Sonero Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Russia has a perplexing amount of Neo Nazis. Perplexing because with the amount of deaths they caused Russians in WW2. Any type of actual cleansing would've come out already. Dude been in power for near 20 years. If Putin didn't want Jews in Russia, he'd gotten rid of them by now. Quote Link to comment
Maxx Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Sonero said: Russia has a perplexing amount of Neo Nazis. Perplexing because with the amount of deaths they caused Russians in WW2. Any type of actual cleansing would've come out already. Dude been in power for near 20 years. If Putin didn't want Jews in Russia, he'd gotten rid of them by now. Thats not how the game works anymore. He wants to pretend to be a good guy. He isnt just gonna off the jewish people like that. His allies would bounce the fuck out including china. So they make it real uncomfortable to be a russian jew. Countries that commit genocide like that are never welcome at the table. Look at how china is dealing woth weegers... They sneaky about it Edited February 24, 2022 by Maxx zatalcon3, Darc_Requiem, elliephil and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Maxx said: Thats not how the game works anymore. He wants to pretend to be a good guy. He isnt just gonna off the jewish people like that. His allies would bounce the fuck out including china. So they make it real uncomfortable to be a russian jew. Countries that commit genocide like that are never welcome at the table. Look at how china is dealing woth weegers... They sneaky about it Look, we found out about the forced vasectomies and all the other stuff happening with Pakistan that Israel did; he found out about Uyghurs relatively fast; we've found out about all sorts of shit. You know who have gotten interviewed even in the west about their situation? LGBTQ people in Russia. That shit made it to Glenn Beck's radio show. So it isn't that there aren't human rights abuses going on in Russia. I'm just skeptical that its here because it doesn't square out with what I know, But hey, Ukraine taking shots anyway: Quote Link to comment
Maxx Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Sonero said: Look, we found out about the forced vasectomies and all the other stuff happening with Pakistan that Israel did; he found out about Uyghurs relatively fast; we've found out about all sorts of shit. You know who have gotten interviewed even in the west about their situation? LGBTQ people in Russia. That shit made it to Glenn Beck's radio show. So it isn't that there aren't human rights abuses going on in Russia. I'm just skeptical that its here because it doesn't square out with what I know, But hey, Ukraine taking shots anyway: I know nothing about Pakistani vasectomy.. But i heard about Ethiopian refugees supposedly being forced to do this Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) I literally have no words for what the fuck's happening right now imagine waking up to read reddit and see that your country has invaded and is waging a full on war on a brotherly nation Edited February 24, 2022 by PVL_93_RU Sonero, DoctaMario, RSG3 and 6 others 8 1 Quote Link to comment
MillionX Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) I guess the oh-so-terrible "sanctions" wasn't threatening enough, eh? 😆 Putin was probably laughing his ass off about that and after the phone call with Sleepy Joe recently. Oh no, not the SANCTIONS!!! Weak ass bullshit... Well, hopefully this doesn't go into actual WW3 like some are predicting....then again, "murphy's law" tends to be exactly how things play out in this world. Whatever is the worst case scenario---THAT is indeed what's going to happen. Edited February 24, 2022 by MillionX Quote Link to comment
elliephil Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Would be interesting to see a legitimate psychiatric evaluation on leaders like Putin. Or really any hegemon. HD-Man, RSG3 and DangerousJ 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 hours ago, PVL_93_RU said: literally have no words for what the fuck's happening right now imagine waking up to read reddit and see your country is waging a full on war on a brotherly nation Stay safe bro. elliephil, DoctaMario, OPTIMUS124 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 2 hours ago, MillionX said: I guess the oh-so-terrible "sanctions" wasn't threatening enough, eh? 😆 Putin was probably laughing his ass off about that and after the phone call with Sleepy Joe recently. Oh no, not the SANCTIONS!!! Weak ass bullshit... Well, hopefully this doesn't go into actual WW3 like some are predicting....then again, "murphy's law" tends to be exactly how things play out in this world. Whatever is the worst case scenario---THAT is indeed what's going to happen. Politics are a mother fucker. We're not trying to escalate the situation any further to lead to a potential WWIII unless its the absolute last resort cause if it comes to that its not gonna be good for ANYBODY...even people not involved. The sanctions are an attempt at a long term solution to put pressure on him without directly involving ourselves cause the moment we directly blow up or kill russian soldiers or vice versa then all bets are off. DangerousJ, Volt and RSG3 3 Quote Link to comment
Reticently Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sonero said: Russia has a perplexing amount of Neo Nazis. Russia had that whole pogrom thing back in the day; place completely had the anti-Semitism violence thing going on independent of anything that eventually went on in Germany. And given how anti-Semitism and Nazism are basically co-branded these days, I can see how that crossover happens. Edited February 24, 2022 by Reticently RSG3 and Sonero 1 1 Quote Link to comment
MillionX Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Man... imagine how wrecked life is now for the average Ukrainian person...just trying to get away from it all, and apparently many are having trouble getting money out of the bank, so that's another shitty little detail in the mix there. Imagine, you have a decent amount or anything saved... but now the end of your country is in progress, and you have no choice but to leave with nothing....starting life over somewhere else. Edited February 24, 2022 by MillionX Quote Link to comment
OPTIMUS124 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sonichuman said: Politics are a mother fucker. We're not trying to escalate the situation any further to lead to a potential WWIII unless its the absolute last resort cause if it comes to that its not gonna be good for ANYBODY...even people not involved. War is another tool for politics. Sonichuman and DoctaMario 2 Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 This is the same country that protested and rioted because they didn't want to be inconvenienced by having to wear a mask in public places,we are in no way ready for WAR. We need to pray this shit with Russia and Ukraine smoothes over and doesn't escalate further..... MillionX and OPTIMUS124 2 Quote Link to comment
NinetiesArcades Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 The world is still dealing with this Covid bullshit; ain't got no time for a fucking world war. With everything nowadays so interconnected, one or another, why risk it? Russia imo is still dreaming of the USSR days and wants to be 'recognize' again as a world power. It's the people living day to day is going to be hurt the most. Another scary thought; this is probably going to be the first full scale cyber warfare we are going to witness. Fuck man. OPTIMUS124 and DangerousJ 2 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, OPTIMUS124 said: War is another tool for politics. Correct...if it can be controlled. If this escalates and we come to blows directly then the only people who are going to benefit short term from it will be the military. Its gonna suck ass for everyone else. Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Hope team MAGA and those Rayband wearing dudes with bad hot takes online ready to suit up for war since they claim to love this country so much. I call their bluff 🤔 Quote Link to comment
MillionX Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) oh yeah, the U.S. is definitely not ready... while other areas of the world are still concerned with having a strong military force... we're over here concerned about it becoming so much more diverse and pushing certain "feel-good" agendas. That's not going to save the day when the barbarians are at the gate... when the shit hits the fan so to speak. Edited February 24, 2022 by MillionX HD-Man 1 Quote Link to comment
Lantis Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, HD-Man said: Hope team MAGA and those Rayband wearing dudes with bad hot takes online ready to suit up for war since they claim to love this country so much. I call their bluff 🤔 Wait didn't Trump praise Putin for the stunt he's pulling? Gotta give his kudos to his Russian overlords I suppose HD-Man, DarkSakul and DangerousJ 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10546799/More-150-senior-Russian-officials-sign-open-letter-condemning-Putins-invasion-Ukraine.html?ito=rss-flipboard @PVL_93_RU Whats the regular Russian citizen view of this situation? Quote Link to comment
DarkSakul Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, Lantis said: Wait didn't Trump praise Putin for the stunt he's pulling? Gotta give his kudos to his Russian overlords I suppose Pepperidge Farms remember when politicians careers are ruined if there a hint of supporting the Kremlin. Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Lantis said: Wait didn't Trump praise Putin for the stunt he's pulling? Gotta give his kudos to his Russian overlords I suppose It wasn't just Trump but him and a bunch of others who support Trump were supporting Putin. People were saying that Biden was antagonizing him and trying to (I say try but lets be real here...you don't really have to put effort in now a days) gaslight people of what was happening in front of their faces. So now that the invasion has happened I'm curious if they are gonna try to spin this or double down cause know they aren't gonna hold the L...its just not their M.O. RSG3 1 Quote Link to comment
NinetiesArcades Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Kinda insane Russia is willing to jeopardize the Nord Stream 2 project, an 11 BILLION dollar investment, which is practically complete and just waiting for approval over this Ukraine bs. Maybe Russia is still salty over what happened with the privatization of their local industry, especially oil(the book,Red Notice, explains this in detail)? Cold war result?? Who knows. Weird fact; US had a huge child adoption program with orphaned Russian kids back in the day but when Russia was accused of human rights violation, Russia answered by shutting down the adoption program; i mean wut? Quote Link to comment
Lantis Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sonichuman said: It wasn't just Trump but him and a bunch of others who support Trump were supporting Putin. People were saying that Biden was antagonizing him and trying to (I say try but lets be real here...you don't really have to put effort in now a days) gaslight people of what was happening in front of their faces. So now that the invasion has happened I'm curious if they are gonna try to spin this or double down cause know they aren't gonna hold the L...its just not their M.O. I'm guessing Trump and co. are just salty about the whole Hunter Biden fiasco that now they just want to see Ukraine crash and burn Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lantis said: I'm guessing Trump and co. are just salty about the whole Hunter Biden fiasco that now they just want to see Ukraine crash and burn I don't even think its that necessarily but more so the tow the political line regardless of what's going on thats been more prevalent for the past few years. Is the President for or against what's going on? Whatever it is if he's on the other side of the line do the opposite regardless. Quote Link to comment
elliephil Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Wait, where did anyone say anything about Jews being the target? I'm confused. Like, yeah. Putin kind of a 21st century version of a fascist dictator who uses "pragmatism" as a means of justification. Pretty sure the target is Ukraine specifically right now lol. Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10 hours ago, HD-Man said: That was quite easy to understand and that's super fucked up. Dick move, Russia. Somehow I got the feeling we, the US will be dragged into this The World: "Those damned American's put their nose in everyone's business." Shit Pops Off The World: "Those damned American's need to do something about this." Jion_Wansu, Camacho, DoctaMario and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment
zatalcon3 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Darc_Requiem said: The World: "Those damned American's need to do something about this." No one really says that though other than Americans themselves. I want Germany and Japan to do this. It would be very interesting to see the two monsters of the past resurface to take down the current monster, just like Kenshin Himura reverting to Battousai when the enemy provokes him enough. DoctaMario 1 Quote Link to comment
Camacho Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 It's interesting to see how many people who pose as anti war are all in when their selected media tells them to be. HD-Man, TheInfernoman, Abbachio and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment
NinetiesArcades Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Ukrainian ambassador summary of what happened so far. This is fucked. Quote Link to comment
VirginDefiler Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 i still believe all this is happening cuz the two geniuses trump/biden lost the afghani war. america showed a weakness it couldnt afford to show by losing that war. showed the world it was a paper tiger. heres the results. Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sonero said: Stay safe bro. I am. My life isn't in danger I have a friend un Ukraine however who lives to the north of Odessa, but for now she's okay. Hopefully it stays that way. 1 hour ago, Sonero said: Whats the regular Russian citizen view of this situation? It's a split. The brainwashed folk obviously believe everything that the media spits out so they think Ukraine is the aggressor here and we're the heroes protecting fellow Russians against genocide in Donetsk and Lugansk. But regardless it's not like anybody asked us Edited February 24, 2022 by PVL_93_RU Sonichuman, DoctaMario and Reticently 3 Quote Link to comment
Reticently Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: The World: "Those damned American's put their nose in everyone's business." Shit Pops Off The World: "Those damned American's need to do something about this." Quote Link to comment
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Lantis Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 But China and Russia are BFFs so that doesn't really count LOL Darc_Requiem, Sonichuman and OPTIMUS124 3 Quote Link to comment
Sonichuman Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Reticently said: 4 minutes ago, Lantis said: But China and Russia are BFFs so that doesn't really count LOL Did anybody legit ask China what they thought or if they'd condemn what Russia's doing? And if they did why does that big dummy have a job? Quote Link to comment
Reticently Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sonichuman said: Did anybody legit ask China what they thought or if they'd condemn what Russia's doing? From the article: Quote China’s assistant foreign minister, Hua Chunying, was asked by reporters several times whether she would call Russia’s attacks an invasion but she repeatedly avoided giving a yes or no answer. In response to one reporter, Hua appeared to express frustration at the question and said, “The U.S. has been fueling the flame, fanning up the flame, how do they want to put out the fire?” That’s according to an official translation of her Mandarin-language remarks. RSG3, Sonichuman and DoctaMario 3 Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) What is Vladimir even hoping to achieve? Annexation of big chunks of lands is impracticable, completely against international law, would turn Russia into a pariah state, would leave them with a massive territory with 40 millions of potentially hostile civilians, basically European Afghanistan, and likely force the West into total economic embargo. Invading temporarily with the purpose of toppling the Ukrainian government and install a pro-Russian puppet is more realistic, but would the Ukrainians accept a blatant puppet government? Wouldn't Russia have to support it militarily if the people turn against it, leading to a de-facto occupation that would lead to all the problems listed above? Is he invading to demilitarize Ukraine and then leave? So the local government will still be there and still be hostile to Russia, with even more reasons? He can't do that, he has to remove them, but then the problems with the puppet government start. Like, what's Putin winning strategy here? Is he hoping that Ukrainians will submit willingly like sacks of shit and accept de-facto or de-jure Russian rule? I hope for him he's right, because if his calculations are wrong then he's and Russia are potentially in a world of pain in the long term. The problem is not defeating Ukraine militarily, is what you do with it once you've won, how do you plan to keep a country whose population you antagonized for years aligned to your sphere of influence, and deal with the colossal diplomatic shitstorm you just caused. Also, this is not going into WW3: Ukraine is not NATO country and the controversy here is that Putin is blatantly breaking international law by waging an aggressive war and challenging the post-WW2 diplomatic order. NATO and the US will never engage directly with what's happening in Ukraine because they have no legal obligations to go to that extent, but can and must protest and oppose the illegality of what's happening. I read somewhere that even China isn't liking the invasion all that much even though they still support Russia because of shared anti-american interests. China's argument for its claims over Taiwan are based on the inviolability of national sovereignty, with Taiwan being technically part of Mainland China according to international law. Russia is kinda shitting on that legal principle, and that's why China is arguing that this isn't really an invasion. They'd end up contradicting themselves over their territorial disputes otherwise. What are Russian people thinking about what's happening, @PVL_93_RU? You don't really get any coverage about what Russians think about where your midget president is getting you into. Edited February 24, 2022 by Phantom_Miria DoctaMario and RSG3 2 Quote Link to comment
elliephil Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, VirginDefiler said: i still believe all this is happening cuz the two geniuses trump/biden lost the afghani war. america showed a weakness it couldnt afford to show by losing that war. showed the world it was a paper tiger. heres the results. Respectfully, Afghanistan is notorious for being nearly impossible to conquer and control. I'm not sure that has much to do with the current conflict. Even Russia couldn't win in Afghanistan. J-ride and DoctaMario 2 Quote Link to comment
iStu X Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 🤦♂️ Phantom_Miria, NinetiesArcades, Sonero and 4 others 1 6 Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Now that this shit with Russia popped off, where's Meal Team January 6th? This yall time to shine 👀 Edited February 24, 2022 by HD-Man NinetiesArcades, RSG3, OPTIMUS124 and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment
DangerousJ Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Peace through Tyranny sometimes involves working with miserable flesh creatures.... Behold... the next collaborative TF project. TF x GIOE Megatron HISS Tank w/Baroness VirginDefiler, NinetiesArcades, OPTIMUS124 and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment
VirginDefiler Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 "miserable flesh creatures" is lol. i personally like HK-47's insults from star wars kotor when he calls organic life forms "gland driven meat bags" still the best star wars character ever written. Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said: What is Vladimir even hoping to achieve? honestly nobody fucking knows. I've seen many speculate he's trying to rebuild USSR as he saw its collapse first-hand back in the day, hence the massive consolidation of power, iron grip regime, assault on Georgia, puppet governments in Belarus and Kazakhstan, and now slow annexation of Ukraine 55 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said: What are Russian people thinking about what's happening, @PVL_93_RU? You don't really get any coverage about what Russians think about where your midget president is getting you into. the propaganda-fed people in the age of 40 and above are obviously in support. The rest are either protesting on the streets right now or keep it anonymous in inner circles, but naturally aren't in support one thing's for sure is that the entire nation is shocked Volt, Reticently, AriesWarlock and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
OPTIMUS124 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, DangerousJ said: Peace through Tyranny sometimes involves working with miserable flesh creatures.... Behold... the next collaborative TF project. TF x GIOE Megatron HISS Tank w/Baroness I didn't see this coming at all. The price tag is a bit heavy though (89.99). DangerousJ 1 Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, PVL_93_RU said: the propaganda-fed people in the age of 40 and above are obviously in support. The rest are either protesting on the streets right now or keep it anonymous in inner circles, but naturally aren't in support one thing's for sure is that the entire nation is shocked I think Putin is betting on the fact that the Ukrainian army will collapse almost immediately, with barely even a fight, and that after that Ukrainians will just accept a Russian-aligned government because he's a Russian nationalist and he's really personally convinced that Ukraine has no native national identity that will oppose him. If he's wrong on just one of these bets this could be the mistake that will cost him his entire political career. A prolonged war or military occupation in the middle of Europe will be expensive, massively unpopular and impossible to hide. Even if it's not gonna be as bloody as Afghanistan the geographical and cultural proximity will make it feel just as bad. Without even having solid support at home this will be terrible for Putin in the long run. Quote Link to comment
HD-Man Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) Waiting to see if these so called gangstas ready to slide on Russia like they slide in these streets. Let's see if you know how to use all them guns they post on social media against trained killers overseas. I'll wait 👀 Edited February 24, 2022 by HD-Man OPTIMUS124, DoctaMario and J-ride 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, zatalcon3 said: No one really says that though other than Americans themselves. I wish that were the case. If something goes down in Europe. We are expected to handle it. The rest of NATO sat on their ass while Slobodan Milošević committed mass genocide. If something happens in Europe. We should be support not the main force. I'm cool with supporting our allies. We should not be fighting their battles. Edited February 24, 2022 by Darc_Requiem Wellman, J-ride, TheInfernoman and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said: If he's wrong on just one of these bets this could be the mistake that will cost him his entire political career. you're vastly understating just how much power he has. Age is literally the only thing that can end VP permanently. He's due for a reelection in 2 years, and after that will stay as president for another 12 until 2036 there's so much unknown here but I fear after today, in a few year's time, our country will completely fall apart Edited February 24, 2022 by PVL_93_RU DoctaMario 1 Quote Link to comment
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