Darc_Requiem Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, AriesWarlock said: https://www.cbr.com/mcu-anthony-mackie-calls-out-harry-potter-diversity-problem/ "I want to see Frodo in the hood" 🤔 Bruh, Leprechaun in the hood was bad enough.... 38 minutes ago, iStu X said: @AriesWarlockIf you aren't married fam, she's the one. Hecatom, DoctaMario, RSG3 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: Bruh, Leprechaun in the hood was bad enough.... @AriesWarlockIf you aren't married fam, she's the one. if she can cosplay Juri!! Hecatom and Abbachio 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) On 7/5/2023 at 5:10 PM, AriesWarlock said: if she can cosplay Juri!! She can high five and handshake with her feet. Juri cosplay would be easy mode for her. Edited July 11, 2023 by Darc_Requiem Abbachio and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
Hecatom Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 TheInfernoman and Dracu 2 Quote Link to comment
DoctaMario Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 6 hours ago, AriesWarlock said: https://www.cbr.com/mcu-anthony-mackie-calls-out-harry-potter-diversity-problem/ "I want to see Frodo in the hood" 🤔 Someone should tell this dude he has an agent, he doesn't need to be fishing for gigs like that RSG3, OPTIMUS124, Hecatom and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 I've been around some of the most cutthroat hood niggas ever and they never call me a white boy. Meanwhile, black women love saying that shit. I feel like they be hatin on me cuz their babydaddies can't read without putting their finger under the words 😂 Chadouken, BB_Hoody, DangerousJ and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
Jion_Wansu Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Who should be responsible/accountable for these TikTok Kia and Hyundai thefts committed mostly by people under 18 years of age? Over here kids stole one of those and killed an innocent truck driver by smashing into it. The thieves survived somehow. DoctaMario 1 Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 The thieves. Duh. Darc_Requiem, DoctaMario and Hecatom 3 Quote Link to comment
MillionX Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 ..another cool lore vid I was checking out earlier on my favorite vamp clan in World of Darkness... Reticently 1 Quote Link to comment
Jion_Wansu Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Should people like "Kia Boys" get charged: https://www.insider.com/tiktok-kia-challenge-using-usb-cables-to-steal-cars-2022-7 Seems like social media is the reason for these types of crimes and challenges, etc. Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Hecatom, MillionX, Chadouken and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment
VirginDefiler Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/ i find it shocking that theres more peeps in california than in all of canada. i wonder why more americans dont immigrate to canada. like there cant be much competition in the workforce over there. Quote Link to comment
MillionX Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Things are only going to continue and get worse as long as there is not proper consequences. Whenever the punishment is light or nothing at all then people will continue doing whatever nonsense it is they want to do.... and yeah I'd say it's because most humans are opportunistic, untrustworthy scum....not an ounce of morals, honor, or even basic levels of decency, respect, etc. ...like sentient trash that should be thrown away or burned to nothing, basically. ...and again I must admit that this view of the human species might be admittedly skewed because of the terrible, embarrassing "city" I happened to be raised in....but then again, I also wonder if I would have a view that is overly optimistic/naive if I grew up in a generally nicer/safer place. Daemos 1 Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Jion_Wansu said: Should people like "Kia Boys" get charged: What do you think dude? Jion_Wansu 1 Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 hour ago, VirginDefiler said: i wonder why more americans dont immigrate to canada. What makes you think Americans qualify to immigrate to Canada in the first place? Daemos 1 Quote Link to comment
VirginDefiler Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 idk. they speak english and live right next door. wait, why wouldnt they qualify tho? Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, VirginDefiler said: idk. they speak english and live right next door. wait, why wouldnt they qualify tho? Same reason we don't just let Canadians and Mexicans move here. Canada has requirements you have to meet to immigrate there. You can't just up and move there from America and become a citizen. There's a whole immigration process you go through, you have to meet their standards to qualify. Just speaking English might not be enough considering how much of Canada is French. Edited July 6, 2023 by RSG3 Hecatom and BB_Hoody 2 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Also, we don't drink Tim Horton's coffee and say soh-ree ,eh? Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) Speaking of Canada, that reminds me self-proclaimed "Canada's best SF player" JSMaster fell off the map after SFIV Edited July 6, 2023 by AriesWarlock BB_Hoody 1 Quote Link to comment
BB_Hoody Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, HD-Man said: I've been around some of the most cutthroat hood niggas ever and they never call me a white boy. Meanwhile, black women love saying that shit. I feel like they be hatin on me cuz their babydaddies can't read without putting their finger under the words 😂 I've been hit with that too. I've learned sistas are quick to throw the "White boy" label. At a brotha who they deem out of the norm. Like you got good credit. A job that isn't the norm, your personality isn't loud and in your face like other hood brothas etc. Basically you display qualities that make them feel. You wouldn't give a hood sista a chance. "Girl who's that brotha ova there?" "Girl don't even bother. He a white boy. You can tell he's into Becky and Ling Ling. He don't want us" Edited July 6, 2023 by BB_Hoody MillionX and HD-Man 2 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Diversity in LotR or Harry Potter I'm fine with...."Frodo in the hood" I'm not. HD-Man and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
Hecatom Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 HD-Man, Abbachio, Chadouken and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
Hecatom Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) Just now, Sonichuman said: Diversity in LotR I am not. LotR is meant to represent a mythological england. Is as absurd as trying to insert "diversity" on mayan myths for example. I don't need to see a tetra mixed latino to connect with the story. Edited July 6, 2023 by Hecatom Nym, DoctaMario and Daemos 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Just now, Hecatom said: I am not. LotR is meant to represent a mythological england. Is as absurd as trying to insert "diversity" on mayan myths for example. The diversity isn't hurting anything since like you said...it's mythological. It ain't real. The only thing that could be considered real is just the fact that it's kinda based on England but that's it. Having a black Dwarf, an asian elf, or a hispanic hobbit isn't going to really change anything. You're just changing melanin on a character. "Frodo in the hood" I'm not ok with because that implies unnecessarily changing the story of the personality of a character from the story which will likely not serve any purpose and could potentially make it worse. Hecatom, RSG3, HD-Man and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Hecatom Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) Just now, Sonichuman said: The diversity isn't hurting anything since like you said...it's mythological. It ain't real. The only thing that could be considered real is just the fact that it's kinda based on England but that's it. Having a black Dwarf, an asian elf, or a hispanic hobbit isn't going to really change anything. You're just changing melanin on a character. "Frodo in the hood" I'm not ok with because that implies unnecessarily changing the story of the personality of a character from the story which will likely not serve any purpose and could potentially make it worse. Is a massive disrespect towards the author and his work. The characters and races of LotR are already well established, defined and described in the works. Inserting diversity is absurd, since is disingenuous and tokenizing, not to mention that it implies that we should be happy to get sloppy seconds. Instead of trying to "fix" old works, I rather have new works that represent the era they are made on (good works, that is.) Plus, this "diversity" push is always done on works that are european/white centric. Is racist as fuck, specially because you don't see the same push to make something similar on works from other areas/cultures. It is what it leads to absurd shit like claiming that Cleopatra was black. Edit There is more value in having something like Encanto than a mexican hobbit. Edited July 6, 2023 by Hecatom Daemos, Faltimar the Dark, DoctaMario and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 34 minutes ago, BB_Hoody said: I've been hit with that too. I've learned sistas are quick to throw the "White boy" label. At a brotha who they deem out of the norm. Like you got good credit. A job that isn't the norm, your personality isn't loud and in your face like other hood brothas etc. Basically you display qualities that make them feel. You wouldn't give a hood sista a chance. "Girl who's that brotha ova there?" "Girl don't even bother. He a white boy. You can tell he's into Becky and Ling Ling. He don't want us" Lol yeah, i lowkey been thinking they feel intimidated. I can cookz do my own resumes and job applications so that scares them. Odd thing is a chick that I been chatting with consistently is the one that said that. She definitely wants the D but she is probably insecure cuz her babdydaddies took classes behind the school for 4 periods straight 🤣 BB_Hoody 1 Quote Link to comment
Reticently Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) Tolkien had non-white people in Middle Earth. Specific mentions of them are rare, but they're there and for the most part Tolkien wasn't usually harping on what anybody's skin color was if they weren't some sort of especially "fair" elf anyway. So I don't think think having a mixed race cast portraying Middle Earth is exactly pissing on his grave or anything. Edited July 6, 2023 by Reticently OPTIMUS124 and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sonichuman said: Diversity in LotR or Harry Potter I'm fine with...."Frodo in the hood" I'm not. I'm not. Just like I'm not okay with it in The Witcher on Netflix either. It messes with the established lore. If I write a story taking place in mythical land based on sub-Saharan Africa. It shouldn't have a diverse cast. It should be filled with almost exclusively brown people. Edited July 6, 2023 by Darc_Requiem Hecatom, Daemos, MillionX and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BB_Hoody said: I've been hit with that too. I've learned sistas are quick to throw the "White boy" label. At a brotha who they deem out of the norm. Like you got good credit. A job that isn't the norm, your personality isn't loud and in your face like other hood brothas etc. Basically you display qualities that make them feel. You wouldn't give a hood sista a chance. "Girl who's that brotha ova there?" "Girl don't even bother. He a white boy. You can tell he's into Becky and Ling Ling. He don't want us" Sounds like yall have a bit of racism in your culture to deal with. Edited July 6, 2023 by RSG3 iStu X, Hecatom and DoctaMario 3 Quote Link to comment
BB_Hoody Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 1 minute ago, RSG3 said: Sounds like yall have a bit of racism in your culture too deal with. There's a LOT of shit to deal with in our culture. Associating success outside of entertainment and sports. And/or just being functional and mentally healthy with trying to be white. Is just the tip of the iceberg. RSG3, HD-Man, Abbachio and 6 others 7 2 Quote Link to comment
MillionX Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 ah yes I was waiting on this one Quote Link to comment
VirginDefiler Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 BornWinner, Jion_Wansu, MillionX and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Jion_Wansu and BornWinner 2 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Spoilers if you are like most and haven't seen the Bile of Destiny Chadouken 1 Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Idk guys, I think I kinda wanna see Frodo in the Hood. Leprechaun in the Hood was a hilarious hood classic, shit went double uranium in the streets 😂 OPTIMUS124, Darc_Requiem and DoctaMario 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Gimpy said: In Texas? How many rounds did they unload into his dumbass? DoctaMario and OPTIMUS124 2 Quote Link to comment
Red Rock Candy Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Soo yea... France is on fire. Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Hecatom said: Is a massive disrespect towards the author and his work. The characters and races of LotR are already well established, defined and described in the works. Inserting diversity is absurd, since is disingenuous and tokenizing, not to mention that it implies that we should be happy to get sloppy seconds. Instead of trying to "fix" old works, I rather have new works that represent the era they are made on (good works, that is.) Plus, this "diversity" push is always done on works that are european/white centric. Is racist as fuck, specially because you don't see the same push to make something similar on works from other areas/cultures. It is what it leads to absurd shit like claiming that Cleopatra was black. Edit There is more value in having something like Encanto than a mexican hobbit. Cleopatra is an actual person in history any changing of historical figure in work of non fiction is definitely not something to be touched. Take note, I also agree with you that I would much rather take an original character than have a race swap. That goes for just about any character in fiction. If the backstory of a character is tied to a specific region and it actually affects how that character is portrayed then it should be probably be left alone unless changing the character will actually have sort of benefit or its an alternate timeline deal (I.E. Ariel because Halle Bailey probably sang her ass off at the audition or Nick Fury). I'm not advocating for race swaps, I'm just not personally going to throw a massive fit if there happens to be a few characters in the background of a fictional fantasy setting that have some melanin in their skin. I know you have strong feelings on this and I get it cause I mostly agree with you. Its just that small amount that I'm just kinda "eh" about depending on the situation. 8 hours ago, Darc_Requiem said: I'm not. Just like I'm not okay with it in The Witcher on Netflix either. It messes with the established lore. If write a story taking place in mythical land based on sub-Saharan Africa. It shouldn't have a diverse cast. It should be filled with almost exclusively brown people. If it legit takes place historically in the sub-saharan then yeah I agree. Fantasy doesn't always have to follow the rules of reality though. OPTIMUS124 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 7 hours ago, BB_Hoody said: There's a LOT of shit to deal with in our culture. Associating success outside of entertainment and sports. And/or just being functional and mentally healthy with trying to be white. Is just the tip of the iceberg. Ahh yes...the good ole "You talk white" followed up with the usual retort of "no, I talk correctly". OPTIMUS124 and Jion_Wansu 2 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sonichuman said: Ahh yes...the good ole "You talk white" followed up with the usual retort of "no, I talk correctly". Rock B vs Epidemic: The war to end all wars BB_Hoody, Sonichuman, BornWinner and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
Saikyotic Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) Yuji Naka's actual sentencing--getting legit jail time Edited July 7, 2023 by Saikyotic Embedding bs RSG3, DangerousJ, DoctaMario and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Regarding that clip above... 1) The South Indian actor who says "dark and stormy-chance of drive by" was apparently a real "nigga" bc he stabbed his gf 23 times and went to prison. He was a fellow "Mallu" like Shyamalan and Liza Koshy. Sigh. 2) The guy who plays Jay (Tupac looking guy) was one of the few main actors in that film who I havent really seen in other films.. He's mostly been in TV shows. It's crazy that his career didnt' take off after this. This was the first movie I saw with: Seth Rogen Paul Rudd Jonah Hill Jane Lynch Kat Dennings (TITTAYS) Catherine Keener Kevin Hart Sonichuman, BornWinner, DoctaMario and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Sonichuman said: Cleopatra is an actual person in history any changing of historical figure in work of non fiction is definitely not something to be touched. Take note, I also agree with you that I would much rather take an original character than have a race swap. That goes for just about any character in fiction. If the backstory of a character is tied to a specific region and it actually affects how that character is portrayed then it should be probably be left alone unless changing the character will actually have sort of benefit or its an alternate timeline deal (I.E. Ariel because Halle Bailey probably sang her ass off at the audition or Nick Fury). I'm not advocating for race swaps, I'm just not personally going to throw a massive fit if there happens to be a few characters in the background of a fictional fantasy setting that have some melanin in their skin. I know you have strong feelings on this and I get it cause I mostly agree with you. Its just that small amount that I'm just kinda "eh" about depending on the situation. If it legit takes place historically in the sub-saharan then yeah I agree. Fantasy doesn't always have to follow the rules of reality though. I said a fictional place based on sub-saharan Africa. It's not a real place but in my story having a bunch of non brown people around would make no sense based on the setting. Tolkien and Sapkowski's works take place in fictional lands based on real ones. In the case of The Witcher. There are black people but not in the region the story takes place. So they've broken the lore. More specifically there has to be rules. You can't just change things because it's fantasy. There needs to be set parameters, I can't just throw cyborgs in a medieval fantasy IP because it's not based on historical events. If there is going to be some sort of race swapping at least put the effort into making fit the story intelligently. I watched a series on Netflix about Barbarians. It wasn't a documentary, it was fictional story taking place in a real setting. There was one black person in the entire cast and the way the show as written, her being there made sense. She was captured in Carthage and taken to Gaul by the Romans. Or a more known property, House of the Dragon. The made the entire Velarion family black. They took a foreign family not native to Westeros to make a family full black folks in area that should be filled with white people make sense. Edited July 7, 2023 by Darc_Requiem Hecatom, DoctaMario and TheInfernoman 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: I said a fictional place based on sub-saharan Africa. It's a real place but in my story have a bunch non brown people around would make no sense based on the setting. Tolkien and Sapkowski's works take place in fictional lands based on real ones. In the case of The Witcher. There are black people but not in the region the story takes place. So they've broken the lore. More specifically there has to be rules. You can't just change things because it's fantasy. There needs to be set parameters, I can't just throw cyborgs in a medieval fantasy IP because it's not based on historical events. If there is going to be some sort of race swapping at least put the effort into making fit the story intelligently. I watched a series on Netflix about Barbarians. It wasn't a documentary, it was fictional story taking place in a real setting. There was one black person in the entire cast and the way the show as written, her being there made sense. She was captured in Carthage and taken to Gaul by the Romans. Or a more known property, House of the Dragon. The made the entire Velarion family black. They took a foreign family not native to Westeros to make a family full black folks in area that should be filled with white people make sense. This whole thing is why I said what I said. Would cyborgs being in a medieval fantasy IP be weird and almost random AF? Yeah most def but I'm sure someone can find way to write it in and make it work. Couldn't be me though lol. I just think there's more gray area in this than you or Hecatom. I mean Joel was a White Texan in TLoU and Pedro played him extremely well in the TV show. Would I have preferred they kept all the actors the same race from the game? Yeah sure but I'm guessing Pedro acted his ass off at the audition (or he's just on fire at the moment..prob a bit of bit of A and B) and that's where we got one of if not the best live action VG adaptation out so far. When they get to part 2 I hope that everyone stays the same but if they happen to find some other woman of a different ethnicity to play Abby and they're ready for the smoke that's going to come with it then fucking god speed to her. Quote Link to comment
RSG3 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Sonichuman said: This whole thing is why I said what I said. Would cyborgs being in a medieval fantasy IP be weird and almost random AF? Yeah most def but I'm sure someone can find way to write it in and make it work. Couldn't be me though lol. Vampire Hunter D and Elric of Melnibone both do this extremely well. Sonichuman, Abbachio and J-ride 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, RSG3 said: Vampire Hunter D and Elric of Melnibone both do this extremely well. Vampire Hunter D is one of those things that I'm aware of and it's on my list of things I need to watch before I leave this mortal coil. DoctaMario, RSG3, HD-Man and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 I was too young to be watching that Vampire Hunter D anime movie. Ninja Scroll too 😂 Reticently, Abbachio and J-ride 3 Quote Link to comment
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