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GreatDarkHero Level 7

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2 hours ago, Vhozite said:

Lol is there even a mixup there? just looked like 10 hit blockstring into tic throw lol. Did she throw Seth out of VT? 

Please excuse the late response. 

 

I think the Poison player found a hole in Seth's blockstrings at certain point. I wouldn't be surprised if it was labbed before hand. At some point, there was a distinctive opening that the Seth player didn't not actually count on. Or, it was too hard to counteract the throw attempt from the Poison player. 

 

It kind of reminds of how some Tekken players look for specific Hwoarang strings to duck and punish (and/or interrupt). 

 

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BornWinner Level 17

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The official site had this in Faust’s bio. So far it’s the only insight into his story.

 

“He once suffered a mental breakdown due to a traumatic experience. Even now, he becomes unstable when something reminds him of that time.”

 

In Xrd, he finally found out that Zato was sent to assassinate the girl he was operating which caused him to become a serial killer. I assume his state in Strive is the fallout of learning that information. But who say for sure?

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Mattatsu Level 14

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11 minutes ago, Sonero said:

If strive rollback is as good as the AC+R beta rollback...

 

Bruh.

It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive.

 

that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code).

 

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BornWinner Level 17

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22 minutes ago, Mattatsu said:

It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive.

 

that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code).

 

There was no mention of Mike Z but I did hear they have a guy that helped with the netcode on the new Killer Instinct. So here’s hoping. 
 

That being said, I had no problems with the beta  and it’s online. Whenever the game decided I could connect to someone at least.

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FlyingVe Level 3

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Just to temper some expectations.

 

KI does in fact have the best netcode of any fighting game, however, the focus on online play was built in to the very design of the game engine and how KI utilizes it. I doubt that level of commitment will be present in strive.

 

it will doubtless still be a dramatic improvement over the usual Arksys solution though.

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GetTheTables Level 8

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Yeah my thought is that just like anything else, rollback implementation can be a sliding scale. 

 

KI is on the upper end of that scale, but as Ve said it was designed totally with that in mind. And the way that game works, if it had any kind of consistent delay/hiccups it would completely fall the fuck apart. 

 

Strive was very clearly pivoted to rollback during development (based on that delicious delay netcode beta) but that doesn't mean that it won't be a solid implementation. Just may not be quite as remarkable as some of the "built into the bones" exemplars. But if we're talking the difference here between A+ and A, for example, that's still great for the player base overall.

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Mr.Cipher Level 11

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1 hour ago, Mattatsu said:

It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive.

 

that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code).

 

 

Thats not difficult.

Indiegames made by one dude have better Netcode than SFV, you only need to read the manuel on how to make a Netcode.

 

Smashing with a club on the Keyboard and calling it a Netcode isn't going to work.

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Hecatom Level 18

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3 hours ago, FlyingVe said:

Just to temper some expectations.

 

KI does in fact have the best netcode of any fighting game, however, the focus on online play was built in to the very design of the game engine and how KI utilizes it. I doubt that level of commitment will be present in strive.

 

it will doubtless still be a dramatic improvement over the usual Arksys solution though.

While i do agree that KI netcode is great, the fuck are you talking about, lol. 

 

The engine KI uses is the Slayer engine, ps2 era engine made for Buffy the Vampire Slayer game. 

 

Not only that, the online ficus aspect of the game was tacked on it mid developement, which in the long run helped the game tbh, but it wasnt something they designed neither the engine or the game in mind. 

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Hecatom Level 18

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4 hours ago, Mattatsu said:

It likely wont be, unless MikeZ worked on Strive.

 

that said, GG Rev 2’s delay based netcode is miles above SFV’s rollback, so i assume their rollback would be decent too (and honestly, maybe MikeZ consulted with them for strive, directly or indirectly, before they canned him, or they just study the AC+R code).

 

The netcode is made by the same person who did the KI netcode, Zinac. 

 

Take that as you may want. 

 

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GreatDarkHero Level 7

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If it were not for Nyotengu, I wouldn't have won two DOA tournaments back in Kaiserslautern, Germany 2014 before I moved back to the States. 

 

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That's mainly because about 60% of the people at these events didn't even know the match up and I didn't play previous DOA's before 5. 

 

They buffed Nyotengu by quite a bit since that point, now that she has at least a i10 frame move that stuns on regular hit and is a high. 

In DOA6, she can actually guarantee her ground through out of Hiten (her flying stance) and she was also give better follow ups from her 6P strings. 

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Hecatom Level 18

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15 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Gonna be honest fam, I don't like that. Nyotengu without her wings is like Chun Li with thin thighs and Cammy with pants. It's unnatural.

Is more common to have fan art of her without wings than with them. 

 

Then add that almost all the pornomancy does it as well, lol. 

 

Even Tecmo has her without wings on DoaX3

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GreatDarkHero Level 7

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30 minutes ago, Darc_Requiem said:

Gonna be honest fam, I don't like that. Nyotengu without her wings is like Chun Li with thin thighs and Cammy with pants. It's unnatural.

Frankly, that's part of what makes the characters "special." 

 

Then you also have to remember the fact that her design was inspired from a previous boss character, whom was somewhat infamous. 

 

"EVERYTHING. IS MY. DELUSION." 

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GreatDarkHero Level 7

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Meanwhile on SFV...

 

 

Gouki: "..." 

Urien: "HAH!! LOOK! LOOK AT ME!! You ugly, worthless, shiftless, trifling  Neanderthal troglodyte! Low-life pitiful scum! How dare you challenge me, knowing that you will die a miserable and painful death at my mighty hands? Come forth so that I may castrate you and flay your soul! I am your lord and your god and you will FEAR ME!! I AM URIEN!!" 

 

Gouki: "..." 

 

Urien: "Aha! Oh, the Master of the Fist?! Drivel! Pure, unintelligent drivel! Nonsense! Upon learning to fear me, I will torture you long before you die and miserable de- WHAT THE-?!?!?!?!?" 

 

Gouki: "Blabbering fool." *Parries Urien's attack and performs the dreaded Shun Goku Satsu* 

 

Urien: "...ACK?! WHAT IS THI-  AAAAAARGH!!!!" 

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Vhozite Level 15

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1 hour ago, GreatDarkHero said:

Meanwhile on SFV...

 

 

The clip is unbearably sexy. Jesus Christ how do keep playing the game after being absolutely disintegrated like that Urien is. Dude had him downloaded on 7G Triple OG Fiber Optics. First class ticket to the shadow realm. I’d legit turn off the game. 
 

Can’t think of a single SFV clip more satisfying than this. 
 

Also lol at Urien playing like he is fresh out Gold with raw mirror into wasted AA fb.

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Volt Level 15

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9 hours ago, Vhozite said:

The clip is unbearably sexy. Jesus Christ how do keep playing the game after being absolutely disintegrated like that Urien is. Dude had him downloaded on 7G Triple OG Fiber Optics. First class ticket to the shadow realm. I’d legit turn off the game. 
 

Can’t think of a single SFV clip more satisfying than this. 
 

Also lol at Urien playing like he is fresh out Gold with raw mirror into wasted AA fb.

That Akuma read him like a children's book, I don't think that Urien was able to sleep that night.

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18 hours ago, Mr.Cipher said:

Thats not difficult.

Indiegames made by one dude have better Netcode than SFV, you only need to read the manuel on how to make a Netcode.

I had to actually register this comment offended me so much.   You have no idea what you're talking about here.  As a game dev, and someone that has written some netcode (although not rollback) it is way easier to write a rollback netcode for a game with sprites and keyframes, then a game with 3D models, animations, particle effects, cloth simulations and all sorts of other things that can't have their states calculated in real time for a rollback.   If you applied the same concepts skull girls used to street fighter v it would look so jank and broken.  You cannot equate these things.

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Mattatsu Level 14

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20 minutes ago, Murphy0X said:

I had to actually register this comment offended me so much.   You have no idea what you're talking about here.  As a game dev, and someone that has written some netcode (although not rollback) it is way easier to write a rollback netcode for a game with sprites and keyframes, then a game with 3D models, animations, particle effects, cloth simulations and all sorts of other things that can't have their states calculated in real time for a rollback.   If you applied the same concepts skull girls used to street fighter v it would look so jank and broken.  You cannot equate these things.

Welcome to the forum, and don’t mind Cipher. He has a ridiculous amount of hatred for SFV, yet spends a portion of his day reading and posting on a SFV thread... You’ll get used to him over time (if you stick around), and learn to not take him so seriously, and sometimes find humour in his posts.

 

Hopefully you do stick around, we often play lounges with each other and just have fun posting things related to SF, fighting games, and just general things.

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