Darc_Requiem Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jocelot said: I take it back, Chun sucks GG we lost You see what you did? You went and pissed Chun off and this poor girl had to pay for it. Bah Gawd king, she's on a rampage. Edited November 23, 2020 by Darc_Requiem Vhozite, ToreyBeans, Jocelot and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Dayaan Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 32 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: You see what you did? You went and pissed Chun off and this poor girl had to pay for it. Bah Gawd king, she's on a rampage. Poor girl on top at least survived the SA2. Link to comment
Jocelot Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Maybe if Chun showed the same ferocity here she wouldn't have lost to XSK Samurai today 👀 Link to comment
GreatDarkHero Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Vhozite said: Lol is there even a mixup there? just looked like 10 hit blockstring into tic throw lol. Did she throw Seth out of VT? Please excuse the late response. I think the Poison player found a hole in Seth's blockstrings at certain point. I wouldn't be surprised if it was labbed before hand. At some point, there was a distinctive opening that the Seth player didn't not actually count on. Or, it was too hard to counteract the throw attempt from the Poison player. It kind of reminds of how some Tekken players look for specific Hwoarang strings to duck and punish (and/or interrupt). Vhozite 1 Link to comment
Hawkingbird Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Sonero said: Twitch needs to put an option to skip ads Not even having twitch prime saves me from ads. It used to once upon a time. BornWinner and Dayaan 2 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 For those unaware, the Guilty Gear twitter account has been putting up some character animations from Strive. After playing so much of the goofy Faust, seeing him is Strive is very jarring. ShockDingo, Shakunetsu and Jocelot 2 1 Link to comment
Jocelot Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Can't say I've ever really cared about the story mode in a fighting game but I'm madddddd curious as to why Faust went all Silent Hill in Strive. I know OG Doctor Baldhead was a serial killer but I dunno, this even seems different than that. Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 The official site had this in Faust’s bio. So far it’s the only insight into his story. “He once suffered a mental breakdown due to a traumatic experience. Even now, he becomes unstable when something reminds him of that time.” In Xrd, he finally found out that Zato was sent to assassinate the girl he was operating which caused him to become a serial killer. I assume his state in Strive is the fallout of learning that information. But who say for sure? Link to comment
Sonero Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 If strive rollback is as good as the AC+R beta rollback... Bruh. BornWinner and Jocelot 2 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sonero said: If strive rollback is as good as the AC+R beta rollback... Bruh. It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive. that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code). Edited November 23, 2020 by Mattatsu Link to comment
BornWinner Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive. that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code). There was no mention of Mike Z but I did hear they have a guy that helped with the netcode on the new Killer Instinct. So here’s hoping. That being said, I had no problems with the beta and it’s online. Whenever the game decided I could connect to someone at least. Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
FlyingVe Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just to temper some expectations. KI does in fact have the best netcode of any fighting game, however, the focus on online play was built in to the very design of the game engine and how KI utilizes it. I doubt that level of commitment will be present in strive. it will doubtless still be a dramatic improvement over the usual Arksys solution though. Mattatsu, Hawkingbird, BornWinner and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment
GetTheTables Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Yeah my thought is that just like anything else, rollback implementation can be a sliding scale. KI is on the upper end of that scale, but as Ve said it was designed totally with that in mind. And the way that game works, if it had any kind of consistent delay/hiccups it would completely fall the fuck apart. Strive was very clearly pivoted to rollback during development (based on that delicious delay netcode beta) but that doesn't mean that it won't be a solid implementation. Just may not be quite as remarkable as some of the "built into the bones" exemplars. But if we're talking the difference here between A+ and A, for example, that's still great for the player base overall. FlyingVe 1 Link to comment
Mr.Cipher Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Mattatsu said: It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive. that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code). Thats not difficult. Indiegames made by one dude have better Netcode than SFV, you only need to read the manuel on how to make a Netcode. Smashing with a club on the Keyboard and calling it a Netcode isn't going to work. Link to comment
Shakunetsu Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 https://www.polygon.com/2020/11/23/21579064/street-fighter-alpha-an-oral-history/ Bigtochiro, Doctrine_Dark and Pair of Rooks 3 Link to comment
GetTheTables Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 That link wasn't nearly as sexy as I was expecting it to be. HeavensCloud, Mattatsu, Shakunetsu and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Soul Calibur now has some shirts out for eightysixed. https://www.eightysixed.com/collections/soul-calibur-vi Spoiler Copping that Yoshimitus one Edited November 23, 2020 by BornWinner Shakunetsu 1 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Darc_Requiem, Shakunetsu, Phantom_Miria and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, FlyingVe said: Just to temper some expectations. KI does in fact have the best netcode of any fighting game, however, the focus on online play was built in to the very design of the game engine and how KI utilizes it. I doubt that level of commitment will be present in strive. it will doubtless still be a dramatic improvement over the usual Arksys solution though. While i do agree that KI netcode is great, the fuck are you talking about, lol. The engine KI uses is the Slayer engine, ps2 era engine made for Buffy the Vampire Slayer game. Not only that, the online ficus aspect of the game was tacked on it mid developement, which in the long run helped the game tbh, but it wasnt something they designed neither the engine or the game in mind. Link to comment
Hecatom Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mattatsu said: It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive. that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code). The netcode is made by the same person who did the KI netcode, Zinac. Take that as you may want. Edited November 23, 2020 by Hecatom Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 @HecatomWho is the woman on the far right? I recognize Chun Li, Cammy, and Ivy. Link to comment
Hecatom Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: @HecatomWho is the woman on the far right? I recognize Chun Li, Cammy, and Ivy. Nyotengu, from DOA. Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Hecatom said: Nyotengu, from DOA. Where da fuck are her wings 🤣 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 🤣 Mr.Cipher, Bigtochiro, Pair of Rooks and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 @MattatsuI was lost until I read the replies. This dude actually thought a timestamp was inputs I'm weak 🤣 Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: @MattatsuI was lost until I read the replies. This dude actually thought a timestamp was inputs I'm weak 🤣 Lmao same. I thought it was the time, but then I saw that comment and had to scroll back up and double check Darc_Requiem and Mattatsu 2 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: @MattatsuI was lost until I read the replies. This dude actually thought a timestamp was inputs I'm weak 🤣 Yeah, I didn’t know how to show that the best because there were so many layers to the tweet, but I definitely wanted to show that 55 input reply. That had me dying Darc_Requiem 1 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) The Twitch Rivals UMVC3 tournament is live right now with Tasty Steve and Yipes commentating. https://m.twitch.tv/maximilian_dood Edited November 24, 2020 by Mattatsu BornWinner 1 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Lol, I miss hearing Yipes commentate. Darc_Requiem 1 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Darc_Requiem said: Where da fuck are her wings 🤣 There is a lot of fan art that depicts her without them. Link to comment
GreatDarkHero Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 If it were not for Nyotengu, I wouldn't have won two DOA tournaments back in Kaiserslautern, Germany 2014 before I moved back to the States. Spoiler That's mainly because about 60% of the people at these events didn't even know the match up and I didn't play previous DOA's before 5. They buffed Nyotengu by quite a bit since that point, now that she has at least a i10 frame move that stuns on regular hit and is a high. In DOA6, she can actually guarantee her ground through out of Hiten (her flying stance) and she was also give better follow ups from her 6P strings. Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hecatom said: There is a lot of fan art that depicts her without them. Gonna be honest fam, I don't like that. Nyotengu without her wings is like Chun Li with thin thighs and Cammy with pants. It's unnatural. Hawkingbird, GreatDarkHero, JustBooming and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment
Hecatom Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: Gonna be honest fam, I don't like that. Nyotengu without her wings is like Chun Li with thin thighs and Cammy with pants. It's unnatural. Is more common to have fan art of her without wings than with them. Then add that almost all the pornomancy does it as well, lol. Even Tecmo has her without wings on DoaX3 Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hecatom said: Is more common to have fan art of her without wings than with them. Then add that almost all the pornomancy does it as well, lol. Even Tecmo has her without wings on DoaX3 Hecatom, JustBooming, Mattatsu and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment
GreatDarkHero Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 30 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said: Gonna be honest fam, I don't like that. Nyotengu without her wings is like Chun Li with thin thighs and Cammy with pants. It's unnatural. Frankly, that's part of what makes the characters "special." Then you also have to remember the fact that her design was inspired from a previous boss character, whom was somewhat infamous. "EVERYTHING. IS MY. DELUSION." Link to comment
GreatDarkHero Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Meanwhile on SFV... Gouki: "..." Urien: "HAH!! LOOK! LOOK AT ME!! You ugly, worthless, shiftless, trifling Neanderthal troglodyte! Low-life pitiful scum! How dare you challenge me, knowing that you will die a miserable and painful death at my mighty hands? Come forth so that I may castrate you and flay your soul! I am your lord and your god and you will FEAR ME!! I AM URIEN!!" Gouki: "..." Urien: "Aha! Oh, the Master of the Fist?! Drivel! Pure, unintelligent drivel! Nonsense! Upon learning to fear me, I will torture you long before you die and miserable de- WHAT THE-?!?!?!?!?" Gouki: "Blabbering fool." *Parries Urien's attack and performs the dreaded Shun Goku Satsu* Urien: "...ACK?! WHAT IS THI- AAAAAARGH!!!!" Edited November 24, 2020 by GreatDarkHero Vhozite, Bigtochiro and Pair of Rooks 2 1 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Priest is reminding why MODOK was so sexy in MvC Link to comment
GreatDarkHero Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Volt and Phantom_Miria 2 Link to comment
Vhozite Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, GreatDarkHero said: Meanwhile on SFV... The clip is unbearably sexy. Jesus Christ how do keep playing the game after being absolutely disintegrated like that Urien is. Dude had him downloaded on 7G Triple OG Fiber Optics. First class ticket to the shadow realm. I’d legit turn off the game. Can’t think of a single SFV clip more satisfying than this. Also lol at Urien playing like he is fresh out Gold with raw mirror into wasted AA fb. Edited November 24, 2020 by Vhozite Volt, Dayaan and Bigtochiro 2 1 Link to comment
Doctrine_Dark Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Max's Marvel tournament was great. Enjoyed every minute of it. That Parsec was hella smooth and looked no different than online. Yipes and Tasty Steve were on point as usual. Really miss this stupid ass game. Mattatsu and BornWinner 2 Link to comment
Volt Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Vhozite said: The clip is unbearably sexy. Jesus Christ how do keep playing the game after being absolutely disintegrated like that Urien is. Dude had him downloaded on 7G Triple OG Fiber Optics. First class ticket to the shadow realm. I’d legit turn off the game. Can’t think of a single SFV clip more satisfying than this. Also lol at Urien playing like he is fresh out Gold with raw mirror into wasted AA fb. That Akuma read him like a children's book, I don't think that Urien was able to sleep that night. Link to comment
Popular Post Murphy0X Posted November 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2020 18 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said: Thats not difficult. Indiegames made by one dude have better Netcode than SFV, you only need to read the manuel on how to make a Netcode. I had to actually register this comment offended me so much. You have no idea what you're talking about here. As a game dev, and someone that has written some netcode (although not rollback) it is way easier to write a rollback netcode for a game with sprites and keyframes, then a game with 3D models, animations, particle effects, cloth simulations and all sorts of other things that can't have their states calculated in real time for a rollback. If you applied the same concepts skull girls used to street fighter v it would look so jank and broken. You cannot equate these things. Sonero, ShockDingo, Mattatsu and 7 others 8 2 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Man posted a L and the player thought “How can I top that?” Bigtochiro 1 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, Murphy0X said: I had to actually register this comment offended me so much. You have no idea what you're talking about here. As a game dev, and someone that has written some netcode (although not rollback) it is way easier to write a rollback netcode for a game with sprites and keyframes, then a game with 3D models, animations, particle effects, cloth simulations and all sorts of other things that can't have their states calculated in real time for a rollback. If you applied the same concepts skull girls used to street fighter v it would look so jank and broken. You cannot equate these things. Welcome to the forum, and don’t mind Cipher. He has a ridiculous amount of hatred for SFV, yet spends a portion of his day reading and posting on a SFV thread... You’ll get used to him over time (if you stick around), and learn to not take him so seriously, and sometimes find humour in his posts. Hopefully you do stick around, we often play lounges with each other and just have fun posting things related to SF, fighting games, and just general things. HeavensCloud, Pair of Rooks and Volt 3 Link to comment
Mattatsu Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 And lmao at Cipher at being such a troll that he’s getting us new members just to shit on him. 🤣 Who knew Cipher would be so good for the forums lol Volt, Darc_Requiem, Hawkingbird and 3 others 6 Link to comment
Sonero Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, Mattatsu said: And lmao at Cipher at being such a troll that he’s getting us new members just to shit on him. Murphy0x isn't new, he is one of the best lurkers in the SF5 lounge because he brings in random insight like that. @Murphy0X So what needs to happen with 2.5D animation to make it work better with rollback? Mattatsu and Volt 2 Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mattatsu said: And lmao at Cipher at being such a troll that he’s getting us new members just to shit on him. 🤣 Who knew Cipher would be so good for the forums lol Good to have you here @Murphy0X 👍🏾 Edited November 24, 2020 by Darc_Requiem Mattatsu 1 Link to comment
Sonero Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 https://twitter.com/mortalkombat/status/1331266326183112704?s=21 Darc_Requiem and Shakunetsu 1 1 Link to comment
BornWinner Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Finally, Sonya is playable. Darc_Requiem, Mattatsu and ShockDingo 1 2 Link to comment
Darc_Requiem Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sonero said: https://twitter.com/mortalkombat/status/1331266326183112704?s=21 Bruh, say what you will about Netherealm but damn they know how hit that nostalgia button. ShockDingo, Bigtochiro, Hawkingbird and 1 other 4 Link to comment
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