10-5'11. Sometimes he was listed as 6'0 like in the Alpha series. He is the shortest of the 4 Kings.

 

Then Ryu and Ken must be like 5'6" or something. In SF2 when Vega has the win pose with arms crossed and wins on time next to an opponent he towers.

[Phantom_Miria]

8 minutes ago, Jion_Wansu said:

 

Then Ryu and Ken must be like 5'6" or something. In SF2 when Vega has the win pose with arms crossed and wins on time next to an opponent he towers.

Obligatory "Manon is 5'9'' and only 4 inches taller than Cammy".

 

[Darc_Requiem]

28 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said:

Obligatory "Manon is 5'9'' and only 4 inches taller than Cammy".

 

Ryu, Ken, Jamie, and Manon are supposed to be the same height 👀

[DarthEnderX]

Maybe she walks on her toes.  Ballet and whatnot.

[CESTUS III]

@Darc_Requiem

Trying to find way to take pics that give models i did justice, the scrren-capture button while in WTM will trigger most of the time the smartphone mode 👺

 

Starting to fear i will have to make vids for each, wich in theory may work also to show selected moveset, but would be like x10 the work 🤯

 

Later today will try to post some prview, there will be SF1 stuff for @DarthEnderXtoo 😄

 

[Daemos]

 

 

Dan is coming!

[Darc_Requiem]

26 minutes ago, Daemos said:

 

 

Dan is coming!

[Hawkingbird]

I find it strange that Jamie knows who Chun-Li is but doesn't know Li-fen. She's the nerdy girl that tried to hit him with a one itch punch to the solar plexus to him.

[Daemos]

13 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

He'll probably show up in much later seasons anyway.

There is a 1 shoto per season rule with Capcom.

S1 - Akuma

S2 - Sakura

S3 - Sagat

S4 - Dan/Sean/Evil Ryu/Violent Ken

S5 - Dan/Sean/Evil Ryu/Violent Ken

[Darc_Requiem]

14 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

I find it strange that Jamie knows who Chun-Li is but doesn't know Li-fen. She's the nerdy girl that tried to hit him with a one itch punch to the solar plexus to him.

It's all those "herbal" drinks fam.

[DarthEnderX]

19 minutes ago, Hawkingbird said:

I find it strange that Jamie knows who Chun-Li is but doesn't know Li-fen. She's the nerdy girl that tried to hit him with a one itch punch to the solar plexus to him.

Well, Chun Li is famous.  Li Fen isn't.

[Hawkingbird]

12 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

Well, Chun Li is famous.  Li Fen isn't.

Jamie knows about Chun-Li's relationship with his bros. Her exploits with interpol isn't a secret to the community. If he knows those things about her then how does her adaptive daughter fall through the cracks?

 

I don't appreciate Luke calling Ken a deadbeat.

[Daemos]

Just now, Hawkingbird said:

I don't appreciate Luke calling Ken a deadbeat.

He abandoned his wife and kid for FOUR YEARS. Incredibly formative years for his kid mind you. He abandoned his business to the vultures too.
 

He spent all that time hiding and wondering if he should kill a guy without ever mustering the courage of following through with his revenge. FOUR years is a huge amount of time!

[Darc_Requiem]

8 minutes ago, Daemos said:

He abandoned his wife and kid for FOUR YEARS.

What? When? How?

[Doctrine_Dark]

Some more Arcade stories.

 

Chun-Li's Story

 

Spoiler

Chun-Li's narrative begins with her introducing herself as an Interpol agent who has dedicated many years to the pursuit of the Shadaloo syndicate and its leader, M. Bison. With the combined efforts of numerous martial artists, Shadaloo was ultimately eradicated, and Bison's reign was brought to a permanent end. Following this achievement, Chun-Li takes a break from her work to teach kung fu in the city.

 

Despite her sabbatical, Chun-Li recognizes that a martial artist is always on active duty and must not neglect daily training. She remains committed to maintaining her skills.

 

Sometime later, Chun-Li senses the presence of Juri, who had been stealthily observing her. Demanding that Juri reveal herself, Chun-Li confronts her. Juri emerges and comments on hearing rumors of Chun-Li's retirement but acknowledges that her senses are still sharp.

 

Chun-Li asserts that stealth has never been Juri's strong suit, so it comes as no surprise that she was immediately detected. Juri suggests engaging in an activity more suited to her style, leading Chun-Li to deliver a kick. Amused, Juri exclaims, "Oh, HELL yeah! That's the stuff! I was worried you'd be losing your touch!"

 

Unimpressed by Juri's behavior, Chun-Li decides to walk away. However, Juri delivers an ominous message, implying that the threat might not be truly eliminated despite Bison's death. Chun-Li questions her about this, but Juri insists that she will only reveal the information if Chun-Li beats it out of her.

 

Ultimately, Chun-Li fails to extract any additional information from Juri.

 

Realizing that there may still be hidden dangers lurking in the shadows even after Bison's demise, Chun-Li acknowledges that she has no choice but to uncover the truth. She finally understands that she is indeed a workaholic, constantly driven to fulfill her duty and protect others.

 

Juri's Story

 

Spoiler

Juri's story begins with her riding her motorcycle, filled with a burning desire to kill M. Bison, the man who took one of her eyes. However, before she could exact her revenge, Bison meets his demise.

 

Surprisingly, his death intensifies Juri's rage, and she vows to obliterate him and his organization, Shadaloo, from the face of the world. She longs to annihilate him so completely that his corpse becomes unrecognizable, cursing him to rot in hell.

 

Despite her best efforts, Juri finds herself consumed by anger and questions why she is so furious. In her journey, she encounters Chun-Li, an Interpol agent. Chun-Li confronts Juri, accusing her of finding ways to continue her evil deeds even after Shadaloo's downfall. Juri dismisses Chun-Li's words, considering her the last person who should be lecturing her.

 

Juri sarcastically remarks to Chun-Li, "Bison bit it, and that's it? Daddy's avenged, time to retire?" Chun-Li responds by suggesting that revenge alone should not be Juri's sole purpose. She tells Juri that she, too, is one of Bison's victims and urges her to atone for her crimes and change her wicked ways. However, Juri mocks Chun-Li, claiming she has no intention of atoning for anything and challenges Chun-Li to provide a more compelling lecture if she expects Juri to learn something from her.

 

Reflecting on her encounter with Chun-Li, Juri sits on her motorcycle near the water, gazing at a cat. The phrase "You, too, are one of Bison's victims" replays in her mind, fueling her deep-seated hatred for Chun-Li. Juri acknowledges her intense animosity towards Chun-Li, as she struggles with her inner turmoil and the choices she must make going forward.

 

JP's Story

 

Spoiler

JP, seated on a throne, contemplates his schemes and the significance of Nayshall, a developing nation where he hosted a martial arts tournament. He admits that his primary motive for supporting Nayshall was to use it as a front for his money laundering operation. However, the tournament unexpectedly brought various individuals into JP's path—some seeking his acquaintance, others aiming to stop him, and some intending to manipulate him. He finds this convergence of people fascinating.

 

During his time in Nayshall, a young woman named Kimberly arrives seeking answers about her uncle, who lost his life in the Nayshall terrorist bombing. JP, emanating a dark aura, confronts Kimberly and inquires if she is among those challenging him. Recognizing JP as "Johan Petrovic," Kimberly requests information about her uncle. JP, seemingly willing to comply, begins to share details with her.

 

After the conclusion of JP's tournament, he reflects on the power of crowds, arenas, and prizes, realizing their allure and similarities to Bison's penchant for incorporating martial arts tournaments into his plans for world domination. Although JP finds this illogical, he starts to comprehend the appeal of such events. His laughter fills the room as his dark aura intensifies, engulfing him in red spikes.

Kimberly's Story

 

Spoiler

Kimberly, in her room, reflects on a strange coincidence that led her to solve a mathematical formula on an internet forum. After completing it, she receives a direct message from someone named "Shaobing." They inform her about a code that combines the formula she solved with the Nayshalli language, which surprises Kimberly. Nayshall holds a personal connection for her as her uncle tragically lost his life there. The code she cracked becomes the catalyst for her quest to uncover the truth.

 

As Kimberly embarks on her journey, she encounters numerous people and engages in countless battles. However, her focus remains on the person she believes is pulling the strings behind the events. Later, she is approached by JP, who Kimberly suspects has information about her uncle, Al Jackson, who used to work with  him. She confronts JP and demands to know everything about her uncle.

 

After a fierce fight with JP, Kimberly emerges victorious but feels a sense of unease. JP cautions her about the danger of unwarranted confidence and surrounds himself in a dark purple aura. He advises her to forget what transpired and bids her farewell. Despite her victory, Kimberly realizes that she is not yet strong enough to face a formidable opponent like JP.

 

In the aftermath, Kimberly acknowledges that she couldn't extract any information from JP. However, she realizes that she still has much training ahead of her to confront such a monstrous adversary. She reaffirms her determination and utters a Bushinryu mantra, emphasizing her commitment to further improve her skills.

 

Dhalsim's Story

 

Spoiler

Dhalsim finds himself surrounded by fellow Yogis in training, introducing himself as a practitioner of Yoga. He acknowledges the changing times and the people who have lost their way, making it one of Yoga's purposes to guide them back. Despite his own internal conflicts and contradictions, Dhalsim resolves to continue fighting, using Yoga as his guiding force.

 

During his travels, Dhalsim senses an incredible power that appears to have been dormant. Intrigued, he decides to investigate further. Through his teleportation, he arrives near Lily, a young girl from the Thunderfoot Tribe.

 

Lily mistakes Dhalsim for a spirit due to his appearance and asks if he has a message for her. Dhalsim introduces himself as a monk and expresses his desire to understand her strength. Eager for a fight, Lily accepts the challenge.

 

After their battle, Lily is amazed by Dhalsim's ability to float and compares him to a spirit. Dhalsim notes that the power he sensed earlier has disappeared. Lily suggests that Dhalsim should meet Singing Wolf, believing they would be on the same wavelength.

 

Considering Lily's words, Dhalsim agrees to meet Singing Wolf, intrigued by the idea. He ponders the power he sensed earlier, which he believes may have been the Satsui no Hado.

 

Dhalsim hopes that his initial perception was mistaken, as the thought of encountering such a dark force concerns him.

 

[DarthEnderX]

4 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

What? When? How?

He hasn't been around his family since the events of the comic, which was like 4 years before the game.

[Hawkingbird]

18 minutes ago, Daemos said:

He abandoned his wife and kid for FOUR YEARS. Incredibly formative years for his kid mind you. He abandoned his business to the vultures too.
 

He spent all that time hiding and wondering if he should kill a guy without ever mustering the courage of following through with his revenge. FOUR years is a huge amount of time!

Where was it established its been four years? Do I get it from Mel when I met him in WT?

[Daemos]

11 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

What? When? How?

The comic shows us the first Suval'hal tournament. Your Cac participates in the 5th one. The assumption being made is that this is an annual event so 4 years.

Edited June 18, 2023 by Daemos

[DarthEnderX]

3 minutes ago, Daemos said:

The comic shows us the first Suval'hal tournament. Your Cac participates in the 4th one. The assumption being made is that this is an annual event so 4 years.

Also Mel looks significantly older in WTM than in the comic.

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by DarthEnderX

[Darc_Requiem]

7 minutes ago, DarthEnderX said:

He hasn't been around his family since the events of the comic, which was like 4 years before the game.

Damn, he's pulled a Guile.

[Daemos]

1 minute ago, DarthEnderX said:

Actually, that would only be 3 years.  But this.

Also Mel looks significantly older in WTM than in the comic.

Typo. It's 5th. I fixed it.

Basically, the game takes place 7-10 years after SF3 with the comic happening in the middle of that time jump.

Edited June 18, 2023 by Daemos