BornWinner Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) People like this are the reason zoners and grapplers aren’t strong in fighting games today. Also want to know how you’re going to call it Mario Party without bringing up the party man himself, Faust? Edited June 27, 2021 by BornWinner Phantom_Miria, Volta, M A R T I A N and 4 others 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 He's probably a Faust Main tho. Hawkingbird, Volt, Pair of Rooks and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, BornWinner said: People like this are Mans ran into 0 Sols or Rams. People like that are why the wrong things get nerfed. M A R T I A N, Volt and BornWinner 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 BornWinner, Volt, Reticently and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, Pair of Rooks said: The three categories of weight: heavy, medium, and woman. Pair of Rooks and KingTubb 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pair of Rooks said: Nago’s placement isn’t accurate. He’s either in the medium class, or in a medium-heavy class by himself. There’s a Millia air combo I was labbing that worked on everyone but Leo and Pot. I was assuming it wouldn’t work on Nago either, but it worked fine. not that it matters, but fwiw, I altered the combo a bit to do the same damage but work on everyone Edited June 27, 2021 by Mattatsu Pair of Rooks, Volta and Volt 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) So for RCC Cancel combos, if your the opponent is high enough, you can press jab to make whiff it and activate the fast RC and then finish the rest of the juggle. Giovanna, in the corner, can do : Close 5S > 2HS xx QCB K RRC cancel with jab (whiffs) , walk forward Close 5S > 2HS xx QCF K, Charged Dust for 217 damage. I made this up, give me all the glory. 😤 🙏 Edited June 27, 2021 by Sonero Gasarocky, BornWinner, Volt and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 (edited) 2K is crouching punch, it says so. Edited June 27, 2021 by Pair of Rooks Volt and Mattatsu 2 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Mattatsu said: Nago’s placement isn’t accurate. He’s either in the medium class, or in a medium-heavy class by himself. There’s a Millia air combo I was labbing that worked on everyone but Leo and Pot. I was assuming it wouldn’t work on Nago either, but it worked fine. not that it matters, but fwiw, I altered the combo a bit to do the same damage but work on everyone Maybe it's hurtboxes specific, as warned with Faust in general. I know Ky has an "Abel hand" after a particular grounded sword swing. Volt and Mattatsu 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, Sonero said: So for RCC Cancel combos, if your the opponent is high enough, you can press jab to make whiff it and activate the fast RC and then finish the rest of the juggle. Giovanna, in the corner, can do : Close 5S > 2HS xx QCB K RRC cancel with jab (whiffs) , walk forward Close 5S > 2HS xx QCF K, Charged Dust for 217 damage. I made this up, give me all the glory. 😤 🙏 I saw this Sol on stream stealing this but don't worry I wrote him a nasty letter in chat telling him it's called Perth-cancelling named after a famous incident at a Texas local. 😤 Volt and Sonero 2 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 Giovanna can also do funky juggles with her grounded flip. Sometimes she crosses under the slowed down buddy and she can hit them with the back end of the move. That throws up in the air for a juggle. I was able to do Close 5S xx Flip and had it set up the juggle but it is hard AF. Volt 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, Pair of Rooks said: Maybe it's hurtboxes specific Ahh yeah, that could be lol Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 BornWinner, EvilCanadian, Phantom_Miria and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Pair of Rooks said: Perth-cancelling I dont go by that name anymore so, in honor of my new one, call it a Salsa-Cancel. Mattatsu, Volt and Pair of Rooks 3 Quote Link to comment
Volt Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Phantom_Miria said: The three categories of weight: heavy, medium, and woman. Have you seen how women get when they get called fat? ArcSys was tryna survive man. 5 hours ago, BornWinner said: People like this are the reason zoners and grapplers aren’t strong in fighting games today. Also want to know how you’re going to call it Mario Party without bringing up the party man himself, Faust? Wait a minute... So, Boobs Enjoyer wants May, Axl, Chipp and Pot gone? 3 males and a flat girl? Darc_Requiem, Hawkingbird, BornWinner and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) I'm trying to understand this tech @Shahenzanslipped me. Instant-air normal from a blue RC, which hits crouchers. Normally there's a minimum height at which we can airdash, preventing IA normals that don't reach really low really fast. You escape this limitation by pressing j.H as soon as you leave the ground because j.H kills momentum or something? Or, because it's allowed to attempt a rising normal, and pressing dash button at same time doesn't do anything. Plink into blue RC. Now you're hovering an inch off the ground, so low that j.S will hit crouchers even though it looks like it shouldn't. But there's more. If opponent transitions from high block to crouching block, and a blue RC clockslows him, you can fuzzy him. Standing hurtboxes linger like in SFIV. So we can likely open up someone with two aerial normals in a row. Jump-in, which is blocked and they instinctively block low afterwards, but you immediately jump again, j.H + dash forward xx blue RC, back airdash j.S for the fuzzy. Back airdash necessary to hold the low height in time for j.S to come out. (Back airdash goes nowhere really, j.S has range to compensate.) I think I understand? Edited June 28, 2021 by Pair of Rooks Volt and Mattatsu 2 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Phantom_Miria said: The three categories of weight: heavy, medium, and woman. I heard it was women, men, old men. 👴 Anyway, Edited June 28, 2021 by Pair of Rooks Volt and Mattatsu 1 1 Quote Link to comment
EvilCanadian Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 where is goldlewis give me goldlewis Reticently, Phantom_Miria, Volt and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Pair of Rooks said: I heard it was women, men, old men. 👴 Anyway, Millia is playing the opposite game of SFV… it seems the only reason for this placement is because Woshige was a Millia main lol Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Faust I get but how are Zato and Pot playing MUGEN? Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Zato is so strong he got mixups going in his theme song. Alkipot, BornWinner, AriesWarlock and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Pair of Rooks said: I heard it was women, men, old men. 👴 Anyway, I don't understand the Mugen tier. What is he trying to say? I agree with most on the Twitter thread. Nago is playing sam Sho. How he's built he definitely belongs in that game. Edited June 28, 2021 by Hawkingbird Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 On that list...Millia needs to move to the Xrd spot and Gio needs to come down to the SF5 one. Vhozite, Pair of Rooks and Mattatsu 3 Quote Link to comment
Volt Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Faust def playing Smash. Mattatsu, Hawkingbird, Pair of Rooks and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 So I fought a Ky. And he ended all his Blockstrings in Stun Dipper. I didn't even attack him, I just waited for the Stun Dipper and then punished him for a big chunk. But he keeped trying. Lightning Car ain't safe. Also IBing the second hit is really easy. Pair of Rooks, Volt and Mattatsu 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said: But he kept trying. Take out Ky and Stun Dipper and replace them with almost anyone and you have 90% of my matches. Volt and KingTubb 2 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said: So I fought a Ky. And he ended all his Blockstrings in Stun Dipper. I didn't even attack him, I just waited for the Stun Dipper and then punished him for a big chunk. But he keeped trying. Lightning Car ain't safe. Also IBing the second hit is really easy. I don't know why so many Kys use that move so much, so incorrectly. I've had a similar experience, in the mirror match, where I'm punishing blocked SD with combo into SD. End blockstrings with fireball, hitconfirms with SD. For the S/HS gatlings of course. End jab gatlings with DirePastry oH or oB and sometimes even on whiff if the other guy's twitchy. End K/2D Gatling with arckick for the sideswitch otg. That's Ky ground game 101. Volt and JustBooming 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 AriesWarlock, Volt, HeavensCloud and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sonero said: Infinite blockstring that has two 3f+ gaps, loses to FB pushback, IB into button, all DPs, all armored moves, many supers, and possibly to stand block on sword toss again due to pushback. And if you somehow trade lows with Ram, who's really in more danger at that distance one sword down. Thx for the vid tho, I heard rumors of this. Volt, KingTubb and Hawkingbird 3 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Thats why it's called Pseudo infinite. It is not real, but it kinda works. Also I would not want to do this against a Pot who's chruning the butter. Reminds me, does the Easter Egg with Pots Potbuster Input still work? Inputing 360s I mean, haven't tried it in Strive. Quote Link to comment
Volt Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Pair of Rooks said: End K/2D Gatling with arckick for the sideswitch otg. You can do Charged Stun Edge and get some legit Oki to work with instead. Just need a slight delay or it'll fly past the opponent, but it's still a very good option on his arsenal. Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 54 minutes ago, Volt said: You can do Charged Stun Edge and get some legit Oki to work with instead. Just need a slight delay or it'll fly past the opponent, but it's still a very good option on his arsenal. I use this but haven't capitalized on the inevitable downback. Gotta try the blue IA tech during it, gotta try PRC dash xx arckick for the sideswitch during the fireball. Hell, gotta try overhead. Volt 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said: does the Easter Egg with Pots Potbuster Input still work? Inputing 360s I mean, haven't tried it in Strive Yes, and not just Pot I think. I keep meaning to test this with other HCB,F supers but forget. Also fuck this heatwave. Seattle is not prepared for triple digit weather. The mall fire alarms keep getting tripped from heat alone and post Covid restaurants can't handle a whole city that don't wanna use a stove. Quote Link to comment
Illwill88 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said: So I fought a Ky. And he ended all his Blockstrings in Stun Dipper. I didn't even attack him, I just waited for the Stun Dipper and then punished him for a big chunk. But he keeped trying. Lightning Car ain't safe. Also IBing the second hit is really easy. Finally got the chance to play today for a decent amount of time and pretty sure the ky I ran it back with a couple times was using this move alot , wish I knew that earlier. And fuck his stupid flip kick too. I'm only on the 7th floor so I'm getting away with alot of unsafe gimmicky bullshit. But hammerfall RC potbuster comebacks are godlike lol. GetTheTables 1 Quote Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 8 hours ago, Pair of Rooks said: Yes, and not just Pot I think. I keep meaning to test this with other HCB,F supers but forget. Also fuck this heatwave. Seattle is not prepared for triple digit weather. The mall fire alarms keep getting tripped from heat alone and post Covid restaurants can't handle a whole city that don't wanna use a stove. That was a specific thing for Pot. They did something similar with Kanji in P4A, where his Commandgrabs were QCs and double QCs, however he could also input 360s and 720s to get advantages from it. More Damage and I believe shorter recovery or was it more invul? One of the two. I don't think it works with other 632146 Inputs, I tried it yesterday with Tyrant Rave and got nothing from it. Pair of Rooks and Volt 1 1 Quote Link to comment
KingTubb Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 You can only 360 potbuster, other 632146 inputs have to be done "correctly". Pair of Rooks 1 Quote Link to comment
BornWinner Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) I have heard that you could do 6246 instead of 632146 for a shortcut. Can’t find the post right now though. Edited June 29, 2021 by BornWinner Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, BornWinner said: I have heard that you could do 6246 instead of 632146 for a shortcut. Can’t find the post right now though. Yeah there's 4646 for QCFx2 as well, not that that means much for us pad warriors. I think I read 6236 for DP which is just awful if true Quote Link to comment
Volt Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Pair of Rooks said: I think I read 6236 for DP which is just awful if true It's *very* common in ArcSys games and you'll learn to love it. Especially if you wanna combo 6H into DP. 2 hours ago, BornWinner said: I have heard that you could do 6246 instead of 632146 for a shortcut. Can’t find the post right now though. *Looks at pad.* Bro, it's only a shortcut if you operate your hitbox like a grandma typing. 🤣 This is literally the same motion written without the diagonals wtf? Quote Link to comment
KingTubb Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Volt said: This is literally the same motion written without the diagonals wtf? yup! I could see it being a big help if you were playing on a korean lever with tiny corners, like a crazy dongpal or something, but for any stick with a gate, a pad, or a hitbox it's not really a shortcut. I think it would be a bigger shortcut/cheat if you could do 63146. That down input is pretty easy to miss on hitbox Edited June 29, 2021 by KingTubb BornWinner 1 Quote Link to comment
Volt Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 44 minutes ago, KingTubb said: yup! I could see it being a big help if you were playing on a korean lever with tiny corners, like a crazy dongpal or something, but for any stick with a gate, a pad, or a hitbox it's not really a shortcut. I think it would be a bigger shortcut/cheat if you could do 63146. That down input is pretty easy to miss on hitbox Can't relate. #AnalogGang Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Fun considering that taunt cancelling was a thing in the first Guilty Gear too, except in that game it was completely broken and it gave everyone infinites. Volt 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post M A R T I A N Posted June 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2021 I weathered many Rams and flowchart Millias for this bag. 😩 We stay gatekeeping celestial now ✊🏾 JustBooming, Reticently, BornWinner and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment
BornWinner Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 First things first: Amazing name and tagline. Well done (How dare you)! I heard that Nagoriyuki is one of the least seen characters in Heaven recently. So congratulations to being one of the few. Volt, M A R T I A N and Mattatsu 3 Quote Link to comment
PussyStuffer Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 i hear this game has gdlk netcode...but a shitty roster. opinions on its roster? Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, PussyStuffer said: i hear this game has gdlk netcode...but a shitty roster. opinions on its roster? Small but good. It's 15 characters, so less than SFV on release, but they're all pretty diverse and unique. Mattatsu 1 Quote Link to comment
Volt Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 39 minutes ago, PussyStuffer said: i hear this game has gdlk netcode...but a shitty roster. opinions on its roster? Roster is fine and we're getting 5 characters per Shill Pass. That's gonna add up quick. Everyone got their own style and you can express your own even further because they aren't hard-capped into having one way to be played. Honestly, most people that diss the roster are hatin because their mains didn't make it or because they're jealous because their fav game ain't it. Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, KingTubb said: I think it would be a bigger shortcut/cheat if you could do 63146. That down input is pretty easy to miss on hitbox Won't somebody think of the poor cheatbox users? 😥 1 hour ago, PussyStuffer said: i hear this game has gdlk netcode...but a shitty roster. opinions on its roster? Roster is fine unless you're a vet who's main is missing. I surprised no one blew a gasket cause most of the cast looks postpubescent now. Hecatom and Mattatsu 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 hours ago, M A R T I A N said: I weathered many Rams and flowchart Millias for this bag. 😩 We stay gatekeeping celestial now ✊🏾 You could print that on good paper and stick it on your wall. M A R T I A N and Mattatsu 2 Quote Link to comment
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