Illwill88 Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Vhozite said: Not talking about but just you specifically, but it’s crazy to me that I see so many complaints about Drive Impact when Drive Rush is easily twice as dumb. I have complaints with both but the fact that drive rush freeze messes up your input when trying to check it blows Reticently 1 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Phantom_Miria said: For real. Anyone who hasn't realized that hasn't been hit with a 50% combo starting off a randomly buffered crMK that accidentally clipped their feet. I’m saying lol. Mfs tossing out advancing plus on block lows into full combo but that’s ok I guess 🤦🏽♂️ Edited June 16, 2023 by Vhozite Phantom_Miria and Reticently 2 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, Vhozite said: Not talking about but just you specifically, but it’s crazy to me that I see so many complaints about Drive Impact when Drive Rush is easily twice as dumb. -PVL93-, elliephil, Bigtochiro and 5 others 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 52 minutes ago, Vhozite said: Not talking about but just you specifically, but it’s crazy to me that I see so many complaints about Drive Impact when Drive Rush is easily twice as dumb. Difference is that Drive Rush is actually fun, at least for me. DI is just annoying to deal with because you have to completely structure your offense around it if someone is DI happy. Quote Link to comment
JustBooming Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Walk past what I believe is the home of@EvilCanadian more or less every day. At night, it lights up even! (sorry for shit photo, had to be kinda secretive and weird about taking the pic) Edit: ohh, I guess it's the Shadaloo gorilla or something. Edited June 17, 2023 by JustBooming Mattatsu, Vhozite, Darc_Requiem and 2 others 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Nemo thinks Happy Chaos is worse to face than JP and that ArcSys players are better at handling JP in general. BornWinner 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 There's different system mechanics between game and they're irrelevant because HC don't give a fuck about any of them. No way is JP worse than HC. I get Nemo wants some hot takes with SF6 out but HC us legit the stupidest shit made in the last 10 years. The guy whiffs a button, you go to whiff punish, he can still shoot, he randomly hits you and you lost. Oh and he has Chun Li length normals. HC is so ficking stupid that he single handedly demonstrated to me that ASW has no fucking idea what they are doing and people probably shouldn't play their games until they as a company start making sense. Vhozite, The Slick Tony and Shakunetsu 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) He's saying HC is worse to face/harder to fight, so you agree with him then. But yeah I agree can't really compare Strive with SF6 the rules are just different even if JP kind of breaks the mold. Edited June 17, 2023 by HeavensCloud Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Oh I misread that but honestly fuck how absolutely bush league that fucking character is. Normally i wouldn't cuss that much, but it is absolutely embarrassing that the alleged premier fighting game creator on the planet would release that type of nonsense. If you were making this in the 90s when nobody knew better...you know what fine. I'll give it to you that this came out in the wild lands. But this reeks of "ouroboros needs to be a level 3 but its fine that Zero's clone super is 1 bar and so is Vergil's belt". Somebody in design better explain themselves how they worked that math out because it doesn't make sense. At least MvC3 had 40+ characters. ASW out here taking 4 months working out a character and releasing a murder. Anybody wanna put bets on whether Rashid gets install or tornado as a level 2? Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Sonero said: Anybody wanna put bets on whether Rashid gets install or tornado as a level 2? I'm dreading Rashid release because the last of the Jamie players John Takeuchi and JB will probably switch back and then nobody will be carrying the Jamie torch 😭 Sonero 1 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Shakunetsu, BornWinner and ToreyBeans 1 2 Quote Link to comment
Genghis_Dong Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 @Vhozitethanks for the ass whooping. gotta take off and teach my newbie friends. Vhozite 1 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 @Genghis_Dongggs man. I’m gonna do a bit more training mode then hit the sack. Will def catch you another day 👍🏽 Genghis_Dong 1 Quote Link to comment
Genghis_Dong Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 @Vhozitei need to use some of those combos setups etc you had. only thing i had on you was random grabs which doesn't last. gg's and thanks for the sets. Vhozite 1 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) What characters would you guys say are strong against Manon? JP and Guile seem like the most obvious answers but I need other opinions. The last section of my Manon guide is tips for fighting her. You guys have more experience than me. Edited June 17, 2023 by Vhozite Quote Link to comment
HeavensCloud Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Vhozite said: What characters would you guys say are strong against Manon? JP and Guile seem like the most obvious answers but I need other opinions. The last section of my Manon guide is tips for fighting her. You guys have more experience than me. iDom said Juri is a hard matchup because Manon struggles against her slow fireball into Drive Rush. Vhozite 1 Quote Link to comment
Daemos Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 SF5 has some better stances and animations. You can clearly see the style differences here. 5 is like an Alpha game and 6 looks closer to 2. biachunli, Dracu, ToreyBeans and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Animation by hand will always be superior to motion capture, not exactly surprising I'm more disappointed by how flat 6 can look on comparison. Even at its ugliest, V at least has some style going on. But at 6's worst, it looking like a fucking ps3 game, especially in still shots I hope Capcom can at least implement some graphical filters on the future updates or add more vibrant and colorful stages. Some of the backgrounds in 6 are fucking dreadful and lifeless Edited June 17, 2023 by -PVL93- Daemos and Vhozite 2 Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 https://clips.twitch.tv/DiligentAverageOstrichRiPepperonis-tTIan1KqCIGbmQ97 Daemos, BornWinner and Hawkingbird 3 Quote Link to comment
Reticently Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Pair of Rooks, Phantom_Miria, BornWinner and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment
Daemos Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, -PVL93- said: I'm more disappointed by how flat 6 can look on comparison. Even at its ugliest, V at least has some style going on. But at 6's worst, it looking like a fucking ps3 game, especially in still shots Yeah I made note of that earlier in the thread. SF6 can look really flat when not lit properly. SF5's models have some innate texture/shading due to the artstyle that makes the colors pop and feel alive. It's very noticeable in World Tour in some areas where you meet the masters and the area is not lit the way the fighting is. Also some of the stances and how the animate is like a noticeable downgrade. Like in SF5 you really get the sense in earlier seasons that the animators took their time with some of these (compare it to Honda for example which is almost static and one of the few stance improvements in 6). I think both games have "lifeless" backgrounds and some questionable lighting decisions. It will be interesting to see how the quality of characters and stages changes over the next 2-3 seasons. -PVL93-, ToreyBeans and Dracu 3 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Yeah outside of Super Arts and hair I find SF6 to be a visual downgrade. The colors are less vibrant and it makes the characters look washed out. Between the washed out colors and the more realistic proportions Ryu looks like a damn cosplayer. I think the animations are a slight downgrade but the game makes up for it with (imo) better VFX. But really I do not like the color palette of the game. I also don’t like the smaller hands and feet. Big appendages is what makes SF’s style distinct. Edited June 17, 2023 by Vhozite -PVL93-, Illwill88, HeavensCloud and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Vhozite said: What characters would you guys say are strong against Manon? JP and Guile seem like the most obvious answers but I need other opinions. The last section of my Manon guide is tips for fighting her. You guys have more experience than me. I don't about matchups because I haven't seen enough high level gameplay yet and, while I think that Manon may struggle a little against fireballs and zoners, I also haven't found the Guile and JP matchups to be that uphill. In fact, I think that the few Guiles I met I beat most of them, while with JP is more about getting used to the matchup and the weird stuff he can do than anything else. I still feel like Manon's main weakness is lack of cancelable buttons which leave her particularly vulnerable to Drive Impact, and also weak-ish Drive Rush that is good enough in the important oki situation but doesn't let her easily in the opponent's face with plus frames like a lot of other characters can. Now, she probably should never be able to get in her opponent's face and being plus for free like characters with good Drive Rushes can, because she's a very strong grappler with good buttons and reach, but in the meta of SFVI this is still a considerable weakness in my opinion. I just wish I could stop getting punish countered because I threw a crouching light kick in neutral and apparently that has enough recovery that I can't recover in time to block the Drive Impact. So, my suggestion against Manon is that, if she's being belligerent with stHK and stHP, especially the second one which is the good hit confirm, just spam DI and you'll do way more damage to her than she will ever do even if she manages to not get clipped. Vhozite 1 Quote Link to comment
Pair of Rooks Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Reticently said: Grabbing her on the last frame of her install ending glitches her x coordinate Reticently, BornWinner, -PVL93- and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 What I don't like about Zangief's SF6 model is that he looks like muscly, smaller head, smaller and less pronounced mohawk. Face reminds me of Popeye's Brutus. Quote Link to comment
delete_me Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Phantom_Miria said: I don't about matchups because I haven't seen enough high level gameplay yet and, while I think that Manon may struggle a little against fireballs and zoners, I also haven't found the Guile and JP matchups to be that uphill. In fact, I think that the few Guiles I met I beat most of them, while with JP is more about getting used to the matchup and the weird stuff he can do than anything else. JP is a character where I actually see myself changing opinion on the matchup while playing it, wich probably means it's relatively balanced. Like he does with most characters he completely dominates her from full screen, but if you get to mid-screen you can actually punish him with either light or medium QCB Kick when he tries to go for any of his projectiles, while also having st.HK at your disposal which he can only really contest with jumping HP (oddly, neutral jumps from mid-screen can be very good vs. Manon with a lot of characters). After knockdown the mindgame about whether or not he'll wake up with EX counter starts but if you bait it a few times and ideally use those instances to level up your grabs they will start to panic in later rounds. I think Guile gives her more trouble, as does Dhalsim and, surprisingly, a solid Ryu. I also also have trouble against Blanka, but that's likely more of a player than a character thing. Phantom_Miria 1 Quote Link to comment
BornWinner Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 15 hours ago, Sonero said: Anybody wanna put bets on whether Rashid gets install or tornado as a level 2? If I had to guess, level 1 will be his tornado (albeit work completely different from how it was in 5) and level 2 will be his install. All the installs so far have been 2 whereas projectile supers are level 1s so far. My assumption as to why installs are locked to level 2s is because of burnout. Quote Link to comment
delete_me Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Just for the heck of it I decided to do my placement matches with Lily and ended up in Platinum 4, which is the highest rank among the three characters I've taken to that mode so far. I can see why she's considered bad in higher ranks because her conversions are a bit odd and you have to find spots to charge her windbuff (which btw. seems impossible to do in the JP matchup) but she's almost Marisa levels of braindead up until low/mid Platinum IMO. Just get the buff, fly in with Condor Spire, mash SPD until they start holding up, then switch to mashing cr.LP until the start blocking, then go back to mashing SPD. It's like playing Mika in Week 1 in SFV when everyone was just blocking her charged HK instead of challenging it. No offense @TWINBLADES, I'm sure you outplayed all your opponents.👨🎓 Reticently and Jocelot 2 Quote Link to comment
Doctrine_Dark Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Hawkingbird, CESTUS III, Flackaveli and 6 others 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post Darc_Requiem Posted June 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, Doctrine_Dark said: Pad and Hitbox players looking at this dude right now... The Slick Tony, Jocelot, Doctrine_Dark and 8 others 3 2 6 Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 20 hours ago, Daemos said: will be interesting to see how the quality of characters and stages changes over the next 2-3 seasons. Sure hope the DLC stages are more like Deejay, Lily, Marisa, JP than Dhalsim, Ryu, Jamie ones. Give the game a diverse range of color vibrancy Daemos and Reticently 2 Quote Link to comment
-PVL93- Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 The degeneracy is thriving 7 more years boys, 7 more years Flackaveli and Phantom_Miria 1 1 Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, AriesWarlock said: I'm not a fan of the breast enlargement on Cammy Daemos, Darc_Requiem, ToreyBeans and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Hawkingbird said: I'm not a fan of the breast enlargement on Cammy Yeah Cammy and Juri are the characters who don’t need air bags. Jurassic, -PVL93-, Hawkingbird and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Phantom_Miria, Jurassic, Darc_Requiem and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment
Sonero Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Happy Father's Day to the Family Man Squad! Also, LMAO JP https://twitter.com/Vxbao_tomie/status/1670319854791065607?t=U-mtGWFCafNujtbVQHkDaQ&s=19 Pair of Rooks, BornWinner, Illwill88 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 That reminds me, anyone seen Jerom lately The Slick Tony 1 Quote Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: That reminds me, anyone seen Jerom lately He is on discord. He played a set against @TWINBLADES last night Darc_Requiem, TWINBLADES and -PVL93- 3 Quote Link to comment
Phantom_Miria Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Mike Ross & The Will to keep Mashing. A tragic story with a surprising finale. https://clips.twitch.tv/AmericanDullHamWholeWheat-aU1_qwHG35NkXple Jocelot and BornWinner 2 Quote Link to comment
CDB2k20 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) Got my weekend 1 Juri to Sliver: *Spoilers tags used for video posting and for the Calvin Klein and skimpy outfit mods used* 😅 😍 Spoiler I'm going to switch from JP & Juri to using Kimberly and Ken for the rest of the week. Edited June 18, 2023 by CDB2k20 TWINBLADES, AriesWarlock, Vhozite and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Vhozite Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Is there something specific I have to do to use two controllers in world tour? Before I could just turn my Xbox controller on and I could use both that and my regular pad, but today I tried it and my pad stops working when I get into a battle. Quote Link to comment
AriesWarlock Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 @Skort TWINBLADES 1 Quote Link to comment
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Maravilla Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Man where cipher and flyingve at? Quote Link to comment
delete_me Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I wonder how many years it'll take until people realise they can skip the win animation. BornWinner, Phantom_Miria and TWINBLADES 3 Quote Link to comment
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