The MEGASHOCK Saloon Thread 3: Chinder Chagger Edition

[DangerousJ]

11 minutes ago, J-ride said:

I'm in decent shape, slim but not overly jacked.  I'm 42 and in pretty good shape compared to most people my age.  If I wanted to be jacked at my age I'd probably have to get on gear and I don't really see the point of risking my health to look like a SuperHero.

 

I avoid women in public in general.  I find interactions with them to be unpleasant.

 

 

Have you been criticized by black women for marrying a non black person?

[zatalcon3]

30 minutes ago, DangerousJ said:

Have you been criticized by black women for marrying a non black person?

Every black man who has married non black gets hated. I wish these black girls would just take the hint that maybe if they stopped looking so trashy and dropped the nikki minaj tupac bullshit then they would have better luck.

 

Oddly, I've heard many Filipina women criticize each other if they aren't dating anyone white. I recall some of my filipino friends in nyc complaining how hard it is for them to date, especially their own women because for some reason filipina women only date white guys. I don't encourage many white guys here to get their hopes up on this though, because it is still improbable for a few here to be able to date an average tier girl. Be content with the fat ugly girls that are meant for you.

[DoctaMario]

5 hours ago, RSG3 said:

Don't see how it's any different then all the Hollywood celebrities who thinknthey should get special treatment because of who they are. 

The difference is that a Hollywood celebrity usually has something they've done to warrant people famous, whereas the average social media chick just posts bikini pics and expects the world to simp for them. Nobody deserves special treatment just because they have more followers or are prettier. If they get it, that's one thing, but if they try to take it, nah, fuck outta here with that mentality.

[VirginDefiler]

i thought i was the only one here using resistence bands. but i only started using em recently.

[RSG3]

1 hour ago, DoctaMario said:

The difference is that a Hollywood celebrity usually has something they've done to warrant people famous

No they haven't. They've made movies, music, TV shows or some shit, it's literally no different. Mindy Kaling isnt better then some media influencer just because she gets to fuck up Scooby Doo with a budget. Influences make entertainment for people to sit on their ass and consume, no different then anyone in Hollywood. This reminds of when Bill Marr went on a dumb ass rant about Millenials and Gen Zers watching game streamers and how they both,  the streamers and viewers are wasting their lives....while he sits there on TV making content thats just his opinion, so really little actual value, for people who do what the stream viewers are doing, sitting on their asses watching a fucking box on their living room. How is a media influencer any different from The View? 

 

The only difference between these two groups imo is budget. That's it. One group has a far bigger budget then the other. Otherwise they make content to be consumed by consumers. They're  the same people. It's silly to try and seperate them. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[J-ride]

2 hours ago, DangerousJ said:

Have you been criticized by black women for marrying a non black person?

I'm not black.  But, no one cared in my family about my wife's ethnicity.  

[Chadouken]

12 minutes ago, J-ride said:

I'm not black.

What? For real?

[HD-Man]

Took my nephew to the circus. Shit was 🔥. Dude that balanced himself and jumped rope on some giant rotating metal platform type thing was definitely the highlight. He probably should've went last cuz that was a TOUGH act to follow. That act will definitely stick with me, can't stop thinking about it

[Dayaan]

6 hours ago, J-ride said:

I avoid women in public in general.  I find interactions with them to be unpleasant.

 

3 hours ago, VirginDefiler said:

i thought i was the only one here using resistence bands. but i only started using em recently.

Will report when they arrive.

[zatalcon3]

Oh, Max also is ugly. I haven't watched his youtube stuff in a long time.. but i never could last long because there is just something about him that makes me feel disgusted. He is like one of those white loner christian kids at HS who will always play a bad looking Jesus during an easter play or something. I don't know how to describe him but he just became a bad example for FG fans. We don't all have to be ugly. 

I swear. These famous players just make it look as if FG's where for the dudes who were too ugly and lame to get laid by even the nerdiest girls so they gave up and just stuck to the easiest thing that makes them happy and also above than what they are. If many of you are feeling like that, then just go to whole foods. There are so many fat ugly girls out there just waiting for you.

[axeman61]

 

[J-ride]

4 hours ago, Chadouken said:

What? For real?

Yep.  For some reason everyone thinks I'm black.  I'm the inverse @zatalcon3

 

[Hecatom]

 

[Hecatom]

 

[MillionX]

Oh yeah, Wishmaster is alright.... and a bit of horror trivia for ya--- this movie includes appearances by Robert Englund, Tony Todd and Kane Hodder!  So, we got the legendary Freddy, Candyman and Jason Voorhees actors all in one movie here.

 

The djinn is easily defeated though if you do a wish like "I wish were never released." Or "I wish you and all other djinn never existed." ---as long as the rule holds true that it is compelled to always grant the wish....but then that might create a paradox kind of situation...how could the wish have been granted if such a being never existed in the first place?  ...like if you invent a time machine, then go back in time and kill your past self before inventing the time machine.

Edited February 27, 2023 by MillionX

[BB_Hoody]

Shout out to all the dads that are raising and supporting their family the best they can. And if you've ever experienced this? Check that ish ASAP!

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by BB_Hoody

[Reticently]

Lol, not that I grew up around him, but my dad is a 70yo "retiree" living off of social security, with a cocaine habit, a recent plea bargain for street level dealing, a pending lawsuit against him for t-boning another car at an intersection, and a 4th wife who is also being sued for letting a neighborhood kid borrow an ATV unsupervised who then drove it off a cliff and ended up paralyzed from the neck down.

 

Oh, and he has prostate cancer too.  (My dad does, not the poor kid!)

[VirginDefiler]

sounds like a GTA sub character. is he playable?

[DoctaMario]

13 hours ago, RSG3 said:

No they haven't. They've made movies, music, TV shows or some shit, it's literally no different. Mindy Kaling isnt better then some media influencer just because she gets to fuck up Scooby Doo with a budget. Influences make entertainment for people to sit on their ass and consume, no different then anyone in Hollywood. This reminds of when Bill Marr went on a dumb ass rant about Millenials and Gen Zers watching game streamers and how they both,  the streamers and viewers are wasting their lives....while he sits there on TV making content thats just his opinion, so really little actual value, for people who do what the stream viewers are doing, sitting on their asses watching a fucking box on their living room. How is a media influencer any different from The View? 

 

The only difference between these two groups imo is budget. That's it. One group has a far bigger budget then the other. Otherwise they make content to be consumed by consumers. They're  the same people. It's silly to try and seperate them. 

So the difference between Daniel Day Lewis who has studied his craft, made some incredible movies, and is famous for being one of the great actors,  and the average Instagram bikini thot who thinks the world owes her something because she's semi attractive and has more followers than average is just BUDGET? Like Kim Kardashian could be winning Oscars for best actress of she just had a bigger budget? Really??  Am I missing something here?

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by DoctaMario

[AriesWarlock]

 

[Sonichuman]

2 minutes ago, AriesWarlock said:

 

Lord... I can see the smoke coming out of ears as she's trying to jump through the logic loops.  MAAM...stop!

[RSG3]

34 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

So the difference between Daniel Day Lewis who has studied his craft, made some incredible movies, and is famous for being one of the great actors,  and the average Instagram bikini thot who thinks the world owes her something because she's semi attractive and has more followers than average is just BUDGET? Like Kim Kardashian could be winning Oscars for best actress of she just had a bigger budget? Really??  Am I missing something here?

Yes you're missing the fact that I don't think being a thespian makes you remotely more special then anyone else. Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor, bravo for him, there are lots of good actors, hell many whom never even went to school for it at all. There are plenty of social media people who do perfectly fine work. Acting like all of them are bikini wearing chick's on Only Fans is about as genuine a position to hold as me acting like everyone in Hollywood is Millia Jovovich. 

 

And I don't doubt for a second that you can pay to win an Oscar. I bet Kim K could win herself an Oscar for the right price, but I don't have a very high opinion of the Oscar's either. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[DoctaMario]

23 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

Yes you're missing the fact that I don't think being a thespian makes you remotely more special then anyone else. Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor, bravo for him, there are lots of good actors, hell many whom never even went to school for it at all. There are plenty of social media people who do perfectly fine work. Acting like all of them are bikini wearing chick's on Only Fans is about as genuine a position to hold as me acting like everyone in Hollywood is Millia Jovovich. 

 

And I don't doubt for a second that you can pay to win an Oscar. I bet Kim K could win herself an Oscar for the right price, but I don't have a very high opinion of the Oscar's either. 

My point from the beginning has been that People who are famous for doing something/excelling at some kind of craft>>>people who are famous for being famous. You're the one saying they're the same except for the budget is a terrible take. 

 

Let's take it a step further, the guy dicking around with Unity on his laptop is no different then Miyazaki. I mean, it's not like Miyazaki has created anything anyone else couldn't create, right? He's not special, if Unity kid had a bigger budget, he too could create Dark Souls, amirite?

Edited February 27, 2023 by DoctaMario

[RSG3]

29 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

My point from the beginning has been that People who are famous for doing something/excelling at some kind of craft>>>people who are famous for being famous. You're the one saying they're the same except for the budget is a terrible take. 

And I'm hard disagreeing with you. First I don't think most internet celebs are famous for being famous, you're just trying to devalue an entire group of people because they don't make entertainment in a way you approve of. Second its the same, the talent gap (on a social level) doesn't matter to me because they're all just entertainers. They are in the same biz. Some are better at it then others, only difference. It's not a terrible take at all, it's you putting people on pedestals because they make some shit you like in a way you approve of. You're just valuing this media personality over the other one because of some stupid ass prestige value, because of the circle they are in while doing it. "He went to school!!" "He works for an actual studio!!"  So the fuck what, I can name a dozen just as good actors who never took a single class. Lots of actors who are amazing but only do stage work. Like i dont respect an actor because of the place he does business, i care about the work he puts out and that I agree has little to with budget, but almost everything g else does. Budget absolutely plays a part, budget is reach, budget is production quality, budget is almost everything or else Kevin Smith and Sam Raimi would still be making movies with Pringles Cans and Duck Tape. 

 

29 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Let's take it a step further, the guy dicking around with Unity on his laptop is no different then Miyazaki. I mean, it's not like Miyazaki has created anything anyone else couldn't create, right? He's not special, if Unity kid had a bigger budget, he too could create Dark Souls, amirite?

Yea, he probably could with a bigger budget and a staff like Miayazaki has he could absolutely make a high frame count animation about air planes or something. Like his creativity itself is special sure, but he's not better then you, or me, or anyone else just because he can draw pretty moving pictures. He's still a human being like you & I and he doesn't deserve special treatment for making nice cartoon movies. He doesn't get to cut in line, or have favoritism bestowed upon him over everyone else because he has the Japanese equivalent of The Disney studio. 

 

Considering the absolute sea of Souls knock offs in existence these days, yea, it seems Unity Kid can make one to with a bigger budget and a team like Miayazaki at Fromsoft has. Miayazki certainly didn't program Demons Souls all by himself in his bedroom. It's almost like he had a budget, and a team, and money to spend on making the product, and it seems as money for those projects grew the projects also grew in size & quality. Elden Rings their largest budget and team size project ever and it shows in the product. Budget isn't a garantee of success but it fucking helps a lot and the more of it you have the higher your chances of success are. It's foolish to deny it imo. 

 

I also believe you can buy almost any accolaid you want in Hollywood. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[Reticently]

I agree that celebrities don't deserve much* in the way of special treatment on principle, but I admit that I'd probably be more positively inclined toward someone whose work I personally thought really highly of than I would be toward a random internet thot.

 

*really just the extra privacy considerations they have because creepers can't leave people the fuck alone.

[Chadouken]

The difference between Daniel Day and some bikini thot on TikTok is that Daniel Day actually made several pieces of artistic works that will stand the test of time. His movies encapsulate a part of the human experience in a much more meaningful way than "Look at my titties". I don't see the two as the same thing at all.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Chadouken

[RSG3]

5 minutes ago, Reticently said:

I agree that celebrities don't deserve much* in the way of special treatment on principle, but I admit that I'd probably be more positively inclined toward someone whose work I personally thought really highly of than I would be toward a random internet thot.

Yea but what if the internet person made something you personally thought really highly of and wasn't an EThot because most people on the net creating things aren't EThots. Like I'm really surprised at how we seem to be acting like the only content people put on the internet is porn. 

 

Like you guys are aware that Only Fans is one small section of the creator sphere of the internet yea? 

 

Convo hasn't been very genuine from the beginning because it started on the false principle that every internet content creator is just showing ass for money. And has continued along that trajectory the entire time. Be the same as me acting like all Hollywood actors ate porn stars because their business is kinda sorta but not really the same. Can you have an actual conversation about Hollywood celebrity if I just spend the entire time pretending Judy Dench and Sasha Grey make the same product?

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[DoctaMario]

4 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

And I'm hard disagreeing with you. All of its the same, the talent gap doesn't matter to me because they're all just entertainers. They are in the same biz. Some are better at it then others, only difference. It's not a terrible take at all, it's you putting people on pedestals because they make some shit you like in a way you approve of. You're just valuing this media personality over the other one because of some stupid ass prestige value, because of the circle they are in while doing it. "He went to school!!" "He works for an actual studio!!"  So the fuck what, I can name a dozen just as good actors who never took a single class. Lots of actors who are amazing but only do stage work and budget absolutely plays a part, budget is reach, budget is production quality, budget is almost everything or else Kevin Smith and Sam Raimi would still be making movies with Pringles Cans and duck tape. Budget elevates your product so much. 

 

Yea, he probably could with a bigger budget and a staff like Miayazaki has. Considering the absolute sea of Souls knock offs in existence these days, yea, it seems Unity Kid can make one to with a bigger budget and a team like Miayazaki at Fromsoft has. Miayazki certainly didn't program Demons Souls all by himself in his bedroom. It's almost like he had a budget, and a team, and money to spend on making the product, and it seems as money for those projects grew the projects also grew in size & quality. Elden Rings their largest budget and team size project ever and it shows in the product. Budget isn't a garantee of success but it fucking helps a lot and the more of it you have the higher your chances of success are. It's foolish to deny it imo. 

 

I also believe you can buy almost any accolaid you want in Hollywood. 

Talent doesn't matter to you but talent is why some actors are visibly better than others, why some artists are objectively more skilled at what they do than others. Do you think every song in the world is equally good? Honestly man, I don't think you've thought a lot of this through. If money was all that mattered every Dark Souls clone would be as good or better than Dark Souls. But they aren't, because it takes talent and craft to make a game that great, not just money. Kevin Smith and Sam Raimi would still be making great things with duct tape and a Pringles can BECAUSE THEY HAVE TALENT and have WORKED ON THEIR CRAFT.

 

I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal I'm saying THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMOUS FOR BEING GOOD AT SOMETHING VS PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMOUS JUST BECAUSE THEY"RE FAMOUS.

[Reticently]

4 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

Yea but what if the internet person made something you personally thought really highly of and wasn't an EThot because most people on the net creating things aren't EThots. Like I'm really surprised at how we seem to be acting like the only content people put on the internet is porn. 

 

Like you guys are aware that Only Fans is one small section of the creator sphere of the internet yea? 

I thought the conversation started with an Instagram model getting entitled, so that was my point of reference.

 

I can't think of anyone in particular who is ONLY an internet content producer that I'd go out of my way for.  Weirdly though, there are minor celebs whose twitter, or whatever, I enjoy more than their body of work.

[Emptyeyes_]

Looking back on some of these being very alcohol dependent to bother with video games again, I think I'll progress much better going forward while sober. Fundamentals and more unconventionality should be alot stronger for me in recent times for thinking with better judgment/decision making, than back then. I do thank the FEXL community for having me to get back into the genre again.

 

 

[RSG3]

27 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

Talent doesn't matter to you but talent is why some actors are visibly better than others

Talent matters to me, but not when evaluating someone's worth as a person. Maybe I'm not doing a very good job of explaining myself. Talent matters to me yes, when it comes to doing creative work Talent matters. We are talking about impact on society tho, we aren't really talking about Talent. This started because someone with a spotlight on them wanted special treatment and you claims fthis behavior was the downfall of society. I pointed out Hollywood Thesipians have been behaving exactly like thay for decades and you've spent all this conversation. Trying to justify Hollywood doing the shit you just condemned an internet streamer for doing and said Hollywood celebs are bit more justified due to their fame being more earned. 

 

It's does not. Their talent does not mean anything beyond d they are good at the thing they do. Lots of people have Talent for many different things and many of those people are not uplifted by society for simply being good at something. Being a good actor/actress for Hollywood does not justify you getting any more special treatment then Maximillion on YouTube does. You're both in the same field, entertainment. 

 

This convo for me is one about society, because it started as a claim about a certain behavior ruining society. Someone's talent beyond the making of the film does not matter to me no, once you're outside the film, in the real world, you're another fucking person just like everyone else. You're not special just because you make fucking movies. You're in the same business as the Youtuber/Twitch streamer. You're just an entertainer. In the grand scheme of society, doctors, construction workers, teachers, social workers, policeman (good ones) and firefighters all contribute more and deserve more then any thespian does and yet we don't adequately reward them for the real life changing work they do. So no in the grand scheme of humanity and society, "talent" for the arts doesn't matter very much to me, I think it's highly over valued over far more beneficial memebers of our society. 

 

27 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

I don't think you've thought a lot of this throug

Well I think you've been reading past me this entire conversation because I'm talking about their bahaivor in society, their talent has little to do with what I'm actually talking about. Ezra Miller could be the second coming of Jesus for actors, I don't give a shit because his talent is irrelevant to his actual behavior. This started with you commenting thay some internet woman's behavior was an example of eroding society. I pointed out society has been doing that shit for almost at least 100 years with Hollywood actors and you've spent this entire convo trying to make it seem like it's justifiable for them to behave like that in normal society because they have talent. Hypocrisy my dude. Their talent does not matter when they are not making movies or music or whatever the fuck they do. You don't get to cut ahead of everyone else just because you play the piano real good or whatever the fuck. 

 

27 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

I'm not putting anyone on a pedestal I'm saying THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMOUS FOR BEING GOOD AT SOMETHING VS PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMOUS JUST BECAUSE THEY"RE FAMOUS.

No you said their behaivor was a bit more justified because they have talent. Im saying thats fucking bullshit that bahivor is no more justified just because they have talent. 

 

And yea Sam and Kevin would still be making niche, low budget, no reach product people only learn about through word of mouth because they would have no fucking advert budget. 

 

20 minutes ago, Reticently said:

I can't think of anyone in particular who is ONLY an internet content producer that I'd go out of my way for.  Weirdly though, there are minor celebs whose twitter, or whatever, I enjoy more than their body of work.

How are we defining "go out of your way"? Your original statement was "More positively inclined towards a person whose work you enjoyed." 

 

You wouldn't be positively inclined towards someone whose work you enjoyed because it was uploaded to the net instead of broadcast by a network or studio?

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[DoctaMario]

29 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

Talent matters to me, but not when evaluating someone's worth as a person.

In your last post, you said the talent gap didn't matter. I'm not reading past you, I'm reading exactly what you're saying as are other people here, and it's a wack take believing that talent doesn't matter and that all that's standing between the average person and greatness is a pile of money.

 

Nobody's "justifying" any kind of behavior. Hollywood people get hookups because people like what they do and want to give them those privileges; I doubt many of them have to really ask for much of anything. Add to that, there have been tons of stories shitting on legit celbrities for doing the same thing this girl did for decades. They don't get a pass on this brand of bad behavior either, especially not in an age of cellphone cameras and social media.

Edited February 27, 2023 by DoctaMario

[RSG3]

6 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

In your last post, you said the talent gap didn't matter.

In regards to their behaivor in society is what I was meaning, maybe I didn't get that scross very well? 

 

6 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

I'm reading exactly what you're saying as are other people here, and it's a wack take.

And you're the only one who seems to be having an issue with what I'm saying so...

 

6 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

I doubt many of them have to really ask for much of anything

I don't care what do or don't doubt, we have 100 years of stories of crazy riders, celebrity feeling entitled to special treatment over the people around them. We have proof of this behaivor in Hollywood celebrities going back decades.

 

I mean in the same vein I doubt the majority of social media influencers are like that girl, didn't stop you from lumping them all into the same boat of behaivor. In fact you're still doing it acting like that girl demanding a cut in line represents the social media sphere. 

 

6 minutes ago, DoctaMario said:

It's a hell of a lot different than cutting a long line and believing you should be able to "because I"m pretty and have 70k followers."

I remember that celebrity right after 9/11 demanding to go around the metal detectors because they where a famous celebrity and shouldn't have to stand in line and have their shit searched like everyone else at the airport had to. 

 

They do the same fucking shit as what you're whining about which is the actual point of this convo. They are the same people, you just respect the old guard more for arbitrary reasons. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[Sonichuman]

I can see both sides on this discussion but since I have an issue with over indulging celebrity worship, I'd lean more into RSG's side on it.  I had to ask myself if I had been in a line for anything be it food, ride, get into a club, something fairly important, etc and I've been in that line for some time and oh I don't know....let's say Beyonce or Taylor Swift were to show up and decided to bogard her way to the front of the line that I had been standing in for some time and the only reason she's doing this because "she's who she is" then I'm going to feel some way about it.  We're all standing in that line waiting for this and even if I respect the things that you've done (or in a worse case scenario...I don't give a shit about who you are/hate you) its not right or fair to me or the other people waiting in line.  There's some lee way on some things here and there like with rides where if you purchase like a pass or what not and you have that special line to go in then that's cool...but if it there ain't anything like that then whoever it is regardless of their stature I feel needs to sit in that line like everyone else.

[Darc_Requiem]

6 hours ago, MillionX said:

Oh yeah, Wishmaster is alright.... and a bit of horror trivia for ya--- this movie includes appearances by Robert Englund, Tony Todd and Kane Hodder!  So, we got the legendary Freddy, Candyman and Jason Voorhees actors all in one movie here.

 

The djinn is easily defeated though if you do a wish like "I wish were never released." Or "I wish you and all other djinn never existed." ---as long as the rule holds true that it is compelled to always grant the wish....but then that might create a paradox kind of situation...how could the wish have been granted if such a being never existed in the first place?  ...like if you invent a time machine, then go back in time and kill your past self before inventing the time machine.

Yeah that's the protag beats him in the first movie. The gem holding him was inside a statue. The crane operator was drunk, dropped the statue, breaking it to reveal the gem. She wished the crane operator wasn't drunk that day. So it basically undid everything The Wishmaster had done. Only she and well he remembered what went down. The first two Wishmasters were fine. The third one was....well no good. They were always B-Movies but the third was cheap by those standards. I knew it was going to be trash when the original actor didn't comeback. 

[J-ride]

5 minutes ago, Sonichuman said:

I can see both sides on this discussion but since I have an issue with over indulging celebrity worship, I'd lean more into RSG's side on it.  I had to ask myself if I had been in a line for anything be it food, ride, get into a club, something fairly important, etc and I've been in that line for some time and oh I don't know....let's say Beyonce or Taylor Swift were to show up and decided to bogard her way to the front of the line that I had been standing in for some time and the only reason she's doing this because "she's who she is" then I'm going to feel some way about it.  We're all standing in that line waiting for this and even if I respect the things that you've done (or in a worse case scenario...I don't give a shit about who you are/hate you) its not right or fair to me or the other people waiting in line.  There's some lee way on some things here and there like with rides where if you purchase like a pass or what not and you have that special line to go in then that's cool...but if it there ain't anything like that then whoever it is regardless of their stature I feel needs to sit in that line like everyone else.

I work at a top level hospital, and  we treat celebrities from time to time.  Some of them are really cool, but every now and then we have one that acts like they are a descendant of Catherine the Great and then demands ridiculous special treatment.  I personally think everyone should be treated the same and I don't believe in aristocracy, BUT I might be willing to accommodate someone if they aren't being an asshole for no reason.  If they are being a dick I'm saying no automatically out of spite.

[Reticently]

34 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

How are we defining "go out of your way"? Your original statement was "More positively inclined towards a person whose work you enjoyed."

It's all pretty abstract because I'm not in a position where me playing favorites would make a meaningful difference to anyone.  But I'd be way more okay with someone taking some slight advantage of my good graces if they've put stuff out into the world I've enjoyed, than I would be otherwise, no matter how famous they are.

 

45 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

You wouldn't be positively inclined towards someone whose work you enjoyed because it was uploaded to the net instead of broadcast by a network or studio?

I think you're coming at this from a different angle than I am- I don't care what medium anyone is "published" in.  The only way it is slightly relevant at all is that the internet lowers the barrier to getting famous in the first place for stuff like looking good in a bikini. 

 

[AriesWarlock]

 

[RSG3]

6 minutes ago, Reticently said:

I think you're coming at this from a different angle than I am- I don't care what medium anyone is "published" in.  The only way it is slightly relevant at all is that the internet lowers the barrier to getting famous in the first place for stuff like looking good in a bikini. 

This is my entire stance. People in Hollywood are no different from people at home making entertainment, the only difference imo, that I can really see between the two, is that Hollywood has budget (this is why I brought it up) and the "respectability" of their industry. Otherwise I'm not seeing much a difference between the two. They both, at the end of the day, set up cameras, make viewing content and then put it out. Like it's literally the same business. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[BB_Hoody]

6 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

This is my entire stance. People in Hollywood are no different from people at home making entertainment, the only difference imo, that I can really see between the two, is that Hollywood has budget (this is why I brought it up) and the "respectability" of their industry. Otherwise I'm not seeing much a difference between the two. They both, at the end of the day, set up cameras, make viewing content and then put it out. Like it's literally the same business. 

This fallout quote is appropriate 

"We're all just actors performing on a stage. The stage I perform on is just bigger"

[Reticently]

24 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

This is my entire stance. People in Hollywood are no different from people at home making entertainment, the only difference imo, that I can really see between the two, is that Hollywood has budget (this is why I brought it up) and the "respectability" of their industry. Otherwise I'm not seeing much a difference between the two. 

To me, it's not about where someone became famous, but how much goodwill I feel from personally appreciating their work.  I'd be less annoyed at Weird Al for cutting ahead of me in line than I would be about Taylor Swift doing the same thing, even if Taylor Swift is more famous and arguably works harder.  And when you move down that spectrum to people whose only claim to fame is that they have 70k Instagram followers from thirst-trapping, we're starting to get deep into negative goodwill.

Edited February 27, 2023 by Reticently

[Dayaan]

2 hours ago, Chadouken said:

The difference between Daniel Day and some bikini thot on TikTok is that Daniel Day actually made several pieces of artistic works that will stand the test of time. His movies encapsulate a part of the human experience in a much more meaningful way than "Look at my titties". I don't see the two as the same thing at all.

Terrible take. There were titties before Daniel Day and there will be titties after him. Now what do you think is more substantial??

[RSG3]

14 minutes ago, Reticently said:

To me, it's not about where someone became famous, but how much goodwill I feel from personally appreciating their work.  I'd be less annoyed at Weird Al for cutting ahead of me in line than I would be about Taylor Swift doing the same thing, even if Taylor Swift is more famous and arguably works harder.  And when you move down that spectrum to people whose only claim to fame is that they have 70k Instagram followers from thirst-trapping, we're starting to get deep into negative goodwill.

I would be annoyed at Weird Al doing that because he doesn't strike me as the type to do that but I get your actual point and I do agree. But I also imagine you would give Al the pass over Taylor if he uploaded his music to YouTube before the radio or whatever traditional medium is being used. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by RSG3

[Reticently]

9 minutes ago, RSG3 said:

I would be annoyed at Weird Al doing that because he doesn't strike me as the type to do that but I get your actual point and I do agree. But I also imagine you would give Al the pass over Taylor if he uploaded his music to YouTube before the radio or whatever traditional medium is being used. 

I've met him in passing, and I sincerely doubt he would cut in line in real life- just threw him in as an example because I knew I wouldn't have to explain him to anyone.

 

FWIW, he got started with parodies doing them bootleg- which was probably as close as you could get way back then to something like being Youtube famous.

[Lantis]

I just think celebrity privilege is just fucked overall. Why do they think making an award-winning movie entitles them to free shit at restaurants or skipping the line in events?

[Chadouken]

I'd let Weird Al cut in front of me just so I could talk to him because that guy is fucking hilarious.

[AriesWarlock]

Apparently, Scott Adams identifies as black

 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by AriesWarlock

[RSG3]

 

[DoctaMario]

3 hours ago, RSG3 said:

I remember that celebrity right after 9/11 demanding to go around the metal detectors because they where a famous celebrity and shouldn't have to stand in line and have their shit searched like everyone else at the airport had to. 

 

They do the same fucking shit as what you're whining about which is the actual point of this convo. They are the same people, you just respect the old guard more for arbitrary reasons. 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by DoctaMario

[DoctaMario]

First Roald Dahl, now James Bond:

 

https://deadline.com/2023/02/james-bond-books-rewritten-to-avoid-offense-to-modern-audiences-1235271892/

 

 

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James Bond has been censored, not stirred.

A report indicates that Ian Fleming’s ribald James Bond books have been rewritten to accommodate 21st century sensitivities, removing a number of racial references ahead of the 70th anniversary this spring, The Sunday Telegraph reported. The books are expected to be republished in April.

Fleming’s thrillers — from Casino Royale to Octopussy — will be rereleased this spring after Ian Fleming Publications, the company that owns the literary rights to Fleming’s work, commissioned a review by “sensitivity readers.”

The news comes amid increased scrutiny in the publishing industry. The Roald Dahl series, including the beloved Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,” recently were revealed to have undergone a similar review.

The re-published Bond novels will include a disclaimer: “This book was written at a time when terms and attitudes which might be considered offensive by modern readers were commonplace. A number of updates have been made in this edition, while keeping as close as possible to the original text and the period in which it is set.”

 

 

Edited February 27, 2023 by DoctaMario